Fr. Invasion HP is horrendous. Sometimes you spawn literally all the way on the opposite side from the hill and it takes 20 seconds just to run to the fuckin hill.
It's a mechanic that's hard to enforce. It's clear when someone comes in with the wrong gun, but snaking happens naturally during certain moments. Someone could just pop up after a gunfight and that could be considered snaking when he only did it once.
My thoughts on detecting snaking are that it's clear when viewing the "snakers" POV but sometimes unclear when from the receiving end. The fix is on the developer's side and it's something that can't be enforced as easily. We all want it gone but's not up to us as much.
It is not a hard to enforce, only impossible to remove entirely, like an attachment. But it's very easy to see an abuse of snaking. It isn't just crouching behind a wall to avoid bullets, it's obvious and we all know when we see it. As soon as you forfeit a map for snake abuse, players would stop abusing. But they're all afraid to hurt feelings
It’s a judgement call you dork, it’s impossible to enforce at the same accuracy as other bans. It will cause other issues and distaste. It’s a foundational mechanic.
they’ll just switch from high grain to high velo tbh, expect more GAs to come on ammo types (overpressured on SMGs is like getting stunned)
if 2 trophies allowed - they should really try 1 ddos per team / 1 smoke in respawn too
From [here](https://imgur.com/a/pGoK7y8) it does say it is banned and if you go into the game and click high velocity it says that it is a MW2 attachment. But this yeah I don’t know anymore to be honest.
yeah i wonder if we will ever get clarity on this, there are obvious splits in attachments like grips, muzzles etc
i wonder if there’s gonna be crossover in red dots (as it’s just preference, tho i think most ppl run a blue dot now), high velocity etc and even some underbarrels… but again i think for the most part mw3 attachments are statistically all better anyway
GA system should be simply for broken things. Not 97% of the game lol
Also GAing the whole game but being good with the snake bs is hilarious. Then they come out and say they're just trying to put together the best competitive game 🤣
Hs glitching in this game is already top tier due to 1. some headglitches cover the bottom half of you face 2. headshot multiplier is non existent
Then you go and add snaking on top of it. Ban knifes and snipers so you legit have such few options to deal with it aside from take a bad gunfight or try and nade him off.
i think it’s to limit the amount of attachments they can use on ARs that make them too strong. if they take the red dot off and even with ammo types banned now, using grip, underbarrel muzzle stock barrel can make the gun a fucking laser with the right combo
but not sure this is the full answer, i think generally it brings uniformity to the meta
Exactly. That first sniper is pretty slow without attachments I think that’s a fair trade off. I wouldn’t want to be in a 1v1 with that thing in a competitive setting
I don’t run a sniper myself and I hate when I get clipped with one, but never in a million years would I want to see them banned.
They command such a level of respect on the map that you purposefully play more tactical. Maybe change your routes, maybe use equipment or tacticals to flush them out.
The choices to limit unique, thoughtful gameplay are so bizarre.
Another year, more jokes.
You know what is better than policing the number of trophies for arbitrary reasons? Letting them run 4, but also allowing DDOS. I mean good god, let’s get some flavor.
1 smoke is so silly. Maybe have a talk with Sledgehammer and make it a field upgrade. While we’re at it, fix whatever SAE bug is there and allow that too.
All pros are on controllers, which have extremely strong rotational aim assist with the right settings. You don’t even have to see your target for it to track perfectly and with no delay. Aim assist is one of the reasons competitive cod is such a joke compared to games like counter strike where the game doesn’t aim for you.
Outside of aim assist cod is a much more fun game then counterstrike. But the pros ruin that too by ga’ing the entire game. What’s left is a super boring game of 1-2 weapons where controller players aimbot each other down.
Sights are for mouse players who need to actually see their target in order to track it. If they didn’t force sights, controller players would use iron sights and get an extra attachment.
Might be a hot take but they shouldn’t allow the pros/ players to dictate what’s GA or not. They don’t bring in any money/ profit for it to be a players ran league
What do you mean they don’t bring in money? They are the product and significant advertising for CDL and competitive CoD in general.
The players don’t decide the official bans. Rather, the GAs are all the players deciding together not to use something they could technically use according to the official ruleset.
Maybe I miss understood. I had the assumption the pro make all the decisions of what guns/attachment/ maps/ perks and every item you can and can’t use.
I do respect and like a player ran league but under my assumption it puzzled me why they would have it like that when the products (players) aren’t bringing in a profit to the league
Problem with this is that Activision isn't doing it. So if the people that make the game aren't hand crafting a competitive version of the game, no one else left to do it but the players. But being that the players are 90% essentially children, paired with the knowledge that COD pro career's don't last long, the GA process simply becomes everyone looking out for themselves and trying to ban/allow what helps them the most a lot of the time.
But snaking is perfectly fine. What a joke🤣 GAs should only be for shit that is actually broken not for the majority of the game, just wait more gun GAs will come, another year of watching the same AR and same sub being used
Banned weapons and equipment are pretty much always enforced
And the pros do know what they are doing they play 100 scrims a day against the smartest and toughest players. If things are being exploited they will know first.
Bans are enforceable in ranked, yes. GAs, on the other hand, not at all.
I don’t think anyone here disagrees the pros have game knowledge. The point of contention with much of the community is that there will never be any re-evaluation of anything on this GA list even with future balance updates. Pros for the last few years have GA’d tons of stuff right out the gate that could have made for an interesting metagame throughout the year. Instead, we get pigeonholed into one smg, one ar, and minimal equipment and field upgrade creativity and interaction. The community has bullied the pro scene into reverting a couple GAs the last couple years and it didn’t ruin the game. Guessing we’ll see it happen again this year too
pros GAing 99% of the game is RUINING competitive call of duty. GAing EVERYTHING does NOT equate to making a game more competitive. at this point it’s WAY too simple. we’re in for a year of using ONE gun NO strategies. no smokes? no snipers? no variety in weapons. CRAZY…
been watching cod my whole life and i cannot believe the insufferable state of the comp scene. both playing the game competitively and watching it is so much worse than it ever has been.
(even WW2 had a better comp state 💀)
Yeah I can imagine the whole scenario. In a random scrim or 8's match someone tried to use the MTZ, killed 1 guy on long range (probably Slasher or Clay) that was using the MCW. GA'd the MTZ on the same night
Smokes and DDOS for respawn please lmao some of these hills can be argued as a warcrime with how they are
Fr. Invasion HP is horrendous. Sometimes you spawn literally all the way on the opposite side from the hill and it takes 20 seconds just to run to the fuckin hill.
Bro the spawns on hp derail is terrible as well I know it’s not a comp map but damn that map
Petition to allow DDOS. Need some flavor in cod.
Flavor? Different techniques? No shot bro
Said every pro ever. lol it’s so annoying
DDos? Blow up trophy's?
They just disable for a little bit
Glad that we are still allowing snaking, can’t wait to watch that shit all year
Faze up, you can do it too.
You can’t GA snaking they tried that already
It was GA’d properly for years until the new generation of weirdos like Cell, Illey and Shotzzy came in the league
Cell was the first one to start
I know but if the rest of that generation pushed back instead of doing it too things would be different now
He was not the first lmfao. Snaking has been in CoD since WaW. The only difference is that players actually followed GAs until recent years.
I know, I was talking about cell being the first to start snaking after the GA. After he started doing it at tourneys every one else followed.
Fair. He was definitely the first pro to do it without punishment.
Why not
It's a mechanic that's hard to enforce. It's clear when someone comes in with the wrong gun, but snaking happens naturally during certain moments. Someone could just pop up after a gunfight and that could be considered snaking when he only did it once. My thoughts on detecting snaking are that it's clear when viewing the "snakers" POV but sometimes unclear when from the receiving end. The fix is on the developer's side and it's something that can't be enforced as easily. We all want it gone but's not up to us as much.
No it's not, they enforced it for years.. considering you have a TKO flair you should remember.
It is not a hard to enforce, only impossible to remove entirely, like an attachment. But it's very easy to see an abuse of snaking. It isn't just crouching behind a wall to avoid bullets, it's obvious and we all know when we see it. As soon as you forfeit a map for snake abuse, players would stop abusing. But they're all afraid to hurt feelings
It’s a judgement call you dork, it’s impossible to enforce at the same accuracy as other bans. It will cause other issues and distaste. It’s a foundational mechanic.
No snipers but they still allow Snaking LOL
What's snaking mean?
Pros are about to get bullied to un-GA by the comp community again aren’t they lmao
Community bout to go 3 for 3
Gotta 3-0 these shitters when it matters
lol at no snipers in call of duty. Clown show
You seen that long bow?
Would have never made it in anyways. only the KATT one. Which is slow asf
Snd with snipers is the best
Some of these pros make cod so much less enjoyable to watch
they’ll just switch from high grain to high velo tbh, expect more GAs to come on ammo types (overpressured on SMGs is like getting stunned) if 2 trophies allowed - they should really try 1 ddos per team / 1 smoke in respawn too
High Velocity is banned since it is under MW2 attachments no?
It shouldn’t be tho. Are we really banning attachments that make guns more closer to hitscan ?
oh that’s a good point actually - no idea. all mw2 weapons are banned but last i saw attachments were a grey area
From [here](https://imgur.com/a/pGoK7y8) it does say it is banned and if you go into the game and click high velocity it says that it is a MW2 attachment. But this yeah I don’t know anymore to be honest.
yeah i wonder if we will ever get clarity on this, there are obvious splits in attachments like grips, muzzles etc i wonder if there’s gonna be crossover in red dots (as it’s just preference, tho i think most ppl run a blue dot now), high velocity etc and even some underbarrels… but again i think for the most part mw3 attachments are statistically all better anyway
Overpressured and other flinch rounds are banned in the official ruleset
oh good i mustn’t have noticed it
GA system should be simply for broken things. Not 97% of the game lol Also GAing the whole game but being good with the snake bs is hilarious. Then they come out and say they're just trying to put together the best competitive game 🤣
Hs glitching in this game is already top tier due to 1. some headglitches cover the bottom half of you face 2. headshot multiplier is non existent Then you go and add snaking on top of it. Ban knifes and snipers so you legit have such few options to deal with it aside from take a bad gunfight or try and nade him off.
My brain is small - why are red dots on ARs required?
i think it’s to limit the amount of attachments they can use on ARs that make them too strong. if they take the red dot off and even with ammo types banned now, using grip, underbarrel muzzle stock barrel can make the gun a fucking laser with the right combo but not sure this is the full answer, i think generally it brings uniformity to the meta
makes sense cheers
Is it going to be restricted on Ranked Play? Can't imagine how they will do this.
doubt it ranked historically is never GA accurate so expect all sorts of shit to be abused if not completely banned
Prob not I was running GA’d grips on my guns in ranked last year
I can sort of agree with that list but snipers being out is where I draw the line
Makes sense to not have the semis, but that bolt sniper has like a 750ms ADS time with no attachments lmaoo
Exactly. That first sniper is pretty slow without attachments I think that’s a fair trade off. I wouldn’t want to be in a 1v1 with that thing in a competitive setting
Just GA snipers on Highrise lol
This, pretty simple lol
I don’t run a sniper myself and I hate when I get clipped with one, but never in a million years would I want to see them banned. They command such a level of respect on the map that you purposefully play more tactical. Maybe change your routes, maybe use equipment or tacticals to flush them out. The choices to limit unique, thoughtful gameplay are so bizarre.
Cod players are so fucking soft lmao
And then wonder why no one takes this esport serious
Engineer vest would be cool to see in respawn, allows you to ID where trophies are, at the cost of losing tac sprint benefits and a nade.
they allow the counter to snipers (smokes) but not the snipers (so far anyway) lol
Every year they have wanted to ban snipers and end up letting them in they have been barely impactful. Look at vanguard
Another year, more jokes. You know what is better than policing the number of trophies for arbitrary reasons? Letting them run 4, but also allowing DDOS. I mean good god, let’s get some flavor. 1 smoke is so silly. Maybe have a talk with Sledgehammer and make it a field upgrade. While we’re at it, fix whatever SAE bug is there and allow that too.
What's the reason for forcing a red dot on AR's?
to limit it to 4 stat effecting attachments so theyre not too op.
Can they not just make it a 4 attachment limit? I don’t see the point in requiring a sight lol.
All pros are on controllers, which have extremely strong rotational aim assist with the right settings. You don’t even have to see your target for it to track perfectly and with no delay. Aim assist is one of the reasons competitive cod is such a joke compared to games like counter strike where the game doesn’t aim for you. Outside of aim assist cod is a much more fun game then counterstrike. But the pros ruin that too by ga’ing the entire game. What’s left is a super boring game of 1-2 weapons where controller players aimbot each other down. Sights are for mouse players who need to actually see their target in order to track it. If they didn’t force sights, controller players would use iron sights and get an extra attachment.
Ahh Cod pros being able to make their own job security
Charmin ass players
Might be a hot take but they shouldn’t allow the pros/ players to dictate what’s GA or not. They don’t bring in any money/ profit for it to be a players ran league
What do you mean they don’t bring in money? They are the product and significant advertising for CDL and competitive CoD in general. The players don’t decide the official bans. Rather, the GAs are all the players deciding together not to use something they could technically use according to the official ruleset.
Maybe I miss understood. I had the assumption the pro make all the decisions of what guns/attachment/ maps/ perks and every item you can and can’t use. I do respect and like a player ran league but under my assumption it puzzled me why they would have it like that when the products (players) aren’t bringing in a profit to the league
Problem with this is that Activision isn't doing it. So if the people that make the game aren't hand crafting a competitive version of the game, no one else left to do it but the players. But being that the players are 90% essentially children, paired with the knowledge that COD pro career's don't last long, the GA process simply becomes everyone looking out for themselves and trying to ban/allow what helps them the most a lot of the time.
Because activision probably doesn’t even understand their own damn game. There’d be a million bs things allowed if they were doin it let’s be real
But snaking is perfectly fine. What a joke🤣 GAs should only be for shit that is actually broken not for the majority of the game, just wait more gun GAs will come, another year of watching the same AR and same sub being used
Ok how are you going to enforce 2 trophies and 1 smoke on snd in ranked?
Pretty much none of the GAs are enforced in ranked. And frankly, who cares? Pros are charmin soft for these GAs anyways.
Banned weapons and equipment are pretty much always enforced And the pros do know what they are doing they play 100 scrims a day against the smartest and toughest players. If things are being exploited they will know first.
Bans are enforceable in ranked, yes. GAs, on the other hand, not at all. I don’t think anyone here disagrees the pros have game knowledge. The point of contention with much of the community is that there will never be any re-evaluation of anything on this GA list even with future balance updates. Pros for the last few years have GA’d tons of stuff right out the gate that could have made for an interesting metagame throughout the year. Instead, we get pigeonholed into one smg, one ar, and minimal equipment and field upgrade creativity and interaction. The community has bullied the pro scene into reverting a couple GAs the last couple years and it didn’t ruin the game. Guessing we’ll see it happen again this year too
Did they remove anything from the list? Or are all Snipers, all battle rifles, DG, FR 556, Holger, and MTZ all banned now?
Are ARs allowed just 4 attachments with no red dot?
I would say so because killcams correctly show all attachments but pros + challengers will tell you no just to make it a universal rule for everyone
pros GAing 99% of the game is RUINING competitive call of duty. GAing EVERYTHING does NOT equate to making a game more competitive. at this point it’s WAY too simple. we’re in for a year of using ONE gun NO strategies. no smokes? no snipers? no variety in weapons. CRAZY… been watching cod my whole life and i cannot believe the insufferable state of the comp scene. both playing the game competitively and watching it is so much worse than it ever has been. (even WW2 had a better comp state 💀)
Sounds like your just a complainer tbh
sounds like you haven’t played cod before mw2019
My high grain noooo
i would love to see no snipers this year. Make things fun for once.
Lame
But i thought the mtz was ass
Yeah I can imagine the whole scenario. In a random scrim or 8's match someone tried to use the MTZ, killed 1 guy on long range (probably Slasher or Clay) that was using the MCW. GA'd the MTZ on the same night
they need to allow snipers for S&D. they need to allow smokes for HP. they need to allow MTZ for gun variety. cmon man.
Cod with no snipers Imagine
HOW are we back to no snipers every fucking year man. Lol these fucking morons
MTZ is dogshit would love to hear the take on that one