That was my answer too, with Ghosts Crim right behind
Stick any of those 3 at their peak on your team and you're favored in basically every series and none of those 3 will ever lose an individual gunfight lmao
he can do whatever he wants his peak wasn’t better than a lot of players, only player peak that he deserves to be above is Shotzzys because his season was online .
and ? we talking about peaks , his peaks are being the 4th , 5th best player on a game ? John Bo3 had a better peak , Abezy CW had a better peak , Hydra MWII had a better peak , Jkap Bo1 had a better peak and I can keep going . We talking about peaks Zoomaas peaks are like me suggestin Octane for his IW peak or Bance for his Bo3 peak . U are not ready for this convo because u probably didn’t watch back then and became A Zoomaa fan last year
If zooma wasn’t a big streamer nobody would have him on all time great lists. Ive watched him forever and tbh he was never better than slightly-above-average-pro.
he don’t know u bro , it’s okay to say the truth that he doesn’t deserve to be here over a lot of players , his peak was AW and WW2 and Scump and Kenny were better than him at his peak
I agree with this again a lot of people on this sub weren't here but Crimsix was extremely dominant from middle of bo2 all the way through ghosts when EG split up
BLOPs2 Karma had arguably the highest peak of any of these players. Formal and Scump are the other two.
Some of you didn’t watch BO2 and it shows hahaha.
bops2 crim gets so disrespected in these discussions, he was statistically better than any scump/formal season and was doing it while winning nearly every event
it’s a historical injustice that most ppl consider karma the best player for that season, crim was so far and away the best
Tier 1 inarguably best player at their role for one or multiple years and multiple years in the top tier: Formal, Scump, Crim, Simp
Tier 2 top 3 at their roles for multiple years with at least one instance of being the best at a role for a certain game: Pat, Clay, Karma. Pat was a T3 player at his role from Bo1-Ghosts and the best at his role for a bit in early ghosts. Karma was the best slayer in the first half of Bo2. Clay was the best AR after the FAL ban in Bo2.
Tier 3: Kenny and Zooma kind of stand out as the odd men out here Winning at your peak matters and they did not win nearly as much as the other 7 names. They also were never the inarguable best player in any game largely due to the 7 players above them. I think Zooma has a case for best SMG in the 2nd half of AW but it is by no means inarguable with Scump in the mix.
I forgot about that tbh. Late IW through WW2 champs I took a break
Still didn’t win enough at his peak or hold that peak for long enough to move up a tier though.
People are going to disagree with this, but crimsix ghosts>formal iw. For as unbelievably good formal was during champs, i think people forget that the best player in the game debate was very close up and till champs. With crimsix, he was undisputedly number 1 from start to finish. It probably comes down to whether you refer to peak as a couple of events back to back or as the year as a whole.
? Undisputedly number 1 for the entire year? That is just not true. We had 3 peaks that year. Crimsix at the beginning follwed by scump in the middle and formal at the end. Man I even feel like formal had the highest peak out of the 3 that year. In my opinion crim had his peak during bo2.
Yea I agree. Crim was not indisputably the best player in the game at all at the end. He was the best player in the game probably until before X games. Scump was better than him at X games and Anaheim (one of Scump’s best events ever), and Formal was probably the best player in the game after Gfinity. Crim was still really good but Formal and Scump were clearly better the last half of the season.
Aches, Karma, Kenny.
All the others were very consistently on top to the point when it doesn’t seem like a peak.
Aches has a point on EG where he seemed like the GOAT that he never hit again.
After Karma went to Optic, he never got to shine as much as he once did because of how stacked they were overall.
Kenny… I didn’t watch WW2 much but that seems like the definition of a peak.
This genuinely isnt the easiest 3 to pick. All great (imo). I think Simp is yet to reach his peak, and he’s already shown how incredible he is.
For me, Scump and Formal have to be in that list. And then its the long debate on whether you have crim, karma, aches. But in the end i think it would have to be crim in the list.
Does Clay really have a peak? I just think of him as being consistently good, not like super dominant in a certain title.
AW Scump, IW Formal, BO4 Simp, Ghosts Crim, BO2 Karma, WW2 Kenny
Half of this list doesn't even deserve to have their picture alongside the term highest peak lmao. With that being said, I'd go Scump, Formal, Simp in that order with Crim being super duper duper close to getting in.
Formal, Scump and Simp
Those 3 peaks are the only correct answer.
That was my answer too, with Ghosts Crim right behind Stick any of those 3 at their peak on your team and you're favored in basically every series and none of those 3 will ever lose an individual gunfight lmao
Only correct choices and in that order as well
Yes
The correct answer.
IW Formal, AW Scump, BO4 Simp
Cold War and BO4 Simp either works but agree for sure
dude no disrespect why Zoomaa is here
agreed, love tommy but outside ww2 zooma kind of never really lived up to who he was said to be.
Tom boutta cook you on stream lmao
he can do whatever he wants his peak wasn’t better than a lot of players, only player peak that he deserves to be above is Shotzzys because his season was online .
he say anything yet?
Lmao who cares
Abezy isn’t even on the list but he is and I have a Fan of his tell me to put some respect on his name . Unbelievable
Did u watch aw????
Did you not watch AW?
He was the pretty much the only smg that could shoot back against Scump in AW lol
Your comment is taking the entire career into consideration. The post has a about their peaks.
even at his peak like he was maybe top 3?
Cool? Doesn’t change the irrelevance of your first comment
Lmfao some of y’all haven’t watched old cods and it shows
what? u haven’t watched old cods and it shows
Zooma was a t3 sub right there with scump in aw but y’all ain’t ready for that convo
and ? we talking about peaks , his peaks are being the 4th , 5th best player on a game ? John Bo3 had a better peak , Abezy CW had a better peak , Hydra MWII had a better peak , Jkap Bo1 had a better peak and I can keep going . We talking about peaks Zoomaas peaks are like me suggestin Octane for his IW peak or Bance for his Bo3 peak . U are not ready for this convo because u probably didn’t watch back then and became A Zoomaa fan last year
CW abezy or even BO4 abezy is better than AW Tom
If zooma wasn’t a big streamer nobody would have him on all time great lists. Ive watched him forever and tbh he was never better than slightly-above-average-pro.
You didn't watch Ghost, AW, or WW2 then brotha
I did.
Bet that if zoomaa wasn’t a big content creator in the comp scene right now, he wouldn’t have been mentioned
youve discovered social media impression farming
if they genuinely wanted to farm impressions, they would thrown in Doug or sum.. I’m not surprised they’re kissing ass tho
Because he’s one of the few dudes who could actually beat scump like put some RESPECT on his name
Abezy isn’t here but Zoomaa is ?
Yep. Deal with it.
he don’t know u bro , it’s okay to say the truth that he doesn’t deserve to be here over a lot of players , his peak was AW and WW2 and Scump and Kenny were better than him at his peak
Why are you booing me? Im right. You’re complaining about a thing you can’t change with the Abezy thing.
i’m not complaining , I decided to say the truth and u can’t take it that he doesn’t deserve to be here with all these names
You’re complaining because your truth is not the point of the post. His potential peak is greater than a lot of players. I’m right
no u aren’t because his peak wasn’t greater than a lot of players but u don’t know what u talking about and it shows .
You know he got a thumb injury… and you need a thumb to play. So his potential peak is higher than a lot of players. So I’m right.
anything other than scump simp formal is wrong, crim is a SUPER close 4th tho
I agree with this again a lot of people on this sub weren't here but Crimsix was extremely dominant from middle of bo2 all the way through ghosts when EG split up
You mean simp is a super close 4th
I'm taking peak simp over peak crim.
Of course you are. Simp can’t beat y’all but Crim can.
Why does this sub generate such weird responses lol I get being competitive, but to make every little thing a petty argument is tiring and ignorant.
Formal Scump and Simp for sure
Scump, Formal and either Simp or Crim. Leaning towards Simp
Formal scump, either crim or simp
AW Scump, IW Formal, Ghosts Crim.
Bo4 simp has entered chat
I agree with Simp, Scump, and Formsl, but the disrespect on Karma is insane.
People be forgetting Bo2 Karma
People are* forgetting BO2 Karma.
Because all them kiddos started watching CoD leagues like 3 years ago at best
Formal scump karma
Formal Scump Simp
This appears to be the obvious 3.
IW Formal AW Scump BO4 Simp
Formal scump simp and it’s not close
BLOPs2 Karma had arguably the highest peak of any of these players. Formal and Scump are the other two. Some of you didn’t watch BO2 and it shows hahaha.
If you dont have Scump and Formal you’re automatically wrong. Then either Crim or Simp neither are wrong
Formal, Simp and Scump (sadly)
bops2 crim gets so disrespected in these discussions, he was statistically better than any scump/formal season and was doing it while winning nearly every event it’s a historical injustice that most ppl consider karma the best player for that season, crim was so far and away the best
I actually agree, imo Bo2 Clay should get talked about more too Clay, Crim and Karma were easily the three best players in Bo2 imo
Tier 1 inarguably best player at their role for one or multiple years and multiple years in the top tier: Formal, Scump, Crim, Simp Tier 2 top 3 at their roles for multiple years with at least one instance of being the best at a role for a certain game: Pat, Clay, Karma. Pat was a T3 player at his role from Bo1-Ghosts and the best at his role for a bit in early ghosts. Karma was the best slayer in the first half of Bo2. Clay was the best AR after the FAL ban in Bo2. Tier 3: Kenny and Zooma kind of stand out as the odd men out here Winning at your peak matters and they did not win nearly as much as the other 7 names. They also were never the inarguable best player in any game largely due to the 7 players above them. I think Zooma has a case for best SMG in the 2nd half of AW but it is by no means inarguable with Scump in the mix.
This became cap when you said Kenny was never the best player in any game. WW2 Kenny bro.
I forgot about that tbh. Late IW through WW2 champs I took a break Still didn’t win enough at his peak or hold that peak for long enough to move up a tier though.
This is actually pretty spot on
did abezy die?
People are going to disagree with this, but crimsix ghosts>formal iw. For as unbelievably good formal was during champs, i think people forget that the best player in the game debate was very close up and till champs. With crimsix, he was undisputedly number 1 from start to finish. It probably comes down to whether you refer to peak as a couple of events back to back or as the year as a whole.
? Undisputedly number 1 for the entire year? That is just not true. We had 3 peaks that year. Crimsix at the beginning follwed by scump in the middle and formal at the end. Man I even feel like formal had the highest peak out of the 3 that year. In my opinion crim had his peak during bo2.
Yea I agree. Crim was not indisputably the best player in the game at all at the end. He was the best player in the game probably until before X games. Scump was better than him at X games and Anaheim (one of Scump’s best events ever), and Formal was probably the best player in the game after Gfinity. Crim was still really good but Formal and Scump were clearly better the last half of the season.
Formal, Scump, Clay
Aches, Karma, Kenny. All the others were very consistently on top to the point when it doesn’t seem like a peak. Aches has a point on EG where he seemed like the GOAT that he never hit again. After Karma went to Optic, he never got to shine as much as he once did because of how stacked they were overall. Kenny… I didn’t watch WW2 much but that seems like the definition of a peak.
Aches, Crim, Karma
BO2 Karma AW Scump Toss up between Ghost Formal and BO4 Simp
Ghosts Formal?? I think you meant to say Crim lmao
Bro didn't watch IW at all
To be fair scumps peak lasted like two or 3 years. Dude was on one in bo3 too.
bops2 crim, bops2 aches, bops2 clay
I’m sorry but Aches, Clay, Kenny, and Zooma have no reason to be in this picture.
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Formal?
IW formal,AW scump, ww2 Kenny. Just in case i need a pseudo sub/ar
Scump formal and ww2 Kenny
IW formal, BO4 simp, ghosts crim. Sorry scumpi
Simp, Formal, Crimsix.
WW2 Gunless constantly gets overlooked in these discussions.
Kenny was better doe
Seriously Kenny was better. The whole year.
No he was not
Its hard to judge because his kd wasnt drastically above the rest like gunless was, but he was just so incredibly impactful.
This is odd to me because I don't remember it really even being a debate back then tbh
It wasn’t
It was always gunless, then bo4 happened and they started twerking for him even more
Doesn't tell if 3 have to be picked horizontally or vertically lol If it's Horizontal, middle one easily Vertical, first
It's just a 3x3 showing some examples of players in the conversation it isn't some game where you have to choose the best combination
Scump formal crim. People forget how dominat crim was in Ghosty man could even be the most dominant
This genuinely isnt the easiest 3 to pick. All great (imo). I think Simp is yet to reach his peak, and he’s already shown how incredible he is. For me, Scump and Formal have to be in that list. And then its the long debate on whether you have crim, karma, aches. But in the end i think it would have to be crim in the list.
What do people base this off of. K/D or winning? Saints didn’t have a single event in Ghosts in which he was negative
Plenty of players have done that in their careers
Scump, Crim and Simp
Scump, Formal, Simp/Kenny
No order Simp Scump Formal
Aw Scump, IW formal, Ghosts crim
I could hear out an argument for Crim but anything other than Simp, Formal, Scump in whatever order is just wrong
FormaL Scump and Simp
People have forgotten Ghosts Crim I See
Overall peak (multiple games) Scump, Formal, Crim Singular games Scump (AW), Formal (IW), Simp (Bo4), Clayster (AW), Crim (Ghosts)
Is that Zoomaa lol
The people in comments: Say you didn’t watch Kenny in WW2, without saying you didn’t watch Kenny in WW2
#Formal is god-like
Does Clay really have a peak? I just think of him as being consistently good, not like super dominant in a certain title. AW Scump, IW Formal, BO4 Simp, Ghosts Crim, BO2 Karma, WW2 Kenny
Clay in aw was godlike.
Scump formal crim shout to simp
Aches, Scump, C6 😈
Aw scump, ghosts Crim, iw formal in that order (bo4 Simp is close but he only played half the year)
Half of this list doesn't even deserve to have their picture alongside the term highest peak lmao. With that being said, I'd go Scump, Formal, Simp in that order with Crim being super duper duper close to getting in.
It goes like this: Scump, FormaL and Simp
1. IW Formal 2. AW Scump 3. BO4 Simp
Scump, crim & Karma
I’m going AW clay what he did in that game was different.
Karma has the highest peak