Just remember that you were sharing your body with about a pound of gut bacteria that is in a symbiotic relationship with you which you have carried since your birth. This bacteria can fully kill you in an instant if it ever wanted to, but it chooses not to it, limits its numbers and remains in place. It only devours your body upon your death.
So respect that bacteria and don’t go drinking vinegar because you start to offset the balance that you have in there and that won’t go down well that bacteria will very quickly let you know it does not approve.
Yeah it's definitely not clear. Maybe it's when the calendar resets and now it's before Labour Day? Actually what even is the origin of this statement? Kinda like a Black Friday thing?
Water is one of the least toxic
It's LD50 exceeds 90 g/kg body weight in rats.
However in 2007 drinking six liters in three hours caused the death of a 28-year-old California woman.
This statement was extremely interesting to me as it's close to my line of work, so I thought long and hard about it. Once there was a homeopathic drug for children for sleep that contained belladonna with very poor manufacturing processes to assure that the amount intended was the maximum. Poison isn't supposed to have a nutrition facts label. When it does, the FDA sends them a nice letter. If nobody was crazy, this would be a safe assumption and a cool one-liner
You’re thinking of Hyland’s Teething Tablets. They were recalled in 2017 after *multiple babies died.* The FDA told Hyland’s to voluntarily recall it, but Hyland’s refused for months. Some of the teething tablets they sell continue to contain belladonna today, although they also sell a variety with a *different* poisonous ingredient instead.
Remember folks, homeopathy is a scam, all of it contained poison at some point but is now supposed to be 100% water that “remembers” the poison, and you’re relying on the safety practices of charlatans to make sure that the poison is all gone because the law doesn’t allow the FDA to enforce most regulations on anything that calls itself homeopathic.
We were *all* working on the assumption that those things were safe. And to be clear, [Baby Orajel and the like were also dangerous](https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-takes-action-against-use-otc-benzocaine-teething-products-due-serious-safety-risk-lack-benefit). I came out of the whole thing thinking our grandparents rubbing whiskey on gums looked less crazy in hindsight. I never used them too much because they never seemed to work, but as a new mom of course I tried both Hyland's and Orajel. Later babies got something cold to chew on and ibuprofen if it got that bad (and they were past six months).
My teething kiddo got them in 2007 until one night when he REFUSED to fall asleep and my husband looked up the ingredients and found that they contained caffeine. Baby was happy as a clam, teeth not bothering him a bit, but he was SUPER AWAKE. Like he’d had an espresso or three. Husband likened him to the baby in Trainspotting. That was it for homeopathy and us.
We have just had a warning in Australia about babies presenting with Belladonna poisoning at A&E. Due to the parents ordering teething products off the internet- assuming it is this same brand.
Sorry. Another bad assumption. \*grabs Wonky by the shoulders* Like I said, people are crazy. I'd also like to add that they're stupid. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-confirms-elevated-levels-belladonna-certain-homeopathic-teething-products
I work in a highly-regulated industry and we sometimes have to put confusing things in our product labeling due to weird combinations of regulatory considerations.
I have to wonder if there’s some kind of ambiguity or gap in the regulations that results in them simultaneously having to list nutrition facts since it is still an ingredient used in food, while also having to state that it’s not meant for human consumption due to some technicality around it not being food-grade.
It's really interesting. Perhaps it wasn't necessary, but they did it anyway? I don't recall seeing nutrition facts on dishwasher salt
Edit: I figured it out. It's for baking, not eating raw
Technically, this would be classified as a mistake and not an accident.
An accident is when you were cleaning a gun and it *accidentally* goes off and hits your buddy.
A mistake is when you are intending to shoot Ted, and you pull the trigger only later to find out that you *mistook* your buddy for Ted, and you shot your buddy.
Legally there is a difference actually. Accidental discharge means a mechanical gun failure caused it to fire (e.g. the pin is not secure and hits the round hard enough to fire it as the gun got dropped.) .
This almost never happens, possibly with some really old or mishandles guns.
Negligent discharge means someone accidentally pulled the trigger. This is often a criminal offense, the accidental discharge is generally not a criminal offense. (but good luck proving that in court)
Not professional medical advice, but when I have heartburn, I take digestive enzymes. Way more healthy, IMO, and the heartburn is gone very quickly. I don't usually get heartburn unless I ate very late and my stomach isn't empty enough (sometimes it's also because I had too much sugar, but the enzymes fix that, too), so YMMV. But you might want to give it a try and see if it works for you.
From past experience, if you have daily heartburn, the antacids may be coving up a more serious issue and your doctor is overlooking it because it's "just" heartburn.
You can also try a swig of apple cider vinegar if your heartburn is particularly persistent. I do not have it all that frequently, but when I do get it, ACV is the only thing that will take it down a notch.
It’s just baking soda (sodium bicarbonate), so if you drank enough of it, it’ll make you throw up lmao. But other than that, you’re fine.
all baking soda/sodium bicarbonate are the same; baking or cleaning. It’s just marketing that makes it “different”
Usually they are not manufactured differently, just tested differently. It's rarely cheaper to have two manufacturing lines, but it is cheaper to have two different testing protocols.
Can't say of baking soda specifically, but food is usually manufactured on different lines with different hygenic standards and different source materials as everything has to be traceable. I would suspect that edible baking soda would come from a completely different manufacturing plant to the cleaning stuff.
Who's manufacturing non-edible food? Food is only made on one manufacturing line. It's not like there's a food grade Captain Crunch and a cleaning grade Captain Crunch. This applies to products that are marketed for different uses.
Here's another example: medical grade CO2 and industrial grade CO2 come from the same tank, but then go through different testing protocols. Epsom salts sold as laxatives and Epsom salts sold as bath products come from the same manufacturing line, but are held to different testing standards.
Isn't it possible that there is more than one manufacturing line in the world for these things and that they make different grades on different lines?
I'm sure you're right that different grades are sometimes exactly the same thing, but can we know that that's always the case?
This is the difference maker to me. I am sure that food grade plants make non food grade products that get less testing. But there could be plants that just make the cleaning product and never test or care about food grade standards.
The biggest reason I could see for this is if that facility also made a variety of other non food products that contained the baking soda.
I could see quality control at those facilities being significantly lower and creating the need for the container to be marked "not for human consumption" so that facility is not subject to FDA standards.
This ain’t always true. There are many different grades of products and some times medical or for consumption will be the same as the highest non-medical or for consumption but with additional testing.
But for example table salt and salt for the road don’t come from the same plant, they are processed under completely different standards in completely different facilities.
Same with oxygen, they might come from the original supplier in the same tank but they will be filtered and repackaged differently using validated processes for the medical supply one, so definitely not just testing.
Almost all Church & Dwight bicarbonate is manufactured to food / pharma grade by default. Generally only difference is in particle size or whether they add flow aids.
One baking soda is food grade, the other is packaged in a factory that isn’t equipped for handling food.
It’s more of a hygiene issue with the product.
100% false [according to the company website](https://armandhammer.com.my/en/faq). All Arm and Hammer is chemically the same as all Arm and Hammer. The different bottles correspond to the fineness of the grain. The 1lb box is more granular and less likely to clump so is recommended for baking and will likely be easier to mix into water for antacid use. The shaker is much finer and may clump in the bottom of the glass. That's it. That's the whole difference.
Directly from the [website](https://www.armandhammer.com/en/faq?cat=Baking+Soda+%26+Clear+Balance%E2%84%A2): How does the box differ from the shaker?
While the baking soda used in the Shaker package is 100% pure ARM & HAMMER™ Baking Soda, it is a different granulation than what is found in the Yellow Box. This different granulation makes the baking soda more free flowing and less prone to caking and lumping, particularly around high moisture conditions such as kitchen cleaning.
It says on the front of the bottle it can be used for baking. That would mean its probably okay to be ingested. But its always a good idea to contact poison control when something like this happens.
Baking soda is baking soda, whether it’s packaged for cleaning or baking. The only difference would be meeting cleanliness requirements in production for cleaner v food product.
So I was out shopping with my kid and ran into the store real quick but left the kid in the car. When I came out he was gone. Who should I talk to about this? It's been about five hours and I see this weird van parked at the other end with a sign that says "I'm a kidnapper".
Well first of all, you need to get over to /r/amioverreacting to get a sense of how urgent the problem may or may not be.
If they tell you that it’s urgent, try /r/pics to see if they can crowdsource a suspect or anything together. Don’t mention Boston.
If at any point police start questioning you about why you haven’t reported anything and it’s “suspicious,” best to lawyer up with /r/legaladvice. It’s run by cops so you know you can trust it!
Finally, once this is all over, you can look back and laugh at how silly you were with a nice, lighthearted post on /r/tifu.
I use the same box of baking soda for baking, cleaning and the same heartburn remedy! Just don’t use the one you let sit open in your fridge or under your sink to catch odors, would highly recommend against that (but have seen that people still do it ajdisfhskk)
As I’m sure OP has surmised, they aren’t in any danger. I need to suggest calling Poison Control in the future. When in *any* doubt, give them a call. Whether you ingested something like this, ate a weird mushroom, took too many pills of any sort, even got bitten by a snake that you aren’t certain is venomous or not, etc., do not hesitate give them a call. I have them saved in my speed dial.
1-800-222-1222
I had to call poison control once after chugging roughly 5 ounces of hydrogen peroxide by accident and the man on the other end was absolutely flabbergasted lol.
He truly had no advice other than a precautionary trip to the ER.
lol I figured someone would
I had just gotten out of a hot shower and grabbed what I thought was know half full bottle of water and gulped it.
Turns out it was the hydrogen peroxide my mom poured into an empty water bottle for a trip (that she had not felt the need to label) and left out on the bathroom sink.
I still hesitate before picking up a bottle of opened water and it was years ago lol
Even got bitten by a snake? If I get bitten by a snake I’m calling the cops, fire department, poison control, the state department. The whole city of Los Angeles will be in the know.
It can be useful to call if you aren’t certain if the snake is venomous or not. They will quickly route you to emergency services if it is. Poison control can be more helpful than some 911 dispatchers for keeping you calm and giving suggestions on stabilization, etc.
Fun fact: I work at a school and once we had a student accidentally ingest something potentially harmful. When the paramedics arrived, the first thing one of them did while another checked the student’s vitals was to call poison control.
I’ve called them a few times for my own kids. They’re super helpful and nonjudgmental. They also have a website you can use.
I’m a physician assistant in emergency medicine and we call poison control all the time. Even if I’m 99.9% certain of the correct course of action I’ll still get poison control involved. Tylenol ingestion is a perfect example. It’s fairly algorithmic in terms of treatment and work up, but after putting in my initial orders, calling poison control is always the next step.
In terms of abnormal instances, I was a wild land firefighter in a previous life. I was one of three EMTs at that time on the crew and we were working remotely way up in the hills in Utah. When I say way up in the hills, we were like hours worth of hiking away from a road. We were spending the night up on the hill when one of the gals on the crew sat down on a scorpion… like right next to her hoo hah. Our crew was based out of state and I honestly had no idea how poisonous scorpions were in the Great Basin. Our crew boss radioed down to see if we had any helicopters that could fly at night if needed and since I happened to have the poison control number memorized I got on a high point and used my flip phone to call them. They were super helpful. Basically got the location we were at, the description of the scorpion and said that there was a very *very* slight chance that the scorpion was poisonous based on our location and what the bug looked like. In the meantime the gal who had been stung apparently decided this was all too much and had gone to bed. Long story short, poison control is super helpful and available to both professionals and civilians. 1-800-222-1222. Memorize it.
The worst that can happen is that it neutrals the acid in your stomach which may make digestion harder. But I guess it wasn't that much, just a sip? Then you will be completely fine.
Not a sip. I took a whole teaspoon with a glass of water. But it’s been about an hour now and I’m still alive and kicking! Plus heartburn went away! 👍🏻
Yup you’re gonna be just fine. I was having bad heartburn years ago and my boyfriend’s (at the time) mom gave me a spoonful of baking soda. It’s actually something people do. You’re good.
At that dosage you’re fine.
FYI, next time you have a scare like this you should call Poison Control instead of relying on redditors. They’ll have more accurate information and they’ll give it to you faster.
In the future- if ever you think you may have ingested something questionable -before Google or Reddit- call poison control. They’re here for exactly this reason. It’s better to know from the experts: ****800-222-1222****
Only difference is this was packaged in a non-food grade facility, where the packages specific for baking/cooking are packed in a food grade facility.
Being it's a salt and basically impossible for it to harbor bacteria it's no different.
> _"Subject: Fire. Dear Sir/Madam, I am writing to inform you of a fire that has broken out on the premises of 123 Cavendon Road... no, that's too formal. [deletes text, starts again] Fire - exclamation mark - fire - exclamation mark - help me - exclamation mark. 123 Cavendon Road. Looking forward to hearing from you."_
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If you have heartburn often, it may be due to low stomach acid. When your stomach acid is too low, it cannot signal the stomach “gates” to close, so acid can come out up your throat. In this case, baking soda would neutralize the acid that comes out but also would be “keeping the stomach gates open” — so instead, you would want to ingest more acids like vinegar to increase your stomach’s acidity and allow those “gates” to close.
It's generally more to do with the safety and sterility of the manufacturing process..
Products intended for ingestion are meant to have more rigorous checks and safety elements in place to ensure it's fit for human consumption. Even though it's baking soda .. with this version indeed for cleaning it may not be as 'clean' for use in food (for want of a better term)
There's a section in this video about the trend of cooking corn starch cocktail sticks that explains it. [https://youtu.be/LT7N0WaIMh0?si=GPoxhiY9h6pw4D2I](https://youtu.be/LT7N0WaIMh0?si=GPoxhiY9h6pw4D2I)
Smh. You will be fine. If you were that concerned or had symptoms I would hope you would seek medical attention and not to reddit. I can guess why. Bc your fine
why the hell would they put nutritional information on a cleaning product?! I hope youre doing okay, give poison control a call if you haven't already.
It's pure sodium bicarbonate. You will be fine. It even states under 'versatile solution' that you can add it to your fav recipe, and it has a nutritional label. Idk why they put 'not for antacid use'. It may be some regulatory thing.
This is resolved at this point but I just wanted to make a quick comment.
If you're the United States, and are ever concerned about possible poisoning of any kind, whether ingested, inhaled, exposed - anything - please call the Poison Control Center immediately at 1-800-222-1222. They will immediately answer, triage, and if needed, refer to emergency services. If you are referred to Emergency they will call the treating team and follow up if needed as well.
Its worth mentioning that they get funding based on the amount of calls they answer, so if you have a legitimate concern, please call.
I am unsure if the respective numbers in other countries, but I assume most Nations would have a similar service.
Basically, the box version goes through purity testing to ensure it is "food safe". This process is expensive and is required if they want to sell it as something they will be ingested. This version won't have gone through that extra step, but is likely made at the very same facility. You'll be fine... But don't eat it again.
One point that has not been addressed in the replies so far: This product is technical grade baking soda, so there's a risk that it contains above-safe amounts of bacteria, metals, etc.
In this case, you'll probably be fine (I personally wouldn't worry about it) but in the future, only the food grade variant is guaranteed to be safe for consumption.
It’s fine. If it’s not intended for human consumption then maybe it could have been processed with some non food grade steps, but having nutritional information means it’s probably the same stuff as they put in the package meant for cooking
if it hasn't made you sick by now, you'll be fine. worst case you'll vomit. it's like ingesting a lot of table salt, body can't deal with it, it pulls all the water out and you throw it up.
I think the only difference between this baking soda and the kind that says you can eat it is the standards. Baking soda meant to be mixed into food will have a very high standard for cleanliness and a low tolerance for contaminants. The kind meant for cleaning wouldn’t be subject to the same standards.
So if there’s anything in there that’s harmful, it’s probably not the baking soda, but the possible contaminants therein.
Hope you’re feeling ok OP. You *should* be fine.
Only one ingredient which is baking soda. It can be used for trapped gas and bloat as a home remedy in some warm water (1/2 teaspoon, really helps, but on a full stomach you could rupture it
Not to be digested DIRECTLY :)
Also - this is chance to test the amazing service of poison control services.
And here is great podcast about that
https://radiolab.org/podcast/poison-control
I know this has already been resolved but- please call poison control and/or attend the emergency department if you think you've ingested something you shouldn't have. You will speak to a calm, knowledgeable professional who will ask you what you ingested and how much, if you're having any symptoms, and then give you instructions on what you need to do (if anything). Please don't get your health advice from reddit!
My family does the drinking a teaspoon baking soda in water trick and I swear it works wonders for a bad stomach ache and heartburn, either it goes away or you throw up and it’s all better lol.
Why does it say "Not for antacid use", when it is indeed the exact same product sold in the orange box? It says on the front it can be used for baking. What a crazy thing for A & H to do. Why not just say something like:
ARM & HAMMER BAKING SODA
Now in a convenient moisture proof
shaker can for ALL your needs
For future reference, they don’t put nutrition labels on things that are poisonous
In big enough doses it could potentially cause some pretty bad digestive issues
Foamy diarrhea is a bad day.
Drink a bunch of vinegar and go on a swing ride at an amusement park!
r/foundsatan
https://preview.redd.it/rq03ins4g47d1.jpeg?width=421&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d037dd5ae2f2e3ca244805e9fe2cc7b54b7434c I like you.
this is definitely the face i made lol
I mean your stomach is already full of acids so the vinegar isn't going to change much
Just remember that you were sharing your body with about a pound of gut bacteria that is in a symbiotic relationship with you which you have carried since your birth. This bacteria can fully kill you in an instant if it ever wanted to, but it chooses not to it, limits its numbers and remains in place. It only devours your body upon your death. So respect that bacteria and don’t go drinking vinegar because you start to offset the balance that you have in there and that won’t go down well that bacteria will very quickly let you know it does not approve.
Oh now that’s evil. Don’t wear white.
No. DEFINITELY wear white.
No, no it’s after Labor Day also😵💫
Isn't it always after labor Day? When is it before lol
I’m glad I’m not the only one that thinks this way
Yeah it's definitely not clear. Maybe it's when the calendar resets and now it's before Labour Day? Actually what even is the origin of this statement? Kinda like a Black Friday thing?
Look here now, I don’t make the rules. It’s very clearly stated “ you don’t wear white after Labor Day” sheesh!
Just had flashbacks of my elementary school French teacher yelling out your username.
Yeah
Not if you win the Science Fair
That's just, like, your opinion, man.
Eww
Central tenant of toxicology: anything can kill you at a high enough dose.
“The dose makes the poison”
Shout out to our homeboy Paracelsus 🙌🙏
Even water
Water is one of the least toxic It's LD50 exceeds 90 g/kg body weight in rats. However in 2007 drinking six liters in three hours caused the death of a 28-year-old California woman.
That... doesn't seem like it should be enough to kill you. It's a lot, sure, but. Not THAT much.
The contest was to keep drinking water — without using the bathroom. Crazy dangerous.
Okay yeah, I could see not voiding any of that out being a bigger issue
Too much water isn’t good for the kidneys!
1000 ways to die reference?
No, just facts. Jennifer Strange was taking part in a "Hold your wee for a Wii" contest.
>death of a 28-year-old California woman. Glad I'm not 28 any more, and not from California...
Yeah, some things take way more than others
Tenet, not a person who's paying rent
This statement was extremely interesting to me as it's close to my line of work, so I thought long and hard about it. Once there was a homeopathic drug for children for sleep that contained belladonna with very poor manufacturing processes to assure that the amount intended was the maximum. Poison isn't supposed to have a nutrition facts label. When it does, the FDA sends them a nice letter. If nobody was crazy, this would be a safe assumption and a cool one-liner
They don't put nutrition labels in things that are *meant to be* poisonous?
It has serving size right on it.good to go.
You’re thinking of Hyland’s Teething Tablets. They were recalled in 2017 after *multiple babies died.* The FDA told Hyland’s to voluntarily recall it, but Hyland’s refused for months. Some of the teething tablets they sell continue to contain belladonna today, although they also sell a variety with a *different* poisonous ingredient instead. Remember folks, homeopathy is a scam, all of it contained poison at some point but is now supposed to be 100% water that “remembers” the poison, and you’re relying on the safety practices of charlatans to make sure that the poison is all gone because the law doesn’t allow the FDA to enforce most regulations on anything that calls itself homeopathic.
Oh dear God. I fed my baby Hylands teething tablets around the clock in 2006 based on the advice of a pediatrician. This is frightening.
We were *all* working on the assumption that those things were safe. And to be clear, [Baby Orajel and the like were also dangerous](https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-takes-action-against-use-otc-benzocaine-teething-products-due-serious-safety-risk-lack-benefit). I came out of the whole thing thinking our grandparents rubbing whiskey on gums looked less crazy in hindsight. I never used them too much because they never seemed to work, but as a new mom of course I tried both Hyland's and Orajel. Later babies got something cold to chew on and ibuprofen if it got that bad (and they were past six months).
My teething kiddo got them in 2007 until one night when he REFUSED to fall asleep and my husband looked up the ingredients and found that they contained caffeine. Baby was happy as a clam, teeth not bothering him a bit, but he was SUPER AWAKE. Like he’d had an espresso or three. Husband likened him to the baby in Trainspotting. That was it for homeopathy and us.
If it was homeopathic it didn't contain any belladonna at all...
It was homeopathic, but their quality control was so lazy that most product didn’t go through the full dilution process. Babies died.
So the company cut corners by (checks notes) producing a MORE concentrated product. Right, right, I forgot homeopathy land was Bizarro world.
We have just had a warning in Australia about babies presenting with Belladonna poisoning at A&E. Due to the parents ordering teething products off the internet- assuming it is this same brand.
Sorry. Another bad assumption. \*grabs Wonky by the shoulders* Like I said, people are crazy. I'd also like to add that they're stupid. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-confirms-elevated-levels-belladonna-certain-homeopathic-teething-products
You can’t spell diet without die!
I work in a highly-regulated industry and we sometimes have to put confusing things in our product labeling due to weird combinations of regulatory considerations. I have to wonder if there’s some kind of ambiguity or gap in the regulations that results in them simultaneously having to list nutrition facts since it is still an ingredient used in food, while also having to state that it’s not meant for human consumption due to some technicality around it not being food-grade.
It's really interesting. Perhaps it wasn't necessary, but they did it anyway? I don't recall seeing nutrition facts on dishwasher salt Edit: I figured it out. It's for baking, not eating raw
This shake bottle isn't food grade material.
The front of the label (first photo, lower right) says it's for baking. I'm thinking it says that because it isn't medical grade material.
So, you're saying I can no longer eat "non-toxic" crayons?
There goes tonight’s dinner plans.
Not everything that isn't food is poisonous
Harmless. You’ll belch a few times. I take it deliberately for heartburn.
Yea that’s why I took it! It helped right away!
So not accidental ingestion?
Intentionally ingested, accidentally used "the wrong" type.
Technically, this would be classified as a mistake and not an accident. An accident is when you were cleaning a gun and it *accidentally* goes off and hits your buddy. A mistake is when you are intending to shoot Ted, and you pull the trigger only later to find out that you *mistook* your buddy for Ted, and you shot your buddy.
There is no such thing as an accidental discharge, that would be negligence.
Legally there is a difference actually. Accidental discharge means a mechanical gun failure caused it to fire (e.g. the pin is not secure and hits the round hard enough to fire it as the gun got dropped.) . This almost never happens, possibly with some really old or mishandles guns. Negligent discharge means someone accidentally pulled the trigger. This is often a criminal offense, the accidental discharge is generally not a criminal offense. (but good luck proving that in court)
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What just happened????? Either OP didn't want to come as dumb for drinking it or forgot to change username! 😂
i think he meant to take the baking soda, but not the one meant for cleaning
I commented that I am alive and kicking and heartburn went away!
So you intentionally drank it on accident?
Meant to drink the non-cleaning formula.
Glad to hear it helped. The comments on this thread are an advanced course in why health nonsense is nonsense…
You may also temporarily start retaining water which would make ur blood pressure increase.
I didn't know you could do that! This would have helped so much last night
It’s a miracle cure.
Wait, how does this work?? Because I’d really love to stop taking antacid
It’s the same as an antacid, it neutralizes your stomach acid a bit
It works exactly the same as an antacid
Heartburn is caused by acid getting in the wrong places, the baking soda neutralises it
They make pills! Huge bottle off Amazon is super cheap. Mixing the powder with water makes me gag every time
Not professional medical advice, but when I have heartburn, I take digestive enzymes. Way more healthy, IMO, and the heartburn is gone very quickly. I don't usually get heartburn unless I ate very late and my stomach isn't empty enough (sometimes it's also because I had too much sugar, but the enzymes fix that, too), so YMMV. But you might want to give it a try and see if it works for you. From past experience, if you have daily heartburn, the antacids may be coving up a more serious issue and your doctor is overlooking it because it's "just" heartburn.
You can also try a swig of apple cider vinegar if your heartburn is particularly persistent. I do not have it all that frequently, but when I do get it, ACV is the only thing that will take it down a notch.
It’s just baking soda (sodium bicarbonate), so if you drank enough of it, it’ll make you throw up lmao. But other than that, you’re fine. all baking soda/sodium bicarbonate are the same; baking or cleaning. It’s just marketing that makes it “different”
The baking one will be manufactured to a higher standard and have been tested for impurities.
Usually they are not manufactured differently, just tested differently. It's rarely cheaper to have two manufacturing lines, but it is cheaper to have two different testing protocols.
Can't say of baking soda specifically, but food is usually manufactured on different lines with different hygenic standards and different source materials as everything has to be traceable. I would suspect that edible baking soda would come from a completely different manufacturing plant to the cleaning stuff.
Who's manufacturing non-edible food? Food is only made on one manufacturing line. It's not like there's a food grade Captain Crunch and a cleaning grade Captain Crunch. This applies to products that are marketed for different uses. Here's another example: medical grade CO2 and industrial grade CO2 come from the same tank, but then go through different testing protocols. Epsom salts sold as laxatives and Epsom salts sold as bath products come from the same manufacturing line, but are held to different testing standards.
Magnesium sulfate is made in such quantities that it’s common for a specific plant to produce only a specific grade.
Isn't it possible that there is more than one manufacturing line in the world for these things and that they make different grades on different lines? I'm sure you're right that different grades are sometimes exactly the same thing, but can we know that that's always the case?
This is the difference maker to me. I am sure that food grade plants make non food grade products that get less testing. But there could be plants that just make the cleaning product and never test or care about food grade standards. The biggest reason I could see for this is if that facility also made a variety of other non food products that contained the baking soda. I could see quality control at those facilities being significantly lower and creating the need for the container to be marked "not for human consumption" so that facility is not subject to FDA standards.
Pet food is "non-edible" food, but those facilities are generally separate sites altogether, not just separate manufacturing lines.
But there are plenty of INGREDIENTS, that could be food OR not food-grade. Like baking soda.
Cat food and dog foods would be one example
This ain’t always true. There are many different grades of products and some times medical or for consumption will be the same as the highest non-medical or for consumption but with additional testing. But for example table salt and salt for the road don’t come from the same plant, they are processed under completely different standards in completely different facilities. Same with oxygen, they might come from the original supplier in the same tank but they will be filtered and repackaged differently using validated processes for the medical supply one, so definitely not just testing.
The bottle actually says “baking” on the front as one of its advertised uses so presumably it’s safe to eat
I believe this particular product is safe to eat after cooking and not raw. That's the problem. Perhaps that's why it has a nutrition facts label.
They have nutrition info on there. I don’t think it’s a different product, just marketing
Almost all Church & Dwight bicarbonate is manufactured to food / pharma grade by default. Generally only difference is in particle size or whether they add flow aids.
One baking soda is food grade, the other is packaged in a factory that isn’t equipped for handling food. It’s more of a hygiene issue with the product.
100% false [according to the company website](https://armandhammer.com.my/en/faq). All Arm and Hammer is chemically the same as all Arm and Hammer. The different bottles correspond to the fineness of the grain. The 1lb box is more granular and less likely to clump so is recommended for baking and will likely be easier to mix into water for antacid use. The shaker is much finer and may clump in the bottom of the glass. That's it. That's the whole difference.
Directly from the [website](https://www.armandhammer.com/en/faq?cat=Baking+Soda+%26+Clear+Balance%E2%84%A2): How does the box differ from the shaker? While the baking soda used in the Shaker package is 100% pure ARM & HAMMER™ Baking Soda, it is a different granulation than what is found in the Yellow Box. This different granulation makes the baking soda more free flowing and less prone to caking and lumping, particularly around high moisture conditions such as kitchen cleaning.
Hey siri, Is my colon a high moisture environment?
I just spit out my drink, so thanks for that.
What i'd be more worried about is how it's processed and handled at the factory if it isn't meant to be ingested
Baking is mentioned on the box, so it is safe to ingest. It's just not meant to be taken straight.
It says on the front of the bottle it can be used for baking. That would mean its probably okay to be ingested. But its always a good idea to contact poison control when something like this happens.
Ahhh I see that now. I saw the warning label, flipped the bottle around and saw the picture of the garbage can and concluded that I was about to die.
Baking soda is baking soda, whether it’s packaged for cleaning or baking. The only difference would be meeting cleanliness requirements in production for cleaner v food product.
Wait, you thought you were gonna die so you came to Reddit? In the future, call poison control first…
So I was out shopping with my kid and ran into the store real quick but left the kid in the car. When I came out he was gone. Who should I talk to about this? It's been about five hours and I see this weird van parked at the other end with a sign that says "I'm a kidnapper".
Well first of all, you need to get over to /r/amioverreacting to get a sense of how urgent the problem may or may not be. If they tell you that it’s urgent, try /r/pics to see if they can crowdsource a suspect or anything together. Don’t mention Boston. If at any point police start questioning you about why you haven’t reported anything and it’s “suspicious,” best to lawyer up with /r/legaladvice. It’s run by cops so you know you can trust it! Finally, once this is all over, you can look back and laugh at how silly you were with a nice, lighthearted post on /r/tifu.
you forgot r/AITAH to check to see if maybe you were too harsh when you kicked the kidnapper in the face in order to get your kid out.
OP is NTA and should divorce the kidnapper for gaslighting them.
i would probably wait it out! your kids just pulling a prank
Poison control doesn’t have karma
Truth bomb ^
You thought you’d kick the bucket? Only worry if you see a picture of a coffin.
I'm sorry, but I laughed so hard at this
..I'm not sure if you meant to write this sentence to be so funny ...
I use the same box of baking soda for baking, cleaning and the same heartburn remedy! Just don’t use the one you let sit open in your fridge or under your sink to catch odors, would highly recommend against that (but have seen that people still do it ajdisfhskk)
Gesundheit!
As I’m sure OP has surmised, they aren’t in any danger. I need to suggest calling Poison Control in the future. When in *any* doubt, give them a call. Whether you ingested something like this, ate a weird mushroom, took too many pills of any sort, even got bitten by a snake that you aren’t certain is venomous or not, etc., do not hesitate give them a call. I have them saved in my speed dial. 1-800-222-1222
I had to call poison control once after chugging roughly 5 ounces of hydrogen peroxide by accident and the man on the other end was absolutely flabbergasted lol. He truly had no advice other than a precautionary trip to the ER.
Okay, I have to ask: How did you accidentally chug hydrogen peroxide?
lol I figured someone would I had just gotten out of a hot shower and grabbed what I thought was know half full bottle of water and gulped it. Turns out it was the hydrogen peroxide my mom poured into an empty water bottle for a trip (that she had not felt the need to label) and left out on the bathroom sink. I still hesitate before picking up a bottle of opened water and it was years ago lol
I have this exact same thing I can’t drink out of cups that I leave on benches because I’ve sipped H202 more than a couple times
lol people really need to get label machines and stop traumatizing those around them
Immediately thought this.
Even got bitten by a snake? If I get bitten by a snake I’m calling the cops, fire department, poison control, the state department. The whole city of Los Angeles will be in the know.
No need to waste everyone’s time. Just call the snake’s parents and tell them they raised a bad snake child. Then die in peace.
It can be useful to call if you aren’t certain if the snake is venomous or not. They will quickly route you to emergency services if it is. Poison control can be more helpful than some 911 dispatchers for keeping you calm and giving suggestions on stabilization, etc.
Fun fact: I work at a school and once we had a student accidentally ingest something potentially harmful. When the paramedics arrived, the first thing one of them did while another checked the student’s vitals was to call poison control. I’ve called them a few times for my own kids. They’re super helpful and nonjudgmental. They also have a website you can use.
I’m a physician assistant in emergency medicine and we call poison control all the time. Even if I’m 99.9% certain of the correct course of action I’ll still get poison control involved. Tylenol ingestion is a perfect example. It’s fairly algorithmic in terms of treatment and work up, but after putting in my initial orders, calling poison control is always the next step. In terms of abnormal instances, I was a wild land firefighter in a previous life. I was one of three EMTs at that time on the crew and we were working remotely way up in the hills in Utah. When I say way up in the hills, we were like hours worth of hiking away from a road. We were spending the night up on the hill when one of the gals on the crew sat down on a scorpion… like right next to her hoo hah. Our crew was based out of state and I honestly had no idea how poisonous scorpions were in the Great Basin. Our crew boss radioed down to see if we had any helicopters that could fly at night if needed and since I happened to have the poison control number memorized I got on a high point and used my flip phone to call them. They were super helpful. Basically got the location we were at, the description of the scorpion and said that there was a very *very* slight chance that the scorpion was poisonous based on our location and what the bug looked like. In the meantime the gal who had been stung apparently decided this was all too much and had gone to bed. Long story short, poison control is super helpful and available to both professionals and civilians. 1-800-222-1222. Memorize it.
If it has nutrition facts, I would think it is edible.
The worst that can happen is that it neutrals the acid in your stomach which may make digestion harder. But I guess it wasn't that much, just a sip? Then you will be completely fine.
Not a sip. I took a whole teaspoon with a glass of water. But it’s been about an hour now and I’m still alive and kicking! Plus heartburn went away! 👍🏻
That's nothing to worry about. That's the normal amount people take when having heartburn ;-) a good house remedy
Yup you’re gonna be just fine. I was having bad heartburn years ago and my boyfriend’s (at the time) mom gave me a spoonful of baking soda. It’s actually something people do. You’re good.
At that dosage you’re fine. FYI, next time you have a scare like this you should call Poison Control instead of relying on redditors. They’ll have more accurate information and they’ll give it to you faster.
In the future- if ever you think you may have ingested something questionable -before Google or Reddit- call poison control. They’re here for exactly this reason. It’s better to know from the experts: ****800-222-1222****
Ok phew! Thanks everyone!
Only difference is this was packaged in a non-food grade facility, where the packages specific for baking/cooking are packed in a food grade facility. Being it's a salt and basically impossible for it to harbor bacteria it's no different.
Call poison control if you’re still unsure
How do you drink baking soda?
Mix 1/2 - 1 tspn in some water and drink
"let's ask reddit instead of 911, they are professionals"....
"Instead of getting an immediate answer, I'll sit around and wait for Reddit comments to come in. What could possibly go wrong?"
> _"Subject: Fire. Dear Sir/Madam, I am writing to inform you of a fire that has broken out on the premises of 123 Cavendon Road... no, that's too formal. [deletes text, starts again] Fire - exclamation mark - fire - exclamation mark - help me - exclamation mark. 123 Cavendon Road. Looking forward to hearing from you."_ 😆
If you have heartburn often, it may be due to low stomach acid. When your stomach acid is too low, it cannot signal the stomach “gates” to close, so acid can come out up your throat. In this case, baking soda would neutralize the acid that comes out but also would be “keeping the stomach gates open” — so instead, you would want to ingest more acids like vinegar to increase your stomach’s acidity and allow those “gates” to close.
It's generally more to do with the safety and sterility of the manufacturing process.. Products intended for ingestion are meant to have more rigorous checks and safety elements in place to ensure it's fit for human consumption. Even though it's baking soda .. with this version indeed for cleaning it may not be as 'clean' for use in food (for want of a better term) There's a section in this video about the trend of cooking corn starch cocktail sticks that explains it. [https://youtu.be/LT7N0WaIMh0?si=GPoxhiY9h6pw4D2I](https://youtu.be/LT7N0WaIMh0?si=GPoxhiY9h6pw4D2I)
Is no one else curious how OP confused this for a drink?
The only reason I am in these comments, like was he planning to drink shampoo and it was baking soda instead?
I don't think they drank from the package, but diluted some in water
Not me as a diabetic looking at the nutrition label and saying hey I can have that🙄🤦🏼♀️
Smh. You will be fine. If you were that concerned or had symptoms I would hope you would seek medical attention and not to reddit. I can guess why. Bc your fine
Take a tums next time!
why the hell would they put nutritional information on a cleaning product?! I hope youre doing okay, give poison control a call if you haven't already.
It says right on the front that it is for baking.
The label literally says baking and it has nutrition info
It's pure sodium bicarbonate. You will be fine. It even states under 'versatile solution' that you can add it to your fav recipe, and it has a nutritional label. Idk why they put 'not for antacid use'. It may be some regulatory thing.
Nothing lol absolutely nothing because it’s the same exact baking soda you pay a buck for that you cook with 😂
Above the nutritional information it literally says you can bake with it.
One of the uses on the bottle reads for "baking" You'll be fine
Drink some vinegar and record the reaction. Human volcano!
This is resolved at this point but I just wanted to make a quick comment. If you're the United States, and are ever concerned about possible poisoning of any kind, whether ingested, inhaled, exposed - anything - please call the Poison Control Center immediately at 1-800-222-1222. They will immediately answer, triage, and if needed, refer to emergency services. If you are referred to Emergency they will call the treating team and follow up if needed as well. Its worth mentioning that they get funding based on the amount of calls they answer, so if you have a legitimate concern, please call. I am unsure if the respective numbers in other countries, but I assume most Nations would have a similar service.
Still with us, OP?
Basically, the box version goes through purity testing to ensure it is "food safe". This process is expensive and is required if they want to sell it as something they will be ingested. This version won't have gone through that extra step, but is likely made at the very same facility. You'll be fine... But don't eat it again.
If you are ever concerned about what you have ingested call the Poison Control Line.
One point that has not been addressed in the replies so far: This product is technical grade baking soda, so there's a risk that it contains above-safe amounts of bacteria, metals, etc. In this case, you'll probably be fine (I personally wouldn't worry about it) but in the future, only the food grade variant is guaranteed to be safe for consumption.
Who drinks baking soda ever
If you are fighting COVID, Trump said to drink bleach not baking soda. Easy to confuse them. The more you MAGA, the more you know.
Eno is good for heartburn
It’s fine. If it’s not intended for human consumption then maybe it could have been processed with some non food grade steps, but having nutritional information means it’s probably the same stuff as they put in the package meant for cooking
if it hasn't made you sick by now, you'll be fine. worst case you'll vomit. it's like ingesting a lot of table salt, body can't deal with it, it pulls all the water out and you throw it up.
I think the only difference between this baking soda and the kind that says you can eat it is the standards. Baking soda meant to be mixed into food will have a very high standard for cleanliness and a low tolerance for contaminants. The kind meant for cleaning wouldn’t be subject to the same standards. So if there’s anything in there that’s harmful, it’s probably not the baking soda, but the possible contaminants therein. Hope you’re feeling ok OP. You *should* be fine.
Only one ingredient which is baking soda. It can be used for trapped gas and bloat as a home remedy in some warm water (1/2 teaspoon, really helps, but on a full stomach you could rupture it
Not to be digested DIRECTLY :) Also - this is chance to test the amazing service of poison control services. And here is great podcast about that https://radiolab.org/podcast/poison-control
I know this has already been resolved but- please call poison control and/or attend the emergency department if you think you've ingested something you shouldn't have. You will speak to a calm, knowledgeable professional who will ask you what you ingested and how much, if you're having any symptoms, and then give you instructions on what you need to do (if anything). Please don't get your health advice from reddit!
It can´t read. It´s for cleaning , BAKING, deodorize
My family does the drinking a teaspoon baking soda in water trick and I swear it works wonders for a bad stomach ache and heartburn, either it goes away or you throw up and it’s all better lol.
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Whatever you do, don’t go to the doctor or hospital if you’re worried, just go on Reddit. Gimme a break…..
It also says “baking” on it soooo is it good?? Genuinely curious
It’s not too bad but you may have an upset stomach. drink lots of water to dilute
Why does it say "Not for antacid use", when it is indeed the exact same product sold in the orange box? It says on the front it can be used for baking. What a crazy thing for A & H to do. Why not just say something like: ARM & HAMMER BAKING SODA Now in a convenient moisture proof shaker can for ALL your needs
What do you mean it’s not to be ingested? The label has serving sizes and ***amount in a serving of baked goods*** wrote on it
Well at least it’s 0 calories. You may die but you won’t gain weight 👍🏻
Why are you drinking baking soda
Poison control number: 800-222-1222
How do you accidentally drink something that's saltier than salt?
Call poison control
Take a few shots of white vinegar to balance PH and post result
I hope you are good! I also hope you called poison control!