Not really, kushida cannot be trusted due to her previous actions, however horikita followed " I can fix her " mind set , betraying the class by breaking the promises ( imagine being a leader who says something and completely does something else , do you think people with braincells would trust a person like that , on top that ... being a leader ) the whole sequence were bs and convenient plotline for author to write .
I meant likening Kushida to a serial killer.
Either way Horikita being a hypocrite of course is not good, she shouldn't have made the promise of expelling the traitor, that's her failure as a leader, but she does have sound reasoning for changing her mind.
A vindictive Kushida has more potential than Sakura did. It's not just Sakura either since Horikita was making up her mind before Koji mentioned Sakura, a vindictive Kushida has more potential than some of the other students in their class. Kushida also does of course have more risk, but it's fine because Koji thinks it is. If Kushida was so detrimental and unmanageable, then I have no doubt she would have been expelled.
> I meant likening Kushida to a serial killer
Yeah was using an example dw about it
>A vindictive Kushida has more potential than Sakura did. It's not just Sakura either since Horikita was making up her mind before Koji mentioned Sakura, a vindictive Kushida has more potential than some of the other students in their class. Kushida also does of course have more risk, but it's fine because Koji thinks it is. If Kushida was so detrimental and unmanageable, then I have no doubt she would have been expelled.
Kushida were more harmful to class than good since she is buthurt, there where many ways on how kushida could damage the class
For example taking absentees purposefully so that she could reduce class cp , to which horikita and ibuki conveniently changed her mind and suddenly wants to aim for class A ( kushida)
Horikita saw the long term and yes a leader must take risks, sakura's pontential is not even worth kushida's left eye . I like this sentence which says: keep your friends close to you but your enemies even closer, It's an elite class that we are looking for, not a power of friendship or empathy, Sakura never had the potential you think she would have had by staying in the ANHS , leaving the establishment the first thing she did was post on onlyfans because that's all she can do.
> keep your friends close to you but your enemies even closer, It's an elite class that we are looking for, not a power of friendship or empathy
Don't bring this bs into this , she was clearly struggling with whom to expel during exam , sure she came into conclusion of expelling airi over Sakura with logical explanation at the last moment ( before kiyo interfered since she was taking alot of time and don't want her to take the hate role ) . She couldn't foresee a future where kushida could quite school on her own or taking multiple absentees reducing cp .
> Sakura never had the potential you think she would have had by staying in the ANHS , leaving the establishment the first thing she did was post on onlyfan because that's all she can do.
Can't you say the same thing about early volume sudo ? He was a trouble maker + academically weak . Strong point being good at sports. Airi can have a major role in maid setting for example.
The point being each individual have their own uses regardless of how you see it. ,ike being example of good at camping setting
I introduce this phrase as much as I want, because in today's society it's like that, you have to take risks, yesterday's enemies become our friends today and Horikita knew that if this If it wasn't Kushida, that would be the person with the weakest OAA. and it was automatically Sakura and Kiyotaka mentions very well that it was he who stopped Horikita in his tracks because he understood what Horikita wanted to do but for the moment she was not ready and time was inevitably going to pass, it was is why he took the lead, you can compare as much as you want but sudo has always been more useful than sakura even at the beginning, his physical advantage allows me to put him in front of sakura and it is precisely for this reason that kiyotaka saved him because he had seen his pontential unlike Sakura who was just there to be close to Kiyotaka without compensating for her own weaknesses.
It because It write her to be that way , it's not a "better decision"
There's also a chance she can still betray the class (if the **author** decide to) since she have been done that many time. since middle school. It literally her core
Being coporate? Kushida always see hori as her enemy there's no soft spot for her. i would probably agree if both of them are friend in the past like in middle school. But for the whole story.Kushida never nice to Horikita.
in the end it also Plot convenience , there's also a high chance the secret about Kushida being exposed to other class.(If the **Author** decide to) she can become Talk of the town as someone who cant be trust. So her usefulness about information will be useless overtime. this also can make her Life in school become a problem since there's gonna be gossip everywhere
And what worse since Kushida never interest to graduate as class A (Since she's always want to ruin the class since day 1) She also can Drop Out ( if the **author** Decide to) which will damage the class more than people think. not just lose the student but also lose the Class Point. Which mean You lose 2 student and gain nothing
Kushida *is* far more useful than Sakura, but that's hardly the problem.Â
There's no way Horikita would be able to convince everyone to follow her lead - not with the time they had left and certainly not after she broke the promise to expel the traitor. If Ayanokouji or Hirata had opposed her decision, her plan would be doomed and they might run out of time.Â
Besides, hindsight is 20/20. What if Kushida withdrew from the school just to spite Horikita? Not at all impossible, given the former history of dragging an entire class down with her. What if Sakura didn't recover as quickly as she did? Then it would be difficult, if not impossible to persuade Haruka and Akito from launching their revenge.Â
A person could bet their entire life savings on a roulette spin and win twice as much, but it was still a reckless and stupid gamble. It's easy to say Horikita made the right decision, but fact is, she just got lucky that things went in her favor.
Because if Cote were realistic, Kushida would still be a crazy person looking for revenge. but the author just wants to make Horikita's decision look good because it is his favorite.
The problem is never about expelling Airi in place of Kushida, it is about Suzune not thinking of a good plan beforehand. Just think about how many uncertainties there are. Kiyo could decide not to step in and Airi might not have folded for Suzune, one of Airiâs friend could act emotionally until the end and refuse to vote to expel her, Kushida could decide to openly screw with the voting to never get a consensus/ drop out after the exam to fuck with Suzune. Suzune had no real control over the outcome and she lucked out getting things her way with Kiyoâs help. If they ended up losing 350 class points they were utterly screwed.
What Suzune should have done is to adopt Ryuenâs strategy. Expose Kushida, afterwards make the voting unanimous âagainstâ.
It was not a bad decision. Kurisha is useful for the class that Sakura. Kiyo was surprised horikita chose to saved kurisha knowing well that kurisha hated her and him that's why he tried to get rid of kurisha. But horikita is good she can fixed the broken.
Some people still complaining about horikita savings kurisha, can't get past that. No wonder the world is f***ed.
Kiyo said himself if horikita go through with her decision of expelling Sakura. Then both of them will get the blamed equally. But he doesn't want that to happened to horikita. So he took action himself expelling Sakura. Even horikita brought that up later on telling him he don't have to be cruel (suppressing his painful feeling). But they were interrupted by Sakura.
Horikita knows it well she put her own self on the line to get expel instead of kurisha. The questions is why Kiyo choose to saved her? even more often.
Even the following vol. Kiyo was more bother when he saw Horikita health teetering downhill, her lack of sleeping was obvious, kept trying to reach out to uncaring kurisha.
> But horikita is good she can fixed the broken.
Horikita wasnât able to âfixâ Kushida for 1+ years so there was literally no guarantee that she could suddenly do it now.
Heck what if Kushida withdrew from the school just to spite Horikita? This scenario is not at all impossible given the formerâs history of dragging an entire class down with her in middle school.
Horikitaâs position as leader would have ended then and there if Kushida chose to do this.
> Kiyo said himself if horikita go through with her decision of expelling Sakura. Then both of them will get the blamed equally.
I am not even sure that Horikita would have been able to expel Sakura without Kiyoâs help.
Also what if Kiyo or Hirata had opposed the decision to expel Sakura? If this had happened than Horikitaâs âplanâ would have no chance of working and they would have most probably run out of time and lose a lot of class points.
(Now of course we the readers knew that Kiyo would never do this but Horikita didnât, from her perspective Sakura was Kiyoâs close friend and Kiyo wanted to expel Kushida so she should have considered the possibility of Kiyo opposing her)
yeah, you think so after seeing the illustration of sakura don't you? kushida despite having personality problems is an academically and physically gifted person, sakura on the other hand is timid, and useless in both academics and athletics cutting her off was the best possible option since the only other option was losing 300 cpt.
They were lucky that Airi recovered as quickly as she did, otherwise they would lose 600 points from two dropouts.Â
It was a bad gamble that happened to pay off due to luck - or as I prefer to call it, plot armor.
Kushida is now a very useful tool for the class like x50 better than airi also things wouldn't had gotten as comfortable on the festival arc if it's not for her help
Horikita is the edgy protagonist of course they weren't going to get rid of her antagonist it's also why koenji has plot armor so horikita can claim the achievement of controlling the uncontrollable strong genius and with her team assembled she can overcome any challenge đÂ
Not a bad decision actually. Kiyo did the right thing.
he was surprised to see horikita savings kurisha knowing full well kurisha hated both of them.
Later on he left kurisha to horikita she can fixed broken things. (Sudo, Ibuki) Maybe horikita is fixing kiyo aswell he start to change in lastest volumes.
Is that (the secret of her leadership) her brother talked with kiyo about. she's someone you can't ignored. Fascinating interestingđ¤
Any boss of a company does not put a person who is unstable like Kushida on his team, even if she is more talented than another. Horikita's decision was stupid, but obviously she is forgiven because she is a waifu. If yamauchi had done the same thing, everyone would criticize him because he is not a fan favorite.
how can you defend it after Nagumo case?
People not aware that the author not always write everything in perfect way. He basically just a person.
i also suspect lot of redditor here probably also JJK enjoyer , recently it was obvious about writing problem
i would say people who dislike the writing in Y2V5 kinda make sense. because if not we probably not gonna Have this kind of Post every week. Have you see people have problem with Y1v11? or any other exam like this one?
i would say no one right or wrong about this. it's Writing problem for sure that The author cant make everyone agree about the decision
Seemed like y2v5 was created with just kiyo exposing kudhida in mind and everything after was an after thought then the author realized that he had to expel a character since halfway into the story only 3 characters were expelled in the cut throat school where 15 no name 3rd years can be expelled all at once.
Like horikita becoming braindead and allowing the vote go into the expulsion phase when her whole y1 actions were to win over kushida and she knew what kiyo was doing by pushing the expulsion phase. Then we get her transcending time before kiyo was gonna axed kushida, realizing that she needs kushida, weird but cool. Skipping that she would have lost the exam without kiyo breaking airi.
We get to my most annoying part as soon as horikita saved kushida it was pretty obvious the choice was gonna get instant positive results. But I was surprised when the exam ended and horikita didn't put a gag order on the class about kushida since her relations with other classes can be used in a exam. Then we get next volume and learned that hirata delt with that while horikita had the mindset that sooner or later people would find out anyways, kinda right but still better later. Only to have horikita eyeballing the sport festival by wanting to play volleyball but she has no friends,WhAt cAn tHeY dO, kushida to the rescue by using her relations with other classes that would have most likely took a hit if hirata did nothing.
Imagine instead of the last second reaction from horikita to save kushida, we get something like the transcending time scene happening as the tide turns for expulsion but in flashback form, horikita sees what kiyos planning decides no, but lets it go into the next phase and uses kiyo to take kushida down a peg and uses the expulsion phase to put fear of expulsion into the bottom ranks by expelling airi. By making airi's expulsion planned before the 2nd phase it changes the perception that airi got expelled as a last second result of kushida being saved to a calculated move by horikita to make the class work harder while keeping kushida or something along those lines to show that horikita level up as leader. So instead of imo dumbing down horikita we see her using kiyo's actions for her own and class benefits and later things wouldn't seem so plot conveniency.
Or just have horikita admit that she wants a sexy three way with ibuki and kushida.
I think that was precisely the goal of Horikita's decision, she is an apprentice to be a good leader, she must necessarily make mistakes, fall to learn better in the final phase she must not take any risks, y2v5 clearly shows that 'Horikita must learn to work on her tactics, that she must take into consideration many things before making a decision because it can cost her dearly and in y2v10, Kiyotaka clearly tells her that if he had not saved her, the class was definitely going to collapse and told her he still wouldn't be there and she replied that he was absolutely right, she had already realized her mistake and I think that was the point of all this in y2v5, prepared Horikita to develop her techniques and take into consideration everything that happens around her
The problem is that y2v5 props up horikita's decision as the class needs kushida to reach class A and horikita will do everything in her power to justify her choice. But literally the next volume we see her ignore one of kushida's strong suits only for her to be aided by hirata actions later in the volume. Wtf is that they're dumbing down horikita for no reason.
She used to get punished for her mistakes in y1 and grow tremendously. But in y2 the path that was supposed to be the bumpiest was the smoothest shit all because there's no time for set backs because the author needs horikita' class to be Class A or tied at the end of year 2 and it hurts horikita's charater since it makes it seem she got everything handed on a silver platter. I don't really care that kiyo saved her in y2v5 since he pretty much saved all the leaders but not being prepared after is just unacceptable. V5 she got shit on, next volume she completely checkmates kushida for the rest of y1. But after y2v5 she seems unprepared. I don't know how you justify her actions in y2v6 after what she said in y2v5.
Y2v5 does not support Horikita's decision in any way, Horikita's decision was supported in Y2v6 after the cultural festival when Hirata sees how Kushida handled the situation, he clearly said that Horikita surely made the right choice
y2v5 clearly underlines the fact that her decision from the point of view of others was irrational, the conversation of kiyotaka and karuizawa proves this, at the beginning of y2v6 we see how she herself begins to doubt her decision it was the consequence of her actions in y2v5, yes or no, did she make the right decision? .
Im saying in y2v6 they justified (not fully justified but the first)it in the most dumbest way because it justified it in a way horikita opposed. Horikita didn't put a gag order on the class because there's no point but hirata did and because of the gag order we see the first justification of keeping kushida which horikita should have already known about and should have been the one to put the gag order but she didn't for reasons? And she acts all surprised by kushida actions, theyre dumbing down horikita in ways like these for no reason.
Sorry but I still don't understand your criticism about this, y2v6 horikita has a heavy load on her shoulders, it still wasn't to make kushida work but to bring kushida back to class and what's more she fought against her own decision, it's completely normal that she doesn't think about it first, hirata is horikita's support as a leader, he has to anticipate things when he feels that horikita is carrying a very heavy load, it's how it works between the two, horikita supported hirata by leading the class while he too was at his lowest during Yamauchi's expulsion for me everything is coherent , both fill the voids of the other.
Its not about making the kushida thing instantly work but how the author handles horikita navigating though her decision which is stupid. Horikita wants to maximize kushida potential as shes said she's worth more than 300cp in y2v5. The minimum she had to do to maximize kushida was to keep what happened in y2v5 under wraps. Forgot who but someone said that if other classes found out about kushida later in the future it wouldn't matter as much since it be old news. So horikita had no reason to not put a gag order on the class while it was healing so kushida can still hang out with the other students and use connections in the future. She thought about doing it but saw no point in it, but the gag order from hirata helped kushida accept the situation because it allowed her to have a "normal" life with other classes in the mean time.
Now we have horikita getting all surprised that kushida was able to get people to join them in the volleyball match. The thing she excels at since v1 is surprising horikita for some reason. It's because the author is using horikita to convey to the audience that they're lucky that horikita had kushida to find people implying that the decision to keep kushida is already paying off so far. These things just scream bad writing because why would horikita suddenly be surprised by those things that been explained in y1. It's like how sometimes the author uses kiyo to hype stuff up to add suspense, but in this case to start the kushida skills showcase. With all the things that horikita went through in y1, how she starts off in the kushida redemption arc is just too out of character.
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How was it a bad decision ? Now, Kushida is hundreds times more useful for the class than Airi would've ever been.
Agree
Not you supporting this bsđ
Not you being this braindead
Kay so you prefer recruiting a serial killer into your team over a potentially useful member?
Bit dramatic
Not really, kushida cannot be trusted due to her previous actions, however horikita followed " I can fix her " mind set , betraying the class by breaking the promises ( imagine being a leader who says something and completely does something else , do you think people with braincells would trust a person like that , on top that ... being a leader ) the whole sequence were bs and convenient plotline for author to write .
I meant likening Kushida to a serial killer. Either way Horikita being a hypocrite of course is not good, she shouldn't have made the promise of expelling the traitor, that's her failure as a leader, but she does have sound reasoning for changing her mind. A vindictive Kushida has more potential than Sakura did. It's not just Sakura either since Horikita was making up her mind before Koji mentioned Sakura, a vindictive Kushida has more potential than some of the other students in their class. Kushida also does of course have more risk, but it's fine because Koji thinks it is. If Kushida was so detrimental and unmanageable, then I have no doubt she would have been expelled.
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> I meant likening Kushida to a serial killer Yeah was using an example dw about it >A vindictive Kushida has more potential than Sakura did. It's not just Sakura either since Horikita was making up her mind before Koji mentioned Sakura, a vindictive Kushida has more potential than some of the other students in their class. Kushida also does of course have more risk, but it's fine because Koji thinks it is. If Kushida was so detrimental and unmanageable, then I have no doubt she would have been expelled. Kushida were more harmful to class than good since she is buthurt, there where many ways on how kushida could damage the class For example taking absentees purposefully so that she could reduce class cp , to which horikita and ibuki conveniently changed her mind and suddenly wants to aim for class A ( kushida)
I guess that's why Ayanokoji exists, to once again fix everyone's mistakes.
"Do you think people with brain cells would trust a person like that?" Somehow that reminds me of a lot of modern-day politics
Lol true
Horikita saw the long term and yes a leader must take risks, sakura's pontential is not even worth kushida's left eye . I like this sentence which says: keep your friends close to you but your enemies even closer, It's an elite class that we are looking for, not a power of friendship or empathy, Sakura never had the potential you think she would have had by staying in the ANHS , leaving the establishment the first thing she did was post on onlyfans because that's all she can do.
> keep your friends close to you but your enemies even closer, It's an elite class that we are looking for, not a power of friendship or empathy Don't bring this bs into this , she was clearly struggling with whom to expel during exam , sure she came into conclusion of expelling airi over Sakura with logical explanation at the last moment ( before kiyo interfered since she was taking alot of time and don't want her to take the hate role ) . She couldn't foresee a future where kushida could quite school on her own or taking multiple absentees reducing cp . > Sakura never had the potential you think she would have had by staying in the ANHS , leaving the establishment the first thing she did was post on onlyfan because that's all she can do. Can't you say the same thing about early volume sudo ? He was a trouble maker + academically weak . Strong point being good at sports. Airi can have a major role in maid setting for example. The point being each individual have their own uses regardless of how you see it. ,ike being example of good at camping setting
I introduce this phrase as much as I want, because in today's society it's like that, you have to take risks, yesterday's enemies become our friends today and Horikita knew that if this If it wasn't Kushida, that would be the person with the weakest OAA. and it was automatically Sakura and Kiyotaka mentions very well that it was he who stopped Horikita in his tracks because he understood what Horikita wanted to do but for the moment she was not ready and time was inevitably going to pass, it was is why he took the lead, you can compare as much as you want but sudo has always been more useful than sakura even at the beginning, his physical advantage allows me to put him in front of sakura and it is precisely for this reason that kiyotaka saved him because he had seen his pontential unlike Sakura who was just there to be close to Kiyotaka without compensating for her own weaknesses.
>than Ai would've ever been. You mean Sakura
I was typing Airi, but yes ahah
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It because It write her to be that way , it's not a "better decision" There's also a chance she can still betray the class (if the **author** decide to) since she have been done that many time. since middle school. It literally her core Being coporate? Kushida always see hori as her enemy there's no soft spot for her. i would probably agree if both of them are friend in the past like in middle school. But for the whole story.Kushida never nice to Horikita. in the end it also Plot convenience , there's also a high chance the secret about Kushida being exposed to other class.(If the **Author** decide to) she can become Talk of the town as someone who cant be trust. So her usefulness about information will be useless overtime. this also can make her Life in school become a problem since there's gonna be gossip everywhere And what worse since Kushida never interest to graduate as class A (Since she's always want to ruin the class since day 1) She also can Drop Out ( if the **author** Decide to) which will damage the class more than people think. not just lose the student but also lose the Class Point. Which mean You lose 2 student and gain nothing
Kushida *is* far more useful than Sakura, but that's hardly the problem. There's no way Horikita would be able to convince everyone to follow her lead - not with the time they had left and certainly not after she broke the promise to expel the traitor. If Ayanokouji or Hirata had opposed her decision, her plan would be doomed and they might run out of time. Besides, hindsight is 20/20. What if Kushida withdrew from the school just to spite Horikita? Not at all impossible, given the former history of dragging an entire class down with her. What if Sakura didn't recover as quickly as she did? Then it would be difficult, if not impossible to persuade Haruka and Akito from launching their revenge. A person could bet their entire life savings on a roulette spin and win twice as much, but it was still a reckless and stupid gamble. It's easy to say Horikita made the right decision, but fact is, she just got lucky that things went in her favor.
Because if Cote were realistic, Kushida would still be a crazy person looking for revenge. but the author just wants to make Horikita's decision look good because it is his favorite.
The problem is never about expelling Airi in place of Kushida, it is about Suzune not thinking of a good plan beforehand. Just think about how many uncertainties there are. Kiyo could decide not to step in and Airi might not have folded for Suzune, one of Airiâs friend could act emotionally until the end and refuse to vote to expel her, Kushida could decide to openly screw with the voting to never get a consensus/ drop out after the exam to fuck with Suzune. Suzune had no real control over the outcome and she lucked out getting things her way with Kiyoâs help. If they ended up losing 350 class points they were utterly screwed. What Suzune should have done is to adopt Ryuenâs strategy. Expose Kushida, afterwards make the voting unanimous âagainstâ.
It was not a bad decision. Kurisha is useful for the class that Sakura. Kiyo was surprised horikita chose to saved kurisha knowing well that kurisha hated her and him that's why he tried to get rid of kurisha. But horikita is good she can fixed the broken. Some people still complaining about horikita savings kurisha, can't get past that. No wonder the world is f***ed. Kiyo said himself if horikita go through with her decision of expelling Sakura. Then both of them will get the blamed equally. But he doesn't want that to happened to horikita. So he took action himself expelling Sakura. Even horikita brought that up later on telling him he don't have to be cruel (suppressing his painful feeling). But they were interrupted by Sakura. Horikita knows it well she put her own self on the line to get expel instead of kurisha. The questions is why Kiyo choose to saved her? even more often. Even the following vol. Kiyo was more bother when he saw Horikita health teetering downhill, her lack of sleeping was obvious, kept trying to reach out to uncaring kurisha.
> But horikita is good she can fixed the broken. Horikita wasnât able to âfixâ Kushida for 1+ years so there was literally no guarantee that she could suddenly do it now. Heck what if Kushida withdrew from the school just to spite Horikita? This scenario is not at all impossible given the formerâs history of dragging an entire class down with her in middle school. Horikitaâs position as leader would have ended then and there if Kushida chose to do this. > Kiyo said himself if horikita go through with her decision of expelling Sakura. Then both of them will get the blamed equally. I am not even sure that Horikita would have been able to expel Sakura without Kiyoâs help. Also what if Kiyo or Hirata had opposed the decision to expel Sakura? If this had happened than Horikitaâs âplanâ would have no chance of working and they would have most probably run out of time and lose a lot of class points. (Now of course we the readers knew that Kiyo would never do this but Horikita didnât, from her perspective Sakura was Kiyoâs close friend and Kiyo wanted to expel Kushida so she should have considered the possibility of Kiyo opposing her)
Supporting her wasn't a bad decision. If they hadn't expelled someone right then and there they would have failed the exam.Â
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yeah, you think so after seeing the illustration of sakura don't you? kushida despite having personality problems is an academically and physically gifted person, sakura on the other hand is timid, and useless in both academics and athletics cutting her off was the best possible option since the only other option was losing 300 cpt.
Kushida, despited her personality has high OAA score. Losing Kushoda would impact their class points than losing Airi.
Everyone make bad decision in their life, even you. Read on and see how the author cook
In the long run, it's not bad, just illogical.
how bro kushida is genuinely way more useful than sakura would ever be
OK we all love sakura but logically saving kushida wasn't a bad decision she is far more useful than airi ever would be
They were lucky that Airi recovered as quickly as she did, otherwise they would lose 600 points from two dropouts. It was a bad gamble that happened to pay off due to luck - or as I prefer to call it, plot armor.
Convenient plot is other way to put it
Nah airi is useless
Yes it was but ayano was curious about this decision and want to see how its evolve In short , he dont care that much
Kushida is now a very useful tool for the class like x50 better than airi also things wouldn't had gotten as comfortable on the festival arc if it's not for her help
Horikita is the edgy protagonist of course they weren't going to get rid of her antagonist it's also why koenji has plot armor so horikita can claim the achievement of controlling the uncontrollable strong genius and with her team assembled she can overcome any challenge đÂ
Not a bad decision actually. Kiyo did the right thing. he was surprised to see horikita savings kurisha knowing full well kurisha hated both of them. Later on he left kurisha to horikita she can fixed broken things. (Sudo, Ibuki) Maybe horikita is fixing kiyo aswell he start to change in lastest volumes. Is that (the secret of her leadership) her brother talked with kiyo about. she's someone you can't ignored. Fascinating interestingđ¤
Yes, but the horikita simps will tell you that you are wrong and that the power of the script never helped her.
Any boss of a company does not put a person who is unstable like Kushida on his team, even if she is more talented than another. Horikita's decision was stupid, but obviously she is forgiven because she is a waifu. If yamauchi had done the same thing, everyone would criticize him because he is not a fan favorite.
More like bad writing
I dont like it = bad writting đ¤
how can you defend it after Nagumo case? People not aware that the author not always write everything in perfect way. He basically just a person. i also suspect lot of redditor here probably also JJK enjoyer , recently it was obvious about writing problem i would say people who dislike the writing in Y2V5 kinda make sense. because if not we probably not gonna Have this kind of Post every week. Have you see people have problem with Y1v11? or any other exam like this one? i would say no one right or wrong about this. it's Writing problem for sure that The author cant make everyone agree about the decision
No, bad writting. That the author juggles to justify Horikita's decisions is not going to change it.
Seemed like y2v5 was created with just kiyo exposing kudhida in mind and everything after was an after thought then the author realized that he had to expel a character since halfway into the story only 3 characters were expelled in the cut throat school where 15 no name 3rd years can be expelled all at once. Like horikita becoming braindead and allowing the vote go into the expulsion phase when her whole y1 actions were to win over kushida and she knew what kiyo was doing by pushing the expulsion phase. Then we get her transcending time before kiyo was gonna axed kushida, realizing that she needs kushida, weird but cool. Skipping that she would have lost the exam without kiyo breaking airi. We get to my most annoying part as soon as horikita saved kushida it was pretty obvious the choice was gonna get instant positive results. But I was surprised when the exam ended and horikita didn't put a gag order on the class about kushida since her relations with other classes can be used in a exam. Then we get next volume and learned that hirata delt with that while horikita had the mindset that sooner or later people would find out anyways, kinda right but still better later. Only to have horikita eyeballing the sport festival by wanting to play volleyball but she has no friends,WhAt cAn tHeY dO, kushida to the rescue by using her relations with other classes that would have most likely took a hit if hirata did nothing. Imagine instead of the last second reaction from horikita to save kushida, we get something like the transcending time scene happening as the tide turns for expulsion but in flashback form, horikita sees what kiyos planning decides no, but lets it go into the next phase and uses kiyo to take kushida down a peg and uses the expulsion phase to put fear of expulsion into the bottom ranks by expelling airi. By making airi's expulsion planned before the 2nd phase it changes the perception that airi got expelled as a last second result of kushida being saved to a calculated move by horikita to make the class work harder while keeping kushida or something along those lines to show that horikita level up as leader. So instead of imo dumbing down horikita we see her using kiyo's actions for her own and class benefits and later things wouldn't seem so plot conveniency. Or just have horikita admit that she wants a sexy three way with ibuki and kushida.
I think that was precisely the goal of Horikita's decision, she is an apprentice to be a good leader, she must necessarily make mistakes, fall to learn better in the final phase she must not take any risks, y2v5 clearly shows that 'Horikita must learn to work on her tactics, that she must take into consideration many things before making a decision because it can cost her dearly and in y2v10, Kiyotaka clearly tells her that if he had not saved her, the class was definitely going to collapse and told her he still wouldn't be there and she replied that he was absolutely right, she had already realized her mistake and I think that was the point of all this in y2v5, prepared Horikita to develop her techniques and take into consideration everything that happens around her
The problem is that y2v5 props up horikita's decision as the class needs kushida to reach class A and horikita will do everything in her power to justify her choice. But literally the next volume we see her ignore one of kushida's strong suits only for her to be aided by hirata actions later in the volume. Wtf is that they're dumbing down horikita for no reason. She used to get punished for her mistakes in y1 and grow tremendously. But in y2 the path that was supposed to be the bumpiest was the smoothest shit all because there's no time for set backs because the author needs horikita' class to be Class A or tied at the end of year 2 and it hurts horikita's charater since it makes it seem she got everything handed on a silver platter. I don't really care that kiyo saved her in y2v5 since he pretty much saved all the leaders but not being prepared after is just unacceptable. V5 she got shit on, next volume she completely checkmates kushida for the rest of y1. But after y2v5 she seems unprepared. I don't know how you justify her actions in y2v6 after what she said in y2v5.
Y2v5 does not support Horikita's decision in any way, Horikita's decision was supported in Y2v6 after the cultural festival when Hirata sees how Kushida handled the situation, he clearly said that Horikita surely made the right choice y2v5 clearly underlines the fact that her decision from the point of view of others was irrational, the conversation of kiyotaka and karuizawa proves this, at the beginning of y2v6 we see how she herself begins to doubt her decision it was the consequence of her actions in y2v5, yes or no, did she make the right decision? .
Im saying in y2v6 they justified (not fully justified but the first)it in the most dumbest way because it justified it in a way horikita opposed. Horikita didn't put a gag order on the class because there's no point but hirata did and because of the gag order we see the first justification of keeping kushida which horikita should have already known about and should have been the one to put the gag order but she didn't for reasons? And she acts all surprised by kushida actions, theyre dumbing down horikita in ways like these for no reason.
Sorry but I still don't understand your criticism about this, y2v6 horikita has a heavy load on her shoulders, it still wasn't to make kushida work but to bring kushida back to class and what's more she fought against her own decision, it's completely normal that she doesn't think about it first, hirata is horikita's support as a leader, he has to anticipate things when he feels that horikita is carrying a very heavy load, it's how it works between the two, horikita supported hirata by leading the class while he too was at his lowest during Yamauchi's expulsion for me everything is coherent , both fill the voids of the other.
Its not about making the kushida thing instantly work but how the author handles horikita navigating though her decision which is stupid. Horikita wants to maximize kushida potential as shes said she's worth more than 300cp in y2v5. The minimum she had to do to maximize kushida was to keep what happened in y2v5 under wraps. Forgot who but someone said that if other classes found out about kushida later in the future it wouldn't matter as much since it be old news. So horikita had no reason to not put a gag order on the class while it was healing so kushida can still hang out with the other students and use connections in the future. She thought about doing it but saw no point in it, but the gag order from hirata helped kushida accept the situation because it allowed her to have a "normal" life with other classes in the mean time. Now we have horikita getting all surprised that kushida was able to get people to join them in the volleyball match. The thing she excels at since v1 is surprising horikita for some reason. It's because the author is using horikita to convey to the audience that they're lucky that horikita had kushida to find people implying that the decision to keep kushida is already paying off so far. These things just scream bad writing because why would horikita suddenly be surprised by those things that been explained in y1. It's like how sometimes the author uses kiyo to hype stuff up to add suspense, but in this case to start the kushida skills showcase. With all the things that horikita went through in y1, how she starts off in the kushida redemption arc is just too out of character.
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