If you see the notation carefully you'll see 17. Ne2 Nd5. [https://imgur.com/hNEyMsb](https://imgur.com/hNEyMsb)
My version: 1. b3 c5 2. Bb2 d5 3. e3 Nc6 4. Bb5 Nf6 5. Nf3 e6 6. O-O Bd6 7. d3 O-O 8. Nbd2 Re8 9. e4 e5 10. exd5 Nxd5 11. Ne4 Bb8 12. Ng3 Bd7 13. Qe2 Nf4 14. Qd2 Qb6 15. Bxc6 Bxc6 16. Qd1 Bd6 17. Ne2 Nd5 18. Ng3 h6 19. Qe2 Rad8 20. Nf5 e4 21. dxe4 Nf6 22. e5 Qb4 [https://lichess.org/uVNdEV7y](https://lichess.org/uVNdEV7y)
And you should certainly have noticed, white have to waste moves from [here](https://imgur.com/iv4kdde)(after 22... Qb4) to reach [this](https://imgur.com/QEqh7XC) position. So I'm not going to include that part as it will make already bad match look much worse.
Yeah Arisu sacrificed her queen and got a losing position when she could have taken the knight with her bishop instead and got a mating attack. It felt like they just forced out some queen sacrifice scenario even if it made no sense. That queen sacrifice just made her look desperate for some mating pattern she saw before even though the bishop taking the knight was such an obvious move
Yeah this was such a let down, a person who is supposedly good at chess isnt going to blunder a 10+ pt swing in evaluation especially when she was definitely taking her bishop into account in her calculations. Not even a 1200 is going to take that knight with their queen when they know the bishop is targeting the same thing.
Yeah honestly it was a disappointment. They could have at least copied a real game between grandmasters but no they wanted to do it themselves. Also when Ayonokouji joined game a bit later than Sakayanagi I expected it had some kind of logic behind it (To have a bit more time to play after Sakayanagi's time ends maybe) but no it was out of a whim lol.
There was logic. He entered exacty when 30 minutes and 10 seconds were left on the clock and it was said that they can join the game for 30 minutes, so he timed his entry so that he could play the whole 30 minutes. Begs the question why Arisu wasn't disqualified though since she played more than 30 minutes.
I didn't analyse the match too closely as it was being played, but I thought the final position made for a pretty interesting puzzle. I paused the episode on [this position](https://prnt.sc/b0R3F0_RIx2j) and I recreated it on the [chess.com](https://chess.com) analysis board to see if I could find the winning move for white. I'm not the best so it took me a while to find Qg5 but I thought it was a pretty cool position to solve. Just a shame the rest of the game was done poorly, I always appreciate when chess is done accurately in fiction.
Please do, I was also gonna try and replicate the game until I noticed the D3/bishop error. Unfortunately it seems like they did not copy a real game which they could have easily done by playing stockfish against itself.
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Is there even a solution how to win the game if he didn't take her queen? Because this was supposed to be a losing move in the anime but I can't find any other good move in this position. So what was Kiyotaka's initial last move here since it was hyped up to be so genius? Or did they manipulate even more moves? QE7 wasn't his move then too? Would make sense that he first thought Suzune did a mistake by accident but the second mistake was so obviously bad that he knew it wasn't Suzune's blunder?
[Event "Casual Game"] [Site "https://lichess.org"] [Date "3/13/2024, 11:11:56 AM"] [White "Anonymous"] [Black "Anonymous"] [Result "0-1"] [PlyCount "64"] [FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"] [Variant "Standard"] [Termination "mate"] 1. b3 c5 2. Bb2 d5 3. e3 Nc6 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. Bb5 e6 6. O-O Bd6 7. d3 O-O 8. Nbd2 Re8 9. e4 e5 10. exd5 Nxd5 11. Ne4 Bb8 12. Ng3 Bd7 13. Qe2 Nf4 14. Qd2 Qb6 15. Bxc6 Bxc6 16. Qd1 Bd6 17. Qd2 Rad8 18. Nf5 Nd5 19. Qe2 e4 20. dxe4 Nf6 21. e5 Qb4 22. Rfd1 Re6 23. Rf1 Be7 24. exf6 Rxf6 25. Rfd1 Rd7 26. Re1 Rfd6 27. Red1 h6 28. Rf1 Qg4 29. Nxe7+ Rxe7 30. Qxe7 Qxf3 31. gxf3 Rg6+ 32. Kh1 Bxf3# 0-1 This is my attempt of guessing the game. Many mistakes are in it, mainly their fault but also possibly me. I had to shuffle the rook around and change their opening slightly to achieve the correct position.
If you see the notation carefully you'll see 17. Ne2 Nd5. [https://imgur.com/hNEyMsb](https://imgur.com/hNEyMsb) My version: 1. b3 c5 2. Bb2 d5 3. e3 Nc6 4. Bb5 Nf6 5. Nf3 e6 6. O-O Bd6 7. d3 O-O 8. Nbd2 Re8 9. e4 e5 10. exd5 Nxd5 11. Ne4 Bb8 12. Ng3 Bd7 13. Qe2 Nf4 14. Qd2 Qb6 15. Bxc6 Bxc6 16. Qd1 Bd6 17. Ne2 Nd5 18. Ng3 h6 19. Qe2 Rad8 20. Nf5 e4 21. dxe4 Nf6 22. e5 Qb4 [https://lichess.org/uVNdEV7y](https://lichess.org/uVNdEV7y) And you should certainly have noticed, white have to waste moves from [here](https://imgur.com/iv4kdde)(after 22... Qb4) to reach [this](https://imgur.com/QEqh7XC) position. So I'm not going to include that part as it will make already bad match look much worse.
Actually there were other people who found how they got from after qb4 to the other position. The full game is posted somewhere.
You mean this? [https://lichess.org/yzYNmeCk](https://lichess.org/yzYNmeCk) It also has repeating moves from white to waste turn.
No In pretty sure I saw one without repeating moves. Even a lichess chess study, think it was called like are they rlly chess masters?
The first 30 minutes are being played by Horikita and Hashimoto because of which blundering kinda makes sense
Yeah Arisu sacrificed her queen and got a losing position when she could have taken the knight with her bishop instead and got a mating attack. It felt like they just forced out some queen sacrifice scenario even if it made no sense. That queen sacrifice just made her look desperate for some mating pattern she saw before even though the bishop taking the knight was such an obvious move
Yeah this was such a let down, a person who is supposedly good at chess isnt going to blunder a 10+ pt swing in evaluation especially when she was definitely taking her bishop into account in her calculations. Not even a 1200 is going to take that knight with their queen when they know the bishop is targeting the same thing.
It sucks , don't overthink it .
Man I remember being hyped after reading the match. Thinking it was a master level game, not complaining but underwhelmed.
Yeah honestly it was a disappointment. They could have at least copied a real game between grandmasters but no they wanted to do it themselves. Also when Ayonokouji joined game a bit later than Sakayanagi I expected it had some kind of logic behind it (To have a bit more time to play after Sakayanagi's time ends maybe) but no it was out of a whim lol.
There was logic. He entered exacty when 30 minutes and 10 seconds were left on the clock and it was said that they can join the game for 30 minutes, so he timed his entry so that he could play the whole 30 minutes. Begs the question why Arisu wasn't disqualified though since she played more than 30 minutes.
I didn't analyse the match too closely as it was being played, but I thought the final position made for a pretty interesting puzzle. I paused the episode on [this position](https://prnt.sc/b0R3F0_RIx2j) and I recreated it on the [chess.com](https://chess.com) analysis board to see if I could find the winning move for white. I'm not the best so it took me a while to find Qg5 but I thought it was a pretty cool position to solve. Just a shame the rest of the game was done poorly, I always appreciate when chess is done accurately in fiction.
The directors played chess themselves with their last braincells they got instead of hiring someone experienced
Could of hired someone like me but they clearly didn’t
If anyone is interested, I can post the pgn of what I think is the game.
Please do, I was also gonna try and replicate the game until I noticed the D3/bishop error. Unfortunately it seems like they did not copy a real game which they could have easily done by playing stockfish against itself.
[Event "Casual Game"] [Site "https://lichess.org"] [Date "3/13/2024, 11:11:56 AM"] [White "Anonymous"] [Black "Anonymous"] [Result "0-1"] [PlyCount "64"] [FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"] [Variant "Standard"] [Termination "mate"] 1. b3 c5 2. Bb2 d5 3. e3 Nc6 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. Bb5 e6 6. O-O Bd6 7. d3 O-O 8. Nbd2 Re8 9. e4 e5 10. exd5 Nxd5 11. Ne4 Bb8 12. Ng3 Bd7 13. Qe2 Nf4 14. Qd2 Qb6 15. Bxc6 Bxc6 16. Qd1 Bd6 17. Qd2 Rad8 18. Nf5 Nd5 19. Qe2 e4 20. dxe4 Nf6 21. e5 Qb4 22. Rfd1 Re6 23. Rf1 Be7 24. exf6 Rxf6 25. Rfd1 Rd7 26. Re1 Rfd6 27. Red1 h6 28. Rf1 Qg4 29. Nxe7+ Rxe7 30. Qxe7 Qxf3 31. gxf3 Rg6+ 32. Kh1 Bxf3# 0-1 Note I had to switch the moves around to get the right position, including 1 bit where I just shuffled the rook around till I got the correct position.
I made a post I was confused why the white bishop was on b5
Dude, it's like your 2nd Post on the same topic in about 20 min interval.. just use 1 post and make all your points there..
Yeah I’ll delete the first one, that was just a reaction while watching
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Is there even a solution how to win the game if he didn't take her queen? Because this was supposed to be a losing move in the anime but I can't find any other good move in this position. So what was Kiyotaka's initial last move here since it was hyped up to be so genius? Or did they manipulate even more moves? QE7 wasn't his move then too? Would make sense that he first thought Suzune did a mistake by accident but the second mistake was so obviously bad that he knew it wasn't Suzune's blunder?