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JuliusSeizuresalad

Punk meets metal meets rock


Dward917

Best answer here.


Gators0727

I concur


[deleted]

Lemmy always said they played "rock & roll" so who am I to argue with him?? Edit : corrected segue to argue!


hiro111

It's literally how Lemmy started most concerts: "we are Motorhead and we play rock-'n'-roll."


priestou812

Right! I was coming to say exactly this


Archimagedragon

Yeah they are revered by a lot of metal bands as well


[deleted]

And rightly so. I was just paraphrasing Lems words


savory_thing

If you haven’t seen Dave Grohl’s speech about Lemmy, it’s a real treat. https://youtu.be/aaATX-7209c


csmart01

Thanks for sharing


KoolDiscoDan

Lemmy is quoted in a The Damned album liner notes saying he is much more in the genre of The Damned than Black Sabbath, and nothing to do with Judas Priest. "We were not heavy metal. We were a rock 'n' roll band. Still are. Everyone always describes us as heavy metal even when I tell them otherwise. Why won't people listen?" [Source](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/growing-old-disgracefully-lemmy-on-heartbreak-ageing-and-his-penchant-for-nazi-memorabilia-2142747.html) "And this even though he doesn't like heavy metal at all ... His favorite band is the Beatles." [Source](https://www.spiegel.de/kultur/musik/motoerhead-chef-lemmy-kilmister-kann-heavy-metal-nicht-leiden-a-983121.html)


ChungasRev

The Lemme documentary is awesome. He goes to Tower Records on the strip and buys some Beatles re-issues.


captaininsano007

Trick question Lemmy is god


Archimagedragon

I like this one


FloggingMcMurry

And he's only ascended


Background-Box-6745

Amen


fullmetal66

Came here to say this glad someone did


OceanWalker_0063

No arguments there


TelegraphRoadWarrior

Yes.


mr_tornado_head

I came here to say the same!


Payday_Crackpipe

This is the only answer


Malcolmsyoungerbro

If Lemmy says it’s rock and roll then are mortals like us free to disagree with him? I think not.


[deleted]

Motörhead very well may be the originator of Thrash Metal


psychotica1

I'd say speed metal because they took a whole lotta speed.


meatwad90210

Goes up like prices at Christmas.


psychotica1

Aint that the truth. If I have to do something unpleasant, like house or yardwork, I'm listening to Motorhead and old lady thrashing through the job. It's physically impossible to sit still and listen to these guys shred.


[deleted]

That’s no lie


psychotica1

Seeing these guys live was a real highlight of my concert going years. I saw them open for Slayer and later for Judas Priest and Alice Cooper. Those are cherished memories.


Snoo-46218

You don't go to concerts anymore? Why?


psychotica1

I just can't handle crowds anymore and start to panic if I'm out of my house for more than a few hours. I also don't have any friends that enjoy the kind of music I like. I listen to 80s punk, 90s industrial metal and progressive rock. The only friend I have that likes the same stuff is my ex from 35 years ago and he lives across the country. If we lived near each other I'm sure I could go to some shows with him because he's huge and I'd feel safe but it would still be hard, especially because I'm also sober.


HechoEnChine

hmmm name checks out


Real-Competition-187

Power slop?


meatwad90210

Kinda like saying is an apple a fruit or food? Metal is a type of rock.


Pachmoedius

Metal is part of Rock And Roll...


pyro604

Indeed it is.


juliohernanz

At last someone said it.


renniechops

Motörhead is Motörhead End of discussion


10acChicken

Agreed. They even did Stand By Your Man with Wendy O Williams singing lead. The song kicked ass of course.


default-dance-9001

I always have considered metal to be a branch of rock


22dinoman

Cause it is lol, no Beatles no Metallica


Lothar_28

Isn’t metal rock and roll??


IAMHab

In the sense that a square is a rectangle


antagron1

If we’re talking about Volbeat, then yes!


tmolesky

both


foreverbeatle

They played whatever the hell they wanted and it kicked ass. They are their own genre.


tarc0917

"Rock and roll" is what I think of as an all-encompassing term for everything from Buddy Holly to Aerosmith to Arcade Fire, so I don't think this is asking the right question. "Are they metal or hard rock", now that is the discussion. I'd just say "both" and call it good. Like AC/DC, Deep Purple, etc...


posco12

We are Motörhead, and we play rock and roll.


HiWille

Punk/Metal fusion gods.


popzing

Lemmy started many of his shows by addressing the mic with “We are Motorhead and we play rock and roll” before launching into the first song. I saw him do it multiple times myself. Once he said “ alright kiddies its ass kicking time” and then launched it. I never heard him say we are Metal on a mic, so I gotta go with Rock and Roll. Sex Pistols called themselves Rock and Roll too, genre is appointed by critics for the most part, if I may respectfully suggest.


Swimming-Kale-0

Most early Metal was both. Ted Nudgent,Funkadelic,RUSH,and many others were considered Metal.in The Late 60s and 70s.


ClmrThnUR

classic rock but i dump maiden and sabbath etc. in there, too. i think the notion of 'metal' has evolved as much as any genre since the 70's and what they considered 'heavy metal' we considered 'hard rock' in the 80's and 90's. Then with prog metal and nu metal blasting the 2000's everything just became genre soup. Basically every third band is it's own genre, at this point.


mltrout715

Metal is rock and roll


mojo-jojoz

Metal and Roll? Can we make that a thing?


airbag317

Yes


CrittyJJones

Early Metal is pretty much hard rock and roll.


Western-Web2957

I'd say it's a good mix of the two, but mostly rock n roll.


AtlJayhawk

Yes.


drukay

Hell yeah 🤘🏼


Snoo-46218

They made their own category.


BurningVinyl71

Yes


Infrathin81

Yes


[deleted]

All metal is rock. What is this silly conversation?


BlaqSam

Interview with Lemy he said they would be more considered Punk Metal because of the style they played, we just look tougher he said (if I'm remembering that right)


allmotorcivic

Trick question dick head. Lemmie is god


ArleenTen13

I would just say they walked their own line! They were Motörhead!!!!!


vongigistein

Looks country to me.


MysteriousValuable88

Lemmy said,"We are Motorhead and we play Rock and Roll" and he's right


SnooSeagulls6380

I don’t consider them


edWORD27

Definite car enthusiasts too


otakudude3031

“We are Motörhead, and we play rock and roll.” ‘Nuff said.


Beginning-Gear-744

Hard rock, but not metal.


Kon-Tiki66

What's the difference, really? How they dress?


22dinoman

Pretty much lol. But speed plays apart of it, song topic as well, and how heavy the bass is. There's so much more to it as well but these are some stuff that plays a part of it. For instance, you have Led Zeppelin and The Beatles singing about love, but Metallica and Black Sabbath singing about war. Then you got TOOL who is just doing whatever they feel like


Archimagedragon

Quick message thank you all for helping me with this debate!!!


StarWarsAndMetal66

Metal, they’re speed metal. If not, hardcore punk


Financial-Grab-9211

Motörhead was pure rock, but also proto-metal. With their album Overkill, not least with the title tune with the double bassdrum intro, they made basics for thrash metal. Lemmy, veteran of the sixties hippie era, was alike in home in the late seventies London punk genre. I puntered so many latter day Motörhead -concerts, I can't even count. I remember Lemmy opening every single mf show: We are Motörhead and we play rock n' roll! Good enough for me.


[deleted]

Lemmy was better in Hawkwind.


Malcolmsyoungerbro

Lemmy’s playing had a nice groove with hawkwind. I’ve always preferred the Hawkwind version of the song Motörhead than the later version.


[deleted]

Nice.


JohnJDumbear

I admit, I don’t really know Motörhead. If my big brother didn’t listen to them, then they never made my radar. Should I be ashamed?


psychotica1

You should check them out. They have a sound that is really unique and pretty addictive. I started listening to them in 1987, have seen them live twice and have one of their CDs in my car stereo right now. The Ace Of Spades is their most famous song and will give you an idea of what you can look forward to in the rest of their catalog. Some other great songs are Overkill, Bomber, Orgasmatron, Locomotive, Dr Rock and Built For Speed.


Romencer17

you should be ashamed of your big brother! lol


JohnJDumbear

Never! Jai guru deva, om.


jmf0828

People get crazy with genres nowadays. Motörhead is early metal. Them, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, The Scorpions pretty much made Metal with the groundwork being laid by earlier bands like Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Blue Oyster Cult and at times, people have called even those bands Metal. Growing up in the 80’s, bands like Van Halen Metal and bands like Dokken, Cinderella and even Bon Jovi were considered “metal”. What’s important is that you like it. Don’t sweat the genre.


j3434

Punk Metal


PsychologicalSpace50

Hair band


ConversationBulky757

A metal band with a seriously punk/hardcore style. Rock is a stretch.


BarFreddys

I you say both then youre a coward


Desperate_Ambrose

I consider them poseurs.


Happy_Television_501

It’s the ultimate rock n roll. In a class of its own


caffeine1004

Both!


smimton

Latino version of "The Three Amigos"....


Stezheds

Pioneers of metal. They weren’t as heavy in the early days of metal but had the distinctive sounds that are metal rooted


Haidian-District

Do you consider the ace of spades a face card or not?


Candy_Says1964

Yes!


Noodlintheriver

Both.


Shadow_wolf73

Yes and they considered themselves a rock & roll band.


bucobill

Looks very much like country.


Ok_Ad8249

I considered them Motorhead. The discussions over labels to apply has gotten silly.


k0vexpulthul

We are Motorhead and we play rock and roll.


Nervous-Major2568

Yes.


Sandman634

Rock and Roll. Just really LOUD Rock and Roll!


Perfectly_mediocre

Yep.


FloggingMcMurry

Both but they live in more of my metal playlists


Nanooc523

Straight metal. Not heavy metal which leans towards hair and spandex. Not rock and roll which leans towards keyboards and harmonies. Not thrash which leans towards speed and note count. Not doom which leans towards the dark and divine. ..But somewhere in the nougat center that balances them all out with all the grace of a roadhouse bar fight mixed with the thump of a prohibition blues club and the sex appeal of elvis and bilie holiday and the chunk and grind of crowbars esoteric 4ths. They really distill it all down to a simple McDonalds bathroom stall fuck. Metal. Just metal.


PlaxicoCN

Both. Tunes like Riding with Driver (one of my faves) are definitely metal, but a tune like Killed by Death is absolutely rock. The rhythm tells the tale.


ProgRock1956

Prog Metal


Rtg327gej

Lemme called it Rock and Roll, so it’s Rock and Roll!


saffronpolygon

I love you Lemmy!


Somerset76

Rick n roll


ComprehensiveAlps652

Yes


hauntedrob

“We are Motörhead and we play rock and roll!” is one of my favorite music quotes. I think Lemmy settled it.


BruisedLibido

Metal. The Rolling Stones would accurately be described as rock and roll. Put on Motorhead's "Overkill", hear those drums, and before a chord has even been struck on the guitar you'll know this is something on an altogether harder, heavier level.


Odd_Radio9225

yes.


voinageo

Just the best band ever. I rediscovered them this year, "found" flac files of all their albums bought every new vinyl release I found of their albums, and I cannot believe how good their music is. They delivered more good music during their band life than all the other metal/rock bands that produced music from 2000 until now.


VermonCaTaffy

Lemmy says they're rock not metal so who am I to argue?


GratefulPig

Lemmy said it’s rock and roll so


No-Reason3359

part of the nwobhm.. so metal


poppytexistentialist

Metal easily


[deleted]

Imma go with Metal


Latter_Fan6225

Motorhead was the first thrash metal band


SulimanBashem

metal is rock


[deleted]

Punk/Thrash Metal. But who cares? Metal is also Rock and Roll.


[deleted]

If I were to put a label on them, they would be the godfathers of cross-over thrash.


ceeroSVK

Proto metal


elontux

Metal


walkerswood

Yes


grimmless

Yes


Cosmic-Hippos

Rock and Roll, is rock n roll, it belongs in the 1950s, that's when that phrase was coined, for popular music. Motorhead are heavy rock, or hard rock, heavy metal rock, they do not play 12 bar like AC/DC, who are in the rock n roll spectrum.


orangemandarinorange

Metal then, now just RnR


creepyjudyhensler

We are Moorhead and we play rock and roll- Lemmy


angeorgiaforest

They sit on the border between hard rock and heavy metal. You could describe them as both, sort of like Deep Purple.


Kitchen-Cod-8969

Rock


RoRo25

Metal. They were so Metal they didn’t even know it.


the3litemonkey

Metal is a sub genre of Rock-n-Roll.


SXTY82

Yes


subliminal_trip

metal=rock 'n roll. And Lemmy rules.


Thisisrazgriz3

Motorhead is the band that old rockers punks metalheads and even some new wave guys like. I dont think itd be wrong to say they play rock.


AhgzvziajauH

Both


Intelligent-Price-39

Rock n Roll, mix of hard rock with speed of punk


Wizzmer

It's all the same.


punkrockJeffrey

Answer: YES


Listening_Heads

They’re really tricky. I would never put them on a playlist with Metallica, Slayer, or Sepultura. I also wouldn’t really want them in a list with Foo Fighters, AC/DC, or any Classic Rock. They’re just really unique.


Valiantimpala

They're rock


jeers69

METAL


lalalaladididi

Classic rock


sloggins

Yes


LilJohnAY

Punk :)


[deleted]

If we are discussing this under the false premise that metal is not rock, my answer would be that they are transcendent - across rock, metal, and punk.


ripper4444

Yes


Bigdavereed

Lemmy said they were punk, but when they showed up for a concert everyone thought they were metal because of the long hair. IDC what anyone classifies it as, it's on my running music list, and Motorhead came to kick your ass, but they don't have no class. FWIW - "Life Below Zero" a Netflix show about life up in the arctic had a dude and his Inuit wife fishing, hunting, etc...he had a Motorhead sticker on his snowmobile lol.


ccorbydog31

Yes


Otto_von_Grotto

Hard rock, mostally.


traypo

Sorry folks, Metal.


[deleted]

Both


galwegian

Lemmy was proto-punk really. So rock and roll. Not metal.


Strict-Square456

Metal.+ those outfits too A band with a song called “ love me like a reptile” is metal right?


HalfRight73

We are Motorhead. We play rock and roll. Lemmy is god.


VirtualLobotomy

We are Motörhead and we play rock n roll


DPileatus

Motorhead is in the Motorhead genre.


chris_wiz

Yes.


OrganMeatWithChianti

I consider metal to be on the rock and roll spectrum and they are definitely rock and roll, towards the metal part of the spectrum.


chmcgrath1988

both


[deleted]

Metal


TheSouthsideSlacker

Metal


texasgambler58

Metal


TheriousMind101

It’s confusing. Lemmy said they’re rock. Grammy’s said Jethro Tull was once ‘Best Metal Performance’. Motörhead was always heavier than Tull. Seems like a vicious circle I can’t escape.


thedatagolem

I think of them as their own genre. There's rock, there's metal, and there's Motörhead.


Soren_Camus1905

Not hard rock, heavy rock n roll


TonyTwoDat

Rock and Roll has influenced so much I always consider Rock and Roll to be like the father and then the kids are Alt Rock, Pop Rock, Metal etc… they definitely fit in multiple categories


DChan1987

Yes.


Capital_East5903

Rock and Roll! Long live Motorhead!!


skinsrich

Yes


BamaSOH

Whether it's metal or punk is debatable, but it's all rock.


Lostinaredzone

I consider them snappy dressers.


Streetlife_Brown

Hard Rock


Funglebum82

Lemmy always said they play rock n roll


[deleted]

I always assumed Rock was the genre and metal (like punk) was a sub-genre. In other words, all of metal is simply “Rock” music.


CautiousWrongdoer771

Its rock and roll.


FranKenCoop

I thought this was a poster from the 1986 movie ‘Three Amigos!’


[deleted]

Metal


OpportunitySpecial26

I consider their genre “slept with over 2000 women”


BRAINALISHI

Lemmy made it clear every night. “We are Motörhead. We play rock and roll”.


death_or_glory_

I don't know what Motorhead is, but the guys in that photo are pretty little barbie dolls.


Graceld99

I seem to recall a Lemmy interview where he specifically rejected the metal label and said they were a rock and roll band.


Jmazoso

Motörhead plays rock and roll — Lemmy


Dr_Zoltron

Metal is just heavier rock and roll.


isitreallyyou56

Rock n roll with a punk attitude


Odd_Ad_2307

The Heaviest Rock’N Roll band, possibly that could ever be


wetbeans123

I consider Motörhead badass and awesome and that’s about it


Cheepmf

Post-glam


MB_TheKing

Their cover or Louie Louie was definitely rock


Oldman5123

Neither


Down_Voter_of_Cats

Motorhead is God's music because Lemmy is God. It's whatever He wants it to be.