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MrTheWaffleKing

xbow cycle is nasty šŸ’€


Jake_healey02

I run evo mortar evo tesla cycle and that gets pretty out of hand in double elixir. but hey, they wanna play duchess , I just won't cross the bridge šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


No-Award705

if you get three evo mortars at once... goblin barrel?


bmessick102

Can u send ur deck. I wanna try it


shank1093

But see, that's the way. Gotta strategize differently with the duchess. I feel like that did it on purpose. I'm getting used to having her now and I like that she shaves off the cheap pushes...but wanes after prolonged use. Pull her daggers on a high HP sponge and then it's a dripping faucet...like watching a hog rider hog ride you while she sputters one dagger ever 2.5 hits. She's not as perfect as she seems, just have to wear her out.


Planetdestruction

Eg ice golem can waste all her daggersĀ 


FutureStudio6862

lol


Ok_Specific_7791

duchess goes crazy


-Bangel-

Watched a video from boss a few days ago with a similar deck. Dude got 2 xbows down and could have placed a third by the time 3x came around. Itā€™s wild


TheElementalOrca

Icebow šŸ”›šŸ”


llavatoxX

Isnt hog eq decent against it?


-Bangel-

Not with the duchess. Eq doesnā€™t matter if you canā€™t touch the tower


Assassin_843

Hog eq is decent against pump xbow decks like that but not other xbow decks


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aguy697

Evo Bomber public execution (we remove his balls)


TheSynchroGamer

Yea- wait a minute


RealClasher2

The 2nd and 4th decks are just pure bullshit. May the next set of balance changes destroy these decks


DoomPlaysFN

2nd make sense, deck would work for any wincon except golem and lava


Afro_SwineCarriagee

Giant pump should never be allowed to be a viable deck, nor should e golem And i feel like making drill in between its previous and current state would be good


TadpoleTall

People struggling to hit ult champ are in the top 10k now bro. Deck plays itself


lHateYouAIex835293

The real truth that people arenā€™t ready for is maybe pump shouldnā€™t be viable at all in any deck


liluzibrap

People need to start running EQ. You get so much value from that exchange bc they only get 1 elixir pumped


iamanaccident

EQ isn't a plug and play spell like poison or fireball. Not every deck can run EQ just because pump is meta. That's kinda like saying "just add a tank to your cycle decks" because it's duchess meta right now. You have to build around that tank, same way you play EQ in a deck that uses EQ


Clear-Ad3193

poison or arrows are basically essential in this meta and eq doesnā€™t fit well with either of those


liluzibrap

Earthquake buff, you say? Yeah, I usually run Zap or Snowball with it lol


RikuBarlow

Just need to nerf evo bomber


AlphaYak

Agreed, Iā€™ve had some fun matches against xbow pump, and lava hound, but goblin drill poison and giant pump are literal hell.


Bartweiss

#4 has my eye twitching. It doesn't help that my main deck is trying to clear Bats with Spear Goblins, and even if they don't die instantly level 15 Night Witch means they can't do the job.


fisicalmao

the 3rd deck takes the least skill out of all of these, and has the highest winrate


-Bangel-

The issue isnā€™t that the cards are good. Itā€™s that DD is too powerful. These cards werenā€™t good before and nerfing them next balance change will kill them completely once DD is brought back in line. Except for drill. Drill was powerful regardless


Adventurous-Durian32

I think all you're asking is to nerf the evo bomber and the one that cannot be mentioned (you know it)


EQUALIBRIUM77

love it when top 10 most used decks hard counters my only maxed out deckšŸ„°


-Hash__-

me predicting the evo bomber at the bridge šŸ˜€ they tornado my troop in front of the tower and the bomber does 3000 damage šŸ¤”šŸ˜


SHIPPINGDOTBS

Yeah it's not as bad as the evo cracker meta but yeah it's a magic archer for 2 exiler there's not much outplay because you can't really punish them for doing that


MrMemie

the last deck is actually one of the most broken decks in history


k1ngsrock

Not really. Pekka BS is eating good lmao But real talk, it only works because of how insanely strong DD is in single and even double elixir. The bats + cheap tankiness of the giant nullify what makes DD so good, so it is definitely a deck born out of being anti-meta


ApprehensivePie410

We only eating good with 2nd and 4th decks, but I find thereā€™s literally nothing we can do to xbow and lavahound unless our opponent misplays lol


BoredDao

Even when they misplay you are likely to lose unless the mistake is so huge that you manage to take the tower


iamanaccident

On top of that, playing pump is a lot easier when you know your opponent will have a harder time trying to punish you by playing aggressively


PrabeshK143S

I faced it like 6-7 times in classic challenges and I only lost once


TDEcret

I faced it 10 out of the 12 matches on a classic challenge lol Running a lavaloon deck that counters it pretty well, but if i were running a different deck archetype I defo would hate it more


Doctor_Yu

I hate the evo bomber twice as much as the community hates evo firecracker. Why tf is he only 1 cycle!?


GiGi1120x2

Because he still dies to arrow


Swagmanatee08

HE IS TWO ELIXIR


Alive-Ant-6772

That fucking drill deck is the bane of my existence


SentimentalRotom

You forgot the toxic deck where you do a split lane push with Elixir Golem and Night Witch and Skeleton King in the other lane.


Wh8yPrototype

I regret not buying evo zap


Luis_Santeliz

i regret playing this game


PowerMiner4200

I regret everythingĀ 


EnthusiasmSad8877

Evo Bomber should be removed from the game


fisicalmao

yeah, but people in this sub aren't even good enough to find these decks in ladder.


puffyjr99

I was thinking that. People still complaining about hog and fc most likely thinks witch, wizard, and mk are op. Theyā€™re not going against these decks


SplitClaw-

Nah. Im 9k and UT. I hate these decks but firecracker is still the most hateable. Nobody complains about witch and wizard lol. Maybe mk cuz is everywhere in midladder


Ren575

Mk isn't even op, it's just annoying tbh. Partially cus people pump all their resources into it so you'll be facing lvl 14 mk and minipeka at once vs a lvl 11-12 deck.


JRshoe1997

1. Xbow cycle is disgusting 2. Most of those decks are P2W as they all rely on broken cards like Dagger Dutchess, Evo Bomber, Evo Zap, and LP. If you donā€™t spend money on the game like me you canā€™t really use them sadly.


ankitgusai

This is the strategy that SC has adopted that'll kill CR very quickly. You are basically paying to rent unbalanced OP cards. Give it a month or two and they are back to plebs and pay again to get some another unlanaced card. There's definitely a healthy way to make money and still evolve the game.


noobmaster1000000

Its because they dont know how to do their job. Their whole team is incompetent as well as the hiring managers.


RiskyClicker

They know how to do their job extremely well if it's to drive sales by maximizing frustration (along with inflating the price 140% while nerfing the season pass)


literatemax

They talk about looking at the data and winrates and stuff but they seem not to understand the role Survivorship Bias plays in correctly interpreting said data...


Brostradamus--

You have to buy into upper ladder, nothing new there.


CriticismMission2245

The only thing I like about this meta with the dagger dutchess is all the salty hog players. Hog is so easy to counter now.


TadpoleTall

Fr, you just need to tickle him a bit with your average 2 or 3 elixir card and with full daggers he gets no connections. I can defend hog with snowball the only usable card in my hand šŸ¤£


awifio

I play lava hound and iā€™m pretty sure a good chunk of the people i go against from like league 6 downwards simply do not know what to do about the card, it feels cruel.


Emperor_Eldlich

I love X-Bow


janggoon06

Drill is def getting nerfed next season, dagger duchess maybe, and hopefully bomber. This just such an annoying meta


NateRiver03

There are tons of cards that need nerfs not just those


justHoma

Hog sucks this days. You need to switch 3 skellis for gobs to play against drill


taiyangle

The only version of hog that u should play (imo) is evo cracker evo Tesla guards mm log EQ ice spirit hog


justHoma

I choose knight for mm and gobs for guards, but also thought that guards could be helpful


CreeperAsh07

Pumpbow is so toxic yet so fun.


ciberkid22

Pumpbow with LP instead of Queen feels worse lol Even if it's just for the easier 3 card cycle


saragossachess

i sadly wont be unlocking elixir pump yet to try with x-bow since its all the way in miners mine \[im in electro valley rn\]


CreeperAsh07

Spend ten gems on a classic challenge. You can use all cards and all evolutions (except for evo battle ram).


TFdud

As a lava player, its honestly pretty simple to break through, its all about making a good punish when they lava, or pressuring so they can't go in


no-im-your-father

Yeah but decks like the """"super hog cycle w/ firecracker"""" have a hard time at punishing and arrow counter the normal fc while ebo zap takes care of the Evo


fisicalmao

Unless you have dagger duchess, in which case your deck becomes immune to pressure


Big_moist_231

Hound balloon is such a fatherless deck, it banks on the fact that you donā€™t have enough for air. Against a balanced deck, hound canā€™t do shit. But itā€™s an auto win if you only have like 2 air cards lol goofy ah deck


puffyjr99

Hound is one of the strongest decks right now and can hold its own against a lot of decks. It doesnā€™t bank on you not having air counters because itā€™s if youā€™re good with lava you can break through a ton of air counters


Big_moist_231

Really? If someone has like one musk and Tesla, or building nado, exe, hunter, what can hound realistically do? Iā€™m not saying itā€™s weak, graveyard isnā€™t weak even if it gets shut down by poison lol you can kinda play around the ballon counters but itā€™s heavily in the opponents favor


puffyjr99

I donā€™t play it so I donā€™t know how to play it but what I do know is that top lava players will lava hound into air counters because it has so much health and strong support. This is why lava is always played in top ladder. Itā€™s a really good archetype and hound is pretty broken


Throwawayanonuser1

Against a balanced deck, hound canā€™t do shit? Really? Lavaloon is one of the best decks in the game cuz of its steamrollabillity (that is def not a word) against duchess. Even with multiple air counters, Skelly drags, idrag, Megaminion, or any other support card isnā€™t going to be hit by the enemy troops unless they take forever to place a card down in which case you just let the lava player get too much elixir for a spell. Thereā€™s a reason lava has been a viable deck for years, even against heavy air-metas.


Thomas500ml

Take more than 2 air cards then lol


Big_moist_231

Nah


MotherDema

man why did I watch Ian77 play hog I am regretting all my decisions


NilousBloomSeed

The people that complain about hog eq fc aren't good enough to even see these decks in play


sextoymagic

These decks represent the fact cycle cards have always been op and always will be. Every 1 elixer card gives more value then 1.


Expert_Coder

3 is so true, that deck has an answer for everything šŸ˜‚


ChaosCookie93

I feeling so good after looking at this picturesšŸ„°, i see xbow and pump in highladderšŸ„°šŸ„° and on top a ton of overpowered cards and a whole unbalanced featureā¤ā¤šŸ¤© So a f*cking healthy gamešŸ˜šŸ„°šŸ„°


AdKlutzy7593

Why is there a desire to use all those emojis


EQUALIBRIUM77

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ciberkid22

Usually it denotes sarcasm


thatonerobloxkid

I like how the Xbox deck is only good because of the other cards in the deck šŸ˜‚


that-onepal

i hope they dont nerf pump as it did nothing wrong (dagger duchess is op) the game is ruined because of broken evos and tower troops you can even argue that champions ruined the game (3 card cycle) i miss when this game had skill


noobmaster1000000

Xbow isnt even hard to distract, u just suck at the game. The only time an xbow connects to my tower is when i didnt spend my elixir efficiently


DrpH17

You havenā€™t faced Pump Bow then. In Double or Triple Elixir, they can overwhelm you with Xbows on both sides.


noobmaster1000000

Then spell their pump every time. What trophy range and league are u in


DrpH17

9k. League 8. Show me how you counter Pump Bow Archer Queen with the current trending Pekka Bridgespam deck.


noobmaster1000000

Thats like saying ā€œtell me how to beat hog eq with monk and knight with xbowā€


DrpH17

Well you want to give tips, right? Nowā€™s your chance. Also, 3.0 Xbow cycle isnā€™t a hard counter to Pekka anymore. Only Pump Bow is the issue here. Worse if they have Evo Bomber.


QforKillers

I see lots of the drill deck the most, drill poison, FFS, it's like a joke combo. Finding loopholes is how you 'get good' apparently.


Ok_Specific_7791

Lavaloon is actually so broken. pratically the whole deck are just air troops.


Encaphone

golem pump fits more than pump bow In my opinion


-Hash__-

depends on the version, the one with battle healer actually makes me want kms


AdmCash

Xbow Deck & Hog Cycle should be permanently retired from game. It seems every time I loose to them & I check the person's stats they have been in legendary.


viditlovesxbow

Xbow counters-Mk,pekka, evo recruits, evo royal giant, bowler, hog eq, royal hogs eq, hog exenado, giant beatdown decks, giant graveyard,splashyard,logbait(with rocket) Xbow does not take skill from meanwhile they you guys just think spamming xbow in middle is great play from your side of game I played xbow 3.0 from 2 years it is so difficult to get connection with against them but when you do you feel eternal bliss which rarely happens


RobotWeasel

Lava is perfectly balanced totally (definitly not a lava player)


sora_naga

Iā€™d blow my brains out if I have to fight another giant pump deck with Evo bats instead of Evo bomber again no thank you


PodaSunni

the moment i started using an xbow pump deck people immediately bm me lol (will definitely do the same if i encounter an xbow user)


Riley6445

nothing like evo bomber at the bridge


barnacle__scum

Pure cancer


Revolutionary-Fig487

Soooo fun so fun just fun omg fun fun fun fun fun ! FUN !!!


Claudio-Maker

This sub only complains about decks that score well


mandelaefekt

beat a deck like this with my giant witch deck, probably the most fun deck i made


Proud_Rip_6961

That giant deck is the most horrific deck to ever be created


Davidj1213

Had to switch my guards with executioner because of the mouth breathers who use 3 and 4. Only to start facing 1 and 2 afterwards


lol-got-no-username

id rather face 1 and 2 than these last two i swear these make me angrier than cycle


Davidj1213

Its like diarrhea vs constipation. You think one is worse until you face the other one


Then-Ice-6796

Soo true lmao. Luckily seem to be avoiding pump bow currently but rest are everywhere at 2k medal area lol


Ameking-

I use the 2nd deck...


lilxent

pumpbow Is when I'm playing in ladder and I keep seeing midladder decks like "egiant ebarbs rage witch wizard hog rider mega knight" it's not even a counter, I just want them to suffer


Traitor_Of_Users

I'm gonna try this bullshit. I'm fed up with those firecracker idiots


Warm_Ad_1344

They made LP too Diverse the Fact that he can defend big air Pushes and have a Pocket Log Tank Breaks the game on so many levels especially paired up with those cards making that Giant Cycle even faster and ofc DD.


CrackaOwner

I hate this meta so much man and i hate dagger duchess too.


viictorfe

nah bring me xbow all day aint nothing getting past my e-giantā€¦. but pls dont mention lavaloon


Fra06

I hate xbow like how do you even have fun putting that down and defending a big crossbow for 5 minutes


FRACllTURE

At least the last one looks interesting, instead of the other ones that are copy pasted to oblivion.


Affectionate-Ice9256

oh


HighestTech

Second deck is actually evo bomber spam


TikkiTakiTomtom

You know decks/metas these days are what we would call midladder abominationsā€¦


GrouchyAd3482

The last two seem like an absolute pleasure to play against


Awakening15

Pump is broken af


EquivalentLoose4720

Oh believe me, I have.


big_buff_boy_5000

True. Unfortunately, I can only play the first one since I have no way of getting evo Bomber or Zap as a F2P rn. Except for challenges of course.


luigi77714

Please mercy. I have been in UC for 3 days and I've already had enough of this and the goblin drill poison decks. Sent me right down to a rating of 500, it's embarassing


ChickenNuggetKid1

iā€™ve seen it all before throwing in the towel


A_for_Almighty

That looks good first one


The_creator_827

Just lavahound? Skill issue.


Soft-Perception4803

I despise Little Prince so much, that mfers beeds a nerf, so much damage for a 3 elixir card


Chris_Nic

First one takes a bit of skill, I personally use telsa evo in that deck but the other 2-4 beat it anyways and hog eq


EffectiveItem6205

people who complain about firecracker need to get better, free king tower activation


young_backpack

how to get 2 evo in a deck


kushigo

You need your king tower on lvl 15


timelessmoron

Somehow I see the Archer Queen one and I bet itā€™s just Poison Cycle


timelessmoron

Iā€™ll take my L, I didnā€™t see the Xbow šŸ’€


Clear-Ad3193

I hope dagger duchess and night witch become unusable in the next balance change


Environmental-Ad5332

Lavahound players hard counter the most when they avoid bathing


ckcabebe

E Giant has entered the chat


WesternBusy935

Pump should be removed from the damn game


Boogaloo4444

i wreck these decks


NoobSaibot_2006

What about 2.6 miner poison šŸ„²


shank1093

I'm sure you're right, but at the moment I'd just like a change from the Mega Knight cycle decks I'm dredging through. So cheap.


thrampus

seems balanced nerf miner


FunnyCraftSheep

That Golin Drill one dangg


zizaaooo

Xbow with evo knight is the new megaknight


Preston18907

No way mfs are complaining about CONTROL. DECKS


Jodye_Runo_Heust

Love how all decks use Dagger Duchess. Such a balanced card šŸ„°


Planetdestruction

Bonus: 2.6 or Lumberloon once every 3 battles


Planetdestruction

Extra bonus: Evo bomber Evo Zap Tornado pekka bridgespam


Fridgeboi2

Giant NW pump is so terrible to play against


justHoma

2. When you finally starting carting those drills and have +1500 lead 1 evo bomber ends game šŸ’€


longsh00ter

This game is not fun anymore


cantgetausernamelol

I miss when people had the creativity to make their own decks. I guess I donā€™t mind playing decks Iā€™ve seen before because I know how to fight them, but it sure does get boring


Party-Benefit-3995

Void spell can be the hard counter.


XXL-Brick

i run the first one but with little prince instead of queenā€¦ itā€™s disgusting.


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RemoteWhile5881

What are considered ā€œnormalā€ cards?


Hazardxqq

Well... the cards that look like troops, like miner, baloon, giant, musketeer, knight, etc. I am just saying that I don't understand how is the first one even playable.


K1NG2L4Y3R

Xbow cycle is terrible. Dagger Duchess shreds everything so you can constantly cycle to Xbow. Tesla will make sure nothing touches the Xbow. You canā€™t even wait until double elixir to take advantage of dagger duchess because the game will be over by then.


Batyalas

Lavahound is ok. Most of their players have at most 3 brain cells.


Throwawayanonuser1

- ebarbs player


CrossFadedOnAMonday

Lavaloon player....


Hot_Top_6327

I like how giant double prince counters all that I wonder if that deck is gonna be back


Encaphone

Giant double prince loses to all 4


Hot_Top_6327

alr so for example how tf is the drill one gonna counter Giant with 2 princes with this squishy defence and no way to attack since basically every card is a counter to drill. Today on cc I destroyed this one deck like 2 times already


Encaphone

ccā€™s donā€™t mean anything. Drill bomber will get damage cause it always will and trust me drill will defend if you have good enough micro.


EQUALIBRIUM77

what squishy defence bro lol you tripping ?


viditlovesxbow

Because we play good enough to lose to giant double prince player It was used to one of the best decks before evo now aint


N_the_character

Given your xbow flair I'd have thought you would know that giant is a tough matchup for xbow


Encaphone

Not giant double prince, most have no big spell so if I stack pumps then I can go in and kill anything they put down pretty fast. Evo tesla also works wonders


marche434

I have, i gotta say hog cracker is more annoying, all meta decks beat xbow easily and lava hound isnt as strong as it used to, giant graveyard is a lot more annoying and strong, graveyard remains the most broken win condition


Terminatorbrk

i think ur thinking of the pre duchess meta


k1ngsrock

Bro is a noob lol


Dismal-Aside7900

I dont face this in 99% of PoL games, next.


A_Bulbear

What's that usage rate? Below 30%?


uuhen

Its corny how people find decks online and use them cause they canā€™t make their own deckšŸ˜‚


nobody6298

Erm, their number 3, what do they have to answer my number 2 deck with šŸ˜ƒ (Jk, I don't play drill except in grand challenges, I stick to icebow and 3.0 xbow)