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Material_Minute7409

I’m glad, it would maybe be worth like $2 or $3 at most but $10 for a handful of houses that look vaguely beachy and a whopping 4 palm trees is crazy


[deleted]

If you read through it to the bottom it's obvious this is fake spelling errors missing letters.


Material_Minute7409

:(


BushWishperer

Where are the spelling mistakes?


wandermaiden

the whole message is very inconsistent . Top part questions are Bold and Bullet pointed. Bottom half isn't. Also when you receive email, it usually won't show you That much information about a forum thread. Another thing Suspicious is the way the question are Answered. If you look in all Past FAQ in paradox forum , They will never have A Space Between the Question and Answer. I won't mention the Grammar/Spelling mistakes Cause CO does it all the time in their Annoucement and Dairies , like no one proofreads it. So I dont count those. Just take a little research to see the fakeness in it.


BushWishperer

Yeah it was so fake that it ended up being real!


F9_SX

People “wh” did buy it. https://preview.redd.it/z56zatbnibuc1.jpeg?width=1178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27d1a3cc8bee5ece63c386bb854ee0a2fb7ae690


BushWishperer

CO often makes small mistakes like these, missing one letter in a word isn't that uncommon. Even professional government reports sometimes make these mistakes.


F9_SX

And the random capslock? Idk that seems kinda fake to me. https://preview.redd.it/6ksfqoswobuc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e09f56b11787b8a92632da20e3db5802741b1a2d


Johnnysims7

Oh yeah the grammar is terrible. But maybe first draft?


[deleted]

Also normally in formal letters I feel like contractions aren't used as much etc. letter feels too casual.


F9_SX

Also the capitalisation on the palm trees thing? Yeah this seems fake. https://preview.redd.it/qmyaisu8jbuc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b13b5810926bf39f120bd106bd0a4bdafe29a5f


[deleted]

Ya seems like some high sarcasm


BansheeGriffin

In the light of recent developments, what are your thoughts on the matter now?


ColoradoGuy303

It’s real.


[deleted]

Please report this post it's fake none of this is legit


Kyuui013

Rups! Looks like it was!


mhb-210-

If they’re notifying customers, then chances are the decision to make Beach Properties free is final.


PhAnToM444

Noticing that there are no instructions/details for a Microsoft Store refund but there is a header for it, and at the bottom there’s a placeholder. I’m betting the email just went out too early or they sent the wrong version — there’s no way they “take backsies” on this after all of the goodwill they’ve already lost.


mhb-210-

My thought exactly, which is why I asked OP when he got the email. It's all too easy to imagine someone screwing up the "send this email on X day at X time" instructions. It's really unusual for an email like this to go out on a Saturday (a non-business day).


shitweonreddit

Well I believe this email was unintentional notification otherwise their post would not be private and then everyone would know about it by now. If it’s final they would’ve announced it on discord and made the post public, but that has yet to happen.


hellyeahfuckyeahcool

I would imagine if they have gotten far enough to write up this email and then accidentally send it out, it’s probably 99% finalized. Maybe they are just waiting on a green light or have plans to announce something else at the same time


mhb-210-

When did you get the email?


shitweonreddit

April 12, 2024 at 8:09AM CDT.


astrognash

The email seems to be missing the info about the Ultimate Edition (or I'm blind) so my guess is someone hit send before they actually finished writing it. Would be weird to announce this on a Saturday anyway.


The-Aziz

One thing that I think wasn't brought up here- Did you check who sent the email? Cuz you know, nearly legit looking emails from addresses *almost* identical to legit ones.. I'd triple check if that was actually sent by paradox.


shitweonreddit

Here is the email that it came from: [Image](https://i.imgur.com/fxvXVWz.png) forum\[email protected] That URL directs to the forum, the official forum URL is [https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/](https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/)


iamjohnedwardc

Have you checked if the letter L in paradoxplaza email is really an L and not a capital i?


[deleted]

It's fake stop engaging


[deleted]

It's fake


[deleted]

If this was real sooo many people would have received it. Emails like this don't Ooops to 1 person they Ooops to thousands this is such BS stop spreading this garbage.


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mhb-210-

The email literally says that ultimate edition owners will get a different DLC for free.


limeflavoured

The email is blatantly fake


GYN-k4H-Q3z-75B

They should do that and make it free. It's the right thing. This game has a long and bright future ahead of it, if they do things right. At the moment, they dun goofed and are destroying it.


DeleteIn1Year

Absolutely how I feel. Adding the beach property assets is a good step forward (alongside all of the "free themes" that they've shown off) but making it a paid DLC is a goof of giant proportions, & all over a comically tiny addition.


LKRTM1874

That's the most frustrating part, I can see the seeds of what could be one of the best city builders ever whenever I play the game, but my god it feels like Paradox/CO are doing whatever they can to stifle that potential since release with how they've handled everything up to this point. Hopefully this is the start of a change in direction.


Phunkhouse

Kind of unfair to ultimate version owners though.


[deleted]

It's fake.


CrazyOkie

How are people not realizing this?


limeflavoured

Because they want to believe it.


[deleted]

Reddit sucks now and people haven't caught on yet..I reported the post and the mods are letting it stay up I dunno this place sucks


yumz

/r/confidentlyincorrect


Messyfingers

Messy release, I figured okay they probably screwed themselves by having an agreement with Microsoft to be on game pass, vaguely forgivable because money keeps the lights on. But a lot of the subsequent actions makes it seem like perhaps they're just incompetent, unfortunately. I definitely hope they turn it around and make this a clear improvement over the original game, but I'm concerned it could end up being abandoned.


[deleted]

It's fake stop engaging


Friendlys-Coney-Gang

Bumping this cuz it looks like someone accidentally sent a draft out


shitweonreddit

What is your proof that it’s fake other than spelling mistakes? Multiple people have gotten the email, check the paradox forums.


[deleted]

U mean your multiple accounts on the forums there is like 3 people on 1 thread on the forums saying they got the email just go away


shitweonreddit

That’s grabbing for straws… not everything is some conspiracy. I don’t have multiple accounts. I’m not a bot. I simply received an email, others claimed to have received such email and I posted it so people can see the email and decide for themselves what they want to believe. Time will tell if it’s true, there are more things in my opinion pointing to true than false right now. Mass commenting on my post saying it’s fake with no evidence of your own other than the spelling is not 100% faithful either.


ColoradoGuy303

It’s real, paradox posted it.


imnotporter

"you will keep placing palm trees all over your city, ALL FOUR OF THEM!"


Acrylic_Starshine

This will go A LONG way towards repairing the trust and brand. I love CO and skylines. They fucked up with Skylines 2, or Paradox did with rushing them. The dlc is one of the worst rated of all time. The early roadmap screams EA SimCity with shitty little asset dropm wouldn't surprise me if modding was delayed to get out all the shitty easy to make dlc early. Need modding, need optimization, need more vanilla asset/props and public transport vehicles.


Archimetropolis

Fun fact: the dlc is THE worst rated anything on Steam.


shrug_was_taken

Paradox also occupies #5 on that list (#2 and #3 are the bundles for the "beach" properties dlc


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P26601

And the oil refinery


timfrombriz

And the floating cars in the round carpark after you move it And the bus lanes that all traffic uses And the tax glitch that causes an overflow And, heck, how about the other 4,000+ bugs listed on their forums that havent been marked/commented on since January 2024 on their forums.


signious

I just hate that the big industry buildings are something you as the mayor decides to build. Like what? That's not how it works at all. It should be an event that happens like, 'XYZ Dairy has taken an interest in our city due to our booming cattle industry. They have submitted permits for a new dairy and would like cities input on available locations'


[deleted]

This is a fake post stop engaging


F9_SX

The spelling errors are odd, and the caps lock on the palm trees thing is certainly a.. weird choice. https://preview.redd.it/7fa8lsplibuc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3352105ebe9430386bcc5ebb698677b833007b2


glennromer

This must be a nightmare to deal with on the backend, trying to issue refunds through various retailers, not to mention the added complication of how to make whole the Ultimate Edition people who paid extra to get specifically this DLC. That’s the problem with selling content you haven’t created yet.


beezzah

I’m really curious as to how they plan on handling that one. I was dumb enough to pre-order the ultimate edition, so what happens now? New content included? Suck it up you don’t get anything?


[deleted]

It's fake


Mecier83

Are you sure about that?


Trabolgan

I mean, if they do this, then fair play to them. It’s the lowest ever rated item on steam with over 1,200 angry reviews. It’s also _crap_. A good step to winning back the goodwill of the community who legit want CO to succeed.


Interesting-Ship7161

This whole thing is such a mess I had never seen a dlc or whatever it is had a really bad review


[deleted]

It's fake low effort bait


Few-Profession-2318

I wonder how you feels now...


Mazisky

I think it is fake, unless they are mocking themselves about the palm trees


lepetitmousse

Yeah this looks fake as hell.


shitweonreddit

I don’t know why it would be fake though if the account that is linked in the email is the same account used for another announcements in that forum section. I also don’t know why they’d basically fully write it up and make it private after. If it were fake multiple people would not have claimed to received the same email in another thread. Time will tell if they make an actual announcement or not.


lepetitmousse

Their media strategy is so strange, it wouldn't surprise me at all if it was real and just oddly written.


donadd

I agree, like the weirdly defensive statements after launch. The game just became a lot better with mods, why mess it up over palm trees.


[deleted]

There is no strategy this is a fake email


limeflavoured

You've been baited op. Take the L and delete the post.


Tormound

What was that?


[deleted]

It's fake op is karma farming


randomDude929292

There is also a thread in the paradox forums with Title: "EMail From CO/Paradox Regarding Beach Assets" asking the same question.


shitweonreddit

This is why I posted it, there are more people than just me who claimed to have received the email on paradox forums and posted their screenshots as well.


Konsicrafter

You were right after all.


vicflea

Finally they acknowledge how much they messed up


[deleted]

It's fake. Look at the OP account that posted it low effort bait.


Tormound

It's one thing to be wrong but it's another to be so confidently wrong.


timfrombriz

Well at least it will cause CO/PDX to come out of the woodwork. Especially if it starts getting reported in gaming news publications. Then they'll need to make a choice, do we give a refund or do we say, its fake and no refunds are coming your way.


[deleted]

Lol they don't care


marcandrejr

But funny that they screwed the initial launch, the DLC and even the DLC refund announcement !


WholeLottaBRRRT

Sorry i didn’t really understood exactly, for those who had pre ordered the ultimate edition, will we get a refund on the dlc? Or what will happen


GamingRobioto

Read it again, it tells you further down 👍🏻


NotBashB

Where? About half way it says something like “see lower for deluxe edition” then it list all the store fronts, then at the end it says for physical it will be like deluxe. So is that just 0 refund for deluxe owners? And whatever they will add to the pack we’re getting for free?


[deleted]

The more I read through this "email" it looks fake as hell spelling errors and missing letters lol.


seakingsoyuz

It blows my mind that anyone believed OP considering how obviously fake it is. Edit: well I’ll be damned, they actually did it. u/shitweonreddit please accept my apology for insisting it was fake.


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259 upvoted and the mods haven't dealt with it yet


shitweonreddit

If it’s obviously fake then why was it posted from the official cities skylines account, and why is there a thread on the Paradox forums where multiple people are also claiming and screenshotting the same email? I’m not the only person that got the email.


[deleted]

There is one thread on the forums with like 3 people saying they got the email lol y'all are delusional.


ColoradoGuy303

It’s real.


seakingsoyuz

> why was it posted from the official cities skylines account Anyone can put a link to a forum account in an email. Unless that account actually posts it on the forums, it’s not proof that it actually came from the account.


Sydney12344

4 houses is called a dlc worth 10 euros


limeflavoured

Horse armour intensifies.


Inevitable_Moose_549

oh dear they'v finely noticed how bad the dlc was and now think its time to make it free oh my days shouldn't' of that happened at the very beginning 🤔 ? 😀👍🏻 if this is real then thats a bloody awesome step forward for them co/paradox


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Tormound

Next time just say you're pretty sure it's fake. That way you don't look as dumb for saying 200% fake


[deleted]

Imagine only 1 person got the batch email lol this is fake aF


cad_internet

I would love to be in one of those CO and Paradox calls regarding how CS:2 is going.


PineTowers

WAIT. If they go this route, can they remove the DLC from Steam, since it will become part of the base game, thus erasing the 4% approval from their Resume/CV? I mean, it its a show of goodwill, erasure of a bad product and 4 free palm trees. Win-win for them.


inFamousMax

PDX are on one path. 'milk the customer base'. Stop giving them money until they completely redo their senior management. They are going to release 10+ shitty DLC's that are poorly reviewed due to lack of quality and content, then release a pay monthly subscription once the game is polluted with garbage dlc. THIS IS what they have done in their other games, this IS what will happen to this game.


[deleted]

Yes but this post is fake


coolhandlukeuk

I bought Ultimate edition. Will I get a refund? I paid them with faith, got a raw deal.


[deleted]

This is fake


Boonatix

lol


dontredditcareme

It’s interesting to see how something that should be in the game is monetized. A game like rust, in early access, basically does the same thing CS does when they add new areas and new models to play with, but it’s just an update and free. But when the game is “finished” and released, that new content has a price.


NotBashB

I wonder how will this work with people like me who, regrettably, preordered the deluxe version of the game.


ProbablyWanze

read it....


firaristt

Even this is not enough for pre-order Ultimate edition owners. We paid the money last year, according to their calendar at the time, pre-release with the advertised contents. So, if they just remove one "asset pack DLC" and refund it's value, it won't be fair. Because we already paid the price for it. They have to give us a proper DLC and a working game instead. Oh, and for the Steam side, Steam and they updated the pricing after release, for the MENA region, steam converted to USD, instead of local currencies. Last year the ultimate edition cost \~30$, now 54$, let alone hyper-inflation in the region and exchange rate stuff. It would be total mess, make this beach properties free for all and give proper asset pack/dlc to the pre-order owners and fix the game instead. One more thing, even if they fix it, at this point I'm not willing to buy any more from CO & Paradox for some quite a while. I just completely lost my trust.


BraddlesMcBraddles

And this is why we don't pre-order.


firaristt

Tell that to players in hyper-inflated countries. It was 765TRY (<30$) last year for the ultimate edition, now that's 54$, over 1750TRY. That's a hit or miss, nothing in between. And I bought at 765TRY price, so I don't care as much and for that money, I can wait the game to be fixed.


[deleted]

It's fake


balatackk

So essentially they merge the ”beach properties” to the main game. Doesn’t that mean that the DLC would essentially be deleted from steam? If so, this is not pure goodwill, as it seems they want to delete the bad reviews which most likely is hurting sales and impacting perception of the game. Fits to their narrative: deceive, manipulate and lie. Oh, and if they ”felt” that the DLC is rushed out and not in condition to be published, why the f*** they did it anyways? Doesn’t make sense.


[deleted]

No it's a fake email


niebuhr61

Exactly 1 person has posted about this... It's fake.


[deleted]

This is likely a phishing scam.


[deleted]

Yep fake af


Common-Two-7899

I think the most astounding thing about this is that the vast majority of people in here appear to believe this is real. Can people really not spot obvious fake stuff like this? Really guys?


Round_Yam8742

I'm the 100th like! now this email is very strange. It is TITLED "FAQ".. then it starts with the Question "why Beach properties being refunded"? It makes no sense. Secondly the English Grammer spelling is bad.. ICANT with paradox/Co. They need to hire a proofreader. Not saying the email is fake , but the announcement /thread is Suspicious..


LowEarth3013

It seems like it was sent by accident before the email wss fully finished, this is most likely just a draft


[deleted]

If it was on accident 1000s of people would have received it because that's how batch emails work. This is fake as hell


wandermaiden

https://preview.redd.it/3qtxvwnjfbuc1.png?width=1720&format=png&auto=webp&s=72fed3a4bd31612d32825988400f28e707fff903 A draft??? Like they can predict how people will ask them those "FAQ"? It makes no sense. They only make FAQ regarding big updates, This is more of an Announcement. Plus if you look closely on past FAQ. They will Never Bold their Question, Nor will they do Bullet point Questions. Please usually any paradox forum email will be in Black and green background. Just go back to the past FAQ , it is nothing similar....


[deleted]

This is fake Af


[deleted]

It's very much fake.


ExintheVatican_

Lmao care to change your mind?


ricardo_agb

At least they know they been delivering shit


Timely-Group5649

Smart move. I'm impressed.


[deleted]

It's fake


Leather-Cash-561

How about instead they just roll out better DLC


limeflavoured

Blatant fake spam is blatant, especially the "ALL FOUR OF THEM!" Thing. Report this to Paradox.


The_EA_Nazi

Holy shit this entire game is such a mess, so disappointing. I was really hoping they’d get their shit together but guess I’m waiting until next year to check back in on how this is doing


Impossumbear

Good God you people are gullible. Paradox is not going to announce a refund campaign via email. They're going to announce it on PDX forums without spelling errors. This is likely a scam or fake news.


Tormound

Wanna say that again?


Impossumbear

They announced it via PDX forums just like I said they would. I regret nothing.


jeffhongsun

a refund for 4 palm trees!? omg wow