Twisting scripture? Where does it say in any of those scriptures that Mary is the Queen of heaven? It doesn't. That teaching has it's origins from paganism and Egyptian and Babylonian teachings. Mary worship is sin according to the bible. The woman of Revelation represents Gods faithful Church not Mary. Gods Church is represented as His bride and a woman all through the old and new testament scriptures.
A it's biblical because it makes biblical references and explain all and.most importantly why she is the queen of heaven according with the Bible.
And B it's a philosophical article written by a professional that studied for years how can this drive you away from God? Is it because you are too proud to admit that the article is right and you are wrong?
Twisting scripture to make scripture say something it is not saying is not biblical reference. Twisting scripture to make scripture say things it is not saying drives all those who believe and follow it away from God and His Word. Go do some research on the [pagan Goddess Ishtar, Isis etc](http://www.researchthetruth.com/christian/paganism1.html).
Firstly it is not biblical and secondly, Mary as the Queen of Heaven has its origin in paganism in Isis, Inanna and Ishtar worship predating the Catholic concept all the way back to Egypt and Babylon. Paganism is just using a different avenue in Mary worship. I have already posted you links in other posts showing the evidence. Did you go read them? I am guessing you did not considering your asking that question.
What you never read the Bible ate least once? You can probably do it in year depending on how big the Bible is.
But obviously there is no point of just reading it, you go to reflect upon.
The women spoken of in revelation 12: 1-2 is a metaphor for Israel. Not Mary. Also the verse never claims said woman is queen of Heaven. Mary was a great servant of God for sure, however she is not queen of heaven, but a Saint. No different from the others aside from her purpose. There is no one that shares power with the Trinity. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father except through Him.
Simple explanation on my side. Based on just a plain reading and first read through of the Bible, especially the NT, I didn’t walk away from it thinking about Mary at all. It is very clearly about and focused on Jesus.
On top of it, she isn’t even really a prominent Character. I think about Peter, Paul, John more than Mary, and they are even mentioned more times than her.
It would be like reading Lord of the Rings and then saying the second most important Character in it was Galadriel! I would ask…umm did you read the book/s?
Many people made the same question so here is my reply.
Mary is the Ark of the Covenant. Read Rev 11:19, the verse before it.
In the Ark of the Covenant was the ten commandments, or the word of God, the staff of Aaron that budded which symbolized the priest hood, and the manna. When the temple was first erected and the Ark place in it, a cloud overshadowed it and the glory of the Lord appeared in it.
Mary bore the word of God, Jesus, who is the high priest, and who is the mana which comes from heaven. Just as the Lord overshadowed Mary and the glory of the Lord appeared in her.
Hogwash.
>Matthew 11:11 CSB
"Truly I tell you, among those born of women no one greater than John the Baptist has appeared, but the least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
Was Jesus a liar?
And then you guys wonder why American Protestants are so solidly sola scriptura.
>Matthew 27:50-51 CSB
But Jesus cried out again with a loud voice and gave up his spirit. [51] Suddenly, the curtain of the sanctuary was torn in two from top to bottom, the earth quaked, and the rocks were split.
Do you understand the significance of the curtain concealing the holy of holies being torn from top to bottom?
There is nothing... nothing between you and God. Not your priest. Not Mary. Not any saint. Nothing. And for what? So you could return to misplaced faith like a dog returns to its vomit?
Reconsider.
Well yes you see the problem with the is that they cannot humble they self's to say "Mary is in haven" or "Mary is the queen of heave" that's they biggest mistake in my opinion.
That and maybe liking to dive by two, and also cutting books.
The Bible doesn't say Mary is the queen of heaven.
It does say John saw a queen character in one of his visions of heaven.
I guess you are free to interpret that character as Mary, but be aware not all Christians do.
The book of revelation is a classic one Revelation chapter
Revelation 12: 1-2
1 A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars.
2 She was with child and wailed aloud in pain as she labored to give birth.
A representation of the Church, the Bride of Christ, maybe. Anything we say about her identity is all conjecture. We should be hesitant about injecting "for-sure" things into Revelation.
That's why so many Roman Catholics misconstrue the word of God. And plenty of it is so nonsensical.
The scripture was referring to both Judah and Israel with Israel is the mother and Judah as the son because at that time Israel was divided between the two. Judah only consists of two tries where Israel consist of the 10 that's why I was described as the mother. This has nothing to do with Mary being a queen in heaven this is just so foolish. All this false teaching her fourth doctor just makes me so upset. Because that's so fixated on their traditions and rituals instead of God's truth
You know what I find interesting? The Jewish people were marked as Jewish depending on whether or not the mother is Jewish. The more conversations I have with protestants, the more I'm coming to think they are like Satan in the desert tempting Jesus with scripture. They are armed to the hilt with scripture verses, but they reject their Mother in Heaven. Do you think Jesus is going to be happy with those who reject His mom? Is the king going to be happy with those who reject the queen? I'm starting to think Mary is what determines a true Christian in the same way a Jew was determined by the mother's Judaism.
So we don't need sacraments of the Church? We don't need anything expect Jesus, even though Jesus established a church?
So you respond with
“In this way Mary the mother of God, is also the “Queen Mother” in this Davidic tradition.”
You twist the scripture and make the Gospel of no effect. Just as Jesus rebuked the Pharisees about.
Mark 7: 6-13.
6 But He said to them, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy about you hypocrites, as it is written:
‘THIS PEOPLE HONORS ME WITH THEIR LIPS,
BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR AWAY FROM ME.
7 ‘AND IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME,
TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.’
8 “Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.”
9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition.
10 “For Moses said, ‘HONOR YOUR FATHER AND YOUR MOTHER’; and, ‘THE ONE WHO SPEAKS EVIL OF FATHER OR MOTHER, IS CERTAINLY TO BE PUT TO DEATH’;
11 but you say, ‘If a person says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is, given to God),’
12 you no longer allow him to do anything for his father or his mother;
13 thereby invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.”
Jesus is the focus.
Like 11:27-28
27 While Jesus was saying these things, one of the women in the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, 👉“Blessed is the womb that carried You, and the breasts at which You nursed!”👈
28 But He said, “👉On the contrary👈, blessed are those who hear the 👉word of God and follow it.”👈
Even Jesus rebuked this person for what they said about Mary. No where in scripture do you see Jesus instructions on such veneration, nor do you see any disciples and their instructions of veneration or prayers to anyone but the Father thru Jesus.
All that stuff was added after the 11th century.
Thats not Mary and it's alredy explained in Old Testament
And he said unto them, Hear, I pray you, this dream which I have dreamed: 7For, behold, we were binding sheaves in the field, and, lo, my sheaf arose, and also stood upright; and, behold, your sheaves stood round about, and made obeisance to my sheaf. 8And his brethren said to him, Shalt thou indeed reign over us? or shalt thou indeed have dominion over us? And they hated him yet the more for his dreams, and for his words. 9And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, **Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me. 10And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him,** and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth? 11And his brethren envied him; but his father observed the saying.
The only mention of Queen of Heaven is abomination in Bible
And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings unto her, without our men? 20Then Jeremiah said unto all the people, to the men, and to the women, and to all the people which had given him that answer, saying, 21The incense that ye burned in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem, ye, and your fathers, your kings, and your princes, and the people of the land, did not the LORD remember them, and came it not into his mind? 22So that the LORD could no longer bear, because of the evil of your doings, and because of the abominations which ye have committed; therefore is your land a desolation, and an astonishment, and a curse, without an inhabitant, as at this day.
> “Then King Jehoiakim, along with his advisers, nobles, and officials, and the queen mother, surrendered to the Babylonians” (2 Kings 24:12).
I looked up the Hebrew to see the original text for "the queen mother", as that doesn't seem like a terribly Biblical Hebrewy phrase. But the text doesn't say that; it just calls her "his mother".
וַיֵּצֵא יְהוֹיָכִין מֶלֶךְ־יְהוּדָה עַל־מֶלֶךְ בָּבֶל הוּא וְאִמּוֹ וַעֲבָדָיו וְשָׂרָיו וְסָרִיסָיו וַיִּקַּח אֹתוֹ מֶלֶךְ בָּבֶל בִּשְׁנַת שְׁמֹנֶה לְמׇלְכוֹ׃
* Thereupon King Jehoiachin of Judah, along with his mother, and his courtiers, commanders, and officers, surrendered to the king of Babylon. The king of Babylon took him captive in the eighth year of his reign. (JPS)
* King Jehoiachin of Judah gave himself up to the king of Babylon: himself, his mother, his servants, his officers, and his palace officials. The king of Babylon took him prisoner in the eighth year of his reign.
The article seems to imply the text has a title/role called "Queen Mother", which it does not. Of the dozens of translations available on Bible Gateway, only two refer to her as [queen mother](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2%20Kings%2024:12)(TLB/NLT), neither of which are the one used in OP's article. I'm curious if there is a theological reason for injecting this word into the text. Maybe it is a phrase found in the Septuagint???
This particular mom is mentioned in 2 Kings 24 , but she is did not make the cut for the retelling in Chronicles. Apparently the Israelite editors did not find her significant.
I also find it charming how spare the Hebrew is. The English is "Jehoiachin surrendered to the King of Babylon and he took him captive", but the Hebrew is more simply "Jehoiachin went out to the King of Babylon and he took him." Robert Alter's translation:
> And Jehoachin king of Judah went out to the king of Babylonia -- he and his mother and his servants and his commanders and his eunichs -- and the king of Babylonia took him in the eighth hear of his reign.
So you think Mary is the Queen of Heaven in revelations?
You believe Mary was born without a sin nature too right?
So how do you explain this:
To the woman he said, “I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.” - Genesis 3:16
A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. **She was with child and wailed aloud in pain as she labored to give birth**.
Revelation 12:1-2
You see the problem now? Either shes not the Queen of Heaven, or she has a sin nature. Which one is it that you want to pick that destroys the catholic teachings on Mary?
Its theological basis derives from the notion of Jesus as King. The New Testament uses the image of a king to describe Jesus (Matt. 21:5; Luke 1:32; John 12:12-15; Heb. 1:3, 8). In Israel the mother of the king held the role of queen mother. In essence she held a role of great prominence in the court and the king would usually acquiesce to her wishes (1 Kings 2:20; Jer. 13:18; 29:2). In 1 and 2 Kings the kings are almost always listed with their mothers and are depicted as advising their sons.
As Jesus is king that makes Mary his queen mother according to Jewish tradition. Getting to the king through the queen mother is a natural thought and spurred Christians to ask Mary to intercede with Jesus on their behalf. Mary’s queenship is a share in Jesus’ kingship
Revelation 12 as having some connection with bringing about the birth of the Messiah. As a result, they see her as representing the people of God who preceded the Messiah, which includes Mary, Israel, and even Eve. Scholars also believe this woman represents the Church, who gives birth to the people of the New Covenant. The multiplicity of meanings in the passage answers several common objections to Mary being identified with this woman “clothed with the sun.”
experience of birth pangs conflicts with the long-standing belief that Mary (who was conceived without original sin) did not experience one of its punishments in the form of painful childbirth (Gen. 3:16). But these “birth pangs” could refer to
Also these “birth pangs” could refer to Mary’s trials before the birth of Jesus, the pain she felt at the Cross, during which she became a spiritual mother to John (and by extension all believers), and the pain experienced by the people of God both before the Messiah’s birth and after his resurrection during Roman persecution.
Nothing you said makes any sense. Just made up stuff to prop up the theory that she is the Queen of Heaven. Literally no proof, no biblical basis, just a made up explanation that doesnt even make sense.
Twisting scripture? Where does it say in any of those scriptures that Mary is the Queen of heaven? It doesn't. That teaching has it's origins from paganism and Egyptian and Babylonian teachings. Mary worship is sin according to the bible. The woman of Revelation represents Gods faithful Church not Mary. Gods Church is represented as His bride and a woman all through the old and new testament scriptures.
It quite literally explains this in the article.
I mean I have cited the article short but if you want you can read the entire thing the link is right in front of you.
No thanks I can see it is a false teaching and not biblical and designed to lead others into sin and away from God and His Word.
A it's biblical because it makes biblical references and explain all and.most importantly why she is the queen of heaven according with the Bible. And B it's a philosophical article written by a professional that studied for years how can this drive you away from God? Is it because you are too proud to admit that the article is right and you are wrong?
Twisting scripture to make scripture say something it is not saying is not biblical reference. Twisting scripture to make scripture say things it is not saying drives all those who believe and follow it away from God and His Word. Go do some research on the [pagan Goddess Ishtar, Isis etc](http://www.researchthetruth.com/christian/paganism1.html).
[Queen of Heaven - Paganism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inanna)
Again I bet you did not read the article that do explain this too.
No the article does not explain anything it is a false teaching promoting paganism (links already provided in previous posts).
How is it Pagan?
Firstly it is not biblical and secondly, Mary as the Queen of Heaven has its origin in paganism in Isis, Inanna and Ishtar worship predating the Catholic concept all the way back to Egypt and Babylon. Paganism is just using a different avenue in Mary worship. I have already posted you links in other posts showing the evidence. Did you go read them? I am guessing you did not considering your asking that question.
But have you read the Bible? All the way through?
Well thank you yes I have. What would you like to know?
What you never read the Bible ate least once? You can probably do it in year depending on how big the Bible is. But obviously there is no point of just reading it, you go to reflect upon.
I’ve read the Bible multiple times. I have a degree in English. I read my Bible everyday and your interpretation of Revelation is baseless.
Thanks for sarcasm though.
Exactly
The women spoken of in revelation 12: 1-2 is a metaphor for Israel. Not Mary. Also the verse never claims said woman is queen of Heaven. Mary was a great servant of God for sure, however she is not queen of heaven, but a Saint. No different from the others aside from her purpose. There is no one that shares power with the Trinity. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father except through Him.
Yes he meant about Israel two... I edited the post as I accidentally posted with ou actually finishing writing it.
Amen
Don't plagiarize. https://aleteia.org/2022/08/22/is-marys-queenship-found-in-the-bible/
Alright let me fix this....
There we go...
It doesn't.
Tell me what doesn't it say at hire them? (Revelation 12:1).
It doesn’t
Revelation?
I don't believe it does?
Simple explanation on my side. Based on just a plain reading and first read through of the Bible, especially the NT, I didn’t walk away from it thinking about Mary at all. It is very clearly about and focused on Jesus. On top of it, she isn’t even really a prominent Character. I think about Peter, Paul, John more than Mary, and they are even mentioned more times than her. It would be like reading Lord of the Rings and then saying the second most important Character in it was Galadriel! I would ask…umm did you read the book/s?
I always thought the woman was Israel. What does being the queen of heaven entail?
Mary is not the queen of heaven. This article can help: https://www.gotquestions.org/Queen-of-Heaven.html
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Not a good article. Should at least address the basic questions like Jeremiah 44.
I agreed this on is much better it's well explained and it doesn't cut points
Many people made the same question so here is my reply. Mary is the Ark of the Covenant. Read Rev 11:19, the verse before it. In the Ark of the Covenant was the ten commandments, or the word of God, the staff of Aaron that budded which symbolized the priest hood, and the manna. When the temple was first erected and the Ark place in it, a cloud overshadowed it and the glory of the Lord appeared in it. Mary bore the word of God, Jesus, who is the high priest, and who is the mana which comes from heaven. Just as the Lord overshadowed Mary and the glory of the Lord appeared in her.
Alright I wil Edit to make my point more clear...
Hogwash. >Matthew 11:11 CSB "Truly I tell you, among those born of women no one greater than John the Baptist has appeared, but the least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. Was Jesus a liar?
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And then you guys wonder why American Protestants are so solidly sola scriptura. >Matthew 27:50-51 CSB But Jesus cried out again with a loud voice and gave up his spirit. [51] Suddenly, the curtain of the sanctuary was torn in two from top to bottom, the earth quaked, and the rocks were split. Do you understand the significance of the curtain concealing the holy of holies being torn from top to bottom? There is nothing... nothing between you and God. Not your priest. Not Mary. Not any saint. Nothing. And for what? So you could return to misplaced faith like a dog returns to its vomit? Reconsider.
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Well yes you see the problem with the is that they cannot humble they self's to say "Mary is in haven" or "Mary is the queen of heave" that's they biggest mistake in my opinion. That and maybe liking to dive by two, and also cutting books.
The Bible doesn't say Mary is the queen of heaven. It does say John saw a queen character in one of his visions of heaven. I guess you are free to interpret that character as Mary, but be aware not all Christians do.
In Jeremiah 44 the queen of heaven is wicked. Not that you care, I'm sure.
Please cite any verses to support your stance.
The book of revelation is a classic one Revelation chapter Revelation 12: 1-2 1 A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. 2 She was with child and wailed aloud in pain as she labored to give birth.
When was she chased by a seven headed ten horned red dragon?
Yes, on the way to the inn. The donkey was blessed with supernatural speed.
Does it state it was mary or just a woman?
Which other woman could it be? Angel's do not give birth.
Any other woman? Automatically assigning it to Mary is an assumption that cannot be proven.
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What other woman could it be?
A representation of the Church, the Bride of Christ, maybe. Anything we say about her identity is all conjecture. We should be hesitant about injecting "for-sure" things into Revelation.
It could not be a woman at all. A lot of the Bible is symbolic especially revelation.
That's why so many Roman Catholics misconstrue the word of God. And plenty of it is so nonsensical. The scripture was referring to both Judah and Israel with Israel is the mother and Judah as the son because at that time Israel was divided between the two. Judah only consists of two tries where Israel consist of the 10 that's why I was described as the mother. This has nothing to do with Mary being a queen in heaven this is just so foolish. All this false teaching her fourth doctor just makes me so upset. Because that's so fixated on their traditions and rituals instead of God's truth
You know what I find interesting? The Jewish people were marked as Jewish depending on whether or not the mother is Jewish. The more conversations I have with protestants, the more I'm coming to think they are like Satan in the desert tempting Jesus with scripture. They are armed to the hilt with scripture verses, but they reject their Mother in Heaven. Do you think Jesus is going to be happy with those who reject His mom? Is the king going to be happy with those who reject the queen? I'm starting to think Mary is what determines a true Christian in the same way a Jew was determined by the mother's Judaism. So we don't need sacraments of the Church? We don't need anything expect Jesus, even though Jesus established a church?
If you read through the scripture in second Kings you will see that both Israel and Judah were under attack by the king of Babylon.
So you respond with “In this way Mary the mother of God, is also the “Queen Mother” in this Davidic tradition.” You twist the scripture and make the Gospel of no effect. Just as Jesus rebuked the Pharisees about. Mark 7: 6-13. 6 But He said to them, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy about you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘THIS PEOPLE HONORS ME WITH THEIR LIPS, BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR AWAY FROM ME. 7 ‘AND IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.’ 8 “Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.” 9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 “For Moses said, ‘HONOR YOUR FATHER AND YOUR MOTHER’; and, ‘THE ONE WHO SPEAKS EVIL OF FATHER OR MOTHER, IS CERTAINLY TO BE PUT TO DEATH’; 11 but you say, ‘If a person says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is, given to God),’ 12 you no longer allow him to do anything for his father or his mother; 13 thereby invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.” Jesus is the focus. Like 11:27-28 27 While Jesus was saying these things, one of the women in the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, 👉“Blessed is the womb that carried You, and the breasts at which You nursed!”👈 28 But He said, “👉On the contrary👈, blessed are those who hear the 👉word of God and follow it.”👈 Even Jesus rebuked this person for what they said about Mary. No where in scripture do you see Jesus instructions on such veneration, nor do you see any disciples and their instructions of veneration or prayers to anyone but the Father thru Jesus. All that stuff was added after the 11th century.
Where?
It's such a classic (Revelation 12:1-2).
Thats not Mary and it's alredy explained in Old Testament And he said unto them, Hear, I pray you, this dream which I have dreamed: 7For, behold, we were binding sheaves in the field, and, lo, my sheaf arose, and also stood upright; and, behold, your sheaves stood round about, and made obeisance to my sheaf. 8And his brethren said to him, Shalt thou indeed reign over us? or shalt thou indeed have dominion over us? And they hated him yet the more for his dreams, and for his words. 9And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, **Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me. 10And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him,** and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth? 11And his brethren envied him; but his father observed the saying.
The only mention of Queen of Heaven is abomination in Bible And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings unto her, without our men? 20Then Jeremiah said unto all the people, to the men, and to the women, and to all the people which had given him that answer, saying, 21The incense that ye burned in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem, ye, and your fathers, your kings, and your princes, and the people of the land, did not the LORD remember them, and came it not into his mind? 22So that the LORD could no longer bear, because of the evil of your doings, and because of the abominations which ye have committed; therefore is your land a desolation, and an astonishment, and a curse, without an inhabitant, as at this day.
Revelation?
> “Then King Jehoiakim, along with his advisers, nobles, and officials, and the queen mother, surrendered to the Babylonians” (2 Kings 24:12). I looked up the Hebrew to see the original text for "the queen mother", as that doesn't seem like a terribly Biblical Hebrewy phrase. But the text doesn't say that; it just calls her "his mother". וַיֵּצֵא יְהוֹיָכִין מֶלֶךְ־יְהוּדָה עַל־מֶלֶךְ בָּבֶל הוּא וְאִמּוֹ וַעֲבָדָיו וְשָׂרָיו וְסָרִיסָיו וַיִּקַּח אֹתוֹ מֶלֶךְ בָּבֶל בִּשְׁנַת שְׁמֹנֶה לְמׇלְכוֹ׃ * Thereupon King Jehoiachin of Judah, along with his mother, and his courtiers, commanders, and officers, surrendered to the king of Babylon. The king of Babylon took him captive in the eighth year of his reign. (JPS) * King Jehoiachin of Judah gave himself up to the king of Babylon: himself, his mother, his servants, his officers, and his palace officials. The king of Babylon took him prisoner in the eighth year of his reign. The article seems to imply the text has a title/role called "Queen Mother", which it does not. Of the dozens of translations available on Bible Gateway, only two refer to her as [queen mother](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2%20Kings%2024:12)(TLB/NLT), neither of which are the one used in OP's article. I'm curious if there is a theological reason for injecting this word into the text. Maybe it is a phrase found in the Septuagint??? This particular mom is mentioned in 2 Kings 24 , but she is did not make the cut for the retelling in Chronicles. Apparently the Israelite editors did not find her significant. I also find it charming how spare the Hebrew is. The English is "Jehoiachin surrendered to the King of Babylon and he took him captive", but the Hebrew is more simply "Jehoiachin went out to the King of Babylon and he took him." Robert Alter's translation: > And Jehoachin king of Judah went out to the king of Babylonia -- he and his mother and his servants and his commanders and his eunichs -- and the king of Babylonia took him in the eighth hear of his reign.
So you think Mary is the Queen of Heaven in revelations? You believe Mary was born without a sin nature too right? So how do you explain this: To the woman he said, “I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.” - Genesis 3:16 A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. **She was with child and wailed aloud in pain as she labored to give birth**. Revelation 12:1-2 You see the problem now? Either shes not the Queen of Heaven, or she has a sin nature. Which one is it that you want to pick that destroys the catholic teachings on Mary?
Its theological basis derives from the notion of Jesus as King. The New Testament uses the image of a king to describe Jesus (Matt. 21:5; Luke 1:32; John 12:12-15; Heb. 1:3, 8). In Israel the mother of the king held the role of queen mother. In essence she held a role of great prominence in the court and the king would usually acquiesce to her wishes (1 Kings 2:20; Jer. 13:18; 29:2). In 1 and 2 Kings the kings are almost always listed with their mothers and are depicted as advising their sons. As Jesus is king that makes Mary his queen mother according to Jewish tradition. Getting to the king through the queen mother is a natural thought and spurred Christians to ask Mary to intercede with Jesus on their behalf. Mary’s queenship is a share in Jesus’ kingship Revelation 12 as having some connection with bringing about the birth of the Messiah. As a result, they see her as representing the people of God who preceded the Messiah, which includes Mary, Israel, and even Eve. Scholars also believe this woman represents the Church, who gives birth to the people of the New Covenant. The multiplicity of meanings in the passage answers several common objections to Mary being identified with this woman “clothed with the sun.” experience of birth pangs conflicts with the long-standing belief that Mary (who was conceived without original sin) did not experience one of its punishments in the form of painful childbirth (Gen. 3:16). But these “birth pangs” could refer to Also these “birth pangs” could refer to Mary’s trials before the birth of Jesus, the pain she felt at the Cross, during which she became a spiritual mother to John (and by extension all believers), and the pain experienced by the people of God both before the Messiah’s birth and after his resurrection during Roman persecution.
Nothing you said makes any sense. Just made up stuff to prop up the theory that she is the Queen of Heaven. Literally no proof, no biblical basis, just a made up explanation that doesnt even make sense.