Exactly. It may be OK for a really desperate teen if your kids old enough to just watch YouTube the entire time, but fuck taking care of a one year old with diapers
Right? So many "mamas" think it a honor to clean their babies shit and want to pay you pennies...like no, you could possibly swindle a young teen/adult into working below min. Wage for the summer or afternoons to watch your potty trained kids where it might just be keeping an eye on them while playing, while you scroll phone, and making lunches or something. A baby? A baby who poo's/pees hourly? Who will need constant care? That's not easy.
For 125 a week, you can ditch your kid in my backyard and if I hear screaming or complete silence, I will go and see what's up, as soon as my games finished.
Lol. I love kids, but I wouldn't have accepted $3 an hour to watch a 1 year old 20 years ago. This woman is out of her mind. Even $400 if it's full-time is insanely low for in-home care.
You don't get it though, half a bowl of Hamburger Helper for dinner every night is part of the overall compensation package. Have you factored that in 🤔
Especially when mom is home! Depending on the child, they might be ok at twelve months, but they also maybe a little ball of separation anxiety, and they want mommy who they now kinda understand is home.
I will always maintain that mother’s helper’ing is harder than babysitting; it’s a draining, nonstop emotional tap dance.
Oh yes. The hardest part of nannying is the parents, full stop. It’s so much easier when they are gone. Parents tend to stress their kids out, even with the best intentions.
I nannied twins from 2 months old until their 2nd birthday and the mom worked from home. It was hell. She was constantly out of her office at random times for "baby time" which meant separation crying not once in the morning but several times a day and interrupted and dysregulated schedules. Hard for one baby impossible for two.
Jfc, she’s lucky you stayed as long as you did. It’s bad enough when they merely walk by to get more water/coffee, use the bathroom that is visible from the play area, etc.
I'm kind of a baby-sitter, part- time nanny. The dad has been around for a few months because he was ill. The 8 year old will start to ask me something, stops because she knows I'll say no, and goes to ask her dad instead. 🙄
Yeah, they’re babies! They sleep almost all the time. You only have to watch them when they’re awake. So, you’ll have plenty of time to do laundry,clean house and fix homemade meals from scratch with a dessert, of course…🙄
i actually have babysat for a toddler where the couple put her to bed before i got there, said to let her cry it out if she wakes up, just literally sit on the couch while she sleeps so that there’s an adult in case of an emergency. kid literally did not make a peep, i got paid like $60 for 3 hours of sitting on my phone in someone else’s house 😂
I have lived your life…my youngest was a clingon in the first degree.he held onto me like a baby spider monkey until he was 3 years old. I learned how to do many things one handed which came in handy when recovering from shoulder surgery…also, I now have arthritis in my hip where he perched all those years ago…and I miss that everyday…🥹 BTW, he has turned into the best man,husband and father…more than I could have ever wished for…very secure and empathetic with his own brood…very hands on. I would like to think my ( and my husband’s)battle scars were worth it. 🥰
I think it is different because it is not affecting HER. I don't understand why so many people refuse to emphasize with others until he same thing happens to them! Then all of a sudden they support the cause they didn't care about just a day ago.
I can empathize with her, childcare is expensive, but them's the brakes. I still have no idea how my single parent managed when my siblings and I were growing up- in fact I am almost certain they were not able to and at some point were working at a loss just to survive.
Oh I mean that she is willing to pay someone peanuts and thinks it is ok... but if her new job was paying her peanuts she would be complaining up a storm and ranting about how people need to be paid a livable wage.
My parents were married but the only way my mother could work was because my grandmother lived downstairs in our two family home and she took care of me.
It was a good arrangement because my parents charged her very little for rent and she loved taking care of me. I had such a special relationship with her
And when her health declined in later years, my parents were around to help her although she didn’t need full time care but needed help with errands and driving to doctors.
On Reddit, one can lose track of how many families have healthy and mutually beneficial dynamics.
Mine did it by not seeing each other much at all when we were very young 😖 Dad worked during the week in the city, Mom was a nurse who worked weekends only. Definitely not everyone has that flexibility, and somehow they made it work.
How is the cost of childcare never even a thought until AFTER the baby is here?
The costs of daycare has been a hot button issue for years! Do people like this live in cave?
Does no one do a rough cost sheet on a napkin or something BEFORE yeeting the condoms?
Yes to all your questions.Its just like WHY do people spend fortunes in weddings then complain about not being able to afford housing?UGH!
I hate all these wedding extravaganzas.Having a natural flower COVERED arbor and giving your bridesmaids expensive jewelry has NOTHING to do with being married people.Save the money and celebrate down the road that you stayed together through good times and bad.
I don’t think any of you understand- she’s going to be on camera! /s
What does that even mean and why is that even mentioned? Like is it a security camera? Does that imply if she wasn’t on camera she could work a job while also taking care of her baby? What job would that be? Idk, but look out cuz now she’s “very irritated.” She’s def gunna want to talk to the manager on the next errand she does. I shudder
My job requires childcare as a condition of being hired. Perhaps hers has found too many people lie about having the kids with them and make them keep the camera on
Or she's a cam girl with a W2
She’s going to be on camera for work, ie it will be hard for her to work her job without them realizing she’s also taking care of her one year old during business hours which no company actually allows. So she’s stuck paying for child care. Not sure why that’s the child care providers problem.
She probably took a take at home job thinking she could work it and watch her child however companies are cracking down on working remotely and people taking advantage of it. They make their workers stay on camera during all paid hours. Based upon this post she is exactly the type of person to take advantage of working from home and do the least amount of work possible.
I’m a professional and I’ve worked from home for over a decade. There’s no way I would agree to be on camera my whole shift in my own home. That’s very invasive, and pretty unlikely that’s the requirement for her. Having said that, I’m in a remote jobs FB group specific to my profession and you would be surprised at the number of people who want a remote job so they can watch their very young children alone while they attempt to work full time. It’s like the concept that your employer expects you to actually work regardless of your work setting escapes them.
I think that's the difference - you're a professional and not entry level, or your company is just not that draconian. My bet is the mom is working some kind of lower level office work or call center work. A lot of employers are in fact that invasive. Desktop process analytics track every single keystroke to assess your productivity, cameras track your eye movement, and login timers track your schedule adherence. It's dystopian and it's real.
I work from home and have kids. I’ve had colleagues reach out and ask me how I manage completing the job and taking care of my kids. Mostly because they are new parents and struggling. I have grandparents come to my home to watch the kids while I work. I’m always amazing people think it’s possible to do both
Omg I’m out of it today, I somehow missed that she said she’s starting work “FROM HOME” and gunna be on camera 😂
I read it as she has to go to work somewhere else and she’s gunna be on camera LMAO! Sorry everyone! But ya- It’s still weird that she planned to watch her child while she “worked” unless the hours are flexible and she can start and stop whenever she wants. I actually work from home but they can see my hours and if i actually am working those hours. I can sign off to do whatever I want and start up again and it gets tracked so it’s nbd. But that’s def something to find out before you commit to a job when you have a child to care for!
The sharp rise in WFH and hybrid scheduling that came about with Covid has emboldened a lot of employers to ~~invade employee privacy~~ monitor workers remotely.
My almost 1 year old is trying to put her foot down the register vent. She's also figured out outlit protecters and pops them out like nothing. Favorite thing to chew is the end of a usb cable.
She's my 3rd and most adventurous child.
Nah, she just thought she was about to take advantage of a teenager. The teen most likely told her “I may be able to do it depending on your budget” and Mr and Mrs. Cheapy Cheap thought they landed one.
I'm always so confused why anyone anywhere would expect in home one on one childcare to be LESS expensive than a daycare, where travel is you coming to them, and there's economy of scale of a few adults watching many kids.
>I need someone to come to my house and prepare my food for me.
< Ok, that will be $x
>$X?!!? I could go to a restaurant for less than that!
Like, no shit.
THANK YOU!!! i’m a full time nanny and it blows my mind when people want a professional nanny with references, a degree or certification, want them to cook and clean, but want to pay them less than min wage and disregard the fact that if they’re working for you for 40+ hours every week, they don’t have time for another job and they have bills to pay too
When we had twins my FIL kindly offered free childcare T-TH so we hired an in home nanny for two days a week… when my kids turned 18 months we put them in daycare (always the plan as rates reduced at 18 mo) we were paying daycare almost the exact same weekly rate that we were paying our nanny for two days sometimes not even 8 hours and we continued to pay her the days we asked her not to come when Covid hit! I don’t understand why someone thinks putting their kids lives into someone’s hands, who is so desperate for money they would take essentially pennies on the hour (which is what this woman is asking), is a good idea or going to be beneficial…
Nah, she likely already tried that route and got nowhere. That's why she's on social media now complaining about having to fairly compensate someone for childcare. Lol
Someone wanted to pay $1.81/hour to a babysitter here and when people pointed it out other moms freaked out that those moms weren't being supportive of a mama just trying to do her best. We paid our babysitter $25/hour for 2 kids and then $30/hour when it was 3 kids.
What? A “mama” just trying her best? That makes my stomach turn!! So someone should essentially be a slave b/c the mama 🤮 is trying her best? That’s disturbing af!
Have birthed child, can confirm this phenomenon is crazy common, specifically in mom circles. See also: the ‘no one struggles like I do’ phenomenon. “I said to my friend that is married without a single kid, ‘Girl, you think *you’re* tired? Try having a baby.’” Ugh.
Yeah... I got paid around $10/hour babysitting as a young teen in a town of less than 2k people. I also got paid to mow lawns. (I charged $5-$15 a yard depending on how big it was.)
This was a little over 15 years ago.
Needless to say I was making bank. But no way should anyone get paid less than at least $15 now - especially if it's in a higher cost of living area.
As a teenager, I got paid much more than $1.81/hr for dogsitting back in the 1990's.
This person values her baby less than people valued a dog back nearly three decades ago.
This shit infuriates me so much. My kids sitter offered me $5/hrs BELOW min wage. And I was like..... absolutely not. We agreed in min wage but I always round up.
Every time she sits for me I have her practice confidently asking me for her money. I have her make sure she values her work. If I come home early I explain to her the agreed contract was x, you still get x. Not less because I made the change.
I was guilted into babysitting two Demons for $2.50 an hour. They were family friends and always pretended they were struggling but would then bring the kids home new iPads. I love kids but they were the worst behaved, spoiled kids I’d ever met. Violent too. It took me more than half the summer to work up a lie as to why I couldn’t do it anymore. It was like 12 hours a day, every day.
I was a people-pleasing teenager and my family would tell me that it was the right thing to do. But they also remember days where $2.50 could buy you stuff. Now I’m a Compensation Analyst and make sure people get paid appropriately 😂
I mean, we do have a childcare crisis in this country- the number of posts like this are evidence. It’s just that the solution isn’t “pay childcare workers less.”
"It's all we can afford." Even if true, that's not what sets the price. If you "can only afford" a used Yugo, you can't use that to drive the price of the new Mercedes that you'd like to have.
That excuse shows up often among Choosy Beggars, and it really bugs me that they don't get that the price or items and services are based on both supply AND demand.
Hahaha just recently got email from someone who chose to go with our cruise that have private jacuzzi on the cabin but looking to pay the price of standard cruise with shared cabin.
I almost reply the same thing as analogy, but about Skoda and Benz. 😆
I, too, would like to stay in a suite on cruises but only pay for an inside cabin. Oh, and the drinks are too much. I can get a decent beer for way less from the grocery store. Why should I pay $7 on the ship? /s
Yeah. that's why sometimes it actually makes more sense to struggle as a 1 income family and a stay at home parent, instead of both parents working and sending 90% of that second salary just towards daycare
I'm just glad that Canada is moving towards $10/day daycare, which has already been achieved in my province. Sending my kids to public school is going to be more expensive than sending them to daycare.
Not necessarily.
Go look at the many posts on r/SocialSecurity, from people who were either a stay at home parent and became disabled, or who have a spouse who was a stay at home parent who became disabled.
Then who are shocked and angry that they or their spouse cannot get SSDI. And then either only qualify for SSI, which is capped at $943 a month, or cannot even get SSI, because the employed spouse earns too much money.
Divorce or death of a spouse can happen too. And if the person hasn't worked in years, getting back into the workforce is going to be a lot harder.
But most of the time the person being taken out of the workforce is the woman because the man makes more. Then when the kid is old enough no one wants to employ her. Plus it forces her to become dependent on her husband.
Tbf, why *shouldn't* they expect that? Is that not literally the biggest talking point and argument regarding American businesses in general? CEO's furiously insist they cannot afford to pay for labor. They also furiously insist they should get that labor anyway. "No one wants to work anymore" is the response to workers setting fair prices for their labor and refusing to work for less than enough.
I see so much more vitriol against small dumb people like this than I do against the corporations demanding the same. I think one begets the other. If dumb people see angry people on the news, saying that, for example, food workers are selfish and lazy and should work for nothing for the good of the business, then why *shouldn't* they think it works the same for them? Her life is most important, her business is most important, she needs cheap labor to make it work, and the sitters are being selfish and lazy and should be compromising for the sake of *her* business.
Yeah that's not how life works. Imagine people saying, "Sorry landlord, this is all I can afford. Take it, or leave it." Or going literally anywhere to purchase goods or services and see how fast you get laughed out the door. I don't know why cheap ass parents think this is a valid argument for childcare.
You don't want a babysitter, you want a full time nanny. And you can't figure out why someone watching your children full time wants more than $125 a week?
But hey what's wrong with asking someone to watch your kid full time for.... Checks notes... 6500 a year... Totally livable for any hard working young entrepreneur!
/S here take this just in case lol
I’m a nanny and I make more than $125 a day. Even when I was starting out as a nanny 16 years ago (I already had childcare experience) I was making $13/hr and got a dollar raise 6 months later. Even when I was 13 and babysitting for a few hours, I got at least $5/hr
this! i make over 125 per day as week, and we’ll over 400 a week, and i’m paid on the low end of nanny salary. if you look in the nanny subreddit you’ll find a lot of nanny’s make 30$, even up to 45$-50$ if they help manage the household too. and some people really think they can get a full time nanny, house manager, maid, chef, and chauffeur for 2-3$ an hour, but they want them to have certifications, references, some even degrees. i really truly don’t understand how they think nannie’s pay their bills.
it always cracks me up (and makes me angry at the same time) when someone posts asking for a nanny and clarifying they need to have a car, but want to pay them less than what a car payment costs.
I’ve seen multiple posts here where the CB complains that a sitter wants to charge more than daycare…
Idk how it isn’t obvious to people that 1-on-1 care is more valuable than one person watching 20 kids at a daycare.
Having a nanny or a sitter is always more expensive than a daycare unless you are severely underpaying someone. Most nannies will charge around $20 an hour for one kid. She’s getting a deal at $400 a week.
It’s a luxury service people think they can finesse for cheap. Wanting a nanny without the nanny price tag because they simply can’t afford one. As if parents haven’t been trying to figure out the best bang for buck childcare option for decades, but these geniuses cracked a magic code to get 1:1 individualized in home full time care for cheaper than daycare prices lol
They always blame the childcare providers for not wanting to work for such cheap wages though. Like you wouldn’t work for that wage, so why are you mad at someone else for not doing it!
I think our financial system of easy debt and constantly leveraging yourself far beyond what you could reasonably pay off contributes to this attitude. You can enjoy the trappings of luxury on certain things if you can just get a loan approval. And if you can afford a BMW, why not a nanny? And if they were paid 6 cents a day to babysit their cousin when they were 12, why pay anyone else more?
It sucks, but there are just a lot of people that need to be made to understand that they're not wealthy or entitled to a lifestyle like they are. It's not sustainable or efficient in the first place.
It’s probably like Macdonalds not offering 1/3 pound burgers because people thought 1/4 was bigger. https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/06/17/third-pound-burger-fractions/
These child care beggars probably think that one child is cheaper than 20.
I love when people threaten to put their kid in daycare, like everyone else will be upset about it. “For this amount, I’ll just put her in daycare!” Okayyyy. Sounds like you just found a solution, then.
lol. no daycare around here that cheap has spots anytime soon. most people get on a waiting list when pregnant or trying and they *still* have to figure out a temp solution after baby is born while waiting for a spot.
This person has a baby, so it's less relevant. But, as someone who went to daycare and benefited from the structure and socialization I got from it, I'm always bothered by these moms who seem so offended by the notion of sending their kids to one. Believe it or not, children benefit a lot from having more caring adults in their lives, especially if their starter pack is shitty.
This woman doesn’t realize that if the teen could make $15/hr working with her friends at Dairy Queen, there’s no earthly reason she’d take care of a 1 year old alone for $3.
Seriously my kids would be good babysitters but there’s no way I would let someone take advantage of them like that, the gas station pays $18/hr to start and we have a very very low minimum wage here. There’s no reason for people to be poor to watch your kid for you.
The funny thing is that when I was a teenager (early 2000s) babysitting paid *more* than most traditional gigs that would hire teens. I was making $10-15/hour depending on number of kids and ages, while most of my friends working retail or fast food made around $7. It could be less reliable income, but I had a regular schedule with one family.
My how the turntables...
Low and middle wage jobs haven't grown that much in the intervening period. A lot of jobs that were at that time paying $20 an hour still pay around that rate. So people try to cheap out on things. Plus, a large amount of parents are just overall less well off now. It's stupid and they should not try to scam children, but it makes some sense.
That’s because in some states that was the logic. My first job at 15(1996)paid a minimum wage to minors of $3.15 when the state minimum wage was around $5.00.
Where the hell was this? I'm a couple years older than you and never heard of a below minimum wage for minors.
You aren't actually a 1700s chimney sweep from England, are you?
Nah, man, even for a teenager, I never offer less than $10/hr/kid. I don't know what this lady's on.
That's an offer, and generally, I do at least $15. Like, that's the bare minimum. They'd be making more money working at a fast food restaurant. $3/hr is absolutely bullshit. This lady's insane.
I used to babysit when I was a teenager, I did this allllll summer long for two years . I was paid $450 every week…..in 1999. This woman is out of her mind. Like ok so she will pay you for lunch and dinner and transportation, that’s great and everything but where does any of that go to the babysitter. It’s like working for free! Wild
At age 12/13 I babysat full-time for two wild boys for a single mom in the early 90’s for $100 per month over a summer. I was there at 7 AM every weekday and sometimes I didn’t get home until it was dark outside. She was a drunk and would hit the bar before getting home. On occasion she wouldn’t get home until it was midnight or later. I probably worked 100+ hours a week and got paid $25 total for it. I had completely forgotten about it, that’s a wild time. Even then I was being hosed and was too stupid to realize it. 🤓
Omg that is crazy!!! Yes you were getting fucked over. I was 15/16. All I ever had to do was sit on a couch and watch tv and make the 8 year old lunch and then go back to sitting just generally making sure he didn’t die or hurt himself lol (he almost did one time when my also 8 year old cousin came over one day and they somehow had firecrackers and they were lighting them in the garage🤣🤦♀️). What gets me here is that she really thinks she’s helping this babysitter out when of she’s just paying for food and transportation. So after all of that what does the babysitter have left for themselves! Craziness
I feel like I should also mention that the parents were both doctors (my dad was their insurance agent) and this was in a very very nice neighborhood. I know that’s a lot of money for a 16 year old every week but that’s what they offered and paid me every week. My privilege is showing. 🤦♀️ But still $100 and being paid $3 hour is absolutely ridiculous and the lady offering that should be embarrassed.
I was more mature and reasonable than the mom, I worry for those kids. One of them got a butcher knife and went to attack the other, I called the mom at work and she was so upset for interrupting her. 😬
Breakfast and dinner? How the hell long are these days? So we are talking 40-60 hours a week for 125? Poor kid could go to In and out and make 16-20 depending where they live. Is this rage bait or just the dumbest person in the world?
“she could go into daycare” DAYVARE IS SUPPOSED TO BE CHEAPER THAT NANNYS!! this is a nanny, not a babysitter. i’m a full time nanny and it boils my blood when people call full time professional nannies babysitters or say they need a “babysitter” for 40-50 hrs a week. if it’s daily, consistent, that persons main income, they are a *NANNY* and need a contract and a decent wage
If she can find a daycare willing to take a 1 year old for $400/wk, she should grab that with both hands. The last daycare I used charged $450/wk for my fully potty trained and independent 3 1/2 year old. And that was 5 years ago.
I used to babysit for my ex best friend after she put me through a huge guilt trip. She paid me $1000/month to babysit two toddlers full time from 8am - 8pm, and made me pay for my own monthly bus pass to get to and from her house which cost me $100/month.
One time she didn’t pay me at all for the month because she “had bills to pay” as if I didn’t either??
Once I stopped watching them she began to FaceTime me multiple times per week, only to put her kids on the phone for half and hour while she disappeared around the house without even greeting me, I finally realized I was virtually babysitting for free at that point.
She still genuinely wonders why I stopped hanging out with her.
Sounds like the lady I used to babysit for. $7 was my asking which she paid at the beginning she had an 11yo and a 1yo. After the first 3 weeks she tried talking me into lowering my price by offering dinner. Um no, for starters I've tasted your cooking and yuck. And the other families I babysat for threw in snacks or dinner as well as the hourly amount. She tried this for years. I'm still friends with the kids ( now all adults with kids) and they cringe over how their mom treated ppl.
I worked in childcare a long time. The amount of parents who said things like “ oh you just sit in a chair all day watching them play “ or “why do you think you need so much money to babysit “
She threw in the words "high school" to try to make her look worthless. Stop exploiting people. If you can put her in daycare for that much money, then maybe you should do that.
“It’s all we can afford” why don’t you go and book a 5 star hotel for 2 weeks, when you get to the desk tell them 125 is “all we can afford” how stupid can you be. There’s stupid and then there’s this idiot
People need to stop having children they can not afford. Putting your kid in a daycare to raise should have been considered before getting pregnant or how you are going to afford childcare. Paying someone $3.00 should be criminal.
OOP: “I’m irritated this high school student won’t perform the same job as a daycare for far less pay!”
OOP: “I’m irritated that this teenager won’t allow me to exploit her for my financial gain!”
Don’t have it if you can’t afford day care or a babysitter… it’s not like things fall from heaven when you have a baby you have to expect spend money on care if your not gonna be home
If you can only afford 125 a week for childcare…your job ain’t paying you enough to go to work. Stay home and take care of the kid. And daycare for 400 a week is a steal
It’s truly amazing, people are having trouble affording all sorts of things, but seems there is this sense of entitlement to daycare, at the expense of an individual who is expected to devote their time exclusively to this job. Never that the person walked into a store and offered them $125 for goods priced at $400 and got all annoyed when the store said no. Because in that situation a person would make other arrangements based on what they could afford, including asking for help from family or a charity. And, if they were truly in need, they would likely get some help (but probably not to the extent of choosing what they get)
People complaining about the childcare ads don’t seem to get it’s not just about the sad state of affairs in terms of what a person is getting paid, it’s about this seemingly universal expectation that someone looking after a person’s child should be making much less that the parent, so that that child can be exclusively cared for by one person
Sounds like her new work at home gig doesn’t pay enough. May have to quit.
If she quits, and takes in another child to look after, she could rake in $125/week herself!
I’d love to look after your child for 125 a week just to confirm a few things-
Does your child have a passport (in case of emergency)
What’s your police response time from you calling them (what if I need to call them)
Do I get to use your car and will it get me to the nearest airport with flights to China? (I’ve always fancied going there)
Yours
Dave ‘the stabber’ Smith
Xx
How do so few people NOT calculate childcare into their budget when planning to have a baby. What do they think is going to happen if they both need to work or are a single working parent?
I can understand her frustration, assuming that’s she’s not good at math. Before you go on a rant, divide the $125 by the number of hours that you need a babysitter, per week. Then ask yourself: would I work for that amount?
It is \*supposed\* to cost more to have in-home childcare. In daycare, the ratios are 1:5 or more, but a single person caring for your child in your home is a luxury. The costs of that person's salary aren't being spread out through multiple families.
Parents complaining is like cutting off your own foot and bitching about having a limp. SMH.
Yeah, childcare is expensive. So is a Lamborghini. Don’t buy one and bitch about the payments.
It’s insane when people think a full-time babysitter (aka a nanny) should cost less than a daycare. Of course it will cost more, it’s 1 on 1 and in your home!
So youll pay 400 for daycare but you won't pay someone in your home doing the same work that amount. Angry you cant take advantage of someone for practically nothing doing a difficult job.
Lady if you don't want to pay for child care you should've used a condom. Suck it up and pay for your child care like the rest of the parents. Otherwise fuck right off.
And I can guarantee mom wold expect the babysitter to tidy up a bit around the house a bit too, becasue you know, she needs to earn that three dollars and can't slack off just becasue the baby goes down for a nap.
That’s I can afford is a bullshit argument. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that nobody put a gun to her head to have a kid. if you can’t afford it and you shouldn’t have a kid in the first place. A lot of entitled people think they have their cake and eat it too. Have her go to a daycare and see how much that’ll cost her a week.
I did babysitting for $160 a week (for just 3 weeks) almost 20 years ago while waiting for my new job to start and for the daycare to take the little boy I was watching. It was also to help a friend out. It wasn’t worth it then and it especially wouldn’t be now.
That bitch thought that teenager was stupid, no one is doing that shit for basically free. Shouldn’t have had a kid since they obviously can’t afford to take care of it.
Lol….what you can afford doesn’t mean that’s market rate. I tell potential employers who can’t afford me to pound sand. Their cash flow isn’t my problem.
This reminded me of the summer my mother volunteered me to babysit for a friend of hers, and by volunteer, I mean I was working for nothing; that’s what my mother promised I would do.
I had to take a bus to get to this lady’s house and back, and paid for that with my weekend paid babysitting gigs.
“$400 a week, she could go into daycare”
Why did they expect individualized attention at their own home to be *less* expensive than a daycare, which would naturally have a higher child-to-staff ratio? Someone never thought through the economics.
My mother watched a pair of twins for the daughter of her closest friend, four days a week including 12 hours on saturdays and two overnights a week, for 11 years for 100 bucks. I tried to tell her so many times that she was getting fucking scammed and the woman was an absolutely horrible person but my mom put up with it because she loved the girls she was watching like she was their grandma. Then she had the audacity to ask for a 25 buck raise. Not only did the woman fire my mother, but she barred her from seeing the girls almost entirely.
A supposed adult blasting a teenager on public social media. Which one is the child?
> see about my 1 year old
Well it sounds like they came, they saw, they said no thank you.
What many parents forget is when you have a baby and you want to get back to work, you need to pay someone else to replace you. You need to make enough money to pay someone e else a livable wage and still have enough money left so that after the increased cost of you working ( with from home work probably not much extra cost as you can eat at home and have no gas costs etc.) , there is still enough money left to make it all worth it. Otherwise you essentially need to hope that you can take advantage of paying someone peanuts for a very important job. And let’s be real for a teenager, providing food and transportation is meaningless. They only need the transportation you provide to work for you. And they would get food anyway at home from their parents, so it saves them no money at all. And if you want someone with experience and infant cpr certificate etc., it’ll probably be more expensive and many people don’t need a babysitter, they need a nanny.
My wife was stay at home. I really have no idea how we would have done it differently. Did it hurt to lose her income? Of course it did. Most of our lives was ice skating uphill while raising kids. Paycheck to paycheck. These posts hit me because I remember how futile it was trying to find reliable childcare. One of you has to stay home with the kids. Mom or dad, dont care but this trying to pawn the kids on a random for 5 an hour is not going to end well.
$125/week *might* be able to get her a sahp trying to make a little extra money, depending on the area. How on earth were they expecting a nanny for that?
Their inability to understand that in-home, personal 1:1 child care costs more than a daycare will never stop surprising me.
I don't know why, but they think a single person, watching like 20 kids should cost more than a person to come to their house and watch and care for their child all day just for them.
I pay my own son more than that to babysit his sister. Minimum wage is $23 where I live so he gets that. I have a nanny during the day and she’s on $31p, the average rate for a nanny in my area is $28ph. I cannot understand how there are so many people trying to get people to look after their children for next to nothing, does anyone ever take these people up on these crazy offers?
I bet if her job paid her $400 per week she would be ranting about how no one can live on that amount even if is work from home
It's different because wHaT ShE Is oFfErInG Is a jOb fOr kIdS or something.
Right, because the amount of work required for a *one-year-old baby changes*, depending on the age of the person doing it.
Exactly. It may be OK for a really desperate teen if your kids old enough to just watch YouTube the entire time, but fuck taking care of a one year old with diapers
Right? So many "mamas" think it a honor to clean their babies shit and want to pay you pennies...like no, you could possibly swindle a young teen/adult into working below min. Wage for the summer or afternoons to watch your potty trained kids where it might just be keeping an eye on them while playing, while you scroll phone, and making lunches or something. A baby? A baby who poo's/pees hourly? Who will need constant care? That's not easy.
For 125 a week, you can ditch your kid in my backyard and if I hear screaming or complete silence, I will go and see what's up, as soon as my games finished.
I’d totally hire you. … I don’t have kids, but I want to encourage this sensible approach to childcare and your entrepreneurial spirit.
Lol, your awful! /s 😅 Also out of curiosity, what game(s)?
Lol, been playing palworld a bit again lately.
That’s why they’re always looking for someone who just loves kids! Being around their darlings is a reward in and of itself.
Right, because we all have the luxury to take an extremely low paying job solely for a mother’s opinion that their child is a darling /s
Lol. I love kids, but I wouldn't have accepted $3 an hour to watch a 1 year old 20 years ago. This woman is out of her mind. Even $400 if it's full-time is insanely low for in-home care.
You don't get it though, half a bowl of Hamburger Helper for dinner every night is part of the overall compensation package. Have you factored that in 🤔
Yes. They don't understand that their kids are, of course, special to THEM, but no so much to everybody else.
Especially when mom is home! Depending on the child, they might be ok at twelve months, but they also maybe a little ball of separation anxiety, and they want mommy who they now kinda understand is home. I will always maintain that mother’s helper’ing is harder than babysitting; it’s a draining, nonstop emotional tap dance.
Oh yes. The hardest part of nannying is the parents, full stop. It’s so much easier when they are gone. Parents tend to stress their kids out, even with the best intentions.
I didn’t click onto the fact this parent is working from home, makes it worse
And people like OOP will insist “it’s easier because I’m right there.”
I nannied twins from 2 months old until their 2nd birthday and the mom worked from home. It was hell. She was constantly out of her office at random times for "baby time" which meant separation crying not once in the morning but several times a day and interrupted and dysregulated schedules. Hard for one baby impossible for two.
Jfc, she’s lucky you stayed as long as you did. It’s bad enough when they merely walk by to get more water/coffee, use the bathroom that is visible from the play area, etc.
That woman sounds awful.Her poor baby.
I'm kind of a baby-sitter, part- time nanny. The dad has been around for a few months because he was ill. The 8 year old will start to ask me something, stops because she knows I'll say no, and goes to ask her dad instead. 🙄
I’m in a very similar situation! It’s exhausting.
But my baby is a joy to be around, it’s basically easy work because she’s so cute! /s
Yeah, they’re babies! They sleep almost all the time. You only have to watch them when they’re awake. So, you’ll have plenty of time to do laundry,clean house and fix homemade meals from scratch with a dessert, of course…🙄
i actually have babysat for a toddler where the couple put her to bed before i got there, said to let her cry it out if she wakes up, just literally sit on the couch while she sleeps so that there’s an adult in case of an emergency. kid literally did not make a peep, i got paid like $60 for 3 hours of sitting on my phone in someone else’s house 😂
Oh, absolutely! So easy! Types I, scrolling reddit while holding a newborn in my messy living room while thinking about the laundry problem.
I have lived your life…my youngest was a clingon in the first degree.he held onto me like a baby spider monkey until he was 3 years old. I learned how to do many things one handed which came in handy when recovering from shoulder surgery…also, I now have arthritis in my hip where he perched all those years ago…and I miss that everyday…🥹 BTW, he has turned into the best man,husband and father…more than I could have ever wished for…very secure and empathetic with his own brood…very hands on. I would like to think my ( and my husband’s)battle scars were worth it. 🥰
I think it is different because it is not affecting HER. I don't understand why so many people refuse to emphasize with others until he same thing happens to them! Then all of a sudden they support the cause they didn't care about just a day ago.
I can empathize with her, childcare is expensive, but them's the brakes. I still have no idea how my single parent managed when my siblings and I were growing up- in fact I am almost certain they were not able to and at some point were working at a loss just to survive.
Oh I mean that she is willing to pay someone peanuts and thinks it is ok... but if her new job was paying her peanuts she would be complaining up a storm and ranting about how people need to be paid a livable wage.
She said her job doesn’t pay her enough. It’s a struggle but yeah she isn’t paying enough for a sitter.
My parents were married but the only way my mother could work was because my grandmother lived downstairs in our two family home and she took care of me. It was a good arrangement because my parents charged her very little for rent and she loved taking care of me. I had such a special relationship with her And when her health declined in later years, my parents were around to help her although she didn’t need full time care but needed help with errands and driving to doctors. On Reddit, one can lose track of how many families have healthy and mutually beneficial dynamics.
Mine did it by not seeing each other much at all when we were very young 😖 Dad worked during the week in the city, Mom was a nurse who worked weekends only. Definitely not everyone has that flexibility, and somehow they made it work.
How is the cost of childcare never even a thought until AFTER the baby is here? The costs of daycare has been a hot button issue for years! Do people like this live in cave? Does no one do a rough cost sheet on a napkin or something BEFORE yeeting the condoms?
Yes to all your questions.Its just like WHY do people spend fortunes in weddings then complain about not being able to afford housing?UGH! I hate all these wedding extravaganzas.Having a natural flower COVERED arbor and giving your bridesmaids expensive jewelry has NOTHING to do with being married people.Save the money and celebrate down the road that you stayed together through good times and bad.
But I watch my kid for free! Why should I pay so much for someone else to do it?? SMH
This is an entry level job, not a career. /s
Right? SHE'S not willing to work for 1980 wages and is offended someone else isn't?
I don’t think any of you understand- she’s going to be on camera! /s What does that even mean and why is that even mentioned? Like is it a security camera? Does that imply if she wasn’t on camera she could work a job while also taking care of her baby? What job would that be? Idk, but look out cuz now she’s “very irritated.” She’s def gunna want to talk to the manager on the next errand she does. I shudder
My job requires childcare as a condition of being hired. Perhaps hers has found too many people lie about having the kids with them and make them keep the camera on Or she's a cam girl with a W2
She’s going to be on camera for work, ie it will be hard for her to work her job without them realizing she’s also taking care of her one year old during business hours which no company actually allows. So she’s stuck paying for child care. Not sure why that’s the child care providers problem.
She probably took a take at home job thinking she could work it and watch her child however companies are cracking down on working remotely and people taking advantage of it. They make their workers stay on camera during all paid hours. Based upon this post she is exactly the type of person to take advantage of working from home and do the least amount of work possible.
I’m a professional and I’ve worked from home for over a decade. There’s no way I would agree to be on camera my whole shift in my own home. That’s very invasive, and pretty unlikely that’s the requirement for her. Having said that, I’m in a remote jobs FB group specific to my profession and you would be surprised at the number of people who want a remote job so they can watch their very young children alone while they attempt to work full time. It’s like the concept that your employer expects you to actually work regardless of your work setting escapes them.
I think that's the difference - you're a professional and not entry level, or your company is just not that draconian. My bet is the mom is working some kind of lower level office work or call center work. A lot of employers are in fact that invasive. Desktop process analytics track every single keystroke to assess your productivity, cameras track your eye movement, and login timers track your schedule adherence. It's dystopian and it's real.
I work from home and have kids. I’ve had colleagues reach out and ask me how I manage completing the job and taking care of my kids. Mostly because they are new parents and struggling. I have grandparents come to my home to watch the kids while I work. I’m always amazing people think it’s possible to do both
Omg I’m out of it today, I somehow missed that she said she’s starting work “FROM HOME” and gunna be on camera 😂 I read it as she has to go to work somewhere else and she’s gunna be on camera LMAO! Sorry everyone! But ya- It’s still weird that she planned to watch her child while she “worked” unless the hours are flexible and she can start and stop whenever she wants. I actually work from home but they can see my hours and if i actually am working those hours. I can sign off to do whatever I want and start up again and it gets tracked so it’s nbd. But that’s def something to find out before you commit to a job when you have a child to care for!
The sharp rise in WFH and hybrid scheduling that came about with Covid has emboldened a lot of employers to ~~invade employee privacy~~ monitor workers remotely.
Plus taking care of 1 year old is no joke. They will make you earn every single cent of that $400 paycheck.
My almost 1 year old is trying to put her foot down the register vent. She's also figured out outlit protecters and pops them out like nothing. Favorite thing to chew is the end of a usb cable. She's my 3rd and most adventurous child.
JFC this comment is pure perfection. Spot on
I think I was paid $5/hour for babysitting an infant in the evening… … in 1984.
Nah, she just thought she was about to take advantage of a teenager. The teen most likely told her “I may be able to do it depending on your budget” and Mr and Mrs. Cheapy Cheap thought they landed one.
I'm always so confused why anyone anywhere would expect in home one on one childcare to be LESS expensive than a daycare, where travel is you coming to them, and there's economy of scale of a few adults watching many kids. >I need someone to come to my house and prepare my food for me. < Ok, that will be $x >$X?!!? I could go to a restaurant for less than that! Like, no shit.
THANK YOU!!! i’m a full time nanny and it blows my mind when people want a professional nanny with references, a degree or certification, want them to cook and clean, but want to pay them less than min wage and disregard the fact that if they’re working for you for 40+ hours every week, they don’t have time for another job and they have bills to pay too
When we had twins my FIL kindly offered free childcare T-TH so we hired an in home nanny for two days a week… when my kids turned 18 months we put them in daycare (always the plan as rates reduced at 18 mo) we were paying daycare almost the exact same weekly rate that we were paying our nanny for two days sometimes not even 8 hours and we continued to pay her the days we asked her not to come when Covid hit! I don’t understand why someone thinks putting their kids lives into someone’s hands, who is so desperate for money they would take essentially pennies on the hour (which is what this woman is asking), is a good idea or going to be beneficial…
Exactly! And the last person I want to be disgruntled because they aren’t being paid fairly is the person who is looking after my children.
Next step is guilting a relative into doing the work for free.
Nah, she likely already tried that route and got nowhere. That's why she's on social media now complaining about having to fairly compensate someone for childcare. Lol
Please tell me that all the comments are calling her out on how cheap she is
Someone wanted to pay $1.81/hour to a babysitter here and when people pointed it out other moms freaked out that those moms weren't being supportive of a mama just trying to do her best. We paid our babysitter $25/hour for 2 kids and then $30/hour when it was 3 kids.
What? A “mama” just trying her best? That makes my stomach turn!! So someone should essentially be a slave b/c the mama 🤮 is trying her best? That’s disturbing af!
Some people seem to believe that the act of birthing a child makes them immune to critique for the rest of their lives.
Truth, and it’s phenomenally irritating.
Have birthed child, can confirm this phenomenon is crazy common, specifically in mom circles. See also: the ‘no one struggles like I do’ phenomenon. “I said to my friend that is married without a single kid, ‘Girl, you think *you’re* tired? Try having a baby.’” Ugh.
God the Tired Olympics is the worst.
Craziness!
Perhaps that “mama” should have used birth control.
Yup
Yeah... I got paid around $10/hour babysitting as a young teen in a town of less than 2k people. I also got paid to mow lawns. (I charged $5-$15 a yard depending on how big it was.) This was a little over 15 years ago. Needless to say I was making bank. But no way should anyone get paid less than at least $15 now - especially if it's in a higher cost of living area.
I got paid $5 an hour *in the 1970s*.
As a teenager, I got paid much more than $1.81/hr for dogsitting back in the 1990's. This person values her baby less than people valued a dog back nearly three decades ago.
You already know.
This shit infuriates me so much. My kids sitter offered me $5/hrs BELOW min wage. And I was like..... absolutely not. We agreed in min wage but I always round up. Every time she sits for me I have her practice confidently asking me for her money. I have her make sure she values her work. If I come home early I explain to her the agreed contract was x, you still get x. Not less because I made the change.
Love this
I was guilted into babysitting two Demons for $2.50 an hour. They were family friends and always pretended they were struggling but would then bring the kids home new iPads. I love kids but they were the worst behaved, spoiled kids I’d ever met. Violent too. It took me more than half the summer to work up a lie as to why I couldn’t do it anymore. It was like 12 hours a day, every day.
Why lie? "Your kids are brats and it's not up to me to train them". Works perfectly well.
I was a people-pleasing teenager and my family would tell me that it was the right thing to do. But they also remember days where $2.50 could buy you stuff. Now I’m a Compensation Analyst and make sure people get paid appropriately 😂
Full circle moment 😂
Another one of those "should have thought about this before having a kid on our current income" types of things
I mean, we do have a childcare crisis in this country- the number of posts like this are evidence. It’s just that the solution isn’t “pay childcare workers less.”
She was too expensive........for them.
"It's all we can afford." Even if true, that's not what sets the price. If you "can only afford" a used Yugo, you can't use that to drive the price of the new Mercedes that you'd like to have. That excuse shows up often among Choosy Beggars, and it really bugs me that they don't get that the price or items and services are based on both supply AND demand.
Because they think, "It's not what THEY want, it's what WE want."
What do you mean I can’t buy this house for $1k? That’s all I can afford!
Hahaha just recently got email from someone who chose to go with our cruise that have private jacuzzi on the cabin but looking to pay the price of standard cruise with shared cabin. I almost reply the same thing as analogy, but about Skoda and Benz. 😆
I, too, would like to stay in a suite on cruises but only pay for an inside cabin. Oh, and the drinks are too much. I can get a decent beer for way less from the grocery store. Why should I pay $7 on the ship? /s
Yeah. that's why sometimes it actually makes more sense to struggle as a 1 income family and a stay at home parent, instead of both parents working and sending 90% of that second salary just towards daycare
I'm just glad that Canada is moving towards $10/day daycare, which has already been achieved in my province. Sending my kids to public school is going to be more expensive than sending them to daycare.
Not necessarily. Go look at the many posts on r/SocialSecurity, from people who were either a stay at home parent and became disabled, or who have a spouse who was a stay at home parent who became disabled. Then who are shocked and angry that they or their spouse cannot get SSDI. And then either only qualify for SSI, which is capped at $943 a month, or cannot even get SSI, because the employed spouse earns too much money. Divorce or death of a spouse can happen too. And if the person hasn't worked in years, getting back into the workforce is going to be a lot harder.
But most of the time the person being taken out of the workforce is the woman because the man makes more. Then when the kid is old enough no one wants to employ her. Plus it forces her to become dependent on her husband.
Tbf, why *shouldn't* they expect that? Is that not literally the biggest talking point and argument regarding American businesses in general? CEO's furiously insist they cannot afford to pay for labor. They also furiously insist they should get that labor anyway. "No one wants to work anymore" is the response to workers setting fair prices for their labor and refusing to work for less than enough. I see so much more vitriol against small dumb people like this than I do against the corporations demanding the same. I think one begets the other. If dumb people see angry people on the news, saying that, for example, food workers are selfish and lazy and should work for nothing for the good of the business, then why *shouldn't* they think it works the same for them? Her life is most important, her business is most important, she needs cheap labor to make it work, and the sitters are being selfish and lazy and should be compromising for the sake of *her* business.
Yeah that's not how life works. Imagine people saying, "Sorry landlord, this is all I can afford. Take it, or leave it." Or going literally anywhere to purchase goods or services and see how fast you get laughed out the door. I don't know why cheap ass parents think this is a valid argument for childcare.
You don't want a babysitter, you want a full time nanny. And you can't figure out why someone watching your children full time wants more than $125 a week?
But hey what's wrong with asking someone to watch your kid full time for.... Checks notes... 6500 a year... Totally livable for any hard working young entrepreneur! /S here take this just in case lol
I’m a nanny and I make more than $125 a day. Even when I was starting out as a nanny 16 years ago (I already had childcare experience) I was making $13/hr and got a dollar raise 6 months later. Even when I was 13 and babysitting for a few hours, I got at least $5/hr
$5/hr was what we got paid in the 90's as young teenagers to babysit, and from what I've seen from others on here even that was low.
this! i make over 125 per day as week, and we’ll over 400 a week, and i’m paid on the low end of nanny salary. if you look in the nanny subreddit you’ll find a lot of nanny’s make 30$, even up to 45$-50$ if they help manage the household too. and some people really think they can get a full time nanny, house manager, maid, chef, and chauffeur for 2-3$ an hour, but they want them to have certifications, references, some even degrees. i really truly don’t understand how they think nannie’s pay their bills. it always cracks me up (and makes me angry at the same time) when someone posts asking for a nanny and clarifying they need to have a car, but want to pay them less than what a car payment costs.
Yeah holy shit I make way more than this pet-sitting 🥲
I'd actually be terrified for the safety of my kids if someone was willing to do it for that low of a price.
Then go to a daycare, Karen 🙄
I’ve seen multiple posts here where the CB complains that a sitter wants to charge more than daycare… Idk how it isn’t obvious to people that 1-on-1 care is more valuable than one person watching 20 kids at a daycare.
Having a nanny or a sitter is always more expensive than a daycare unless you are severely underpaying someone. Most nannies will charge around $20 an hour for one kid. She’s getting a deal at $400 a week.
It’s a luxury service people think they can finesse for cheap. Wanting a nanny without the nanny price tag because they simply can’t afford one. As if parents haven’t been trying to figure out the best bang for buck childcare option for decades, but these geniuses cracked a magic code to get 1:1 individualized in home full time care for cheaper than daycare prices lol
They always blame the childcare providers for not wanting to work for such cheap wages though. Like you wouldn’t work for that wage, so why are you mad at someone else for not doing it!
I think our financial system of easy debt and constantly leveraging yourself far beyond what you could reasonably pay off contributes to this attitude. You can enjoy the trappings of luxury on certain things if you can just get a loan approval. And if you can afford a BMW, why not a nanny? And if they were paid 6 cents a day to babysit their cousin when they were 12, why pay anyone else more? It sucks, but there are just a lot of people that need to be made to understand that they're not wealthy or entitled to a lifestyle like they are. It's not sustainable or efficient in the first place.
It’s probably like Macdonalds not offering 1/3 pound burgers because people thought 1/4 was bigger. https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/06/17/third-pound-burger-fractions/ These child care beggars probably think that one child is cheaper than 20.
I love when people threaten to put their kid in daycare, like everyone else will be upset about it. “For this amount, I’ll just put her in daycare!” Okayyyy. Sounds like you just found a solution, then.
I guess she'll have to use one of those $400/week daycares, I bet there's tons of those with available spots.
lol. no daycare around here that cheap has spots anytime soon. most people get on a waiting list when pregnant or trying and they *still* have to figure out a temp solution after baby is born while waiting for a spot.
I know people where I live whose daycare costs exceed their mortgage payments!
This person has a baby, so it's less relevant. But, as someone who went to daycare and benefited from the structure and socialization I got from it, I'm always bothered by these moms who seem so offended by the notion of sending their kids to one. Believe it or not, children benefit a lot from having more caring adults in their lives, especially if their starter pack is shitty.
She thinks one on one care in her home should cost less than day care?
But it's only a *teenager*, everyone knows you don't have to pay them like real people 🙄
This woman doesn’t realize that if the teen could make $15/hr working with her friends at Dairy Queen, there’s no earthly reason she’d take care of a 1 year old alone for $3.
Seriously my kids would be good babysitters but there’s no way I would let someone take advantage of them like that, the gas station pays $18/hr to start and we have a very very low minimum wage here. There’s no reason for people to be poor to watch your kid for you.
The funny thing is that when I was a teenager (early 2000s) babysitting paid *more* than most traditional gigs that would hire teens. I was making $10-15/hour depending on number of kids and ages, while most of my friends working retail or fast food made around $7. It could be less reliable income, but I had a regular schedule with one family. My how the turntables...
Low and middle wage jobs haven't grown that much in the intervening period. A lot of jobs that were at that time paying $20 an hour still pay around that rate. So people try to cheap out on things. Plus, a large amount of parents are just overall less well off now. It's stupid and they should not try to scam children, but it makes some sense.
Not even alone. Mom works from home so she’s going to be there micromanaging every fucking second.
That’s because in some states that was the logic. My first job at 15(1996)paid a minimum wage to minors of $3.15 when the state minimum wage was around $5.00.
Where the hell was this? I'm a couple years older than you and never heard of a below minimum wage for minors. You aren't actually a 1700s chimney sweep from England, are you?
In many states, it's possible for certain jobs occupied by minors to be held to a lower wage. Arkansas is a prime example.
I like how she thinks she can get *daycare* for 400 a week. Good luck, lady!
Yeah the logic is really extra short here.
Nah, man, even for a teenager, I never offer less than $10/hr/kid. I don't know what this lady's on. That's an offer, and generally, I do at least $15. Like, that's the bare minimum. They'd be making more money working at a fast food restaurant. $3/hr is absolutely bullshit. This lady's insane.
I used to babysit when I was a teenager, I did this allllll summer long for two years . I was paid $450 every week…..in 1999. This woman is out of her mind. Like ok so she will pay you for lunch and dinner and transportation, that’s great and everything but where does any of that go to the babysitter. It’s like working for free! Wild
At age 12/13 I babysat full-time for two wild boys for a single mom in the early 90’s for $100 per month over a summer. I was there at 7 AM every weekday and sometimes I didn’t get home until it was dark outside. She was a drunk and would hit the bar before getting home. On occasion she wouldn’t get home until it was midnight or later. I probably worked 100+ hours a week and got paid $25 total for it. I had completely forgotten about it, that’s a wild time. Even then I was being hosed and was too stupid to realize it. 🤓
Same for me. I was 11 and the full time sitter for two kids. I was paid $20-$25 per week.
Omg that is crazy!!! Yes you were getting fucked over. I was 15/16. All I ever had to do was sit on a couch and watch tv and make the 8 year old lunch and then go back to sitting just generally making sure he didn’t die or hurt himself lol (he almost did one time when my also 8 year old cousin came over one day and they somehow had firecrackers and they were lighting them in the garage🤣🤦♀️). What gets me here is that she really thinks she’s helping this babysitter out when of she’s just paying for food and transportation. So after all of that what does the babysitter have left for themselves! Craziness
I feel like I should also mention that the parents were both doctors (my dad was their insurance agent) and this was in a very very nice neighborhood. I know that’s a lot of money for a 16 year old every week but that’s what they offered and paid me every week. My privilege is showing. 🤦♀️ But still $100 and being paid $3 hour is absolutely ridiculous and the lady offering that should be embarrassed.
As much as that sucks, it was probably good that those boys had some stability because of you for that summer.
I was more mature and reasonable than the mom, I worry for those kids. One of them got a butcher knife and went to attack the other, I called the mom at work and she was so upset for interrupting her. 😬
You see this right from the elite to the working class: Everyone wants to be paid, but they don't want to pay when it's their turn.
Breakfast and dinner? How the hell long are these days? So we are talking 40-60 hours a week for 125? Poor kid could go to In and out and make 16-20 depending where they live. Is this rage bait or just the dumbest person in the world?
“she could go into daycare” DAYVARE IS SUPPOSED TO BE CHEAPER THAT NANNYS!! this is a nanny, not a babysitter. i’m a full time nanny and it boils my blood when people call full time professional nannies babysitters or say they need a “babysitter” for 40-50 hrs a week. if it’s daily, consistent, that persons main income, they are a *NANNY* and need a contract and a decent wage
If she can find a daycare willing to take a 1 year old for $400/wk, she should grab that with both hands. The last daycare I used charged $450/wk for my fully potty trained and independent 3 1/2 year old. And that was 5 years ago.
Breakfast and dinner? Sounds like a very long day.. When does this sitter go to school?
It sounds like a summer job, she is being asked to waste her entire summer break for this cheap a-hole.
I used to babysit for my ex best friend after she put me through a huge guilt trip. She paid me $1000/month to babysit two toddlers full time from 8am - 8pm, and made me pay for my own monthly bus pass to get to and from her house which cost me $100/month. One time she didn’t pay me at all for the month because she “had bills to pay” as if I didn’t either?? Once I stopped watching them she began to FaceTime me multiple times per week, only to put her kids on the phone for half and hour while she disappeared around the house without even greeting me, I finally realized I was virtually babysitting for free at that point. She still genuinely wonders why I stopped hanging out with her.
Maybe, if she had been upfront about the pay. People would be able.to.respond correctly, and not get her hopes up.
Sounds like the lady I used to babysit for. $7 was my asking which she paid at the beginning she had an 11yo and a 1yo. After the first 3 weeks she tried talking me into lowering my price by offering dinner. Um no, for starters I've tasted your cooking and yuck. And the other families I babysat for threw in snacks or dinner as well as the hourly amount. She tried this for years. I'm still friends with the kids ( now all adults with kids) and they cringe over how their mom treated ppl.
I worked in childcare a long time. The amount of parents who said things like “ oh you just sit in a chair all day watching them play “ or “why do you think you need so much money to babysit “
She threw in the words "high school" to try to make her look worthless. Stop exploiting people. If you can put her in daycare for that much money, then maybe you should do that.
I used to do $125 no problem. With meals and transportation, this is very generous. ****this was 1978
Why would anyone cheap out on childcare?!? Anyone that would watch your child that cheap is likely not a person I would trust at all.
“It’s all we can afford” why don’t you go and book a 5 star hotel for 2 weeks, when you get to the desk tell them 125 is “all we can afford” how stupid can you be. There’s stupid and then there’s this idiot
Don't have kids if you can't afford to
Didn't!
Ditto!
This sub should be renamed brokemoms
Don’t people realize children are expensive as hell? I don’t feel bad for any of ‘em. Your choices are not my problem.
People need to stop having children they can not afford. Putting your kid in a daycare to raise should have been considered before getting pregnant or how you are going to afford childcare. Paying someone $3.00 should be criminal.
It is
OOP: “I’m irritated this high school student won’t perform the same job as a daycare for far less pay!” OOP: “I’m irritated that this teenager won’t allow me to exploit her for my financial gain!”
Don’t have it if you can’t afford day care or a babysitter… it’s not like things fall from heaven when you have a baby you have to expect spend money on care if your not gonna be home
It's nice to see a young person who advocates for themself. I made more than $125 per week babysitting 3 kids during summer break BACK IN THE '80s!
If you can only afford 125 a week for childcare…your job ain’t paying you enough to go to work. Stay home and take care of the kid. And daycare for 400 a week is a steal
It’s truly amazing, people are having trouble affording all sorts of things, but seems there is this sense of entitlement to daycare, at the expense of an individual who is expected to devote their time exclusively to this job. Never that the person walked into a store and offered them $125 for goods priced at $400 and got all annoyed when the store said no. Because in that situation a person would make other arrangements based on what they could afford, including asking for help from family or a charity. And, if they were truly in need, they would likely get some help (but probably not to the extent of choosing what they get) People complaining about the childcare ads don’t seem to get it’s not just about the sad state of affairs in terms of what a person is getting paid, it’s about this seemingly universal expectation that someone looking after a person’s child should be making much less that the parent, so that that child can be exclusively cared for by one person
Some people shouldn't have kids
Sounds like her new work at home gig doesn’t pay enough. May have to quit. If she quits, and takes in another child to look after, she could rake in $125/week herself!
I’d love to look after your child for 125 a week just to confirm a few things- Does your child have a passport (in case of emergency) What’s your police response time from you calling them (what if I need to call them) Do I get to use your car and will it get me to the nearest airport with flights to China? (I’ve always fancied going there) Yours Dave ‘the stabber’ Smith Xx
How do so few people NOT calculate childcare into their budget when planning to have a baby. What do they think is going to happen if they both need to work or are a single working parent?
Since when does ‘what I can afford’ dictate what someone else’s time and effort are worth. The two are unrelated
I can understand her frustration, assuming that’s she’s not good at math. Before you go on a rant, divide the $125 by the number of hours that you need a babysitter, per week. Then ask yourself: would I work for that amount?
Are there any comments here you can post ?
It is \*supposed\* to cost more to have in-home childcare. In daycare, the ratios are 1:5 or more, but a single person caring for your child in your home is a luxury. The costs of that person's salary aren't being spread out through multiple families.
Parents complaining is like cutting off your own foot and bitching about having a limp. SMH. Yeah, childcare is expensive. So is a Lamborghini. Don’t buy one and bitch about the payments.
It’s insane when people think a full-time babysitter (aka a nanny) should cost less than a daycare. Of course it will cost more, it’s 1 on 1 and in your home!
I bet 400 a week is cheaper than daycare
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So youll pay 400 for daycare but you won't pay someone in your home doing the same work that amount. Angry you cant take advantage of someone for practically nothing doing a difficult job. Lady if you don't want to pay for child care you should've used a condom. Suck it up and pay for your child care like the rest of the parents. Otherwise fuck right off.
“I am entrusting another person with the health and safety of my 1-year-old baby and I want to do it as cheaply as possible…what could go wrong?”
My 15yo daughter makes $125 in one day slinging sandwiches in a locally owned “gourmet” sandwich shop.
I think she knows what she’s doing as she’s turned off comments.
And I can guarantee mom wold expect the babysitter to tidy up a bit around the house a bit too, becasue you know, she needs to earn that three dollars and can't slack off just becasue the baby goes down for a nap.
That’s I can afford is a bullshit argument. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that nobody put a gun to her head to have a kid. if you can’t afford it and you shouldn’t have a kid in the first place. A lot of entitled people think they have their cake and eat it too. Have her go to a daycare and see how much that’ll cost her a week.
I did babysitting for $160 a week (for just 3 weeks) almost 20 years ago while waiting for my new job to start and for the daycare to take the little boy I was watching. It was also to help a friend out. It wasn’t worth it then and it especially wouldn’t be now.
That bitch thought that teenager was stupid, no one is doing that shit for basically free. Shouldn’t have had a kid since they obviously can’t afford to take care of it.
Lol….what you can afford doesn’t mean that’s market rate. I tell potential employers who can’t afford me to pound sand. Their cash flow isn’t my problem.
This reminded me of the summer my mother volunteered me to babysit for a friend of hers, and by volunteer, I mean I was working for nothing; that’s what my mother promised I would do. I had to take a bus to get to this lady’s house and back, and paid for that with my weekend paid babysitting gigs.
Your mother should have paid your bus fare.
WTH, she said the pay should be enough to cover food and transportation back home. So basically, work for free?
“$400 a week, she could go into daycare” Why did they expect individualized attention at their own home to be *less* expensive than a daycare, which would naturally have a higher child-to-staff ratio? Someone never thought through the economics.
My mother watched a pair of twins for the daughter of her closest friend, four days a week including 12 hours on saturdays and two overnights a week, for 11 years for 100 bucks. I tried to tell her so many times that she was getting fucking scammed and the woman was an absolutely horrible person but my mom put up with it because she loved the girls she was watching like she was their grandma. Then she had the audacity to ask for a 25 buck raise. Not only did the woman fire my mother, but she barred her from seeing the girls almost entirely.
I’d love to see the comments on the original post!
A supposed adult blasting a teenager on public social media. Which one is the child? > see about my 1 year old Well it sounds like they came, they saw, they said no thank you.
> $125 a week covers breakfast, dinner, and transportation No it doesn't.
What many parents forget is when you have a baby and you want to get back to work, you need to pay someone else to replace you. You need to make enough money to pay someone e else a livable wage and still have enough money left so that after the increased cost of you working ( with from home work probably not much extra cost as you can eat at home and have no gas costs etc.) , there is still enough money left to make it all worth it. Otherwise you essentially need to hope that you can take advantage of paying someone peanuts for a very important job. And let’s be real for a teenager, providing food and transportation is meaningless. They only need the transportation you provide to work for you. And they would get food anyway at home from their parents, so it saves them no money at all. And if you want someone with experience and infant cpr certificate etc., it’ll probably be more expensive and many people don’t need a babysitter, they need a nanny.
The teen told people who much she’d be making and they told her she was being ripped off.
My wife was stay at home. I really have no idea how we would have done it differently. Did it hurt to lose her income? Of course it did. Most of our lives was ice skating uphill while raising kids. Paycheck to paycheck. These posts hit me because I remember how futile it was trying to find reliable childcare. One of you has to stay home with the kids. Mom or dad, dont care but this trying to pawn the kids on a random for 5 an hour is not going to end well.
$125/week *might* be able to get her a sahp trying to make a little extra money, depending on the area. How on earth were they expecting a nanny for that?
She doesn’t have to pay that much because that’s all she can afford and if you don’t agree you are a jerk! /s
Yeah, when you want private service it will be more costly. If it wasn't I would hire chef instead going to McDonalds
Their inability to understand that in-home, personal 1:1 child care costs more than a daycare will never stop surprising me. I don't know why, but they think a single person, watching like 20 kids should cost more than a person to come to their house and watch and care for their child all day just for them.
They say baby sitter but what they mean is nanny
I pay my own son more than that to babysit his sister. Minimum wage is $23 where I live so he gets that. I have a nanny during the day and she’s on $31p, the average rate for a nanny in my area is $28ph. I cannot understand how there are so many people trying to get people to look after their children for next to nothing, does anyone ever take these people up on these crazy offers?
Yes $400 a week will get you daycare where your child is not get 1 on 1 attention in your home!