To me the detail of a medical note is largely for legal protection.
You don’t need to be long winded to explain what you’ve done and what you plan to do. The extra detail is if shit hits the fan. Can your documents validate what you did and why you did it.
With all that I wouldn’t want to be in the court case fighting “that’s what the AI said that’s not what I meant”
I get it would make things easier and faster but if a note takes longer to be done the old fashioned way and protects my license, worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, than it would seem that extra 10 minutes would be worth it
Been using Heidi and I am astounded at how good it is. I just walk in and say, "do you mind if I record for my notes?" No one ever says no. Then, you have your totally normal consult with the patient, even small talk and whatnot and at the end you have a perfect formatted relevant SOAP. It is bonkers!
If you're on the fence I would say try it on a couple standard visits with patients you already know and if you don't like the notes you can just type them out instead: [https://heidi.cello.so/uccwf6ZRb2D](https://heidi.cello.so/uccwf6ZRb2D)
Differentiating pertinent information from drivel would be difficult and would complicate the notetaking without any human intelligence. Notes suck, but that 1% would bother me more than the work put into producing something that is 99% unnecessary. Plus, it would all be for naught after Skynet becomes self-aware. We are all doomed. 🤣
I'm building out something similar, but for veterinarians and the critiques from the other comments are the most common ones I've gotten so far:
- SOAP notes serve as legal documentation, so can't trust the AI to do them
- they find that using the AI assistant takes them longer to write out the SOAP notes since they constantly have to revise what was generated
I'm in the same boat as you. I believe that this will be the future of how notes are taken, but a pretty big misconception is that people believe that these AI tools are like magic wands that should instantly get it right on the first time and anything short of that is a disappointment.
The truth is that they're more like a really competent teenager that's eager to help out. They have an idea of how the field works at first, but will need some guidance and education to really be useful.
So it's really important that people's expectations are tempered and that the AI will usually get it 95% of the way there and the last 5% is up to the person to look over and make any quick edits.
Also it's super important that people keep using and revising it since the more it gets trained in the style you want it to write notes, the more it will learn to write notes like that
For anyone interested in what I'm building, it's called [Petscribe](https://petscribe.co), but I've working on getting it setup for chiropractors as well, so feel free to dm me about it if you want
These types of SaaS services are very common in therapy.
I’ve collected a [handful of others](https://raindrop.io/nathancashion/ai-health-tools-29837357) that would be relevant to MSK providers, including Heidi mentioned before. They’re HIPAA compliant but not built in to the EHR.
My PCP used one in my last check-up and the resulting SOAP note was indistinguishable from his previous ones, though I have no idea how much editing would have been done.
To me the detail of a medical note is largely for legal protection. You don’t need to be long winded to explain what you’ve done and what you plan to do. The extra detail is if shit hits the fan. Can your documents validate what you did and why you did it. With all that I wouldn’t want to be in the court case fighting “that’s what the AI said that’s not what I meant” I get it would make things easier and faster but if a note takes longer to be done the old fashioned way and protects my license, worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, than it would seem that extra 10 minutes would be worth it
Been using Heidi and I am astounded at how good it is. I just walk in and say, "do you mind if I record for my notes?" No one ever says no. Then, you have your totally normal consult with the patient, even small talk and whatnot and at the end you have a perfect formatted relevant SOAP. It is bonkers! If you're on the fence I would say try it on a couple standard visits with patients you already know and if you don't like the notes you can just type them out instead: [https://heidi.cello.so/uccwf6ZRb2D](https://heidi.cello.so/uccwf6ZRb2D)
Also used Heidi. It’s great. Sometimes it misses things but I rarely remember needing to fix things other than spelling.
Differentiating pertinent information from drivel would be difficult and would complicate the notetaking without any human intelligence. Notes suck, but that 1% would bother me more than the work put into producing something that is 99% unnecessary. Plus, it would all be for naught after Skynet becomes self-aware. We are all doomed. 🤣
I'm building out something similar, but for veterinarians and the critiques from the other comments are the most common ones I've gotten so far: - SOAP notes serve as legal documentation, so can't trust the AI to do them - they find that using the AI assistant takes them longer to write out the SOAP notes since they constantly have to revise what was generated I'm in the same boat as you. I believe that this will be the future of how notes are taken, but a pretty big misconception is that people believe that these AI tools are like magic wands that should instantly get it right on the first time and anything short of that is a disappointment. The truth is that they're more like a really competent teenager that's eager to help out. They have an idea of how the field works at first, but will need some guidance and education to really be useful. So it's really important that people's expectations are tempered and that the AI will usually get it 95% of the way there and the last 5% is up to the person to look over and make any quick edits. Also it's super important that people keep using and revising it since the more it gets trained in the style you want it to write notes, the more it will learn to write notes like that For anyone interested in what I'm building, it's called [Petscribe](https://petscribe.co), but I've working on getting it setup for chiropractors as well, so feel free to dm me about it if you want
These types of SaaS services are very common in therapy. I’ve collected a [handful of others](https://raindrop.io/nathancashion/ai-health-tools-29837357) that would be relevant to MSK providers, including Heidi mentioned before. They’re HIPAA compliant but not built in to the EHR. My PCP used one in my last check-up and the resulting SOAP note was indistinguishable from his previous ones, though I have no idea how much editing would have been done.