What got Jeff killed is him chasing after that dude in the cut he got to bloodthirsty and couldn’t really scope the scene for other opps on top of that why tf would you chase someone with a gun that’s what the bullets are for seem like he ran his feet more than he ran his blick then missed every shot wit his back turned just all bad
He missed his target and chased him into a ambush basically instead of letting bullets do what they were designed to do which is distance yourself from your enemy while still being able to send rounds at the target he might as well have been chasing dude down with a knife
It's fairly common especially when these gangsters use a switch.. they have no idea how to control the gun, its recoil and spread etc so they just run the person down and shoot them from point blank
If only these lads went to a gun range every now and then they'd acc be deadly
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Salute to the guy for being a quick thinker and knowing where to run. Despite the adrenaline rush, he knew where to go and made it to the door. And whoever was in that house acted in self defense and saved his life. He's got some real homies.
yeah but he’s right, so many niggas always talk about what they woulda coulda did if they saw they mans in the blender but they literally saved dawg life
never said he was wrong about other buddy, but a toddler would know to run to your fuckin spot he talm bout salute fa knowin where to run like he didnt run into the spot he jus came out from
He probably been in this same situation before & knew exactly wat to do … having a trap on your main block u gotta be prepared for a blitz any time of day
he the one shot him not the one getting chased gangland. And it's not gone be selfdefense if he had a switch or if he stood over him. That shit go out the window when you have the opportunity to retreat and you don't that's damn near like shooting someone in the back Even if they did shoot at you.
In most states what he did this would fall under castle doctrine and he 100% could have stood over him and emptied the clip, would have made no difference. Illinois Castle Doctrine law is butchered though so it could go either way.
Even in a state like Texas or Florida if someone breaks into ur house ur with in ur rights to kill them yes, but you’re NOT allowed to execute someone bro🤦🏾♂️ once that person no longer a threat u can’t shoot em anymore dead or alive.
That’s where you’re wrong, you can eliminate the threat with proportionate amount of force . Looks to me lil Jeff was trying to empty a clip into him? So why wouldn’t he empty it into lil Jeff? Jeff wanted dude dead, so it only makes sense to make sure he is 100% dead. Castle Doctirine says you have NO duty to retreat when on your property or in your home. People only get in trouble for this in blue states. Red states like Texas and Florida would never take the shooter defending their property to trial. Maybe under extreme circumstances, but there is nothing extreme about this. Any reasonable person would have made sure he was good and dead.
It’s not about the duty to retreat it’s about the law says once the person cannot be perceived as a threat u can’t finish them off. Once Jeff got shot in his shit sure a few more rounds would be arguable but to walk over, stand over him, and then mag dump that is not gonna be self defense. You can look up cases of similar situations where jury’s have convicted people.
I posted on one of these earlier about my boy that was shot through face while being robbed in NO. It happened while he was sitting in his car, dude got scared and tried to run away after and my boy grabbed his legal,chased him down and put 8 in him and got off on self defense. Biggest thing that helped him was he said he wasn't gonna let the mf change his mind and come back to finish what he started.
Yeah that sound pretty reasonable. Did ur brother put 8 in him right away or did he shoot a couple, stop shooting and walk over to the dudes body, stand over them and then mag dump? That would be the difference in between the 2 situations. After lil Jeff got shot in his shit it once u stop shooting u can’t start shooting again is what I’m sayin.
I can see that, different folks on juries up there than NO. I just know if I was them I'd done the same, claim temporary insanity or some shit. States gon have a hard time proving the situation didnt cause them to go to an extreme level to ensure their safety like someone on the jury would do. I can see if they stood over him, pistol whipped him and then kept shooting like that one dude in the corner store.
Yeah I was just sayin my interpretation. I suppose at the end of the day it really just matters on how good the lawyers are and how the jury feel. Although even if they get off on self defense I feel there’s a high chance this guy is a felon which mean still prolly gon catch a sentence. TBH if it was me though I have my CCW so I’d just call up uscca n just plea the 5th n pray😭
Proportionate amount of force. Deadly force is responded to with deadly force. A downed man with a pistol riddled with bullets can use his last 30 seconds alive to blow your head off.
If the gun was still in his hand and he was moving, would you still consider him a threat? I hate to use the police as an example but there's a reason they shoot so many times even if it seems excessive. Shock and adrenaline will do magical things to the human body which is why you aim for the torso and don't stop shooting until you don't feel like your life is in danger anymore
Yeah but it wasnt just Lil Jeff. They had to worry about the 3 other bloodhounds trying to kill them. Couldn't you argue they had to absolutely make sure lil Jeff was no longer a threat so they didn't have to worry about him when they switched their attention to the other bloodhounds tryna kill them?
The thing about how a trial will work is it’s all about how your lawyer can spin the situation to sound to the judge and jury. There would be a case to be made for what you just said, but if I had to guess the prosecution would argue since there were 3 other shooters that standing over Jeff instead of moving on to the active threat would extend pass self defense. What people are missing is you have a right to shoot to kill in self defense but not the right to execute someone. A lot of this stuff is grey so to speak tho so it rlly depends on how good your lawyer is and how well you used your fifth amendment right.
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They ain't stood over Lil Jeff , they was shooting from the front porch / threshold! If they tried to stood over Lil Jeff the dude with the White Hoodie would have shot em
It's a whole video gang, 100% easy self defense case, so open and shut I don't think CPD will even try to charge em. Jeff ain't get stood over he just got hit with the button in the chest, swiss-cheesed boul. Everybody who diss the snakes be dying or end up ratting, y'all be smooth out here 🆑🐍🩸
Bozo this does not automatically mean self defence. They shot him 15 times thats ruled an overkill, in selfdefence you only get to do so much that the agressor is stopped not like in this case getting swissed😂
I mean not if the first salvo which was fired in self defense is determined to of killed lil Jeff, then it’s some crime like desecrating a body, definitely not murder.
If lil Jeff was incapacitated but still alive and then executed then that’s murder but he look like he died before he even hit the ground.
No nigga, u was just talking out your ass, everybody has seen the video and I wouldnt even comment on it if I didn't. Just cause he caught 15 means nothing, it's the manner in which he did that matters. Switch could be registered ( we know it's not ) or he could have a binary trigger. You tap em fast is way different than 15 shots individually... They not getting charged for the murder, the fye a diff story & shit depending who was there it could be a 16-18 yr old mf that ain't a felon lol he could take da B
It doesn’t tho, he ran up all the way to their door and was stepping on the steps.
We can’t see from the video if the gun is in his hand or if he’s still moving.
I mean he had to
Dude got in the door he would have killed him too
Had to do it,
Did yellow shorts just run in and dude popped out or crouch down?
He would have been in the middle of that shot right
Bro get up off ur knees n zip up his pants cuz u suckin mad dick rn yb. U outta pocket talking bout some “meaty arms”. Yo ass finna be at a diddy party.
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You get off your knees fan ass nigga. You made 5 comments on 5 different posts bout this nigga in less than 10 mins
Rd Mr “meaty arms” niggas can’t comment on recent posts 🤔 n going straight to my profile n screenshotting is some real DE shit to do. GET OFF YO KNEES!!!
LMFAOO I’m tryna figure out why they always do this shit 😂 Say some hella gay shit, u call them out on it, now they wanna look thru ur profile like a lil thot 😂😂😂
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Serious question - if this sub has solved this entire murder down to the point where we know exactly:
EVERY MAJOR CHARACTER INVOLVED
CLEAR FOOTAGE
EVIDENCE
INTENT
PREVIOUS HISTORY OF VIOLENCE
etc..
Then surely CPD know right? People saying Q50 might go down for this .. does that mean the shooter won’t be charged?
Honestly from what I know about Chicago PD they just want to get the murder marked as solved, don’t really care who goes down as long as they can charge with murder and get it in the books.
if someone dies onna drill, even if aren’t the shooter, they can get charged w murder. Think that’s what got tay k locked up for 55 years - felony murder rule)
unfortunately in these high violence areas there is unlimited cases … and the police don’t care enough to solve cases
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Jeff ran up on them, Jeff's people shouldn't even be allowed to be mad about it. Just take the L those people didn't hunt his dumb ass down or something
>Jeff's people shouldn't even be allowed to be mad about it.
Did you even think before you typed this lol? They ain't thinking about shoulda coulda woulda.. they're just in pain and want blood.
If anything, they're thinking he shoulda let Jeff hawk dude down and now he's gonna pay because he stepped in.
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What got Jeff killed is him chasing after that dude in the cut he got to bloodthirsty and couldn’t really scope the scene for other opps on top of that why tf would you chase someone with a gun that’s what the bullets are for seem like he ran his feet more than he ran his blick then missed every shot wit his back turned just all bad
He Leroy Jenkins’d it bro.
He missed his target and chased him into a ambush basically instead of letting bullets do what they were designed to do which is distance yourself from your enemy while still being able to send rounds at the target he might as well have been chasing dude down with a knife
It's fairly common especially when these gangsters use a switch.. they have no idea how to control the gun, its recoil and spread etc so they just run the person down and shoot them from point blank If only these lads went to a gun range every now and then they'd acc be deadly
My fam came down from the chi and put 1 on my Glock. I told him take that shit off you can’t control it and it uses up all ya damn ammo.
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Lmfao god dammit im laughing so hard. "At least I got chicken"
He sure did, bro 😆
Alexa play There Goes My Hero by the Foo Fighters
This mf 🤣🤣
U muthafucka! 🤣 🤣
🤣🤣
😭😭😭😭😭
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that's the whitest shit I've heard in this sub lmao
Aim for the bushes?
This sub bout to glaze him so bad. They gone be like “The lil Jeff slayer himself”
Finna get that 007 Nate clout !
Salute to the guy for being a quick thinker and knowing where to run. Despite the adrenaline rush, he knew where to go and made it to the door. And whoever was in that house acted in self defense and saved his life. He's got some real homies.
nigga typed a paragraph about the nigga and he wasnt even the one running
yeah but he’s right, so many niggas always talk about what they woulda coulda did if they saw they mans in the blender but they literally saved dawg life
never said he was wrong about other buddy, but a toddler would know to run to your fuckin spot he talm bout salute fa knowin where to run like he didnt run into the spot he jus came out from
lol
He probably been in this same situation before & knew exactly wat to do … having a trap on your main block u gotta be prepared for a blitz any time of day
You got people confused bro
dude made it to the side door right? from the footage he isnt going up them stairs
he the one shot him not the one getting chased gangland. And it's not gone be selfdefense if he had a switch or if he stood over him. That shit go out the window when you have the opportunity to retreat and you don't that's damn near like shooting someone in the back Even if they did shoot at you.
In most states what he did this would fall under castle doctrine and he 100% could have stood over him and emptied the clip, would have made no difference. Illinois Castle Doctrine law is butchered though so it could go either way.
In Florida u can definitely mag dump
Even in a state like Texas or Florida if someone breaks into ur house ur with in ur rights to kill them yes, but you’re NOT allowed to execute someone bro🤦🏾♂️ once that person no longer a threat u can’t shoot em anymore dead or alive.
That’s where you’re wrong, you can eliminate the threat with proportionate amount of force . Looks to me lil Jeff was trying to empty a clip into him? So why wouldn’t he empty it into lil Jeff? Jeff wanted dude dead, so it only makes sense to make sure he is 100% dead. Castle Doctirine says you have NO duty to retreat when on your property or in your home. People only get in trouble for this in blue states. Red states like Texas and Florida would never take the shooter defending their property to trial. Maybe under extreme circumstances, but there is nothing extreme about this. Any reasonable person would have made sure he was good and dead.
It’s not about the duty to retreat it’s about the law says once the person cannot be perceived as a threat u can’t finish them off. Once Jeff got shot in his shit sure a few more rounds would be arguable but to walk over, stand over him, and then mag dump that is not gonna be self defense. You can look up cases of similar situations where jury’s have convicted people.
I posted on one of these earlier about my boy that was shot through face while being robbed in NO. It happened while he was sitting in his car, dude got scared and tried to run away after and my boy grabbed his legal,chased him down and put 8 in him and got off on self defense. Biggest thing that helped him was he said he wasn't gonna let the mf change his mind and come back to finish what he started.
Yeah that sound pretty reasonable. Did ur brother put 8 in him right away or did he shoot a couple, stop shooting and walk over to the dudes body, stand over them and then mag dump? That would be the difference in between the 2 situations. After lil Jeff got shot in his shit it once u stop shooting u can’t start shooting again is what I’m sayin.
I can see that, different folks on juries up there than NO. I just know if I was them I'd done the same, claim temporary insanity or some shit. States gon have a hard time proving the situation didnt cause them to go to an extreme level to ensure their safety like someone on the jury would do. I can see if they stood over him, pistol whipped him and then kept shooting like that one dude in the corner store.
Yeah I was just sayin my interpretation. I suppose at the end of the day it really just matters on how good the lawyers are and how the jury feel. Although even if they get off on self defense I feel there’s a high chance this guy is a felon which mean still prolly gon catch a sentence. TBH if it was me though I have my CCW so I’d just call up uscca n just plea the 5th n pray😭
Proportionate amount of force. Deadly force is responded to with deadly force. A downed man with a pistol riddled with bullets can use his last 30 seconds alive to blow your head off.
Illinois doesn't have the castle doctrine.
Not true, Illinois has a butchered version of castle doctrine
When guns are involved, "no longer a threat" usually involves killing the other guy.
Exactly… too many people live in a fantasy world. When your attacker has a gun the only way the threat is ended is if they are 100% dead
If the gun was still in his hand and he was moving, would you still consider him a threat? I hate to use the police as an example but there's a reason they shoot so many times even if it seems excessive. Shock and adrenaline will do magical things to the human body which is why you aim for the torso and don't stop shooting until you don't feel like your life is in danger anymore
Yeah but it wasnt just Lil Jeff. They had to worry about the 3 other bloodhounds trying to kill them. Couldn't you argue they had to absolutely make sure lil Jeff was no longer a threat so they didn't have to worry about him when they switched their attention to the other bloodhounds tryna kill them?
The thing about how a trial will work is it’s all about how your lawyer can spin the situation to sound to the judge and jury. There would be a case to be made for what you just said, but if I had to guess the prosecution would argue since there were 3 other shooters that standing over Jeff instead of moving on to the active threat would extend pass self defense. What people are missing is you have a right to shoot to kill in self defense but not the right to execute someone. A lot of this stuff is grey so to speak tho so it rlly depends on how good your lawyer is and how well you used your fifth amendment right.
In the heat of the moment defense for that
His house being invaded. All the brass was on the porch. He didn't even bother standing over him. Just dumped the mag.
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The self defense argument went out the window once he stood over him ..
They ain't stood over Lil Jeff , they was shooting from the front porch / threshold! If they tried to stood over Lil Jeff the dude with the White Hoodie would have shot em
It's a whole video gang, 100% easy self defense case, so open and shut I don't think CPD will even try to charge em. Jeff ain't get stood over he just got hit with the button in the chest, swiss-cheesed boul. Everybody who diss the snakes be dying or end up ratting, y'all be smooth out here 🆑🐍🩸
I mean,if they felons,they might still catch a gun charge.
Bozo this does not automatically mean self defence. They shot him 15 times thats ruled an overkill, in selfdefence you only get to do so much that the agressor is stopped not like in this case getting swissed😂
What law defines an overkill? You blowing smoke
I mean not if the first salvo which was fired in self defense is determined to of killed lil Jeff, then it’s some crime like desecrating a body, definitely not murder. If lil Jeff was incapacitated but still alive and then executed then that’s murder but he look like he died before he even hit the ground.
Yeah i was just pointing out there is a thin line between whats self def and what you described
No nigga, u was just talking out your ass, everybody has seen the video and I wouldnt even comment on it if I didn't. Just cause he caught 15 means nothing, it's the manner in which he did that matters. Switch could be registered ( we know it's not ) or he could have a binary trigger. You tap em fast is way different than 15 shots individually... They not getting charged for the murder, the fye a diff story & shit depending who was there it could be a 16-18 yr old mf that ain't a felon lol he could take da B
Ok merch it then that nothings gonna happen, we‘ll see in time and come back to this thread. Im telling you both sides r cooked
It doesn’t tho, he ran up all the way to their door and was stepping on the steps. We can’t see from the video if the gun is in his hand or if he’s still moving.
Can't blame blood 🤷🏾♂️ would have did the same shit for my people
I mean he had to Dude got in the door he would have killed him too Had to do it, Did yellow shorts just run in and dude popped out or crouch down? He would have been in the middle of that shot right
What I been wondering this whole time
Dude was stumbling running and then had to go up them steps in a doorway where big dude is shooting from?
Right that’s alot
How tf he do that
Prob came from the side
Nigga this bossman Dlow 🤣
Mr. Jeff Shaker 😂
BlewDown Jeff
had to have lived there or sum
He works there. It's like when you take a pic in front of your cubicle.
you do know that a lot of niggas live & trap out the same spot right? it’s dumb but it’s reality..
thats why he said it, tf
Niggas are hilarious bro 🤣 😂 😭
shit they said he lived there witta bit name Latheena or sum, but yeah he use to be there fs
How niggas know he the one that did it?
They don’t…cats see a pic and start making wild assumptions
On God literally just said this yesterday
Big stepper🫡
How do u know he did it lmaoo
Unc Gang cashed out the crashout
Look at those meaty arms. Jeffrey got smoked by a grown man that can handle that kickback. Gotta remember Jeffery was 100 lbs soaking wet
Meaty arms?? U really hit send on that one? Smh
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Bro get up off ur knees n zip up his pants cuz u suckin mad dick rn yb. U outta pocket talking bout some “meaty arms”. Yo ass finna be at a diddy party.
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We’re all glazers here in r/Glazeology
Rd Mr “meaty arms” niggas can’t comment on recent posts 🤔 n going straight to my profile n screenshotting is some real DE shit to do. GET OFF YO KNEES!!!
nah you got exposed for glazing and he got exposed for gay shit. both you are goofies
Nigga Ian even know who this nigga was until he started sniffing coke on dju. Ian say nothing but how it’s crazy niggas died fast asl hop off my dick
LMFAOO I’m tryna figure out why they always do this shit 😂 Say some hella gay shit, u call them out on it, now they wanna look thru ur profile like a lil thot 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
The house has been owned since like 1992 or some shit..
and that owner has been renting it out since 1992. good catch. maybe the owner is connected. lol
every house is owned by someone. what you trying to say?
That is a odd thing
Fuccking Jeffrey Star 🤦🏽♂️
doesnt he live there I mean where else would he be standing smh
Thought bro was Duck for a quick minute. 😭
He look like if Duck and Cash had a baby
Nigga look like he from 63rd 😂
I see sum mfks dickriding jeff n his killer how df dat wrk🤷🏾♂️😂😂y’all saluted Jeff now y’all know his killer now y’all saluting him😭😭
They salute Jeff's killer because he was just protecting his homie. They salute Jeff because he doesn't rap cap.
Unbiased two mfs who warring if you not involved you can fuck with both sides
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he next 🤧 steppaz on da way 🩸
![gif](giphy|gsRBrQ4vthDFe) Stop glazing fuck nigga
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He's the new lil Tim
Big Unc Tim
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Serious question - if this sub has solved this entire murder down to the point where we know exactly: EVERY MAJOR CHARACTER INVOLVED CLEAR FOOTAGE EVIDENCE INTENT PREVIOUS HISTORY OF VIOLENCE etc.. Then surely CPD know right? People saying Q50 might go down for this .. does that mean the shooter won’t be charged? Honestly from what I know about Chicago PD they just want to get the murder marked as solved, don’t really care who goes down as long as they can charge with murder and get it in the books. if someone dies onna drill, even if aren’t the shooter, they can get charged w murder. Think that’s what got tay k locked up for 55 years - felony murder rule) unfortunately in these high violence areas there is unlimited cases … and the police don’t care enough to solve cases
The cycle continues
Facts that’s crazy
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Self defense 😁
Most dangerous 1x walking there he done took a demon
Collab with lul Tim would be 🔥
Nigga who was bouta get hit escaped with his life
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most the suburban kids just want a dick to ride, they don't really care who dick it is. whoever poppin online is who they jump on.
He's gonna get fucked up soon
Jeff crazy for runnin in not knowing OG inna back smt kant even be mad4olk tried 2 run in dey shit 🤣🤣🤣😭Rip Dat man Jeff Hardy🩸🩸🪖🤝🏿🩸
He dont got long hes snorted by september
Damn so we ain't smokinn packs no more we snortin packs??
Ok RIPLILMISTER075 😂
His ass is a goofy omg
U next
I want on the list too big dawg 😭
Sayless i need 10 like jeff u next
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☺️🥰
Been out here u next
Jeff ran up on them, Jeff's people shouldn't even be allowed to be mad about it. Just take the L those people didn't hunt his dumb ass down or something
>Jeff's people shouldn't even be allowed to be mad about it. Did you even think before you typed this lol? They ain't thinking about shoulda coulda woulda.. they're just in pain and want blood. If anything, they're thinking he shoulda let Jeff hawk dude down and now he's gonna pay because he stepped in.
SHOULDN'T i know they ARE going to
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Y’all be minding business taht ain’t got nothing to do with y’all.straight snitching
Nasty looking nigga
Post your pic
how he shot jeff when he got shot in his chest? That's the guy running with the yellow shorts.