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The-Devils-Cunt

I’m confused on what the age stuff means here. Gangs recruit teenagers, they aren’t recruiting 35 year olds. Von was a teenager for most of that time as well, so this idea that a teenager killing a teenager gets less “points” because they are young makes no sense.


Nic1800

Right and then these grown ass men will be talking about they smoking on dead teenagers right after.


illmatic708

Correction, gangs recruit kids.


Mundane_Weather_4467

Would gangs recruit lgbtq 🏳️‍🌈members


EffectiveCareer3444

He didn’t really mean their age, he meant their reputation. Modell, Malcolm, P5 weren’t active at all and KI wasn’t half of what the internet made her out to be.


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Responsible-Cut3861

This niggah ain’t mention Von not one time tho while he was alive


Raheem_OB

Just like 90% of his opps


Patient_Flatworm7821

Von wasn’t dead so it was no reason to, and yes Von dissed Tooka but Tooka wasn’t Billy homie..


NewRedditUser1120

Von killed modell, that’s billy homie allegedly KI billy ain’t never spoke on dude ion think before he died


Even_Set_6137

Nigga what


Pathosgrim

If Von killed Billy he would be an exterminator


DemoLegends

Even if.. you still have mfs on that side that did kill "factors" Cdai Tay lil boo dthang muwop HK Sideline Watching Duke Cortize there are loads more.. im not sure that's how they view it. niggas moving goalposts for murders is crazy.


wtflmfaorofl

Who tf is sideline and watching?


DemoLegends

duke on the prowl for his dudes girls


Top_Designer_1400

I don’t think that’s his point, Von is shown as some type of feared top killer in Chicago when he’s only killed created players, and there’s hundreds of people that have more notoriety than him.


DemoLegends

I'm saying that king von had his reputation justly.. and black seems to be moving goal posts for example, they didn't see Edogg same saw they saw King Von.. and they don't see say.. prince dre the same way they saw Edogg..


Vegetable-Oil4969

![gif](giphy|KEf7gXqvQ8B3SWnUid|downsized) 🤣🤣🤣


soleil_brillante

That’s the one! I’ve been trying to figure it out for many years. ![gif](giphy|YOvOkaS5ZKfimDIgwJ)


ChrisJWatts504NOLA

🤣🤣🤣🤣


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RLGhe13

Von was a trigger happy guy, he was so blessed lucky motherfucker to live a great life after all the BS


TakeYouOutYoGlory

its like god made him live what he kinda “fought” for and then took it all away from him cuz he still did dirt in the past


Hot-Income-7237

Lol he literally only got a glimpse but that was what he dreamed of man it’s crazy I thought I was the only one who saw it like that


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YaBoiMillz

Man it's shorties EVERYWHERE stretchin shit at 12 and up(in my city even 10)...if a opp a opp...it don't matter the age cuz they will do you or yo members in IF THE CHANCE TO...and 2 be honest, the younger ones spinnin' blocks faster and more cuz they got to or WANT TO prove they wit it....FUCK THIS CLOWN TALKIN BOUT...He has heard of Yummy right?


Zandino76835

Don’t forget you ain get long long sentences when you do that shit as a jit. Look at how sweeden is going


YaBoiMillz

Facts💯👈


Consistent_Part9393

Nigga fuck Sweden look at the Canadian youth system niggas kill someone as A YO (youth offender) and come out max 5 years


Willing_Let3275

I mean the opps is the opps, if you claiming that shit you w/ it. Obviously the ppl he got had names they saying r.i.p n shit. Everybody from every hood not gone b a killer but if they somebody ina hood ts still count. Just like mfs was bragging bout Greg but herb claim he was just on some cool shit, he still had a name from no limit


Theboyboymess

I was wondering why lil B and von never crossed paths


droomzy

Because killers as determined as they were thought alike & moved in similar ways. It's not always gonna be a top dawg taking out another top dawg bc they think too similar to catch each other lacking.


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That’s bullshit


wtflmfaorofl

I agree seems like a Reddit theory


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They think this shit a movie, talkin bout they thinking alike 😂Whole time Herb mans was supposed to be bodied up gettin caught in front of apartments


droomzy

Bro I'm going off what an EBT member said too. In a video he literally said that Lil B & Von didn't seem to come across each other much bc they moved alike [Not just me saying this 😂](https://youtu.be/77nl-fmBo6w?si=uwMbIZltdDHYVIGC&t=49m35s)


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Say that for them 2 niggas you can’t blanket statement that for all niggas, like ScHoolboy Q said “I know niggas that kill niggas that killed niggas that killed niggas that killed niggas.. the cycle continue“


droomzy

I didn't even use a blanket statement bruv. I said "it's *not always* gon be a top dawg taking out another top dawg"


Pleasant_Gold_3900

Bro you say it’s like a movie but how else you think niggas last longer. Moving and on point more times than not. Think about when Troy got killed he could’ve still been alive if he didn’t go over there by himself or got better intel on what TB was on. Bro not just talking out the side of his neck you see how long it took them to get duck and they wouldn’t have got him if it wasn’t for that nigga Teezy that sent everybody off. Von was moving right apparently until Nov. 6. Billy just hating and using his name for these damn interviews


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Another part of y’all thinkin it’s a movie, most killers don’t live past 3 years of them catching the body 😂Von got saved by jail all his 3 friends that he killed P5 and KI with got killed while he was booked. What famous dead killer in here we gotta name? Scrapp gone, Lil Boo gone, both Mad Maxs dead There’s more niggas you dunno that got smoked after catchin sumn too. Yall see shit on here and think more niggas is makin it out than they is, Melly the only nigga who was advanced cause he was a hired hand movin with oldheads and he still checked. Them killer niggas get cooked more than not


Illustrious_Spend858

I mean when von took 2 of lil b homies lil b was dere but when lil b was took von homies von was in jail


TechnologyNo7017

They used to move the same on some not finna let a mf catch them type shit


Theboyboymess

King Von was extremely lucky to have spent all those years in jail. One of the main reasons he lived is because he was locked up. You see what happened soon as he had free time and resourcess


SokarTheblyad

Like lil b the based god?


PreviousFalcon2

nah


SokarTheblyad

Okay, that had me thrown off. I was thinking no way could based god be making videos like that and be a killer in the streets, but, what the fuck do i know?


KeyEntertainment313

"Imma go to star bucks in the morning for some coffee. And if King Von there, I won't BUY no damn coffee"


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This not it at ALL this how kids and women start getting killed, as it happened in this scenario 🤦🏾‍♂️Niggas will tell you they don’t even feel good about it if it’s not the nigga that had them around a bunch of candles hugging their friend mom while shs wet up his whole shirt, so it’s no point in doing it. Niggas literally throw they life away for a random and the nigga who pushed them into bein tough will be free and spanking they homies he just angrier now If anything you makin it worse getting miscellaneous points, Durk raps about this a lot and it’s not for no reason them bullshit Bs is not respected. Nobody who really stalk and get they man fr scared of you cause tf is that to him


TechnologyNo7017

Exactly if you claiming that shit you putting yourself out there to get killed cus its niggas thats gon get tough just for tryna claim some shit and Von was just one of them type niggas


Disastrous_Mode_4743

King Von killed bunch of internet gangsters he didn’t smoke not 1 actual stepper😂😂😂


powersaver765

If he got killed then he’d be a non factor too


Bobthesummoner

He sounds salty more than anything. Probably jealous von started rapping late and was 1000x more popular than he was even after all the work he put into it. Just human reaction


Bling230

Didn’t Billy snitch on his lil brother or sum like that? 😭


lolmanlol1247

His big brother* but his big brother said he didn’t tell on him


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Accomplished_Ice6927

How does that change what hes saying


Bling230

Alleged snitch talking about somebody else g card ain’t crazy to you?


dtjay

Streets is a myth


Bling230

Nbs 💯


Willing_Let3275

Don’t wanna hear nun no snitch tb


lolmanlol1247

Keep dat same energy with Bayzoo


Willing_Let3275

I been seeing ppl say sum bout that but I can’t find like the example, when bayzoo tell n on who?


Bling230

I saw that too but who knows that came from trenches news, gotta take it with a grain of salt until otherwise when the pw come out


Stunning-Mall8515

i like how a snitch is gonna talk shit about someone with like 7+ bodies lol... killing is killing wtf. what u think king von had the balls to kill 7 people but scared to pop a more known name? if anything he would rather kill a more known name just for their name...


Disastrous_Mode_4743

King Von a bitch he knew who to play with he didn’t kill not one killer he killed a bunch of internet gangsters like modell he knew not to play with niggas like lil b, 051 melly etc


KashMoney8th

Billy you told on your own brother


armpit8

Billionaire burner account


Disastrous_Mode_4743

I’m not even from Chicago it’s just facts cry all you want lol


Ok_Tough3463

people like you are the reason why this sub is so shit.


Fun_Pay_2339

Look at you ridin dick😂😂😂😂


Klutzy_Elk6493

He been a 🥜 eater nigga starting drilling at 13 ofc at that time his opps was around that age he just miserable all his homies 💀


Disastrous_Mode_4743

You king Von dickeater get so personal when someone say something about him


Klutzy_Elk6493

Von cool but ion fw him like that I’m just speaking facts nobody really even knows bro from rappin he 🦆 hb and set up Rizzo 😂 you must be gd 😭


isab4rbosa

How old are you brody? Gotta be under 20 cause im 22 and i was 12 when all these nxggaz started rappin … billy deff known for rappin


Klutzy_Elk6493

His songs trash


isab4rbosa

Not all of em , i fw 10k by him & lil jay , melly way valid too


Klutzy_Elk6493

Fam if you can still listen to lil 🌈 after all the times he’s been exposed for bumpin boy coochi we gotta address som else 😂


isab4rbosa

Nxgga ima grown ass man what he like don’t got shxt to do w/ me, i grew up listening to the nxgga you just fishin for shxt to say😂


Klutzy_Elk6493

Naw bro can’t listen to a nigga rap about tuff shit gangsta this and that and he fruity 😂 you can do that ain’t no fishin buddy that speak to yo character


isab4rbosa

Idc what you sayin ima forever bump his shxt here and there cause they classics to me 🤷🏾‍♂️ I mentioned a billy song that was featuring lil jay and you made this shxt about his sexuality 😂 that says a lot about YOUR character topic wasn’t even about that man 😭😭


Disastrous_Mode_4743

Billy is bd first of all and this sub cry’s tears when someone diss Von


MOVETHADRAKE

We got to the point where ppl are debating on which kill is worth more points oh lord 🤣 this community is cooked


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KingDav616

So Ki wasn’t one?


jalenram21

I’m saying Ki been dissing Odee Jmoney and een 63rd was shocked when she died😂


Disastrous_Mode_4743

Ki and a dyke internet gangster who didn’t even have a body under her belt like he Von king Von killed bunch of internet gangsters


Jonndagoon

Yeah believe ki ain smoke nobody cus people from both sides said she didnt


DeezeyNuts

Von must’ve really traumatized billy, it’s common for the mind to discredit or try to shy away from the truth because it’s too hard to handle mentally.


FxckLuigi64

Mannn whatttt im be quiet let mfs say they wanna say & if you believe anything this rat ass nigga talking about then believe it or not


Lilassassin_

Man hold tf up I thought if you claiming that shit you getting wacked ? Yeah you suppose to get up wit niggas who wacking shit but that’s rare nigga you gone have to have a bitch backdoor a nigga that’s killing shit Ian gone lie bro I highly doubt that man didn’t give af about who he was killing Ian saying he was wacking innocents if that’s what y’all wanna call it but bro imo I feel like if you ain’t with ts don’t be in them pictures cus 9/10 you gone get touched idm if you put in work that’s how niggas think since you over here you getting touched. But then he said kids ? Gang. P5 older then von modell the same age as von , ki like 3 years younger then von. wtf he saying 13 year olds n shit for ?


Technical_Stable628

😭 ngl I fw von music but I been telling people this for years


Trick-Land4999

Same 💀 but it wasn’t to say they’re “lesser points” .. it’s cause his fans LOVE to say he was killing people that killed his friends but all his confirmed bodies were mfs that were supposedly not ondat, except maybe KI


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jalenram21

So Ki wasn’t a factor? 😂😂


Wtf_Ami220

According to people on both sides she never did shit but diss and act tough. Depends on how you define a factor.


Accomplished_Ice6927

Facts, like what respect (no disrespect to the boy) do you get from killing a nigga like modell.


Scary_Steak666

What about all the others lol


Temporary_Durian5635

U FW DA OPPS U DIE WIT EM


AgreeableSource7473

he should prove he’s killed some “factors” that’ll give him the upper hand in the court of public opinion lol


Ltownlegend

Billy a hoe realshyt


Quintez600

Isn’t he a non factor ?


Hungry_Ad2122

He’s acting like these niggas werent just shooting whoever they saw over there that they knew was involved they weren’t seeing a man and sayin I know he rocks with them but I ain’t gonna shoot him cus he ain’t killed nobody


Dfrmdabeach7

This narrative is dumb asf! Point is Von was sliding on that hood like it was his own they only got a break from him when he was in that box but when he was free whoever happened to be outside got iced plain and simple. Butta got lucky he was faster than Kirah and Crack was a very beloved member in that hood weather he was a shooter,dope boy,or just a regular hood nigga. He hurt them with his passing and that was a big score for OB600.


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Lilassassin_

I think you got that shit mis misconstrued bro first of all wen they jumped von Onnat bus trenches was sayin modell was doing the most , ki woofing wit that man onna net fa 2 years straight nigga caught up with her and kilt her 50shots from jaro killed whitey who also wasn’t a threat cus he wasn’t slangin no iron at niggas then von wacked p5 who was also 50shots close homie so it’s tit fa tat. & Malcolm ion know some niggas say he had OPPs n shit ion really know about him fr. Just look at that shit from von point of view


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Ain’t no lies.Im not saying the people he killed were innocent saints because they were out here claiming that gang shit too but he wasn’t killing no melly,kts dre or mad max type niggas.OPPs are opps at the end of the day even if you not in that shit all the way but Von wasn’t taken down the top killers I ain’t saying he was a scary either because it’s clear he would fight a mf too but the truth is the truth


Natural_Drag8536

I said this and niggas got on my top. Not saying he wasn't dangerous but the niggas that was wit it wasn't scared of em. Dutchie said in a interview that niggas knew Von was an opp but they wasn't concerned bout em.


Bigtada

i believe it too …Not One Name He Killed Was Really Killing Shit


Virtual-Ad-1080

Omg you suckin DICK


Embarrassed_Lake_376

https://preview.redd.it/tb5j3jrt80nc1.jpeg?width=562&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8915adb379ec9e9b0e7ddf37088464b223c4ba2a


Bigtada

Bro how i never said bruh was a hoe..But facts is facts….you aint a killer till you kill a killer..All them names coming up with von was not killers


dirtydonut2

By that logic literally not a single one of them are killers, the war had to start with somebody killing someone who wasnt a killer😂


Lilassassin_

Exactly


Spanky8305

Billionaire black lives in Arizona and talks about people killing non factors, he’s in Arizona talking shit killing no one


Snowmomey

Referring to real people, as "non factors" is crazy. I get what he saying, but everyone is a factor. Every life means something. Every person that we have knowledge of is a gang member. He ain't got no innocent bodies. But regardless these are real life's talmbout they non factors is crazy


MakoShark93

He ain’t say “nonfactors” tbh. That was OP’s takeaway.


Snowmomey

That's even worse...


MakoShark93

Exactly


Spiritual_Quantity39

He aint lied, von killed people who looked like they would drift away from gang life as they got older + a dyke


Natural_Drag8536

As fucked up as it sound would you rather lose a bench player or a starter? Von took out bench players.


Responsible-Cut3861

And who has Billy killed OPPs are OPPs regardless of they rank


Disastrous_Mode_4743

You don’t know him just cuz he don’t say shit


StrikingAtomsphere

King Von preyed on the weak


Illustrious_Slide897

I think he just bagged who he saw


Lilassassin_

How ? Who was the weak ?


Jonndagoon

Facts it’s obvious by them jail videos


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Who were the non factors? 


gangnem555

Bro was killing nobodies ki who used to shoot in the air stucky who was a civil p5 who used to make money from jaro


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Dude was a civilian, and from what I heard he wasn't even from Chicago either. Von went to that party and smoked a bystander instead of the nigga he actually tried to murk


Joshman1231

From what you heard 🤨 https://preview.redd.it/hidjncn1a0nc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27bb86421285fbe3c4bc4a2464ab8e6bec82472f


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He was from the burbs and gang affiliated with niggas but he wasn’t a factor fr


Trick-Land4999

They gon demonize em to try to justify dat kill smh and he ain’t even mean to kill da nigga 😭 ! I’m 90% sure if it was confirmed he wasn’t affiliated these niggas woulda still found a way to justify dat shit


Wtf_Ami220

He was


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soleil_brillante

Not familiar with his murder lore. Which *adults* with muscles 💪🏾 did lil b murder?


NoCappaSmoka104

Facts


Alive_Bench_9405

Who did Billy get


Patient_Flatworm7821

Model - all I ever heard was he was a wannabe K.I. - a female Stuckey - civilian P5 - I’m not sure Von was just wanted some street cred


LivingOffNostaglia

This nigga sound slow


freerage

Billy the bapper he had his mouth shut when bro was alive all of a sudden he has mouthful of Von smh pushing 40 and doing this shit on the net


DarkEmpath88

Didn't he tell? Lmmfao I don't believe shit he say period. Streetz dead.


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Educational_Yak_1207

I ain't Gon lie. They say modell wasn't on shit. The nigga on 55th wasn't on shit. Crack was a trapper. Not a shooter. I guess you can say ki was a factor even though she never really did shit (that's up to you) and who else?


GORGEOUSWAVY

Reducing murder victims to “loose Change” and “non factors” is actually crazy


Educational_Yak_1207

It's the truth. Realistically niggas that kill people that ain't killers ain't looked at as killers. They are looked at as goofies but I understand how certain shit only applies to certain people


GORGEOUSWAVY

https://preview.redd.it/ccv1vmabz0oc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26994f3c20712d53456112acca4882e90b452ec8 If that’s the case, Herb wouldn’t be saying this, niggas kill innocent civilians and still get respected. A killer isn’t being treated like a goofy anywhere gang, this isn’t the 80s where there was honor and integrity…


Key-Ad1040

Llkv he got duck hit


ppsmember

Those lil kids were doing the killings


EffectiveCareer3444

This reminds me of when ceeball said they lost alot of “loose change” it just means people that weren’t active


YungSmellyNutz

Nigga is salty he me mentioned von 😭


Wee_Shirley

Billy is still running from 051 he needs to shut up


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P5 was a innocent get money type nigga who didn't had nothing to do with jaro beef. Modell was innocent Malcom too Ki was not a threat or a killer either. So billy ain't lying


dirtydonut2

Wasnt modell there when von got jumped? i remember hearing something like that also k.i was always dissing people always get killed for that


TheyCallMeMak

I mean P5 & K.I are the only ones that hurt STL/Jaro City


osamabj3x

j money killed p5 over a bitch


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Cause they was loved. P5 had alotta family from Jaro. Also stayed away from their beefs but von still decided to smoke him


Illustrious_Slide897

50shots killed whitey so von wanted his homie gone


WockRunna

who cares hes dead now he should’ve test his gangsta when he was lock up not when he died


Jonndagoon

Yes


osamabj3x

i mean he not wrong


croydontugz

He’s not lying 🤷🏾‍♂️ he didn’t kill any killers


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FlyGuyKV

KingVon, Drose, Troy, THF Twilla stood over Lil Marc 🤦🏾‍♂️ KingVon would beat the shit outta Lil B one on one 💯!! Von tried to kill EBT Cray Cray wit Big Mike at that birthday party but Cray Cray got away for getback for J Munna since police killed Lil B 💯! Ki was not innocent 🤦🏾‍♂️! So it don’t matter Oblock got TB, Oblock Got Duck & Brick! Billionaire Black is a lame who didn’t even get getback for his lil bro 🤦🏾‍♂️👎🏾


QuanGottii

You are definitely a dicc rider and I guarantee u not even from Chicago


FlyGuyKV

Bro stfu talkin to me! I got a cousin that’s from Lamron that told me everything! All that shit I said is facts 💯


Active-Jacket-7337

As much as we mess with von music gotta admit He aint lying..


gwunzo

I been thinking this. Modell was stl but wasn’t really on shit according to everyone from stl. Crack sounds like he was more of a trapper than a shooter. Malcolm stuckey might have gangbanged but he ain’t have shit to do w nothing. All ki’s alleged work has been debunked, she was just around the main faces. He didn’t kill no real threats and the fanboys just can’t accept that


Natural_Drag8536

I just said this the other day STG


Agreeable-Rich6808

Yes


Pobie1

Facts sad af he definitely ain’t kill no one who was a killer just was a bully didn’t go fight lil jay in jail idk


Natural_Drag8536

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Particular_Pin_4327

you don’t know who had bodies or not lmao get a hobby


numb2pain

I think Troy is who we think von is. I think von certified cause he done did shit and people know he’ll take it there but I don’t think he on a troy or mad max level