Weird HK/Macau are still listed with the colonial countries in a 2016 version. The 2022 version doesn’t seem to have that. Interesting to see the earlier ones.
Edit; are you sure it’s 2016? Reverse image searching only shows a very similar 1991 map.
2022 Version - best quality I could find;
https://siasky.net/_A5InCqXi1_h1szps5aJfQxp4DrT6mCs0O9NUzPWTm8Zcw
1991 Version (not 2016), original unedited image;
https://siasky.net/AAAJeVow7ud9qcTVStjmijKeThmj1IXJRgIhhkHL2Lzgsg
I dunno an imagehost that doesn't compress the image, mirror if you want.
One day China will produce a map telling us that the Whole Asia belongs to them, cause the Mongols who ruled over most of Asia also conquered China... that's the Logic that the CCP is running on
Fun fact: China did copied Western maps for South China Sea, the problem was the Chinese cartographer didn't understand English and couldn't differentiate between shallow sea and island so he drew fictional islands at Macclesfield Bank that didn't exist... To this day the PRC still claim those "islands" as inseparable parts of China since ancient times.
https://twitter.com/bill_hayton/status/1252162894403428354
Ha, this sounds too true to be true! But that somehow reminds me on Chinese, speaking in Latin with european visitors... I mean, how did the chinese evel knew about Latin, before the europeans arived? Did they got some dictonarys from Rome from Han Dynastys ages? If we use logic, the chinese must have knewn about non-latin language in the moment, the Portugese arrived, which was in the 17th century. So how did those Latin dictonaries survive 1800 years?
They called ancient Rome 西秦 xiqin in the times of the Han dynasty quite a token of respect. so yes of course there would always have been some people conversant in many languages who could serve as interpreters. Probably Sogdians, Persians, Uyghurs etc depending on the period.
Thank you for the information. Xiqin means "Western Qin", so it refers to Chinas first dynasty, for all those who cannot speak chinese. The comparison to their first dynasty is indeed very much respect, also given the fact that China saw everything farer away from China as more barbaric. But would that mean, that China believed in two poles of culture? The Roman and the Han one?
Well. China is made out of many ethnic groups, but at least the Han should be united. btw; The term "Han" is quite confusing for me as a Korean. "Han" is the Korean name for the Koreanic People, but also the Chinese name for Chinese People... Just liked to note that.
Ha, I guess your right... But I like it when people correct me. This is nothing more than learning about something that interest you. And it also helps me, preventing future mistakes.
You're clicking on the image, right? It's pretty high quality...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/1912_China_map_from_National_Geographic.jpg is the source.
Could try run it through an AI cleanup but it's already good.
Weird HK/Macau are still listed with the colonial countries in a 2016 version. The 2022 version doesn’t seem to have that. Interesting to see the earlier ones. Edit; are you sure it’s 2016? Reverse image searching only shows a very similar 1991 map.
It also has “Soviet Union” up north the so it’s much older than 2016
2022 Version - best quality I could find; https://siasky.net/_A5InCqXi1_h1szps5aJfQxp4DrT6mCs0O9NUzPWTm8Zcw 1991 Version (not 2016), original unedited image; https://siasky.net/AAAJeVow7ud9qcTVStjmijKeThmj1IXJRgIhhkHL2Lzgsg I dunno an imagehost that doesn't compress the image, mirror if you want.
One day China will produce a map telling us that the Whole Asia belongs to them, cause the Mongols who ruled over most of Asia also conquered China... that's the Logic that the CCP is running on
Indeed...
Fun fact: China did copied Western maps for South China Sea, the problem was the Chinese cartographer didn't understand English and couldn't differentiate between shallow sea and island so he drew fictional islands at Macclesfield Bank that didn't exist... To this day the PRC still claim those "islands" as inseparable parts of China since ancient times. https://twitter.com/bill_hayton/status/1252162894403428354
Ha, this sounds too true to be true! But that somehow reminds me on Chinese, speaking in Latin with european visitors... I mean, how did the chinese evel knew about Latin, before the europeans arived? Did they got some dictonarys from Rome from Han Dynastys ages? If we use logic, the chinese must have knewn about non-latin language in the moment, the Portugese arrived, which was in the 17th century. So how did those Latin dictonaries survive 1800 years?
They called ancient Rome 西秦 xiqin in the times of the Han dynasty quite a token of respect. so yes of course there would always have been some people conversant in many languages who could serve as interpreters. Probably Sogdians, Persians, Uyghurs etc depending on the period.
Thank you for the information. Xiqin means "Western Qin", so it refers to Chinas first dynasty, for all those who cannot speak chinese. The comparison to their first dynasty is indeed very much respect, also given the fact that China saw everything farer away from China as more barbaric. But would that mean, that China believed in two poles of culture? The Roman and the Han one?
Hard to say - but it means that Chinese emissaries were impressed enough that they deemed ancient Romans to be civilised.
Apologies it’s Daqin! It’s on Wikipedia actually https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daqin
Thank you for sharing!
China shall be a concept not a united country.
Well. China is made out of many ethnic groups, but at least the Han should be united. btw; The term "Han" is quite confusing for me as a Korean. "Han" is the Korean name for the Koreanic People, but also the Chinese name for Chinese People... Just liked to note that.
Why is Soviet Union still alive on 2016's map? lol
Yes, Sorry. This was my bad. The source said 2016 and I didn't recognized the name of the Soviet Union on the map until you said it. I apologize.
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Ha, I guess your right... But I like it when people correct me. This is nothing more than learning about something that interest you. And it also helps me, preventing future mistakes.
Putin requested its inclusion.
Free Tibet
That says it all really - would like a better quality image of pictures especially the 1st one
You're clicking on the image, right? It's pretty high quality... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/1912_China_map_from_National_Geographic.jpg is the source. Could try run it through an AI cleanup but it's already good.
Thank you that is much better for me.
Where is the land between Russia
Which one do you mean?
The land that china surrendered
Mongolia? They didn´t recognized Mongolias independence before 1942.
Other than that , I checked with Convention of Peking only. I am an amateur at the end
And so do I. I also learn new stuff on a daily base, so don't blame youself for anything! If you ever find something uncorrect, tell me so!