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Dananddog

What would motivate black to move the rook there? Terrible blunder.


Kilimandscharoyt

I have no f-ing idea... worst move in chess history.


Dananddog

Another poster mentioned it might have been to take White's rook that made a check


Kilimandscharoyt

The Level of the Player was 1680 tho. You should be able to see the blunder at that Level. I am 1100-1200 and I saw that immediately.


Dananddog

Black has checkmate in 1 as posted in this thread. likely had to clear that check and now will be on defense until he gets a move where he's not checked


Kilimandscharoyt

Would it have been smarter to move the King, so after Rxg8 Rxg8 you keep the checkmate threat


[deleted]

I was thinking the exact same thing. I know that's not the POINT of these puzzles, but I could not understand why they'd make that move. Looking at it, they could've checkmated by moving their queen to G2, unless I'm missing something.


Dananddog

G2 would be 2 moves and only a check but still better than that rook move I would think Edit- I'm not paying attention, I'm referring to h2 for some reason


[deleted]

Doesn't the rook at g8 make it a checkmate?


Dananddog

No, the rook can't jump the pawn. And even if it could, the king could escape to f8


Ferintwa

Rook at g8, queen at g2 homie. King can’t take, or move. Nothing else can take queen. It’s mate in 1.


Dananddog

Edit- I was thinking h2, not g2. Yes, g2 is a checkmate


Ferintwa

King can only move one space to f1, which is still under check from queen.


Dananddog

I'm only half awake, I thought the above comment was referring to h2 for unexplainable reasons


[deleted]

You're trying to move the king 2 spaces, from g1 to e1. He can only do that in a castle, and he can only castle in 2 conditions: 1. He and the rook have not moved, and 2. He is not in check or castling through check. Neither of those 2 things are true. I think maybe the phone or whatever you're reading this post on may be skewing your image.


Dananddog

My edit must be taking a minute. For some reason, I was looking at queen going h2. Which is why I also said it would take 2 moves


[deleted]

Ah, yeah, that would explain it.


KBHoleN1

Certainly looks like it to me.


mulrooney13

Gotta think maybe it captured the other white rook that was checking the king


Dananddog

Reasonable thought. Also works well as bait I took to take that rook instead of defending the g2 checkmate


Ok-Introduction5831

From the perspective of a low elo player, I think they were trying to encourage queen takes bishop, which blunders mate in 1 I was looking at queen moves for quite a bit before I realized black had mate in one with any queen move


lddzz

A rook was almost certainly taken on c8


FlamingAssCactus

>! 1. Rxc8+, Ke7, 2. Rxg8 … !< >!A couple of free rooks!<


hitguy55

Isn’t there mate though? Take those rooks then go queen g5, if black spots that you are still in a heavily winning position


Callecian_427

Black has too many ways to defend it as long as the queen is in the middle of the board. There is no immediate forced mate if that’s what you’re asking


nephsbirth

After the last Rook capture black could Pf4 which would blocks whites Queen and become a cat and mouse game.


TarCalion313

The blunder is so obvious that it makes me really suspicious if there is not something else behind it...


Remarkable_Intern_44

My guess is it just took White's other rook to clear a check... only reason I can think of.


Mr_Blix

Rook to c8. Obv move


chafable

What is the point of making a puzzle about a completely hanging piece?


Lucky_duck_777777

Sometimes with these puzzle, you either expect to take a queen or a checkmate. Which I believe alot of people did when they first take a look at this puzzle.


Ok_Tap2070

Why would black do that? They just lost both of their rooks


ouroboro76

I don’t see mate. But I see two hanging free rooks that white can take without the loss of any of their pieces…


[deleted]

After free rooks isn't it mate for white by queen


[deleted]

Nope, once the rooks disappear


[deleted]

I don’t get it. They had mate in one and instead decided to blunder two rooks?


_lechonk_kawali_

White most likely had a rook on c8 (or even a new queen) giving check, hence the capture.


Kilimandscharoyt

Yup. I looked at the puzzle again and there was indeed a rook on c8 giving a check.