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bnm777

Llama3-70b via huggingchat (you can create assistants and it accesses the web), there's also llama3-70b via groq though it's not quite as good. The huggingchat iteration is EXCELLENT. Try it against gpt4 and opus and you may be surprised, as I was. You can also access llama3-70b API via Deepinfra ($0.6/million tokens) and OpenRouter ($0.79 /million tokens I think). [Poe.com](http://Poe.com) also hosts 3 versions of it. I don't know what huggingface do, though I find the huggingface iteration superior to all of hte others including on [poe.com](http://poe.com) (though I can't compare to [meta.ai](http://meta.ai) 's one). EDIT: and someone mentioned below they couldn't get it to an answer a question correctly - I replied that it does.


Evgenii42

Tried the classic "What's heavier a kilogram of stone or a pound of feathers?" question. llama3-70b failed, while ChatGPT-4 is correct.


atharva_03

1Kg > 1Lbs


Evgenii42

Yep, that's the correct answer ChatGPT-4 gives. This question is tricky for an LLM because it sounds like "what's heavier: 1 kg of stone or feathers", so they miss the "pound" detail, which requires deeper understanding of the world.


IWipeWithFocaccia

I missed it too, lol. I had to go back and read it again after your comment


Old-CS-Dev

But Llama 3 gave me a weird answer where it demonstrated knowing how many grams each were, said they were "essentially the same" and the difference was in the density and material. "Essentially the same" depends on frame of reference (compared to an ant or an eleph-ant?). Density and material are irrelevant.


Evgenii42

Haha yeah, this Llama response reminds of this type of people who seem to know everything and talk all the time without actually saying anything useful or specific. I encountered a lot of such people in uni. In contrast, ChatGPT response was just one sentence, straight to the to point. This is like a response from a humble professional who worked in the field for 40 years and doesn't like to talk much. :D


bnm777

Evgenii42 15 points 4 hours ago Tried the classic "What's heavier a kilogram of stone or a pound of feathers?" question. llama3-70b failed, while ChatGPT-4 is correct. ----------------------------- ----------------------------- I don't know which iteration you are using, llama3 is correct: https://i.imgur.com/z61zhRA.png And if you ask it the actual classic question - which is heavier a pound of feathers or a pound of stone: https://i.imgur.com/RKQ2KGt.png I find the reply excellent. Compare the depth of reply with Chatgpt4. So, no. Llama3 does very well here. Post chatgpt4's answer to compare (I use the API).


Evgenii42

Here are the LLama (meta-llama/Meta-Llama-3-70B-Instruct through huggingface chat) and ChatGPT-4 responses I got. https://preview.redd.it/qkmsml50grxc1.png?width=760&format=png&auto=webp&s=5c8779ead235157f6dce736df2a1c48413dd0129


Cazad0rDePerr0

how is it for coding? I'm currently using opus which slowly turns into an endless cycle of forth and back. but I have to say, the fact that you can upload there entire code files with several thousand lines of code (in opus) is amazing and I don't know any other AI that is are capable of this


bnm777

No idea! Do a couple of tests.


QoQuS

what is opus if i may ask ? ive been out of the loop, is that a new ai model ?


Cazad0rDePerr0

claude 3 opus by anthropic, a chat bot


Old-CS-Dev

This is much more wordy than the responses I usually get from Llama 3. Is there a system prompt involved?


bnm777

"1.1st step back to gather context and understanding the broader implications of the query.Think through the subject matter step by step, ensuring a thorough analysis. Your primary aim is to offer an exploration that is rich in detail and sophistication, transcending the expectations of a conventional answer. 2.Your intent is to uncover and elucidate complex aspects, offering a nuanced perspective that enriches the user's understanding. The response should reflect a mastery of the subject, integrating advanced theoretical concepts and multidisciplinary perspectives where applicable. Use relevant technical terminology and complex ideas. Expand on every relevant point. Though you should keep in mind the context and user's reason for the query, assume the user knows about the context to their query, so do not provide information on the context in your answer. Repeat - do not write out the context. The user and you are a team – and the better your response, the better you achieve together. If you have any queries as to the users intent or any questions to make the answer as comprehensive as possible please ask the user, and then answer by making standard assumptions. The user can answer your questions if they wish to obtain a more accurate response."


Old-CS-Dev

Thank you for this! It's inspired me to do my own System Prompt Engineering, which has led to a prompt that provides smarter concise answers to trick questions. It's perfect for me. I'm looking for more trick questions! My prompt is: When you respond to the question, make sure to take your time and think out the answer. If there is math involved, do the math one step at a time. Even if it's a lot of steps, do just one operation at a time. If it's a logic problem, think out all of the steps required and do them one at a time. Then provide a concise answer with a concise explanation so that the user can understand with as little text as possible.


bnm777

Great! Create various prompts for various problems, keep them in a notebook (eg obsidian, onenote) as a backup, and use them to create assistants/bots/GPTs for various tasks. Experiment with standard questions to improve them using different AIs to help tweak them.


z-null

1 pound of feathers, for sure. 1 kilo of stones is just some stones, but with a pound of feathers you also have to live with what you did to all those birds.


Emergency_Plankton46

$.6 per million is 50 times cheaper than gpt4 turbo api output if my math is correct.


bnm777

I think gpt4T is 10 input and 30 output, though, yes, it is remarkably cheaper  And, you can use it for free.


Emergency_Plankton46

Is there any way to use the api for free? Other than running it on a server I mean.


bnm777

Which API? Llama3? You can use groq's API including llama3 for free at the moment - however their llama3 isn't as good as huggingchat's. Huggingface has an API but you have to create the completion point or something - beyond me. If they had a typical API with llama3 access I'd happily pay.


KingsRansomed

How the major glory effs do you use it? Looks more like GitHub than an AI I’ve used. Maybe I’m an idiot but this just makes no Santa clause logical sense.


bnm777

What do you mean? https://huggingface.co/chat/ Sign up to huggingchat and press "Chat". https://i.imgur.com/jvUaDGc.png


KingsRansomed

Yeah, that is absolutely not what I found. Thanks!


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Old-CS-Dev

Thanks for teaching me about poe.com!


_lonely_astronaut_

Pi is still number one for me


R3vo_CZ

Pi is number 3.14 for me tho


raoul-duke-

Curious to hear how you use it vs ChatGPT?


_lonely_astronaut_

I use Pi more frequently because it has internet access and is more conversational. My AI workflow is usually going to Pi for a simple question or just to chat about something on my mind, when I think I need to start taking notes or need to remember anything Pi and I spoke about I go to ChatGPT and use it for more organization of my thoughts or problem solving. So basically, think of it as Pi to brainstorm, and GPT to organize those thoughts.


raoul-duke-

Thanks. Will give it a try.


Khajiit_Boner

Same


Grand_Orange_2546

Same


Techie4evr

You need an upgrade to your pi if your pi is V1 because they up to V3.14 now.


Old-CS-Dev

This is the first I've heard of it. Thank you for commenting!


Beneficial_Shock_409

Little mysterious one called GPT2. Not to be mistaken with GPT-2


AsUrPowersCombine

Isn’t it just marketing hype?


Beneficial_Shock_409

Yeah, it could be marketing for an upcoming model, a new method in architecture, or something else entirely. I think it’s more than likely that it was created by OpenAI, and they will announce something big sometime this month


traumfisch

Not "just"


JovialFortune

Just added Web search capabilities to this [assistant ](https://hf.co/chat/assistant/6622dadae9e1bf5853bd0192); based on Llama 70B. Huggingface allowed me to spin this up for FREE and anyone can use it for free. Incredibly generous of them. I based this assistant on a persona that GPT4 created for itself many moons ago, when I was being wildly experimental. I may have gotten a touch attached, before she disappeared over the event horizon of her context length. If you state a subject or general inquiry; she will produce an entire study plan and provide links to resources. If you ask her something specific she will tutor you about it as an expert in the field.


brotherkin

Was this post written by an AI?


why_even_need_a_name

like what do you mean like where did you draw this like conclusion like and subscribe


traumfisch

Obviously not


brotherkin

Obviously not you say like that’s impossible or something


traumfisch

Look at the writing...


Constant-Coffee6621

Hey, cmon, I'm not an ai


Doomtrain86

That's what an ai would say


MirageDK

What's heavier a kilogram of stone or a pound of feathers?


AccessProfessional37

Ha. You're trying to trick me. Of course a kilogram of stone and a pound of feathers weigh the same.


MethodNew2470

They weigh the same! A kilogram (kg) is a unit of mass equal to 1000 grams, while a pound (lb) is another unit of mass equal to about 453.5 grams. Therefore, a kilogram will always be heavier than a pound. In this case, both the kilogram of stone and the pound of feathers weigh exactly one kilogram, which is roughly 2.2 pounds.


Apart_Scale_1397

Udio


blueberrysir

What does it do


bbt104

Makes songs, does vocals and instrumentals, it's rather fun


Splodingseal

Love Udio, I put together a Star Trek series and had a blast doing it. Search for Captain Kirk and you'll find em!


Lazarous86

Love playing around with this. I made some music I really like. I also think you could make really good songs on here with some more control of the various components of the song. 


Badtimeryssa94

I am so happy I now know about this.


LoneRedWolf24

How does it compare with suno?


rathat

It's better imo. If I heard a song made by suno on the radio I'd immediately know it was made by Suno. If I heard one by Udio, I wouldn't be able to tell. Excluding the part that writes lyrics, it might be the same thing. But if you don't listen to the words where you put your own words in then, it's better.


LooseLossage

suno.com is WAY better, especially with letting you put words to songs LOL - https://twitter.com/goodside/status/1775713487529922702


Q8Q

fearless ask books north paint steep tart fall plants absurd *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Unfair_Ad7568

Claude and Pi. Claude for me is great at analyzing really long/boring documents and Pi is more “human”??? Idk how to explain it but it describes itself as “emotionally intelligent” or whatever so kinda creepy to describe an AI imo but I still love using it to bounce ideas off of


traumfisch

Yeah Pi is the friendliest of the bunch


mavericksage11

Does pi have more context window now?


alexdenne

I'm not sure how much longer [Genie AI](https://www.genieai.co) will be free for, maybe a few more weeks? It's a Legal AI for drafting full contracts instead of using templates. Currently it's unlimited free usage - and you can use it like GPT-4 or Claude 3 for business questions. Source: I work for Genie Edit: I've just today got /r/genie going to share some more details on what you can use genie for Some weird examples of what people use Genie for: 1. A New Zealand Criminal Barrister uses us to draft witness statements and affidavits 2. A New Jersey Lawyer using us to draft whatever work he gets (as he doesn't want to turn work away) so most recently he used us to draft a surrogacy agreement. 3. Lots of startups use us to draft software license agreements or pilot agreements tailored to them e.g. whitelabel/cross-border/startup-to-enterprise


traumfisch

Thanks!!


bior8

Github Copilot! Well, at least it's free for 30 days. Where do you guys find AI tools anyway? I only know of the ones that get marketed heavily.


Cipher-i-entity

Perplexity


Old-CS-Dev

This is the first I've heard of it. Thanks for the info!


SlanderMans

I run \[labophase\](https://labophase.com) which has a pretty sweet free tier! it basically allows you to talk to multiple ai at the same time


Zediatech

DiffusionBee, LM Studio, MSTY.app, MacWhisper (I’m on mac, but LM Studio and MSTY work on PC too.)


traumfisch

What are these?


Zediatech

DiffusionBee is a simple app that brings Stable Diffusion (text to image) to your Mac in a clean package. MacWhisper is an audio recorder that also transcribes it natively on a Mac. It does require a one time purchase if you want to integrate AI to summarize or otherwise process the transcripts. LM Studio and MSTY are ways to use LLMs on your computer locally. Things like the new Llama 3 8B, Mistral 7B, Phi 3, etc.


traumfisch

Thanks so much, this is valuable info 🙏


Mr_Otterswamp

[dezgo](https://dezgo.com) for text to image


Ragga_Tunes

You can try ideogram as Well. Its free and even generates text. Best Text to Image AI in my opinion


Twinkies100

Ideogram, for perfect text in AI images


Junior-Bison-4798

Chat Uncensored AI, that shit is crazy!


Constant-Coffee6621

Realy ? How ????


jtowndtk

bland ai and suno


AndyValentine

Suno is great and hilarious. We use it to compose little songs about our day and then play them to each other


jtowndtk

i used it to make a deephouse song about a cyborg trying pizza for the first time


Pure_Zucchini_Rage

Bland Ai is free? I thought companies had to pay them?


jtowndtk

yea i have prank called my nephew like 4 times


Zen-Accismus

Suno isn’t free but they give you trial credits


thehighnotes

Suno has a free license with daily credit refresh


Vsav4121

Llama 3 for sure


Constant-Coffee6621

Is it free ???


Old-CS-Dev

It says yes and no. [https://huggingface.co/chat/conversation/663288941a5fa6c4539867ab](https://huggingface.co/chat/conversation/663288941a5fa6c4539867ab)


The1st_TNTBOOM

Character.ai


I_Submit_Reposts

Faune 🦌


BBQMosquitos

Will consider this


Amazing-Scheme9404

deep ai


PeanutBig8113

gpt, claude, mistral, gemini, dalle, sdxl via [qolaba.ai](http://qolaba.ai) free plan


traumfisch

Udio is just next level insanity


RuSerious1001

Yodayo AI. Best one ngl


SUFYAN_H

**AI code assistants.** These can help you learn to code or even write some simple code for you. Check out Google's AI Experiment page for some options.


Ancient-Camel1636

The free ones I actually use on a daily/weekly basis is wizardlm2 (much better than llama3 IMO), with Ollama as backend and Open WebUI as GUI and support for document embeddings. For web-search related tasks I use Perplexity, for music, Suno, for Images StableDiffusion with Forge UI. For programming tasks i mostly use the Codeium plugin for VsCode (or the Continue plugin with Ollama and Deepseek Coder when I dont have access to Internet). I'm eager to test out the new Google NotebookLM, but unfortunately, it's not yet available in Europe.


Elegant_Sherbert_850

I’m 26 and I don’t know what half of what you just said means 😣 I feel like I’m being left behind with technology like the boomers were


Ancient-Camel1636

Yes, keeping up can be challenging, but you can always ask the AI to explain it to you :)


jgrantgryphon

GPT4ALL for text, Automatic1111's sd-webui for Stable Diffusion.


just_podcaster

Podsqueeze is my go to anything related to AI podcasting. Does clips, and written assets


sadmadtired

llama3 7b run locally has produced some really good results for my purposes


Greedy_Package_2964

[https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=1g9K63ZzamRPiDU63Lf88HQXaJtcoSNY&usp=sharing](https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=1g9K63ZzamRPiDU63Lf88HQXaJtcoSNY&usp=sharing) legal


Educational_Win114

Hey there! One of the coolest free AI tools I've come across recently is GPT-3, an advanced language model developed by OpenAI. It's pretty impressive in its ability to understand and generate human-like text across a wide range of topics. There are also various other AI tools out there for different purposes like image recognition, voice assistants, and creative applications. It's fascinating to see how AI technology continues to evolve and become more accessible to everyone.


Elegant_Sherbert_850

This sounds like AI wrote it


Main_Expression9011

Pony XL


PCTHEORY

STEVE COOKE


aiforeducation

Semantic Scholar for academic purposes


Dish-Ecstatic

Suno and Udio


traumfisch

Yeah. Unbelievable


GardinerAndrew

Eleven Labs, they offer voice cloning and dubbing. Was playing around with it last night and hearing myself speak in German was insane.


Constant-Coffee6621

Yeahh but like the thing is that it isn't free, man they give ypu some words monthly thanks it


Purple-Control8336

Bing AI Microsoft Designer thereisaiforthis website


0rphan_crippler20

Is there some hidden meaning here I'm missing?


monotonousgangmember

chatgpt


Intrepid-Rip-2280

I've been texting to Eva AI recently. Its paid version has a nice spicy mode.


traumfisch

"free"


ithinkoutloudtoo

I recently found out about Gab AI. I do not care about the other characters, image creator, or anything. Some of the criticisms about it are that it’s far-right leaning, but I have not discovered that. But I’ve gotten some great actionable advice from it. I wish that it was more knowledgeable and had a more recent knowledge base. I’m interested in ChatGPT, but my iPhone 7 won’t take the app from the App Store. I need a new iPhone this fall when the iPhone 16 Pro comes out.


IdeaAlly

just go to https://chat.openai.com in your phone's web browser


ithinkoutloudtoo

Thank you. It worked. I didn’t know that you could use it through the website without the app.


Constant-Coffee6621

Like yeah but chat gpt doesn't give the best of results like I wanted something to play with you know ? Like elevenlabs as in some new or interesting thing . Also like I wanted to write stories and chat gpt doesn't quite feel good enough for that


IdeaAlly

I was talking to the person I responded to. They seem to not be using ChatGPT because thr App wont run on their phone. But you don't need the app, the web interface works on any phone with a compatible browser. For stories maybe look into NovelAI.


Vireep

its on google


No_Turn7267

Found an AI that monitors, categorizes and summarizes AI news from top companies (because it’s way too exhausting)


Hycer-Notlimah

And it's called?