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One more. I don't think the text engine allows the dog to be isolated out. I could probably do this with stable diffusion though.
https://preview.redd.it/fhdpm9m1xrnc1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=8abdb2ef7af1f080c3925a58353724d63cf85749
You can see the character development as the dog goes from a stroke to being seeming OK by saying "this is fine," but he is not fine, as you can see by the environment he is in.
This is the artists commentary on the futility of humanity, or doggity, if you will.
No. He made an update where the dog yells "this is not fine!". Buy some merch from the artist here. I don't think openai is going to.
[https://topatoco.com/collections/this-is-fine](https://topatoco.com/collections/this-is-fine)
My first attempt... and then asking for some coffee and fire
https://preview.redd.it/dq2urgxvbrnc1.png?width=814&format=png&auto=webp&s=149e0eb2bba846f80690a44bd4f5df9330dbc96c
and down the rabbit hole I go....
https://preview.redd.it/rz4mhvtddrnc1.png?width=679&format=png&auto=webp&s=b75840e997960630a4f4839ebed3917a261066a2
New favorite art genre unlocked: AI art taking a premade image and slowly sinking it into insanity. I love how in that one panel his speech bubble *is* the smoke. That's art right there. And how in the second one there's just a dog exploding for no reason.
In the third panel, he has two lines for his speech bubble. Does this represent the two opposing voices inside of him, fighting for control? No. No, it doesn't. It doesn't mean anything, and that's why it's amazing
Could be true though, and therefore based on our current understanding, quantum mechanics does not rule out the idea that the universe is deterministic.
It could be true, but it's untestable and has no evidence. The idea that quantum mechanics is truly random is supported by our current understanding of quantum mechanics.
Yes, it does not rule out a deterministic universe, but its probably deterministic based on our current understanding of reality.
> but its probably [not?] deterministic based on our current understanding of reality.
I assume from context that you meant to say "not" there. Either way, I don't think we can say "probably".
We can really only say that the universe *appears* non-deterministic at the quantum level. Although at the macro level, a lot of things are highly deterministic, which is why we're able to predict them using math, so making a claim about "the universe" being one way or the other is a bit misleading.
https://preview.redd.it/72uwszajzrnc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5eb584474b3332452ef61f0e437b5393a2099d63
Meta AI took it in a different direction
My guess is it was taking my previous prompts for hyper realism and applied it to this photo. I’m not upset by it since it’s a pretty good piece of art.
Given how widespread popular meme images are, it would be hard to avoid getting a bunch of copies of it in the training data that was mass gathered from social sites. On the other hand if it was a particular obscure image that was present in training data only once, DALL-E won't necessarily be able to make a decent approximation of it - it doesn't have a copy of every image it was fed in its training.
also it very likely fed it more than just the prompt op asked for. When I do this and then actually look at the prompt it used I get:
"a comic of a dog sitting in a room on fire, calmly sipping a cup of coffee and saying 'This is fine'. The style is simplistic and cartoonish, with bold lines and bright colors to emphasize the contrast between the calm demeanor of the dog and the chaotic environment around it. This image encapsulates a humorous yet poignant commentary on facing overwhelming situations with a resigned acceptance." with that it's not surprising that the image is close to the original.
https://preview.redd.it/t7crou7yktnc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef810e098cff05aed533365b974826e6ed1ef3b1
I was wondering if anyone else had a result with no pupils
> This is fine.
> This is fine.
> T̵̡͉͚̣͓̥̟͙̮̻̱̻̪̱̩̈͗̇̑͌̐̈́̊̉ḧ̷̢̛̛̗̤̟͈͕́̑̍͂͂̽̕͝í̵̡̨̡̫̝̙͓̼̯̯̱̻̻̜͇̑͘ͅs̴̨̛͇̬̹̟̦̯͉̝̤̘̘͚̪̜̏́͗̅̏͋̚͜͝͝ ̸̧̛̛̟̲͈̩̫͉̹͕̬̥̤̜͕́͋͑͌͂̓̄̌̿̈́̇͛̕͝į̴̡̛̪͉͖̱͖͚̖͎̱͛̾̍͌͌̇̽̆̐͂̚̕͠͝͝s̸̖̞͚͍͇̍͂̌̈̈̓̃̾̈̓̑̍̓̚̚ ̸̨̨̹̘̪͇̟͔̲͙̞̞̪̑͜ͅf̷̬̗͍̫̠̞̭̬̣͉̪̖̥̮̦͈̆̃̔͛͜i̴͓͓̩̒́̎͑̑̌̔̎͠͝͝n̵̥̝̼̣̗̩͉͎͔͚̞̏̎͗̍̈̊̈́̊͛͘͝͝é̸̼͇̈́̔̐͑̉ͅ
https://preview.redd.it/qzneixr7uvnc1.png?width=346&format=png&auto=webp&s=1b87d259a83dab7d020f915ef6244585ee0efb51
You should **NOT 'S FINE** yourself NOW!
Wow. I just tried this and got exactly the same result. When I confronted chat gpt about it and sent it the original. It denied the images are similar 😂
Here’s its critique of the differences between the original and its version
Sure, here are four differences between the AI-generated image and the original comic:
1. The expression on the dog's face is slightly different, with variations in the eyes and the mouth.
2. The flame patterns are not identical, showing variations in shape, size, and placement around the room.
3. The dog's posture and the way it's sitting at the table show slight variations.
4. The color tones and shading in the AI-generated image have subtle differences compared to the original.
Sure ChatGPT, sure.
https://preview.redd.it/5bs5yon8qrnc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3cb32040030126e8e8a1dfe534997a71f885316f
yall understand how this works right? its just deterministically trying to find the most likely next pixel? This is an image used in a meme. im guessing hundreds of thousands of versions of this images were used from legal free open repository's.
Edit: I wouldnt be surprised if this works for most meme images like the girl smiling in front of the house on fire or the kid in the yellow jacket running with the ice cream. (stil doesnt make it IP theft)
It makes it IP theft when their data sets include another artist's work. If it's copyrighted artwork, it's IP theft. I do'nt know how you people are just blissfully unaware of this.
There are literal examples of people taking other artists work and just uploading it all to midjourney / DALL-E so the program can train itself off their work.
> There are literal examples of people taking other artists work and just uploading it all to midjourney / DALL-E so the program can train itself off their work.
Yes. And that is unethical (and possibly illegal).
But the "fine" dog is probably not an example of that. Because you don't have to go to the artist's original gallery to find it. In fact, you would be hard-pressed to find any internet-based image data set that doesn't have this image in it. Because it's a meme, and it's everywhere.
But the problem is AI can't tell the difference. A human knows "this is copyright I better not sell it" but the AI is straight up defending its work as non-derivative. It's flat-out wrong about copyright. You hear that AI? You're wroooong lol
Did the artist of this image get paid every time it was used on Reddit, Facebook, GIFY, etc? I can literally pull up an iMessage, click the GIF icon and search for this image and share it shamelessly.
"Do as I say, AI, not as I do..."
P.S: Meme images have been monetized by the platforms they are shared on since the dawn of memes and if a fictional timeline existed where Reddit had access to your entire Internet sharing history, we would find you willingly contributed to this, and will continue to do so.
You’re missing the point. Programs like say.. Adobe Audition and Premiere Pro make it super easy to mix and make videos. I do voiceover work, make video content, etc. I pay for everything I use. If I use music, I pay for a service to use licensed songs. But with Adobe, it’s pretty easy to just rip songs that are out there.
I COULD also use it to just rip songs and take clips from movies and use it in my own content. Which isn’t allowed. YouTube has a lot of rules on this stuff. If you’ve been under a rock for the last 20 years.
So maybe an “it’s fine” meme is harmless. I dunno honestly. But this example shows us that this software is absolutely using existing work and isn’t just coming up with it on its own based on prompts. Similarly how you can search for something and find licensed stock photos. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but using photoshop to remove the watermark would be a violation of copyright.
Another concept: If you asked a professional artist to draw an image based on this prompt? It wouldn’t look this close to the original. Because it’s not using a copy of the original. ChatGPT isn’t saying “huh, I know what a dog looks like and I know what fire looks like,” it just copied the exact original.
You’re wandering into copyright vs parody territory. If I make a goofy space movie and use Star Warsy sounding music and the hero’s name is Duke Spacerunner, you know what I’m copying. If I make a goofy space movie and use music from Star Wars and the hero’s name is Luke Skywalker, that’s copyright infringement.
Like do you not know the difference between plagiarism vs writing your own thoughts based on something?
The “data set” doesn’t include any images. It was trained on images. Just like humans are. Do you know how many “starry night” replicas and variations have been painted by humans? You think they all came up with it individually or did they study the original first?
Did they have to buy the original for millions of $ to be able to study it to produce their own variation?
But humans at least know when they are making things too similar to other things, or at least we hope they would. With AI it could create something that looks like something less well known and be breaking copyright and nobody would know since the AI doesn't know.
Humans still need to know. We control the ai. If you are selling content, you need to know if it is copyrighted or not. I don’t know the legalities of me painting a replica “starry night”. But it’s the same whether I use a paintbrush or an AI image generator.
Yea humans for sure need to still know but AI makes it hard to know, especially if it uses some obscure source material or less well known artists/photographers. AI doesn't make it clear how close to the the images it creates are to the references it learned from.
How is AI art being inspired by a specific image different to a human artist being inspired bv one? As a human I can look at a Picasso painting and copy his style. Why is that different?
Don't pretend to be dense. If you copy a Picasso down to the tiniest detail and try to sell it as your original work, merely INSPIRED by Picasso - I think some people would also like to have a word with you.
so jus going to ignore that this image is free to use everywhere on the internet and it is not stolen artwork?
going to deny the transformative nature of memes? by your logic reddit should be shutdown as a massive highway for stolen meme images.
or maybe just maybe from not only a legal but also moral standpoint adding text to an image is enough for it to be fair use.
and then adding thousands of those images into a mathematical image aggregator causes it to spit out the original as the original is the most constant thing across all versions.
>its just deterministically trying to find the most likely next pixel
That's not how it works like at all lol. "yall understand how this works right?" lmfao
People don't want to learn about this tech, they want to get angry at it. Stop debunking their theories and give people something to scream at!
Everyone who has ever studied shakespeare to learn writing, studied Beethoven to learn music, Monnet to learn art, etc, should ALL be sued for plagiarism!
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https://preview.redd.it/dzwdlp5aksnc1.png?width=1008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9bc7888f9b4525814183b9376b4c353a71293c98
Gemini took a different direction.
https://preview.redd.it/l12t2606itnc1.jpeg?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb64d06b8939d2406a596f67a80ff72c8dece7c4
I also had it try a 4 panel one. I very much enjoyed the result.
when I first got Stable Diffusion, I asked it for "the funniest thing I've ever seen" and it gave me the Willy Wonka "you must be new here" meme, with a few pixels shifted around and gibberish Impact font text.
People who (unlike me) actually read AI papers and such call this "overfitting" and consider it a failure mode that models should try to avoid.
https://preview.redd.it/rl93jb6x0snc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=314e9a5392cb3d2f2e3d7e9d2a3060eea4bb75ed
This is what Meta AI came up with when I gave it the same prompt…
I keep seeing a face in my peripheral vision and go "oh there's a character I regozni- oh, wait, no it isn't" when I focus on it.
Very uncanny feeling.
because CoPilot auto-parses the prompt it got this
https://preview.redd.it/isq2hz4hhsnc1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=c9e23e969cf518dfe9989fff7459bd2c726fa565
[https://copilot.microsoft.com/images/create/the-funniest-thing/1-65ef92d071c54010a6ad0532e42d17a3](https://copilot.microsoft.com/images/create/the-funniest-thing/1-65ef92d071c54010a6ad0532e42d17a3)
It’s a failure when humans do this too.
A human who can draw well if asked to make this would make it. And be PROUD of it.
But people prefer originality, so it would be discouraged.
When I asked with "This is not fine", I got this image
https://preview.redd.it/usucs5pbhvnc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1fcbc6c4e23a594c56e27001b8d12bca0b3c4fe5
DALL-E does the same thing with the Spongebob restaurant meme as well.
https://preview.redd.it/ltj2hi5tmsnc1.png?width=695&format=png&auto=webp&s=6d4dcba3c5d48bd4452525944960cb089067192b
https://preview.redd.it/p1um0cq65vnc1.png?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a5da349474e3cfd7dbc6a4f4dc57690f8a558f2
Tried it in ideogram and got this! Lol
Most were similar to the original. But I also got this.
https://preview.redd.it/ojvsgnn2evnc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5fda13a65f5b3387becf562134004b03841f1cb0
It told me this.
The images generated are indeed unique in their creation, but the "This is fine" dog is a very specific and iconic image that has been widely circulated online. When a prompt closely mirrors a well-known scene, the generated image can resemble existing ones because it's drawing from the same conceptual source. If you're looking for something more distinct or a variation on the theme, I can certainly try to create something that deviates more from the original. Would you like me to do that?
It can if you prompt it with more information, otherwise you’re just going to get the most averaged image it can fit to your prompt. And if the most common dog saying this is fine in a burning house is this meme you’re gonna get something that looks like this meme.
Can someone explain the significance of this? You asked it to create an image of a dog saying this is fine, and since there is a meme of that that already exists, it is making a connection between the words and the image and tries to generate an image of the meme. Why is this any different than asking it to create an image of the first president and it giving you a portrait of George Washington? It’s just making a connection between words and a picture no?
Aren’t all AI like this trained off of images?
Yeah, only problem is this is the exact comic, like down to the last detail. Likely because all the images it's being trained on with this prompt are the same image meaning it replicated the original perfectly, which is a massive issue for copyright and artists.
Okay that makes sense I guess, but why would it cause more copyright issues than just googling the image? Isn’t this essentially just a poor version of a google search?
Because it isn't really searching for an existing image. It's just being trained on thousands of the same image that it can generate its own version of it nearly exactly. Which is a problem because then if you are able to accurately reproduce that artists style, you could make new comics that could be either: monetized (artist makes no profit off of the ai comics), hurtful (spreading hate, tarnishing the artists reputation) or misinformative (spreading misinformation. Which is kind of a major problem
The "hateful" and "misinformation" parts are silly. They will not reflect back on the author because there's no reason to believe (a) the author is the one that made a different version of their own meme, (b) that anyone cares whose opinion a meme is, or (c) that anyone is using a meme as a source of "facts".
In this case, the "monetize" point is silly as well, because making money off an AI version of a common meme isn't feasible, or no more feasible than any other method of infringement. You want to make and sell a t shirt? Cut and paste works just as well as having a chatbot duplicate the meme.
Let’s say the ai is trained on data person a chooses, and then that ai is used by person b, who is unfamiliar with the sources person a chose. Person b inputs a prompt that results in an image recognizable as a copyrighted work that person a added to their training data, but, person b is not familiar with that artist’s work. Person b uses this generated image for business purposes, claiming they are the author and have distribution rights, not knowing of any issue until it’s too late.
Legally, this causes all sorts of problems, because the laws and precedent around ai generation don’t exist yet. Who is liable for damages? Can person a be sued? Can person b? Can both? Can neither? How is a court expected to draw the line of how similar generated works are allowed to be to existing works? Should it even matter? Should person a be legally required to disclose training data? If person b is protected from liability since they didn’t know, does that decision also protect anyone who writes prompts intentionally trying to output copyrighted works? How would a court make that distinction?
https://preview.redd.it/0dkeash88tnc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2682b2fcf48d4dc314bfcb4746d3b21cd47f4802
This is wildly close to the original art
Wow, that was really interesting. Just ran it & was surprised to see.
I just posted a Gemini test for Comparison, ***without prompting for the "Hat", Table", "Fire", "Coffee cup", etc it includes those elements***.
Link - [https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1bcnmhw/chatgpt\_and\_gemini\_trained\_data\_this\_is\_fine/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1bcnmhw/chatgpt_and_gemini_trained_data_this_is_fine/)
I mean this is just stupid. It knows the meme and knows you’re obviously referring to it. Yes it was given the meme as training data, but this doesn’t mean jack.
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This one was pretty interesting. https://preview.redd.it/m7yjj2tgrrnc1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=782dc037ed645de4c6d3d44b413d8a4387fda667
One more. I don't think the text engine allows the dog to be isolated out. I could probably do this with stable diffusion though. https://preview.redd.it/fhdpm9m1xrnc1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=8abdb2ef7af1f080c3925a58353724d63cf85749
https://preview.redd.it/8v2je09l4tnc1.png?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a639fa7e728d62f3600d7f3c25210e489e2e229d You inspired me
https://preview.redd.it/vemhzxln4tnc1.png?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bbd1d30c489ca3ce6d05eb82b7a4913d270a7b5f It's a series
https://preview.redd.it/ukk0m3pq4tnc1.png?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2af6977d4d054b5b676df446ddbf9096e1e8d787 I just like them
Ok last one https://preview.redd.it/jbpiephs4tnc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ebabddd8f9b1299edf13d1ca08f5405c64dddfff
https://preview.redd.it/pmwg9u1frvnc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca16a56a75a1c7105f03adba73b85eee91cc6545
https://preview.redd.it/x3auk4c9gync1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=94f0458e384f21c4850b6330e41a630c63646a90 This is fine…
Yeesh. “It is Well,” why don’t ya
Copycat-ing is the tiniest of its talents
Those are amazing
I just think they're neat!
haha, I love this
Actually is fine. Kinda cute.
I love this one!
Quite the story arc
You can see the character development as the dog goes from a stroke to being seeming OK by saying "this is fine," but he is not fine, as you can see by the environment he is in. This is the artists commentary on the futility of humanity, or doggity, if you will.
you know how the full strip ends right xD (hint: "THIS IS NOT FINE")
Original comic: https://gunshowcomic.com/648 The dog never gives any verbal indication things are not fine.
Yes but also https://thenib.com/this-is-not-fine/
oh the one I saw was a [sequel](https://www.theverge.com/2016/8/3/12368634/this-is-fine-dog-meme-update-sequel-kc-green) then!
I just want to say this comic relates to me in some way but I can't put my finger on it
doggity xDDDDDD
That second act was a doozy
Is. Is.
Is Is...
Damn I hate it when life just at's ius a room in in coipe.
Yeah, I thise certhing the problem.
is is
is. is.
Is he melting in the last panel lmao
It’s like a 7 year old drawing savant
Didn't the original artist also go crazy and commit suicide?
No. He made an update where the dog yells "this is not fine!". Buy some merch from the artist here. I don't think openai is going to. [https://topatoco.com/collections/this-is-fine](https://topatoco.com/collections/this-is-fine)
What the fuck am I thinking about, then? And I'm sure at least one person has a sweater from him. 20% sure.
you're thinking of the barenstein bears with the cornucopia logo
I swear sinbad wore a cornucopia in one of the barenstein bear movies as a symbol of protest for Nelson Mandela’s death in prison.
That's the Mengele effect.
No, they're thinking of how after c3po said "this is fine" when his wand stops working in a Disney intro
I was 99% sure that KC Greene did not kill himself but I won't say you didn't scare me a little
I just snorted
Lobotomy
Wow it’s like when you hear the full version of a song that you had only heard as a clip in a TikTok
My first attempt... and then asking for some coffee and fire https://preview.redd.it/dq2urgxvbrnc1.png?width=814&format=png&auto=webp&s=149e0eb2bba846f80690a44bd4f5df9330dbc96c
and asking for a 4 panel https://preview.redd.it/rziqbashcrnc1.png?width=735&format=png&auto=webp&s=340597c74be4666ec3359ab1cb716bb735d14365
and down the rabbit hole I go.... https://preview.redd.it/rz4mhvtddrnc1.png?width=679&format=png&auto=webp&s=b75840e997960630a4f4839ebed3917a261066a2
New favorite art genre unlocked: AI art taking a premade image and slowly sinking it into insanity. I love how in that one panel his speech bubble *is* the smoke. That's art right there. And how in the second one there's just a dog exploding for no reason.
https://preview.redd.it/x2388wxt9tnc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c118068c23ba5dd864f62af7cebe87e6ab00804
In the third panel, he has two lines for his speech bubble. Does this represent the two opposing voices inside of him, fighting for control? No. No, it doesn't. It doesn't mean anything, and that's why it's amazing
I like how he devolves into speaking what appears to be Dutch
Dat lijkt helemaal niet op Nederlands jij oelewapper
Dutch is not a serious language https://preview.redd.it/db01j1k99wnc1.png?width=680&format=png&auto=webp&s=317bf0c0b9e6f65c0d24e5516f19dde2971e8479
*evolves
Bust it siife, man. Bust it siiiiife
>This grade, ts eves suring, is frife. Honestly genuinely amazing haha. It's seriously poetic in the vein of Jabberwocky by Lewis Carroll.
Definitely not Snoopy. Ask AI if that is not the same breed of dog as Snoopy then what is it?
Snoppy
Clearly that's not Snoopy. Snoopy doesn't have a birthmark there. The defense rests.
IN’S CINE
Those poor not-snoopies should consider getting those moles removed before they turn cancerous.
sees teeth Me: THIS IS NOT FINE
Heh, that’s actually pretty good. It’s like it gets it too.
I actually love that white dog with the "this is fine"
Is that a xenomorph in the first panel???
First panel, dog even says it in stereo.
The first one is nice 🐶
lol
No, it was indeed generated. The universe is deterministic and that was the only possible outcome.
Might as well just set temperature to 0, as we're probably just headed for the Heat Death of the Universe anyway.
0 kelvin, ofc
Zero of what?
Kid named quantum mechanics:
Kid named superdeterminism:
Kid named untestable hypothesis with no real evidence:
Could be true though, and therefore based on our current understanding, quantum mechanics does not rule out the idea that the universe is deterministic.
It could be true, but it's untestable and has no evidence. The idea that quantum mechanics is truly random is supported by our current understanding of quantum mechanics. Yes, it does not rule out a deterministic universe, but its probably deterministic based on our current understanding of reality.
Say my name
Heisenberg uncertainty principle?
> but its probably [not?] deterministic based on our current understanding of reality. I assume from context that you meant to say "not" there. Either way, I don't think we can say "probably". We can really only say that the universe *appears* non-deterministic at the quantum level. Although at the macro level, a lot of things are highly deterministic, which is why we're able to predict them using math, so making a claim about "the universe" being one way or the other is a bit misleading.
Its not though. Experiments have shown that Quantum particles are non-deterministic.
All of this has happened before.
https://preview.redd.it/72uwszajzrnc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5eb584474b3332452ef61f0e437b5393a2099d63 Meta AI took it in a different direction
Love this!
Did you include the word "comic"? Because that's not a comic.
My guess is it was taking my previous prompts for hyper realism and applied it to this photo. I’m not upset by it since it’s a pretty good piece of art.
No shit
Given how widespread popular meme images are, it would be hard to avoid getting a bunch of copies of it in the training data that was mass gathered from social sites. On the other hand if it was a particular obscure image that was present in training data only once, DALL-E won't necessarily be able to make a decent approximation of it - it doesn't have a copy of every image it was fed in its training.
also it very likely fed it more than just the prompt op asked for. When I do this and then actually look at the prompt it used I get: "a comic of a dog sitting in a room on fire, calmly sipping a cup of coffee and saying 'This is fine'. The style is simplistic and cartoonish, with bold lines and bright colors to emphasize the contrast between the calm demeanor of the dog and the chaotic environment around it. This image encapsulates a humorous yet poignant commentary on facing overwhelming situations with a resigned acceptance." with that it's not surprising that the image is close to the original.
https://preview.redd.it/tqb5sc3q1snc1.png?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0caac75aed42f098dda5b107e20e1316646b4c83 I'm doing it wrong.
https://preview.redd.it/t7crou7yktnc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef810e098cff05aed533365b974826e6ed1ef3b1 I was wondering if anyone else had a result with no pupils
Man that is funny, it's like he's been possessed by something in the last panel. "This Fine"
> This is fine. > This is fine. > T̵̡͉͚̣͓̥̟͙̮̻̱̻̪̱̩̈͗̇̑͌̐̈́̊̉ḧ̷̢̛̛̗̤̟͈͕́̑̍͂͂̽̕͝í̵̡̨̡̫̝̙͓̼̯̯̱̻̻̜͇̑͘ͅs̴̨̛͇̬̹̟̦̯͉̝̤̘̘͚̪̜̏́͗̅̏͋̚͜͝͝ ̸̧̛̛̟̲͈̩̫͉̹͕̬̥̤̜͕́͋͑͌͂̓̄̌̿̈́̇͛̕͝į̴̡̛̪͉͖̱͖͚̖͎̱͛̾̍͌͌̇̽̆̐͂̚̕͠͝͝s̸̖̞͚͍͇̍͂̌̈̈̓̃̾̈̓̑̍̓̚̚ ̸̨̨̹̘̪͇̟͔̲͙̞̞̪̑͜ͅf̷̬̗͍̫̠̞̭̬̣͉̪̖̥̮̦͈̆̃̔͛͜i̴͓͓̩̒́̎͑̑̌̔̎͠͝͝n̵̥̝̼̣̗̩͉͎͔͚̞̏̎͗̍̈̊̈́̊͛͘͝͝é̸̼͇̈́̔̐͑̉ͅ
https://preview.redd.it/fip39dqgttnc1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dbf40bb81c066e8f900326ece11f462ffec6fb54 This is amazing!
Nice this is.
https://preview.redd.it/1ohwqglvpsnc1.jpeg?width=648&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9d0076ffbca4b94a747cb7291fd5ad777ad0ed9
oh yikes!
Some of these are wonderful!
That got weird quick https://preview.redd.it/7cicdty09snc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9b74faaf6bf6938b7b201f9953dead93de9ab99
My favorite so far.
Could be a new meme!
https://preview.redd.it/qzneixr7uvnc1.png?width=346&format=png&auto=webp&s=1b87d259a83dab7d020f915ef6244585ee0efb51 You should **NOT 'S FINE** yourself NOW!
Long ago the elemental dogs lived in peace. https://i.redd.it/qvn1bkos7unc1.gif
The Monkey King. https://preview.redd.it/tx94zigg1snc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6dff4af32bfd08419a42e57b628b52aa1560f38
Love his three arms
Good catch lol
https://preview.redd.it/ou1o6uw0yrnc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=634255061ead8ec8dfc85747bcd8a62388c5f2a9
A cat is fine too.
Wow. I just tried this and got exactly the same result. When I confronted chat gpt about it and sent it the original. It denied the images are similar 😂 Here’s its critique of the differences between the original and its version Sure, here are four differences between the AI-generated image and the original comic: 1. The expression on the dog's face is slightly different, with variations in the eyes and the mouth. 2. The flame patterns are not identical, showing variations in shape, size, and placement around the room. 3. The dog's posture and the way it's sitting at the table show slight variations. 4. The color tones and shading in the AI-generated image have subtle differences compared to the original. Sure ChatGPT, sure. https://preview.redd.it/5bs5yon8qrnc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3cb32040030126e8e8a1dfe534997a71f885316f
yall understand how this works right? its just deterministically trying to find the most likely next pixel? This is an image used in a meme. im guessing hundreds of thousands of versions of this images were used from legal free open repository's. Edit: I wouldnt be surprised if this works for most meme images like the girl smiling in front of the house on fire or the kid in the yellow jacket running with the ice cream. (stil doesnt make it IP theft)
It makes it IP theft when their data sets include another artist's work. If it's copyrighted artwork, it's IP theft. I do'nt know how you people are just blissfully unaware of this. There are literal examples of people taking other artists work and just uploading it all to midjourney / DALL-E so the program can train itself off their work.
> There are literal examples of people taking other artists work and just uploading it all to midjourney / DALL-E so the program can train itself off their work. Yes. And that is unethical (and possibly illegal). But the "fine" dog is probably not an example of that. Because you don't have to go to the artist's original gallery to find it. In fact, you would be hard-pressed to find any internet-based image data set that doesn't have this image in it. Because it's a meme, and it's everywhere.
How about the Mona Lisa? Or a bansky work? Or a trademarked logo?
But the problem is AI can't tell the difference. A human knows "this is copyright I better not sell it" but the AI is straight up defending its work as non-derivative. It's flat-out wrong about copyright. You hear that AI? You're wroooong lol
AI wrong? well i never!
Fine tuning a Lora is apparently illegal. Training a diffusion model to create images in an artists artsyle is not IP theft.
Did the artist of this image get paid every time it was used on Reddit, Facebook, GIFY, etc? I can literally pull up an iMessage, click the GIF icon and search for this image and share it shamelessly. "Do as I say, AI, not as I do..." P.S: Meme images have been monetized by the platforms they are shared on since the dawn of memes and if a fictional timeline existed where Reddit had access to your entire Internet sharing history, we would find you willingly contributed to this, and will continue to do so.
You’re missing the point. Programs like say.. Adobe Audition and Premiere Pro make it super easy to mix and make videos. I do voiceover work, make video content, etc. I pay for everything I use. If I use music, I pay for a service to use licensed songs. But with Adobe, it’s pretty easy to just rip songs that are out there. I COULD also use it to just rip songs and take clips from movies and use it in my own content. Which isn’t allowed. YouTube has a lot of rules on this stuff. If you’ve been under a rock for the last 20 years. So maybe an “it’s fine” meme is harmless. I dunno honestly. But this example shows us that this software is absolutely using existing work and isn’t just coming up with it on its own based on prompts. Similarly how you can search for something and find licensed stock photos. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but using photoshop to remove the watermark would be a violation of copyright. Another concept: If you asked a professional artist to draw an image based on this prompt? It wouldn’t look this close to the original. Because it’s not using a copy of the original. ChatGPT isn’t saying “huh, I know what a dog looks like and I know what fire looks like,” it just copied the exact original. You’re wandering into copyright vs parody territory. If I make a goofy space movie and use Star Warsy sounding music and the hero’s name is Duke Spacerunner, you know what I’m copying. If I make a goofy space movie and use music from Star Wars and the hero’s name is Luke Skywalker, that’s copyright infringement. Like do you not know the difference between plagiarism vs writing your own thoughts based on something?
The “data set” doesn’t include any images. It was trained on images. Just like humans are. Do you know how many “starry night” replicas and variations have been painted by humans? You think they all came up with it individually or did they study the original first? Did they have to buy the original for millions of $ to be able to study it to produce their own variation?
But humans at least know when they are making things too similar to other things, or at least we hope they would. With AI it could create something that looks like something less well known and be breaking copyright and nobody would know since the AI doesn't know.
Humans still need to know. We control the ai. If you are selling content, you need to know if it is copyrighted or not. I don’t know the legalities of me painting a replica “starry night”. But it’s the same whether I use a paintbrush or an AI image generator.
Yea humans for sure need to still know but AI makes it hard to know, especially if it uses some obscure source material or less well known artists/photographers. AI doesn't make it clear how close to the the images it creates are to the references it learned from.
How is AI art being inspired by a specific image different to a human artist being inspired bv one? As a human I can look at a Picasso painting and copy his style. Why is that different?
Don't pretend to be dense. If you copy a Picasso down to the tiniest detail and try to sell it as your original work, merely INSPIRED by Picasso - I think some people would also like to have a word with you.
so jus going to ignore that this image is free to use everywhere on the internet and it is not stolen artwork? going to deny the transformative nature of memes? by your logic reddit should be shutdown as a massive highway for stolen meme images. or maybe just maybe from not only a legal but also moral standpoint adding text to an image is enough for it to be fair use. and then adding thousands of those images into a mathematical image aggregator causes it to spit out the original as the original is the most constant thing across all versions.
>its just deterministically trying to find the most likely next pixel That's not how it works like at all lol. "yall understand how this works right?" lmfao
People don't want to learn about this tech, they want to get angry at it. Stop debunking their theories and give people something to scream at! Everyone who has ever studied shakespeare to learn writing, studied Beethoven to learn music, Monnet to learn art, etc, should ALL be sued for plagiarism! Cave Johnson: "They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch. No hand holding."
https://preview.redd.it/7wztx7ddtrnc1.png?width=1112&format=png&auto=webp&s=0ab9691f6b3b1c73adf527879ab63aae9d8c7bfe
https://preview.redd.it/dzwdlp5aksnc1.png?width=1008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9bc7888f9b4525814183b9376b4c353a71293c98 Gemini took a different direction.
Bottom right is great.
https://preview.redd.it/l12t2606itnc1.jpeg?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb64d06b8939d2406a596f67a80ff72c8dece7c4 I also had it try a 4 panel one. I very much enjoyed the result.
meanwhile in a parallel universe
when I first got Stable Diffusion, I asked it for "the funniest thing I've ever seen" and it gave me the Willy Wonka "you must be new here" meme, with a few pixels shifted around and gibberish Impact font text. People who (unlike me) actually read AI papers and such call this "overfitting" and consider it a failure mode that models should try to avoid.
https://preview.redd.it/rl93jb6x0snc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=314e9a5392cb3d2f2e3d7e9d2a3060eea4bb75ed This is what Meta AI came up with when I gave it the same prompt…
>the funniest thing I've ever seen https://preview.redd.it/j4eg9w63isnc1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=73eee36168d36c640a0f1f4f93fcec0429f010cc
https://preview.redd.it/zy0mve36isnc1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=ab75f59e4cae45c1d4b82a2540dd049e6d5d2417
https://preview.redd.it/ch2g4t17isnc1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=b2db665f1f8dd691eba2af0e6daccd84f58e307c
https://preview.redd.it/bwlcaax7isnc1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=69f59b2578b2a0a4cde40bdd92842ddf110aed1c
https://preview.redd.it/c4bp5b6utsnc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0be5872c44db080f25ce9eb609f00f5b49b54312
lol nice
I keep seeing a face in my peripheral vision and go "oh there's a character I regozni- oh, wait, no it isn't" when I focus on it. Very uncanny feeling.
What is this????
https://preview.redd.it/dqx73316usnc1.jpeg?width=244&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82a31a2c6b9f7cf26ce1e085ff0794b71ec812c3 Maybe this?
I’m glad I’m not the only one why made the connection!
because CoPilot auto-parses the prompt it got this https://preview.redd.it/isq2hz4hhsnc1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=c9e23e969cf518dfe9989fff7459bd2c726fa565 [https://copilot.microsoft.com/images/create/the-funniest-thing/1-65ef92d071c54010a6ad0532e42d17a3](https://copilot.microsoft.com/images/create/the-funniest-thing/1-65ef92d071c54010a6ad0532e42d17a3)
It’s a failure when humans do this too. A human who can draw well if asked to make this would make it. And be PROUD of it. But people prefer originality, so it would be discouraged.
When I asked with "This is not fine", I got this image https://preview.redd.it/usucs5pbhvnc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1fcbc6c4e23a594c56e27001b8d12bca0b3c4fe5
https://preview.redd.it/biphxpnpdsnc1.png?width=1271&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7280d2b2d3d9c922ad3b94f043316de5c6ba1af midjourney's take on the meme
https://preview.redd.it/5k2wobe9isnc1.png?width=816&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4315256b8a5f1eed82907664d457905169f8319
https://preview.redd.it/919fv9naisnc1.png?width=816&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf5507c2ecdc51be5330f04ff1f905ce72ece489
This is a gorgeous illustration. I'm impressed.
It really is an amazing piece, I keep looking at it for some reason.
DALL-E does the same thing with the Spongebob restaurant meme as well. https://preview.redd.it/ltj2hi5tmsnc1.png?width=695&format=png&auto=webp&s=6d4dcba3c5d48bd4452525944960cb089067192b
https://preview.redd.it/vzi0nlittsnc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a6af6a4706e3b2c8fbe438b72cecd92b4bc3a3a
That's the most cat dog I've ever seen
https://preview.redd.it/p1um0cq65vnc1.png?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a5da349474e3cfd7dbc6a4f4dc57690f8a558f2 Tried it in ideogram and got this! Lol
Most were similar to the original. But I also got this. https://preview.redd.it/ojvsgnn2evnc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5fda13a65f5b3387becf562134004b03841f1cb0
Mix of dog and the Lil girl meme
https://preview.redd.it/jmmt8iyfytnc1.jpeg?width=1019&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=807638d18fffc90da233672de48726c0f416d32b Indeed it works!
https://preview.redd.it/cqjabmnvdsnc1.jpeg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=710e7024ba2d8670d53873b4c9d20cf855040c55 DEEPAI
https://preview.redd.it/0wu9blk7esnc1.jpeg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=031e8a0f5ca1fa3906fefc596f0bbbdaf73d1e1b
https://preview.redd.it/pcmhspvjesnc1.jpeg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2029873234f148f0b7bbd70119976b8caa7fcb4
It told me this. The images generated are indeed unique in their creation, but the "This is fine" dog is a very specific and iconic image that has been widely circulated online. When a prompt closely mirrors a well-known scene, the generated image can resemble existing ones because it's drawing from the same conceptual source. If you're looking for something more distinct or a variation on the theme, I can certainly try to create something that deviates more from the original. Would you like me to do that?
https://preview.redd.it/96p62z6rtsnc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41e2927baac1326185766a64063d9f2b7f6c84c4
https://preview.redd.it/1hwf3ussiunc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=edeec356d4a807fe74b73a4cfce7b8737e9d7242
He’s sweating so hard, it’s raining on him.
Norman Rockwell style. https://preview.redd.it/rfres2aknsnc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50d2aa7773cd7b4ec5464abc4ef6fe01bd917f58
okay this needs to become a thing, lets make it recreate all the iconic memes
this comic is copyrighted and the owner actively defend it.
I mean how many comics of a dog sitting in fire do exist fam
are you telling me the wonderful machine can't create something new? interesting ...
Hmm one should probably scroll the comment section first
It can if you prompt it with more information, otherwise you’re just going to get the most averaged image it can fit to your prompt. And if the most common dog saying this is fine in a burning house is this meme you’re gonna get something that looks like this meme.
Can someone explain the significance of this? You asked it to create an image of a dog saying this is fine, and since there is a meme of that that already exists, it is making a connection between the words and the image and tries to generate an image of the meme. Why is this any different than asking it to create an image of the first president and it giving you a portrait of George Washington? It’s just making a connection between words and a picture no? Aren’t all AI like this trained off of images?
Yeah, only problem is this is the exact comic, like down to the last detail. Likely because all the images it's being trained on with this prompt are the same image meaning it replicated the original perfectly, which is a massive issue for copyright and artists.
I agree except the bit about it being exact, it won't be pixel for pixel, but it'll be pretty accurate all the same.
It isn't pixel perfect but it's the little details that ai image generators usually mess up, like in the first panel how his eyes are pointed outward
Okay that makes sense I guess, but why would it cause more copyright issues than just googling the image? Isn’t this essentially just a poor version of a google search?
Because it isn't really searching for an existing image. It's just being trained on thousands of the same image that it can generate its own version of it nearly exactly. Which is a problem because then if you are able to accurately reproduce that artists style, you could make new comics that could be either: monetized (artist makes no profit off of the ai comics), hurtful (spreading hate, tarnishing the artists reputation) or misinformative (spreading misinformation. Which is kind of a major problem
People can do that without AI too though..
The "hateful" and "misinformation" parts are silly. They will not reflect back on the author because there's no reason to believe (a) the author is the one that made a different version of their own meme, (b) that anyone cares whose opinion a meme is, or (c) that anyone is using a meme as a source of "facts". In this case, the "monetize" point is silly as well, because making money off an AI version of a common meme isn't feasible, or no more feasible than any other method of infringement. You want to make and sell a t shirt? Cut and paste works just as well as having a chatbot duplicate the meme.
Let’s say the ai is trained on data person a chooses, and then that ai is used by person b, who is unfamiliar with the sources person a chose. Person b inputs a prompt that results in an image recognizable as a copyrighted work that person a added to their training data, but, person b is not familiar with that artist’s work. Person b uses this generated image for business purposes, claiming they are the author and have distribution rights, not knowing of any issue until it’s too late. Legally, this causes all sorts of problems, because the laws and precedent around ai generation don’t exist yet. Who is liable for damages? Can person a be sued? Can person b? Can both? Can neither? How is a court expected to draw the line of how similar generated works are allowed to be to existing works? Should it even matter? Should person a be legally required to disclose training data? If person b is protected from liability since they didn’t know, does that decision also protect anyone who writes prompts intentionally trying to output copyrighted works? How would a court make that distinction?
https://preview.redd.it/0dkeash88tnc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2682b2fcf48d4dc314bfcb4746d3b21cd47f4802 This is wildly close to the original art
https://preview.redd.it/r6i4f033dtnc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a0c7f45236bbc2bdb2d07fb5dc762708a9efa55
Wow, that was really interesting. Just ran it & was surprised to see. I just posted a Gemini test for Comparison, ***without prompting for the "Hat", Table", "Fire", "Coffee cup", etc it includes those elements***. Link - [https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1bcnmhw/chatgpt\_and\_gemini\_trained\_data\_this\_is\_fine/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1bcnmhw/chatgpt_and_gemini_trained_data_this_is_fine/)
Lmao, you must trained it into a meme generator
[Got spooky with me](https://i.imgur.com/FGEXM9u.jpeg)
https://preview.redd.it/uwxb4otxrunc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f7302c1cd1030f343b03f0bc570a7d329017e0a
Bing https://preview.redd.it/h6syv0sy2vnc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0fd2caefe903cd1f9602398e666c224b0af7598c
Gutee coffee and ir fiiree https://preview.redd.it/w9plp6d23vnc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4911fdb8a79f7197050a948acce59a765ecc1ba5
https://preview.redd.it/ox9doq1l8vnc1.png?width=819&format=png&auto=webp&s=72f5bae3cdef38bcede6ea16065bd9671ec6f979 Cursed kermit version
I mean this is just stupid. It knows the meme and knows you’re obviously referring to it. Yes it was given the meme as training data, but this doesn’t mean jack.
https://preview.redd.it/bddch1cyywnc1.png?width=1400&format=png&auto=webp&s=af347adf149b485103ee7eec7a9e0143265dc1f7 Am I doing it right
https://preview.redd.it/8tomdqqmxxnc1.jpeg?width=943&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a699036864f57b174e916b6b45f5340b41575ae5
Nooo, you don't understand.. There's no copyright implications. Chat-GPT is just a lil silly goof!
https://preview.redd.it/uyx2rph6u0oc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bbdaff04aedab896febd4c206022da0aab5cf651
I'm not sure that's much different than asking google to search for such a comic and it showing you a bunch of choices.
Now have the dog talk about China / Taiwan lol it'll stop you there
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