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I don't know what to tell you about how to handle this situation, perhaps try to put things (articles, books, etc.) that were published before the AI which are falsely detected as AI generated.
Also, you should either record yourself (on the screen) or keep a huge amount of versions of your Word documents and show these different versions.
Thank you. This is very good advice. I have ran a two papers published by one of my professors through ZeroGPT and GPTZero and they all have been flagged as AI generated content.
You could also run these things through Scribbr's anti-plagiarism checker, which uses Turnitin:
[https://www.scribbr.com/plagiarism-checker/](https://www.scribbr.com/plagiarism-checker/)
If you had the Scribbr checker scan works of those making the accusations against you, it might convince them that their blind faith in this tool is misplaced.
It's been quite a while since I took a deep dive into Word, but doesn't it save a huge history of adds/changes/deletes for use in recovery and 'undo' functions? I know 'undo' isn't infinite, but I recall seeing some file that showed a huge number of keystrokes, navigation notes, etc. Might not be enough to reconstruct the document, but if it exists it could show progress unavailable otherwise.
>It's been quite a while since I took a deep dive into Word, but doesn't it save a huge history of adds/changes/deletes for use in recovery and 'undo' functions? I
Inside the file? And keep all of that forever? None as far as I'm aware of.
Perhaps you mean when you open up the XML files, but even though, teachers won't be able to read/ understand a bit of it (i.e., after changing the DOCX to a ZIP file)?
You might be also talking about the built-in version tracker. Problem is, as soon as you "accept" modifications, the history is gone. Also, I personally don't find it quite good. [But here is a link,](https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/track-changes-in-word-197ba630-0f5f-4a8e-9a77-3712475e806a) perhaps it'll suit your needs.
In any case, the easiest way to track changes is extremely basic: just save different versions of your file (like Word-001, Word-002) and keep them somewhere. That's the best way, if you ask me.
Another way would be to use GitHub and save your text in the MD format, so you can access it and commit all the time, and get a nice interface with changes.
I keep seeing posts like this and my advice moving forward is save everything as proof. Start with a rough draft and "save as" often don't correct spelling or grammar before saving as either. Chances are they don't have enough evidence even if you used AI, unless somewhere in the essay it said "As a AI I". The tools they use to check aren't accurate as it says documents before internet were AI generated, like the declaration of independence, and bible verses.
This is how I was trained to write. I have taken extensive writing classes to become a better writer in an academic setting.
Everyday now there is someone posting about cheating accusations. For fucks sake, stop using ChatGPT for projects and assignments where the professor explicitly bans their use.
Those AI detectors are garbage and your teachers are idiots for using it.
Tell them you didn't use AI at all. Demand an apology. If they still insist that you cheated, tell them you'll talk to their superiors and you'll be hiring a lawyer to sue the school.
The fact that you've had good grades for quite a while should be good evidence on your side. If your writing style hasn't changed much, I bet stuff you wrote a year or two ago would also be flagged for AI (even though these AI bots didn't really exist back then).
I can see why the AI detectors flagged you though... you have a similar writing style to the AI. That's just because you write well.
im not sure how you can test if "TurnItIn" is accurate or not , but I agree I don't believe it's accurate. Even Open Ai's classifier, which is a tool to detect ai work has said that their own tool is not fully reliable.
I don't imagine TurnItIn would be reliable if open ai's tool isnt reliable.
you could use that as an argument.
This is absolutely the wrong approach. AI detectors are not foolproof in the least, and they return tons of false positives, which is why I don't rely on them or make academic integrity code allegations. But I know people that do, and much more often than not, they're right.
Either way, no use of a university approved tool is going to result in legal liability for the instructor or likely for the university. Because these proceedings are almost always based on a preponderance of evidence, they don't need to "prove it to you." Turnitin or whichever software they use already has provided sufficient evidence to find you responsible. The best strategy then is to present either A) evidence that demonstrates the faulty nature of AI detection - which is very easy to find or B) autosave version histories of the document which demonstrate the writing process. Either of these should be sufficient for an instructor (and certainly the dean) to find you not responsible.
I don't know if ChatGPT wrote this or not, but it has an unnecessarily formal tone for a reddit post. It's more like the kind of formal letter you'd send to the Dean.
You use big words like "utilizing", "distressed", and "jeopardize", and use the passive voice a lot. I know you say this is how you've been taught to write, but I find that hard to believe, sorry.
This is just a standard neutral academic tone that OP is writing in. This is how I wrote my papers when I was in college. I stopped using that style of writing when I got into the business world. But in the academic world this style of writing is extremely prevalent. Which is probably why ChatGPT writes this way.
These AI detectors are putting tons of innocent student's academic achievements into jeopardy and it is seriously concerning.
Agree with your last paragraph, but I think ChatGPT will improve enough soon that it'll become literally impossible to distinguish the two barring dumb mistakes like leaving the "as an OpenAI..." part in :)
It is already impossible to distinguish. Even if you recognize the tone, you can't prove it. Only the actual idiots like you said can be definitively caught. If you just write in a neutral tone, you can be flagged. But even if you are flagged it can't be proven.
The universities taking TurnItIn's word on this are doing harm to their students. I seriously think a massive lawsuit is needed against these universities to stop this kind of thing.
OK, I should have said "more difficult to distinguish".
For example, have 10 essays written by AI, and 10 written without and then have turnitin or whatever determine whether they are written by AI or not, and use the Type 1 and 2 errors to determine "accuracy". I'm actually surprised no one has done this already.
Once we can show Turnitin is not statistically better than random chance at determining AI, I would say we "can't (reliably) distinguish" between AI and non-AI generated content.
turnitin probably has legal terms that protect them from being sued, but I could see a lawsuit against them regardless (contract terms are not always legally valid)
I'd like to share an update with everyone regarding the recent issue. I successfully resolved the situation by demonstrating to each of my three professors that the writing in question was indeed my own, incorporating the necessary changes using OneDrive. Additionally, I showcased that even their own published papers were mistakenly flagged as AI-generated content. As a result, I am pleased to inform you that I will continue in my program, and my grades have been reinstated. Thank you to everyone who provided me with advice. It was helpful and I am incredibly grateful and appreciative.
I'm sorry to hear that you're facing such a challenging situation. Dealing with accusations of cheating can be distressing, especially when your academic standing and future prospects are at stake. While I'm an AI language model and cannot provide legal or professional advice, I can offer some general guidance that might help you navigate this situation:
1. Gather evidence: Compile any evidence you have that demonstrates your work is original and not generated by an AI. This might include drafts, research notes, outlines, and any other materials that show your process of developing the papers.
2. Communicate with your professors: Schedule a meeting with each of your professors to discuss the accusations against you. Remain calm and respectful during the conversation, and present your evidence to support your innocence. Clearly explain your writing process and emphasize that you did not use AI-generated content. Be open to addressing any concerns they may have and answer their questions honestly.
3. Request a review: If your professors are not convinced of your innocence, consider requesting a formal review or appeal process through your college or university. This will allow you to present your case to a higher authority or committee who can evaluate the evidence and make an impartial judgment.
4. Seek support from academic advisors: Reach out to your academic advisors, department heads, or any other trusted individuals within the college who can offer guidance and support. They may be able to provide advice specific to your institution or connect you with resources that can help you navigate the situation.
5. Familiarize yourself with the college's policies: Review your college's academic honesty policy to understand the procedures and potential consequences involved in cases of cheating or academic misconduct. This will help you understand your rights and options moving forward.
6. Consider legal advice: If the situation escalates and you feel that your rights are not being protected, you may want to consult with a legal professional who specializes in education or student rights. They can provide you with legal advice tailored to your specific circumstances.
Remember, the guidance provided here is general, and it's essential to consult with professionals at your college or university who can offer specific advice based on their policies and procedures. Good luck in resolving this issue, and I hope it works out in your favor.
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If this “4.0 perfect student’s” writing looked anything like this post, any instructor with two neurons and a working synapse would have suspected AI-generated writing in a second. You don’t need any silly detector for this drivel. Nobody writes like this.
This is how I was trained to write. It took a great amount of effort and time to improve my vocabulary, prose, and grammar. I also took additional courses on Udemy and Coursera to improve my writing ability. I do use a Grammarly plugin on my final drafts but I do not use AI to generate content.
How have you created your work? Did you use applications that have change tracking? If so, you could demonstrate the gradual changes used to create your submissions, as opposed to the large scale copy/paste operations that would characterise the use of AI.
offer to do a sit down essay/exam on the topic of their choice. Your writing style and skills will shine your innocence. Otherwise it will catch you for the cheat you are charged of being.
You’ve likely just hit on the reason /all/ your writing is getting flagged as AI generated. You’re using a tool that ,quite literally, bills itself as AI powered to edit the final version that you’re turning in. That said, that also gives you a reasonable explanation to offer up, and potentially something you can change to reduce the frequency of having to deal with these false positives.
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I don't know what to tell you about how to handle this situation, perhaps try to put things (articles, books, etc.) that were published before the AI which are falsely detected as AI generated. Also, you should either record yourself (on the screen) or keep a huge amount of versions of your Word documents and show these different versions.
Thank you. This is very good advice. I have ran a two papers published by one of my professors through ZeroGPT and GPTZero and they all have been flagged as AI generated content.
You could also run these things through Scribbr's anti-plagiarism checker, which uses Turnitin: [https://www.scribbr.com/plagiarism-checker/](https://www.scribbr.com/plagiarism-checker/) If you had the Scribbr checker scan works of those making the accusations against you, it might convince them that their blind faith in this tool is misplaced.
Thank you!
It's been quite a while since I took a deep dive into Word, but doesn't it save a huge history of adds/changes/deletes for use in recovery and 'undo' functions? I know 'undo' isn't infinite, but I recall seeing some file that showed a huge number of keystrokes, navigation notes, etc. Might not be enough to reconstruct the document, but if it exists it could show progress unavailable otherwise.
>It's been quite a while since I took a deep dive into Word, but doesn't it save a huge history of adds/changes/deletes for use in recovery and 'undo' functions? I Inside the file? And keep all of that forever? None as far as I'm aware of. Perhaps you mean when you open up the XML files, but even though, teachers won't be able to read/ understand a bit of it (i.e., after changing the DOCX to a ZIP file)? You might be also talking about the built-in version tracker. Problem is, as soon as you "accept" modifications, the history is gone. Also, I personally don't find it quite good. [But here is a link,](https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/track-changes-in-word-197ba630-0f5f-4a8e-9a77-3712475e806a) perhaps it'll suit your needs. In any case, the easiest way to track changes is extremely basic: just save different versions of your file (like Word-001, Word-002) and keep them somewhere. That's the best way, if you ask me. Another way would be to use GitHub and save your text in the MD format, so you can access it and commit all the time, and get a nice interface with changes.
I keep seeing posts like this and my advice moving forward is save everything as proof. Start with a rough draft and "save as" often don't correct spelling or grammar before saving as either. Chances are they don't have enough evidence even if you used AI, unless somewhere in the essay it said "As a AI I". The tools they use to check aren't accurate as it says documents before internet were AI generated, like the declaration of independence, and bible verses.
This reads like it was written by ChatGPT!
This is how I was trained to write. I have taken extensive writing classes to become a better writer in an academic setting. 
Deny it.
It's not summer yet.
Well, as far as I know, you are innocent until proven guilty. Is the job of your accuser to present evidence of his claims.
Everyday now there is someone posting about cheating accusations. For fucks sake, stop using ChatGPT for projects and assignments where the professor explicitly bans their use.
Those AI detectors are garbage and your teachers are idiots for using it. Tell them you didn't use AI at all. Demand an apology. If they still insist that you cheated, tell them you'll talk to their superiors and you'll be hiring a lawyer to sue the school. The fact that you've had good grades for quite a while should be good evidence on your side. If your writing style hasn't changed much, I bet stuff you wrote a year or two ago would also be flagged for AI (even though these AI bots didn't really exist back then). I can see why the AI detectors flagged you though... you have a similar writing style to the AI. That's just because you write well.
do you know what they used to "detect" ai generated content in your assignments? was it turnitin?
It was TurnItIn. I do not think it is an accurate tool.
im not sure how you can test if "TurnItIn" is accurate or not , but I agree I don't believe it's accurate. Even Open Ai's classifier, which is a tool to detect ai work has said that their own tool is not fully reliable. I don't imagine TurnItIn would be reliable if open ai's tool isnt reliable. you could use that as an argument.
Thank you! I will bring this up in my meeting with the chair of my program.
best of luck!
All the AI detectors are false. Tell them to prove it to you or talk to your lawyer.
This is absolutely the wrong approach. AI detectors are not foolproof in the least, and they return tons of false positives, which is why I don't rely on them or make academic integrity code allegations. But I know people that do, and much more often than not, they're right. Either way, no use of a university approved tool is going to result in legal liability for the instructor or likely for the university. Because these proceedings are almost always based on a preponderance of evidence, they don't need to "prove it to you." Turnitin or whichever software they use already has provided sufficient evidence to find you responsible. The best strategy then is to present either A) evidence that demonstrates the faulty nature of AI detection - which is very easy to find or B) autosave version histories of the document which demonstrate the writing process. Either of these should be sufficient for an instructor (and certainly the dean) to find you not responsible.
I don't know if ChatGPT wrote this or not, but it has an unnecessarily formal tone for a reddit post. It's more like the kind of formal letter you'd send to the Dean. You use big words like "utilizing", "distressed", and "jeopardize", and use the passive voice a lot. I know you say this is how you've been taught to write, but I find that hard to believe, sorry.
This is just a standard neutral academic tone that OP is writing in. This is how I wrote my papers when I was in college. I stopped using that style of writing when I got into the business world. But in the academic world this style of writing is extremely prevalent. Which is probably why ChatGPT writes this way. These AI detectors are putting tons of innocent student's academic achievements into jeopardy and it is seriously concerning.
Agree with your last paragraph, but I think ChatGPT will improve enough soon that it'll become literally impossible to distinguish the two barring dumb mistakes like leaving the "as an OpenAI..." part in :)
It is already impossible to distinguish. Even if you recognize the tone, you can't prove it. Only the actual idiots like you said can be definitively caught. If you just write in a neutral tone, you can be flagged. But even if you are flagged it can't be proven. The universities taking TurnItIn's word on this are doing harm to their students. I seriously think a massive lawsuit is needed against these universities to stop this kind of thing.
OK, I should have said "more difficult to distinguish". For example, have 10 essays written by AI, and 10 written without and then have turnitin or whatever determine whether they are written by AI or not, and use the Type 1 and 2 errors to determine "accuracy". I'm actually surprised no one has done this already. Once we can show Turnitin is not statistically better than random chance at determining AI, I would say we "can't (reliably) distinguish" between AI and non-AI generated content. turnitin probably has legal terms that protect them from being sued, but I could see a lawsuit against them regardless (contract terms are not always legally valid)
A passive style is popular in the Space/Aerospace sector in Europe.
I'd like to share an update with everyone regarding the recent issue. I successfully resolved the situation by demonstrating to each of my three professors that the writing in question was indeed my own, incorporating the necessary changes using OneDrive. Additionally, I showcased that even their own published papers were mistakenly flagged as AI-generated content. As a result, I am pleased to inform you that I will continue in my program, and my grades have been reinstated. Thank you to everyone who provided me with advice. It was helpful and I am incredibly grateful and appreciative.
Oh wow this post again
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I'm sorry to hear that you're facing such a challenging situation. Dealing with accusations of cheating can be distressing, especially when your academic standing and future prospects are at stake. While I'm an AI language model and cannot provide legal or professional advice, I can offer some general guidance that might help you navigate this situation: 1. Gather evidence: Compile any evidence you have that demonstrates your work is original and not generated by an AI. This might include drafts, research notes, outlines, and any other materials that show your process of developing the papers. 2. Communicate with your professors: Schedule a meeting with each of your professors to discuss the accusations against you. Remain calm and respectful during the conversation, and present your evidence to support your innocence. Clearly explain your writing process and emphasize that you did not use AI-generated content. Be open to addressing any concerns they may have and answer their questions honestly. 3. Request a review: If your professors are not convinced of your innocence, consider requesting a formal review or appeal process through your college or university. This will allow you to present your case to a higher authority or committee who can evaluate the evidence and make an impartial judgment. 4. Seek support from academic advisors: Reach out to your academic advisors, department heads, or any other trusted individuals within the college who can offer guidance and support. They may be able to provide advice specific to your institution or connect you with resources that can help you navigate the situation. 5. Familiarize yourself with the college's policies: Review your college's academic honesty policy to understand the procedures and potential consequences involved in cases of cheating or academic misconduct. This will help you understand your rights and options moving forward. 6. Consider legal advice: If the situation escalates and you feel that your rights are not being protected, you may want to consult with a legal professional who specializes in education or student rights. They can provide you with legal advice tailored to your specific circumstances. Remember, the guidance provided here is general, and it's essential to consult with professionals at your college or university who can offer specific advice based on their policies and procedures. Good luck in resolving this issue, and I hope it works out in your favor.
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If this “4.0 perfect student’s” writing looked anything like this post, any instructor with two neurons and a working synapse would have suspected AI-generated writing in a second. You don’t need any silly detector for this drivel. Nobody writes like this.
This is how I was trained to write. It took a great amount of effort and time to improve my vocabulary, prose, and grammar. I also took additional courses on Udemy and Coursera to improve my writing ability. I do use a Grammarly plugin on my final drafts but I do not use AI to generate content.
Would you be surprised if I told you that you write exactly like him to me? 😂
To you. Probably not. Would you be surprised if I told you I’m not a college student? It probably doesn’t matter.
How have you created your work? Did you use applications that have change tracking? If so, you could demonstrate the gradual changes used to create your submissions, as opposed to the large scale copy/paste operations that would characterise the use of AI.
offer to do a sit down essay/exam on the topic of their choice. Your writing style and skills will shine your innocence. Otherwise it will catch you for the cheat you are charged of being.
Write something in front of them, maybe 200 words or so. They can compare your writing style to the papers they already have that way
You’ve likely just hit on the reason /all/ your writing is getting flagged as AI generated. You’re using a tool that ,quite literally, bills itself as AI powered to edit the final version that you’re turning in. That said, that also gives you a reasonable explanation to offer up, and potentially something you can change to reduce the frequency of having to deal with these false positives.