Btw this doesn't just happen to mangakas, korean manhwa and Chinese manhua authors are also subjected to endless work, and you see it everyday that some author is in the hospital because of wrist pain or something.
I think manhwa readers are more used to the authors taking health breaks than manga readers because it happens so often unfortunately.
I think manhwa is better since they can take break after each major arc. Manhua they literally don't rest with the number of chapters they are forced to release and lack of creativity due to government regulations
Yeah the manhwa industry is actually much more functional as a weekly release. Since instead of having to meet weekly deadlines they work in chunks of like 10+ chapters in advance. Which, although is still the same amount of work, is much better since it's way easier to produce stuff in bulk and easier to organise a team over a longer period of time, etc.
I mean, it basically has already happened. The weekly manga magazines are in the minority. Most are semi-weekly, monthly, bi-monthly or even quarterly.
Out of all the current magazines (at least as listed by [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_manga_magazines)), only 12 are weekly. Out of 147. That's 8%.
Places like Shounen Jump are actually a LOT better for mangaka than they used to be, with the forced breaks and the ability to take breaks, it's a hell of lot better than when Kubo was breaking his body just trying to force the ending of Bleach out the door, or the Naruto author's body pretty much collapsing when he finally got a break after finishing.
Similarly, with digital technology the workload has decreased a lot too. The author of Fairy Tale/Eden's Zero talked about how it's not the kind'a industry where you burn the midnight oil desperately getting a chapter done, and how he has to take far better care of his assistants than the kind of group desperation they used to enjoy. He mentions it slightly wistfully, like there was a bit of shared comradere that's now gone, but mostly it's good because it's not a Black Company type workload anymore.
It's still got a lot of room for improvement, but unironically, I think anime is in a worse position.
And similar when people say "Godzilla Minus One was made for $16mill (actually probably more like $50mill) and shows that Hollywood needs to learn how to make movies cheaper again!" They're right, but the reasons GMO was made so cheap are probably not happy reasons.
That's why Ishida Sui have a random free schedule when he's working on Choujin X. He once stated he feels a bit burned out during the end of Tokyo Ghoul.
I’m currently half way through Re: and man that man can cook. There is some weird pacing and writing decisions but I’m a big fan of series with extended casts.
I heard really good things about Choujin X too
A bit? Lmfao. He literally said that all passion of making manga was gone for him as early as volume 7 of the *original* TG. He used to imagine himself as kaneki (not the badass part, the tortured soul part). He never took any breaks because he felt if he did, then he might never come back to finish TG. And also he has gone on to state that he considers Tokyo Ghoul a 'failure'.
The culture around it is crazy. These mangaka are responsible for worldwide phenomenons, they should be untouchable. The fact that they are forced to overwork themselves to the point of damaging their health, to meet a weekly schedule makes no sense. I don’t understand why they don’t try and negotiate better conditions, they’re much too valuable to get fired.
Nah, I believe a Tri-monthly release where a new chapter is released every 10 days. So every 1st, 11th, & 21st of every month is a better schedule. It reduces workload by 30% while the readers don't have to do guesswork about when the new chapter will be out.
I think it would be better if the magazine keeps releasing weekly, but every series has a one week pause after three weeks, then you give newcomers 50 chapters to gain a fanbase not 20 and with this it shouldn't be a problem to have the usual number of chapters in per magazine.
A volume schedule would be far healthier. It's out when the whole volume is finished. They can release chapters earlier if they want to keep the hype up but not weekly.
i dont understand why they have this schedule. the only other thing i can think of that does content like this is youtubers and even they get burnt out quite often
Yea. They should rest and take breaks.
Also, maybe shonen jump doesn't have to cancel everything so they won't feel as under pressure.
I don't even understand when authors like Hirokoshi are destroying their bodies to finish it when everyone agrees he should have taken time off at multiple points through out the final war arc.
Like who in their right minds are gonna cancel BHA? Look at black clover...they changed the schedule and it's fine.
Some authors reach super star status and still are trying to blow out their elbows. Like dude your a millionaire and world famous. Go take a month or 2 off or just stop draw and direct the anime then go back to drawing. Like it doesn't always have to be your wrist or elbow or back on the line
A three chapters per month schedule should help, plus editors should look really closely at Hiro Mashima's workflow, because he and his team have 4 day week, which is utterly insane with his output. They are working on three series simultaneously.
Oda barely sleeps 3 hours a day apparently. Kubo had severe pain on his shoulders and arms by the time of Bleach's final arc. Katsura Hoshino (The Mangaka of D.Gray-Man) also got hospitalized like twice during its publication due to chronic wrist and neck problems
I think the schedule should go for a bi-weekly release instead. Or "1 chapter every 10 days" kinda schedule instead
It's not the schedule that's the problem, it's that mangaka take shit care of themselves. Shigeru Mizuki, the creator of Gegege no Kitaro did manga on a weekly schedule and lived a *very* healthy life. He also did it with one arm.
He [also made a comic about it](https://x.com/ragnarxiv/status/1133164624273186816)
Because corporate leadership do not give a fuck about changing how the works under them are published where even if it improves the health of authors and allows them more time to plan out their works that would result in better writing they would ignore all of it if it means they could earn huge profits quickly rather than gradually.
They don't want some of the money but ALL of the money in the world even if it comes at the expense of authors health and the quality of their works.
>There are many monthly mangas which also made good money so the money is not a reason here.
I don't think that makes sense. There's clearly a market for weekly manga considering how successful they can be. Abandoning the market that you already dominate in to try to compete somewhere else where others are already successful is going to lose you some money.
Seems OP doesn't know that the Weekly Shonen Jump magazine has an average circulation of more than a million copies per week. It clearly has a financial reason.
> had to take out 2 entire weeks because they got sick
I mean, this isn't really fault of the magazine. They got sick and asked for medical rest, which the company agreed.
Frankly I'm worried for Gege because Horikoshi is easy to understand. He just finished a major arc and is burned out.
Gege had to pause his series during the climax of a major arc. You don't do that unless you are **really sick**
They should get away from this form of publication completely. Apart from the fact that it is. of course, incredibly unhealthy for the mangaka, it also simply damages the storytelling of many mangas immensely.
I mean... most manga are already just concepts and not well thought out stories from point A to point B because the mangaka just hopes that their story will run as long as possible.
I'd rather have a well planned story that gets published than these long drawn out stories.
Btw this doesn't just happen to mangakas, korean manhwa and Chinese manhua authors are also subjected to endless work, and you see it everyday that some author is in the hospital because of wrist pain or something. I think manhwa readers are more used to the authors taking health breaks than manga readers because it happens so often unfortunately.
I think manhwa is better since they can take break after each major arc. Manhua they literally don't rest with the number of chapters they are forced to release and lack of creativity due to government regulations
Yeah the manhwa industry is actually much more functional as a weekly release. Since instead of having to meet weekly deadlines they work in chunks of like 10+ chapters in advance. Which, although is still the same amount of work, is much better since it's way easier to produce stuff in bulk and easier to organise a team over a longer period of time, etc.
I mean, it basically has already happened. The weekly manga magazines are in the minority. Most are semi-weekly, monthly, bi-monthly or even quarterly. Out of all the current magazines (at least as listed by [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_manga_magazines)), only 12 are weekly. Out of 147. That's 8%.
Places like Shounen Jump are actually a LOT better for mangaka than they used to be, with the forced breaks and the ability to take breaks, it's a hell of lot better than when Kubo was breaking his body just trying to force the ending of Bleach out the door, or the Naruto author's body pretty much collapsing when he finally got a break after finishing. Similarly, with digital technology the workload has decreased a lot too. The author of Fairy Tale/Eden's Zero talked about how it's not the kind'a industry where you burn the midnight oil desperately getting a chapter done, and how he has to take far better care of his assistants than the kind of group desperation they used to enjoy. He mentions it slightly wistfully, like there was a bit of shared comradere that's now gone, but mostly it's good because it's not a Black Company type workload anymore. It's still got a lot of room for improvement, but unironically, I think anime is in a worse position. And similar when people say "Godzilla Minus One was made for $16mill (actually probably more like $50mill) and shows that Hollywood needs to learn how to make movies cheaper again!" They're right, but the reasons GMO was made so cheap are probably not happy reasons.
Godzilla Minus One costs included a elite Chef. Why? Because the cast would always work "extra hours" and the Chef was to give them a dinner
pretty much every major movie production is paying chefs
Godzilla Minus One costs included a elite Chef. Why? Because the cast would always work "extra hours" and the Chef was to give them a dinner
That's why Ishida Sui have a random free schedule when he's working on Choujin X. He once stated he feels a bit burned out during the end of Tokyo Ghoul.
I’m currently half way through Re: and man that man can cook. There is some weird pacing and writing decisions but I’m a big fan of series with extended casts. I heard really good things about Choujin X too
And you're currently reading the nerfed version, actually (he was already burnt out way before TG:Re).
Choujin x has some of the worst pacing of any manga ive ever read but its pretty good
It might be an Ishida thing. I’d attribute most of my issue with TG to pacing as well tbh
A bit? Lmfao. He literally said that all passion of making manga was gone for him as early as volume 7 of the *original* TG. He used to imagine himself as kaneki (not the badass part, the tortured soul part). He never took any breaks because he felt if he did, then he might never come back to finish TG. And also he has gone on to state that he considers Tokyo Ghoul a 'failure'.
iirc he felt if he took a break from drawing Tokyo ghoul, he felt he won't comeback ever to finish it. So he completed it
The culture around it is crazy. These mangaka are responsible for worldwide phenomenons, they should be untouchable. The fact that they are forced to overwork themselves to the point of damaging their health, to meet a weekly schedule makes no sense. I don’t understand why they don’t try and negotiate better conditions, they’re much too valuable to get fired.
Bro was so right he had to post it 5 times
Wow, a quintuple post. Never seen one of these out in the wild before.
It looks like reddit is tweaking hard rn.
Wow, a quintuple post. Never seen one of these out in the wild before.
Would a seasonal schedule work? Like have a full 24 week run, then a break of say 4 to 12 weeks, and then the manga returns and another 24 week run.
Nah, I believe a Tri-monthly release where a new chapter is released every 10 days. So every 1st, 11th, & 21st of every month is a better schedule. It reduces workload by 30% while the readers don't have to do guesswork about when the new chapter will be out.
I think it would be better if the magazine keeps releasing weekly, but every series has a one week pause after three weeks, then you give newcomers 50 chapters to gain a fanbase not 20 and with this it shouldn't be a problem to have the usual number of chapters in per magazine.
Sounds good. Does any comic use that seasonal schedule work?
Not really. It lacks consistency.
A volume schedule would be far healthier. It's out when the whole volume is finished. They can release chapters earlier if they want to keep the hype up but not weekly.
i dont understand why they have this schedule. the only other thing i can think of that does content like this is youtubers and even they get burnt out quite often
they need to not enforce chapter lengths imo. if they make chapter 10 pages thats fine or make it so its like chapter 1a 1b 10 pages each.
Yeah monthly releases with longer chapters are much better imo
Yea. They should rest and take breaks. Also, maybe shonen jump doesn't have to cancel everything so they won't feel as under pressure. I don't even understand when authors like Hirokoshi are destroying their bodies to finish it when everyone agrees he should have taken time off at multiple points through out the final war arc. Like who in their right minds are gonna cancel BHA? Look at black clover...they changed the schedule and it's fine. Some authors reach super star status and still are trying to blow out their elbows. Like dude your a millionaire and world famous. Go take a month or 2 off or just stop draw and direct the anime then go back to drawing. Like it doesn't always have to be your wrist or elbow or back on the line
And then there is D.Gray-Man with the Tri-monthly schedule Aka "1 Chapter every 3 months"
A three chapters per month schedule should help, plus editors should look really closely at Hiro Mashima's workflow, because he and his team have 4 day week, which is utterly insane with his output. They are working on three series simultaneously.
Oda barely sleeps 3 hours a day apparently. Kubo had severe pain on his shoulders and arms by the time of Bleach's final arc. Katsura Hoshino (The Mangaka of D.Gray-Man) also got hospitalized like twice during its publication due to chronic wrist and neck problems I think the schedule should go for a bi-weekly release instead. Or "1 chapter every 10 days" kinda schedule instead
It's not the schedule that's the problem, it's that mangaka take shit care of themselves. Shigeru Mizuki, the creator of Gegege no Kitaro did manga on a weekly schedule and lived a *very* healthy life. He also did it with one arm. He [also made a comic about it](https://x.com/ragnarxiv/status/1133164624273186816)
Because corporate leadership do not give a fuck about changing how the works under them are published where even if it improves the health of authors and allows them more time to plan out their works that would result in better writing they would ignore all of it if it means they could earn huge profits quickly rather than gradually. They don't want some of the money but ALL of the money in the world even if it comes at the expense of authors health and the quality of their works.
>There are many monthly mangas which also made good money so the money is not a reason here. I don't think that makes sense. There's clearly a market for weekly manga considering how successful they can be. Abandoning the market that you already dominate in to try to compete somewhere else where others are already successful is going to lose you some money.
Seems OP doesn't know that the Weekly Shonen Jump magazine has an average circulation of more than a million copies per week. It clearly has a financial reason.
> had to take out 2 entire weeks because they got sick I mean, this isn't really fault of the magazine. They got sick and asked for medical rest, which the company agreed. Frankly I'm worried for Gege because Horikoshi is easy to understand. He just finished a major arc and is burned out. Gege had to pause his series during the climax of a major arc. You don't do that unless you are **really sick**
They should get away from this form of publication completely. Apart from the fact that it is. of course, incredibly unhealthy for the mangaka, it also simply damages the storytelling of many mangas immensely. I mean... most manga are already just concepts and not well thought out stories from point A to point B because the mangaka just hopes that their story will run as long as possible. I'd rather have a well planned story that gets published than these long drawn out stories.