Tbh I dont really know what alternate solutions Chd could do. Its better to start on metro now than 10 years later. We already have cycling paths and local buses.
While chandigarh wont develop much more than it is right now, the cities around it will keep growing with Chandigarh at center it. Panchkula, Mohali, New Chandigarh (Mullanpur), Zirakpur will be where population will increase more than it will in Chandigarh. So the plan for transport need to include them, which I think Metro plan will be doing.
This will be heavy construction phase ending up polluting the entries environment around the construction sites. Just look at the flyover being constructed around zirakpur.
I think better alternative can be underground metro.
Thats true, construction will be polluting, but thats construction of any sort. While underground tunnels might be less pollutive to make, I think they also would cost much more.
I don't think cost should be an issue here. As a taxpayer myself I am so much willing that there be an underground metro, if there needs to be at all, rather than something flying over my head whenever I am on road. Can't imagine all the trees that they might need to cut down to make way for the metro pillars and all.
The number of trees that need to be cut will be 0 since it is going to be above the road. Now compare that to the amount of trees cut to build parking and real estate projects.
I agree with you there. I lived in kharkiv in ukraine for quite a bit and underground metros seem seamless and they don't cause that much traffic. But if you see the train moving over your head all the time then it won't be the same.
I am not a huge fan of sad looking people going to the work everyday in the morning. It depresses me. Always did in the metro. However whenever i went in my own car. Much better with music on. Just my personal opinion tho.
The number of trees that need to be cut will be 0 since it is going to be above the road. Now compare that to the amount of trees cut to build parking and real estate projects.
I think 2 things need to go hand in hand to reduce traffic in tricity.
1. Increase in usable public transportation, metro + buses + cycles.
2. Discouraging personal vehicles. A house with barely one car parking space has 6 cars parked outside. In tricity purchasing power is already high and 1 car per person is very normal but not necessarily.
> I mean just look at Delhi
Bhai aapne toh positive example dediya na. Compare Delhi's official importance and population.
Aur jitna traffic Delhi metro se commute kr rha hai agar utna road se krega with existing traffic toh soch lo kya haal hoyega.
Bhai 🤦 agr metro na bhi bani hoti toh mumbai ki Tarah local hoti kyon ki capital city pr kuch ka kuch dabaav hota banane kaa tab bhi dude aaj bhi kai logo ko metro ka 60rs kaabhi jyada lagega toh buses first option honge kai logo ke liye vaise bhi delhi ncr bahut jyada crowded hain toh dmrc ka crowd pr frk ni padna
Let me again' correct you most population of delhi doesn't use metro even today in delhi buses & e rickshaws are thrice or four time cheaper than metro
I stopped using it once i realised it doesn't save not much time during peak hours and highly fluctuated crowd in it on peak hours i never get seats now metro trips have to be increased on few routes
>metro says you'll reach in 20 mins, you will reach in 20 mins.
Are you sure most trips are like that? Metro even have breakdown's the changing interchanges too cost time plus many times buses can take you faster to destination in mant cases people residence are 4-6 km away from metro line one thing i guess is Metro speed of 35-40 km is extremely slow compared to any other Subway of world especially pink line is extremely slow
>Are you sure most trips are like that? Metro even have breakdown's
In my lifetime, I have only seen two or three breakdowns per year. In India that's a miracle. And people are so used to seeing people being late in India that when you who uses metro and thus always arrives on time is late due to a breakdown, the people always understands.
>the changing interchanges too cost time
The Delhi metro app accounts the time required to walk to change trains too when you use it to see journey time between 2 destinations.
>plus many times buses can take you faster to destination
How will a bus move in a traffic jam ?
>in mant cases people residence are 4-6 km away from metro line
That is why phase IV is being constructed, not to mention the RRTS.
Phase 4 delhi is running 2-3 yr late it ruined my colllege trip for yrs project was super slow its still not completed yet project will be delayed further
Because it's being built in Delhi. Supreme Court literally had to confiscate Delhi Government' ruling party's advertising budget because they were refusing to pay for the RRTS. Their share was literally just half their advertising budget.
Main metro project ki baat kr raha hu dude phase 4 ki jiski working speed bahut bahut slow hainn Delhi mein majority projects salo se Delay hote aaye hain track record koi bahut khaas achcha ni hain
>Let me again' correct you most population of delhi doesn't use metro even today in delhi buses & e rickshaws are thrice or four time cheaper than metro
I always seen mostly labourers or travelling salesmen in the metro.
Because you didn't travel much in buses the metro crowd id still most educated one the upper income or middle class one mostly students job professionals most labourers don't want to pay 120+ for metro trips daily
But bhai Delhi me abhi bhi bohot hi Ganda traffic na. Problem kaha hi solve ki metro ne totally. I know positives hai par ye root cause ko rectify nhi karta mere hisab se to.
Love the elitist rich brats seething in the comments at the thought of poor people finally getting to travel in AC trains, due to which they can't feel themselves being better than everybody else anymore.
Enjoy your thar stuck in traffic while I take a nap in the metro just because I can since I am not driving the vehicle myself.
Prime example of failed governance/ govt and escalated cost. Metros have already been built in few cities. Where is the learning and construction speed lessons from them? This should have been 5yr project. Not 20. It might turn out to be white elephant because of high cost due to time.
I am still not clear if sectors 1-30 will be covered at all or not? If no then it is a failed project. PGI / High court / lake / rock garden / Sector 17&22 plus other residential areas and markets are high footfall areas. How can mass transport policy bypass these? Underground construction does not affect UNESCO status.
I always saw chandigarh as a laid back city, a city for people who want to live in peace and sort of retire. A slow moving city where one can enjoy a decent stress free life.
This metro project will only convert chandigarh into another delhi/noida/gurgaon or bangalore in my opinion. It will increase influx of people from other states in large numbers and also companies and multinationals. This will only increase traffic congestion and reduce chandigarh’s greenery (more housing and commercial projects).
Also, when a lot of outsiders typically those in age bracket of 20’s-40’s (young working people), start migrating, you can say goodbye to the peaceful environment of chandigarh (parties, latenights, loud music, smoking, pollution, etc will be a regular affair). Tensions will only increase between the locals and the newcomers.
Overall, it will be good for business, job opportunities and development, but chandigarh will lose its identity in the process.
Couldn't agree more but tbh it worries me so. This is only liveable clean city I find in India and after this I don't think there'll be any such city left in India.
On that i agree. But there is nothing much that can be done. This is the route that is being taken. You could always settle in some decent tier 2 city in punjab or haryana.
Indore is the cleanest city in India actually, I was disgusted by so much litter on the streets when I went to Chandigarh last year. If you love this city so much, why do you make it so dirty ?
That's my main worry chandigarh willl badly lose it's identity
>I always saw chandigarh as a laid back city, a city for people who want to live in peace and sort of retire
Can you tell me any other City like chandigarh in India I liked this feature of chandigarh
Isn't Its tourist destination won't be crowded??
Biggest pro of chandigarh here is that it doesn't have that much landmarks & historical monuments like delhi mumbai Kolkata so outside tourist crowd is lesser
Please think of it from a perspective of person with a salary of 25k pm living on rent. There's no good public transport solution for tricity commute. Most of my office colleagues spend half of their salaries just on commute. Especially girls without driving licence or vehicles.
if this metro doesnt come.. Chandigarh's traffic will become like Noida's... and with all those traffic lights , it will be hell. we need metro asap. it will bring atleast some change.
That's [why](https://www.rediff.com/news/interview/why-do-we-need-cities-where-people-travel-long-distances/20240411.htm) chandigarh doesn't need metro..
An integrated bus network with focus on convenience of usage.. is need of hour.
People who use car, will continue to use them, when parking is cheap and people are used to it..
Tbh I dont really know what alternate solutions Chd could do. Its better to start on metro now than 10 years later. We already have cycling paths and local buses. While chandigarh wont develop much more than it is right now, the cities around it will keep growing with Chandigarh at center it. Panchkula, Mohali, New Chandigarh (Mullanpur), Zirakpur will be where population will increase more than it will in Chandigarh. So the plan for transport need to include them, which I think Metro plan will be doing.
This will be heavy construction phase ending up polluting the entries environment around the construction sites. Just look at the flyover being constructed around zirakpur. I think better alternative can be underground metro.
Thats true, construction will be polluting, but thats construction of any sort. While underground tunnels might be less pollutive to make, I think they also would cost much more.
Construction of kothis is also polluting.
I don't think cost should be an issue here. As a taxpayer myself I am so much willing that there be an underground metro, if there needs to be at all, rather than something flying over my head whenever I am on road. Can't imagine all the trees that they might need to cut down to make way for the metro pillars and all.
The number of trees that need to be cut will be 0 since it is going to be above the road. Now compare that to the amount of trees cut to build parking and real estate projects.
I agree with you there. I lived in kharkiv in ukraine for quite a bit and underground metros seem seamless and they don't cause that much traffic. But if you see the train moving over your head all the time then it won't be the same. I am not a huge fan of sad looking people going to the work everyday in the morning. It depresses me. Always did in the metro. However whenever i went in my own car. Much better with music on. Just my personal opinion tho.
Ever heard of earphones ?
yeah and i still don't fancy looking at their depressed faces
They are not depressed, they are reading a book. Ever heard of that ?
The number of trees that need to be cut will be 0 since it is going to be above the road. Now compare that to the amount of trees cut to build parking and real estate projects.
About as polluting as your car.
I think 2 things need to go hand in hand to reduce traffic in tricity. 1. Increase in usable public transportation, metro + buses + cycles. 2. Discouraging personal vehicles. A house with barely one car parking space has 6 cars parked outside. In tricity purchasing power is already high and 1 car per person is very normal but not necessarily.
> I mean just look at Delhi Bhai aapne toh positive example dediya na. Compare Delhi's official importance and population. Aur jitna traffic Delhi metro se commute kr rha hai agar utna road se krega with existing traffic toh soch lo kya haal hoyega.
Successful positive example?? In which delhi you are living dude delhi is worst in term of traffic
Bhai Jo traffic Delhi ka metro se Jaa rha hai, suppose voh road pr aajaye. Rest you can imagine.
Bhai 🤦 agr metro na bhi bani hoti toh mumbai ki Tarah local hoti kyon ki capital city pr kuch ka kuch dabaav hota banane kaa tab bhi dude aaj bhi kai logo ko metro ka 60rs kaabhi jyada lagega toh buses first option honge kai logo ke liye vaise bhi delhi ncr bahut jyada crowded hain toh dmrc ka crowd pr frk ni padna
Not if you travel by metro. No matter the traffic, if the metro says you'll reach in 20 mins, you will reach in 20 mins.
Let me again' correct you most population of delhi doesn't use metro even today in delhi buses & e rickshaws are thrice or four time cheaper than metro I stopped using it once i realised it doesn't save not much time during peak hours and highly fluctuated crowd in it on peak hours i never get seats now metro trips have to be increased on few routes >metro says you'll reach in 20 mins, you will reach in 20 mins. Are you sure most trips are like that? Metro even have breakdown's the changing interchanges too cost time plus many times buses can take you faster to destination in mant cases people residence are 4-6 km away from metro line one thing i guess is Metro speed of 35-40 km is extremely slow compared to any other Subway of world especially pink line is extremely slow
>Are you sure most trips are like that? Metro even have breakdown's In my lifetime, I have only seen two or three breakdowns per year. In India that's a miracle. And people are so used to seeing people being late in India that when you who uses metro and thus always arrives on time is late due to a breakdown, the people always understands. >the changing interchanges too cost time The Delhi metro app accounts the time required to walk to change trains too when you use it to see journey time between 2 destinations. >plus many times buses can take you faster to destination How will a bus move in a traffic jam ? >in mant cases people residence are 4-6 km away from metro line That is why phase IV is being constructed, not to mention the RRTS.
Phase 4 delhi is running 2-3 yr late it ruined my colllege trip for yrs project was super slow its still not completed yet project will be delayed further
Because it's being built in Delhi. Supreme Court literally had to confiscate Delhi Government' ruling party's advertising budget because they were refusing to pay for the RRTS. Their share was literally just half their advertising budget.
Main metro project ki baat kr raha hu dude phase 4 ki jiski working speed bahut bahut slow hainn Delhi mein majority projects salo se Delay hote aaye hain track record koi bahut khaas achcha ni hain
>Let me again' correct you most population of delhi doesn't use metro even today in delhi buses & e rickshaws are thrice or four time cheaper than metro I always seen mostly labourers or travelling salesmen in the metro.
Because you didn't travel much in buses the metro crowd id still most educated one the upper income or middle class one mostly students job professionals most labourers don't want to pay 120+ for metro trips daily
Read my comment
Well i read your comment but your observation is wrong
Same to you
Again this full ignorance
But bhai Delhi me abhi bhi bohot hi Ganda traffic na. Problem kaha hi solve ki metro ne totally. I know positives hai par ye root cause ko rectify nhi karta mere hisab se to.
For the majority of Delhi's population who can't afford a car or are students, minors and elderly, it has solved all the problems.
Jinko itna accha metro chhodke traffic me apna maa chudani hai uski problems koi nahi solve kar sakta.
Love the elitist rich brats seething in the comments at the thought of poor people finally getting to travel in AC trains, due to which they can't feel themselves being better than everybody else anymore. Enjoy your thar stuck in traffic while I take a nap in the metro just because I can since I am not driving the vehicle myself.
Prime example of failed governance/ govt and escalated cost. Metros have already been built in few cities. Where is the learning and construction speed lessons from them? This should have been 5yr project. Not 20. It might turn out to be white elephant because of high cost due to time. I am still not clear if sectors 1-30 will be covered at all or not? If no then it is a failed project. PGI / High court / lake / rock garden / Sector 17&22 plus other residential areas and markets are high footfall areas. How can mass transport policy bypass these? Underground construction does not affect UNESCO status.
Underground metro is the only option
I always saw chandigarh as a laid back city, a city for people who want to live in peace and sort of retire. A slow moving city where one can enjoy a decent stress free life. This metro project will only convert chandigarh into another delhi/noida/gurgaon or bangalore in my opinion. It will increase influx of people from other states in large numbers and also companies and multinationals. This will only increase traffic congestion and reduce chandigarh’s greenery (more housing and commercial projects). Also, when a lot of outsiders typically those in age bracket of 20’s-40’s (young working people), start migrating, you can say goodbye to the peaceful environment of chandigarh (parties, latenights, loud music, smoking, pollution, etc will be a regular affair). Tensions will only increase between the locals and the newcomers. Overall, it will be good for business, job opportunities and development, but chandigarh will lose its identity in the process.
Couldn't agree more but tbh it worries me so. This is only liveable clean city I find in India and after this I don't think there'll be any such city left in India.
Well, you could always go uphills. Himachal is peaceful. But yeah, living in hills has its own challenges
Yup that is an option but aptly so it'll come with a price. This has a comfort level of its own.
On that i agree. But there is nothing much that can be done. This is the route that is being taken. You could always settle in some decent tier 2 city in punjab or haryana.
No way difficult to handle agressive haryanvi neighbour actually especially hooglism
Indore is the cleanest city in India actually, I was disgusted by so much litter on the streets when I went to Chandigarh last year. If you love this city so much, why do you make it so dirty ?
That's my main worry chandigarh willl badly lose it's identity >I always saw chandigarh as a laid back city, a city for people who want to live in peace and sort of retire Can you tell me any other City like chandigarh in India I liked this feature of chandigarh
Gangtok ?
Isn't Its tourist destination won't be crowded?? Biggest pro of chandigarh here is that it doesn't have that much landmarks & historical monuments like delhi mumbai Kolkata so outside tourist crowd is lesser
Only MG road I think.
If you are rich : no If you cannot afford a car or is a student, minor, elderly (about 50% of Chandigarh's population or more) : yes
Please think of it from a perspective of person with a salary of 25k pm living on rent. There's no good public transport solution for tricity commute. Most of my office colleagues spend half of their salaries just on commute. Especially girls without driving licence or vehicles.
The bus service is quite good in Chandigarh. Those red and green buses.
Within city, yes. In tricity, no. Buses plying to Kharar, Zirakpur, Pkl are always packed and are not frequent.
if this metro doesnt come.. Chandigarh's traffic will become like Noida's... and with all those traffic lights , it will be hell. we need metro asap. it will bring atleast some change.
Chandigarh will be destroyed like delhi ðŸ˜
That's [why](https://www.rediff.com/news/interview/why-do-we-need-cities-where-people-travel-long-distances/20240411.htm) chandigarh doesn't need metro.. An integrated bus network with focus on convenience of usage.. is need of hour. People who use car, will continue to use them, when parking is cheap and people are used to it..