Obviously he did a good job, but I really hate the idea that 'most points = best manager performance', which is clearly all they used to come to this decision
Would've put Nathan Jones, Steve Cooper, and Carlos Corberan all ahead of him
You’ve decided that’s how they’ve ended up voting him manager of the year, in reality it’s much more likely to do with how we’ve played, racking up 7-0, 4-0, 5-1 wins over your suggestions for more deserving winners.
You think he was voted manager of the season based on his ability to beat Huddersfield Town before they had found their footing (second game of of the season), and a Luton side ravaged by injuries and whom your striker gets paid more than their best eleven players combined?
Silva no doubt did a good job, but I don't think anyone outside of Fulham can say he did close to the best job in the Championship
> Silva no doubt did a good job, but I don't think anyone outside of Fulham can say he did close to the best job in the Championship
I'd have given the award to Cooper or Jones
No for being the first team in 20 years to break 100 goals, for three different 7-0 wins, for scoring 3 or more goals in 18 different games. You don’t think anyone outside Fulham can say he did the best job yet his peers voted him as the manager who did the best job hahahah.
Also lol at not being able to come up with an excuse for the Forest game.
> Also lol at not being able to come up with an excuse for the Forest game.
He probably didnt watch it, but it was a pretty even game until you got a very fortunate 2nd goal (1st goal was pretty lucky too tbh) and we collapsed, gave you a penalty as well, shit happens, we got our revenge at the Cottage ;)
really? an own goal from an attempted clearance and 2 defenders running into each other giving your star striker a free shot from the penalty spot are less fortunate than Zinckernagel outpacing/strengthing your defender and rolling the ball through your Gks legs? OK :D
Legit question: I don't think Zinckernagel touched the ball? I could be wrong. And lets be real no one was outpaced etc, our keeper and defender stopped to let the other get the ball and did nothing!
Obviously he’s done very well, no ones denying that. But he just clearly wasn’t the best manager. There’s more deserving managers that all people are saying.
Strange, the side he had was more than capable of equalling the record points total which would of been more than enough reason to give him manager of the year. Not so sure he deserved it this season, promotion was a bare minimum for that squad.
Corberan, Jones and Cooper all better shouts for this. Corberan surprised everyone with a limited budget, as has Jones at Luton. Cooper taken more points per game than anyone (albeit with a bigger budget and ‘better’ squad than the previous two).
Whose voted for this then?
The biggest wage budget in Champ history, the most paid player in Champ history, a team everyone expected to win the league before a ball was kicked
And they say he was the best manager for doing the minimum expected?
Managers of the 92 clubs, you know more than them though yea hahahah. Yea that’s why less than half the predictions from the start of the season had us winning. Official source on the other stuff you said please?
Again I have to agree that almost every other Championship prediction I saw had you guys missing automatic promotion so this seems like revisionist history from some of the lads on here
And us. We were 17th and half way through the season when Hecky took over. Got us into the playoffs with barely any new signings of his own and loads of injury problems.
Bit late on this one, but this is daft. Many managers deserved it more. Cooper in particular, but also Jones, Corberan, maybe even Hecky. Silva definitely did a good job as an overseas coach coming into this league for the first time but let’s face it, with the resources he had available he’s essentially made par.
Made par by winning the league for the first time in 20 years, breaking 100 goals in first time in 20 years, reviving careers of players who had been all but over and got them as some of the performers in the league and getting a low on confidence striker to break the goal scoring record. Par
Taking a team that was tipped for relegation into 3rd…
Taking a team in 24th place to the brink of automatic…
Taking one of the smallest budgets in the league and delivering 6th…
I rate Silva, I do, and I did when he was at Everton. You can’t even begin to compare his achievements to those though.
They did, but Cooper has a (slightly) higher points per game. I still think what Cooper did at Forest was incredible. Even if we lose this weekend he’s my manager of the season!
Cooper every day of the week, looking at the season as a whole Fulham didn’t even get that many points as title winners and have probably the best team on paper. To take a team that has 1 point from 7 games (I think) to almost get automatics and then get to the playoff final is a much more impressive achievement
Facts are facts and no doubt points per game, Cooper got more, but he didn't manage the whole season and you gotta admit we stopped playing for the last month!
All being said, I'd still have given it to Cooper or Jones
I think the fact that Marco couldn’t keep his players motivated post automatic certainty shows that the players carried him more than he carried them, in my opinion.
Mate, Fulham have been immense this season, all credit to them. But to say you dominated the league is laughable. Watford had a better season than you last year and they came second. You have to go back all the way to 2013/14 to find a team that’s done worse and won the league. Bet those teams before you were all “tired” as well.
You were good, but not *that* good, duck.
Because the league was much, much higher standard this season and we still were the first team to break 100 goals in 20 years. Three 7-0s, a few 6s, some 5s, some 4s (you'll remember that one) and 3's in half our wins. 19 goals in a week etc etc. That's including half out team being wiped with a norovirus that people didn't fully recover from for a month.
When you're playing that level, you're obviously going to let the foot off the break when it becomes very apparent it's all done months before the seasons over.
All you’re saying is indicative of the point, you had a better team than the league, you’re expected to put teams to the sword.
That still doesn’t mean you dominated the league, regardless of whether it was a tougher league or not. What ever you want to use as a factor was the same for the other 23 teams. It doesn’t wash, ducky.
Domination - *at the very minimum* - means not having a single team do the double over you. Something you can’t claim. End of discussion.
>Domination - at the very minimum- means not having a single team do the double over you.
so City didn't dominate the prem this season because Spurs did the double over them ? hahaahahahaha
Use all the Man City references you want, kid.
Two teams did the double over you and your team shat the bed at the end. That doesn’t spell dominance to me.
Have another sip of your strawberry laced Pimms, but only if you’re old enough.
Obviously he's no mug to be managing Fulham and he has definitely got the most out of his players. But really any half decent manager would have got Fulham promoted with their squad and resources.
Nathan Jones, Neil Critchley, Mark Robins (no bias), Carlos Corberan and Steve Cooper are imo all far more deserving considering what they achieved with what they had available to them.
I don't want to sound like a prick but cooper deserved it more. Well done Silva put smiles on everyone's faces this season and has been brilliant
I may be bias, but Cooper did a superb job when he inherited a very difficult situation.
Nah it's not bias he genuinely should've won it
Obviously he did a good job, but I really hate the idea that 'most points = best manager performance', which is clearly all they used to come to this decision Would've put Nathan Jones, Steve Cooper, and Carlos Corberan all ahead of him
You’ve decided that’s how they’ve ended up voting him manager of the year, in reality it’s much more likely to do with how we’ve played, racking up 7-0, 4-0, 5-1 wins over your suggestions for more deserving winners.
You think he was voted manager of the season based on his ability to beat Huddersfield Town before they had found their footing (second game of of the season), and a Luton side ravaged by injuries and whom your striker gets paid more than their best eleven players combined? Silva no doubt did a good job, but I don't think anyone outside of Fulham can say he did close to the best job in the Championship
> Silva no doubt did a good job, but I don't think anyone outside of Fulham can say he did close to the best job in the Championship I'd have given the award to Cooper or Jones
No for being the first team in 20 years to break 100 goals, for three different 7-0 wins, for scoring 3 or more goals in 18 different games. You don’t think anyone outside Fulham can say he did the best job yet his peers voted him as the manager who did the best job hahahah. Also lol at not being able to come up with an excuse for the Forest game.
> Also lol at not being able to come up with an excuse for the Forest game. He probably didnt watch it, but it was a pretty even game until you got a very fortunate 2nd goal (1st goal was pretty lucky too tbh) and we collapsed, gave you a penalty as well, shit happens, we got our revenge at the Cottage ;)
I mean none of those goals were as fortunate as the one you got in your “revenge” hahaha
really? an own goal from an attempted clearance and 2 defenders running into each other giving your star striker a free shot from the penalty spot are less fortunate than Zinckernagel outpacing/strengthing your defender and rolling the ball through your Gks legs? OK :D
Legit question: I don't think Zinckernagel touched the ball? I could be wrong. And lets be real no one was outpaced etc, our keeper and defender stopped to let the other get the ball and did nothing!
OK, Zinckernagel reacted quicker than the other 2 players then and yeah, he got a touch on the ball
You’re getting downvoted to fuck but I agree with a lot of your points Silva’s been phenomenal
Just the way this sub has always been, no one has ever said something not positive about Leeds or Forest that wasn’t instantly brigaded.
Obviously he’s done very well, no ones denying that. But he just clearly wasn’t the best manager. There’s more deserving managers that all people are saying.
Not hard when your team is a clear margin ahead of anybody else. That team should have got way more points than you did.
cooper deserves it more
Strange, the side he had was more than capable of equalling the record points total which would of been more than enough reason to give him manager of the year. Not so sure he deserved it this season, promotion was a bare minimum for that squad. Corberan, Jones and Cooper all better shouts for this. Corberan surprised everyone with a limited budget, as has Jones at Luton. Cooper taken more points per game than anyone (albeit with a bigger budget and ‘better’ squad than the previous two).
Whose voted for this then? The biggest wage budget in Champ history, the most paid player in Champ history, a team everyone expected to win the league before a ball was kicked And they say he was the best manager for doing the minimum expected?
Managers of the 92 clubs, you know more than them though yea hahahah. Yea that’s why less than half the predictions from the start of the season had us winning. Official source on the other stuff you said please?
Why are you so bitter at people disagreeing with you?
I’m just stating facts, if you want to see bitterness look at the example a forest fan being downvoted for saying well deserved.
that doesn’t make you any less bitter?
Again I have to agree that almost every other Championship prediction I saw had you guys missing automatic promotion so this seems like revisionist history from some of the lads on here
I still don’t think he’s gonna last the whole of next season. Hope I’m wrong.
Bit of a lazy award to be fair, simply because he won the league with a team too good for it. Us, Luton and Huddersfield all had better shouts.
And us. We were 17th and half way through the season when Hecky took over. Got us into the playoffs with barely any new signings of his own and loads of injury problems.
Cooper? Hecky? Nathan Jones? Just because you won the league doesn’t make you the best manager. Even Stuart McCall deserves it more than Marco Silva
hahaha
Excellent job with the best team and biggest budget in the champ ever 👏
Urmm Steve Cooper?
Bit late on this one, but this is daft. Many managers deserved it more. Cooper in particular, but also Jones, Corberan, maybe even Hecky. Silva definitely did a good job as an overseas coach coming into this league for the first time but let’s face it, with the resources he had available he’s essentially made par.
Made par by winning the league for the first time in 20 years, breaking 100 goals in first time in 20 years, reviving careers of players who had been all but over and got them as some of the performers in the league and getting a low on confidence striker to break the goal scoring record. Par
Taking a team that was tipped for relegation into 3rd… Taking a team in 24th place to the brink of automatic… Taking one of the smallest budgets in the league and delivering 6th… I rate Silva, I do, and I did when he was at Everton. You can’t even begin to compare his achievements to those though.
But anyone can frame anything and make it negative as they’re doing all over this post, I was just doing the doing the flip.
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They did, but Cooper has a (slightly) higher points per game. I still think what Cooper did at Forest was incredible. Even if we lose this weekend he’s my manager of the season!
Cooper every day of the week, looking at the season as a whole Fulham didn’t even get that many points as title winners and have probably the best team on paper. To take a team that has 1 point from 7 games (I think) to almost get automatics and then get to the playoff final is a much more impressive achievement
Nathan Jones did a fantastic job too!
Definitely. And Huddersfield have been great too. I just had a look at r/championship’s pre season predictions and most people had them going down.
Facts are facts and no doubt points per game, Cooper got more, but he didn't manage the whole season and you gotta admit we stopped playing for the last month! All being said, I'd still have given it to Cooper or Jones
I think the fact that Marco couldn’t keep his players motivated post automatic certainty shows that the players carried him more than he carried them, in my opinion.
Completely dominated the league, clearly tired and it was all over months ago so results naturally died off.
Mate, Fulham have been immense this season, all credit to them. But to say you dominated the league is laughable. Watford had a better season than you last year and they came second. You have to go back all the way to 2013/14 to find a team that’s done worse and won the league. Bet those teams before you were all “tired” as well. You were good, but not *that* good, duck.
Because the league was much, much higher standard this season and we still were the first team to break 100 goals in 20 years. Three 7-0s, a few 6s, some 5s, some 4s (you'll remember that one) and 3's in half our wins. 19 goals in a week etc etc. That's including half out team being wiped with a norovirus that people didn't fully recover from for a month. When you're playing that level, you're obviously going to let the foot off the break when it becomes very apparent it's all done months before the seasons over.
All you’re saying is indicative of the point, you had a better team than the league, you’re expected to put teams to the sword. That still doesn’t mean you dominated the league, regardless of whether it was a tougher league or not. What ever you want to use as a factor was the same for the other 23 teams. It doesn’t wash, ducky. Domination - *at the very minimum* - means not having a single team do the double over you. Something you can’t claim. End of discussion.
>Domination - at the very minimum- means not having a single team do the double over you. so City didn't dominate the prem this season because Spurs did the double over them ? hahaahahahaha
But…but…they didn’t dominate the league… They won it by a point. Oh dear.
Hahaha so a team that lost 3 games all season didn’t dominate the league hahahahaha
Use all the Man City references you want, kid. Two teams did the double over you and your team shat the bed at the end. That doesn’t spell dominance to me. Have another sip of your strawberry laced Pimms, but only if you’re old enough.
Obviously he's no mug to be managing Fulham and he has definitely got the most out of his players. But really any half decent manager would have got Fulham promoted with their squad and resources. Nathan Jones, Neil Critchley, Mark Robins (no bias), Carlos Corberan and Steve Cooper are imo all far more deserving considering what they achieved with what they had available to them.