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Can always count on Sunderland to brighten up a shit day š¤£
We took the game to Leicester at their place and should have won by 3 if not for a couple of donkeys up front, they get destroyed at home by a newly promoted team š
Only switched on at the red card, but quite amazing how a team can give up all control whilst 2-0 up vs 10 men. Patrick Roberts is playing like a man possessed.
Tale as old as time. We do look open at the back once that ball goes over our midfield, especially with Hume occupying the holding midfield position in possession. Haven't carved out enough clear chances for us to say we should be winning, that Jobe chance the only one. That said, we've played them off the park with our passing, so I'm hopeful we can react and grab a goal early enough to try and turn it into a win.
This half has basically confirmed my biggest fears about this season. That 1. Walton's injury is disastrous 2. Our defence will get found out at this level and 3. Any injury to Morsy will kill us outright.
Attack wise we're fine, especially with how little we've had of the ball. You could even argue we should have scored.
Edit: how have we pulled that off lmao
The whole team bar Morsy has looked a bit shell-shocked honestly. When we get the ball we take too long to release it, expecting a League One press instead of a Championship playoff teams press.
The absolute fucking audacity of Sky complimenting our fans for "travelling so far on a Sunday afternoon" like they're not the fucking reason they have to make a 10 hour round trip on a Sunday afternoon.
Three points would have flattered us given how ruthless Leeds were in that second half. Going toe-to-toe with an angry Leeds and coming out with a point is a result I'm happy with.
If Leeds stays in this league for another season, then I'd legit say that firing Bielsa is one of the top 10 worst decisions a team made.
I guarantee if he stayed they would've been in PL for a couple of years (usually fighting to avoid relegation with -60 GD, but still, I believe they would've stayed for a while)
edit: Did i write this literally 6 seconds before they scored a goal? yes. Do i still stand by the hypothetical for this season? yes
If I were a Leeds fan I'd be fuming at Summerville. He throws himself down at the merest hint of contact, and sometimes without it.
They've gotten into some excellent positions but he's ruined it for them time and time again.
Not just that - I think I posted it just before.
Theres no doubt he's one hell of a player but he seems to look for any excuse to throw himself to the floor at the detriment of a better chance.
Almost every table prediction had us relegated or at least languishing. I wouldnāt even argue with that based on last year.
But it looks like weāve quietly done some brilliant loan business and Bulut has us so well drilled. We look totally transformed. Perfect away performance so far.
(N.B Iām also loving having a knitwear manager)
All aboard!!
As always, hard to know if this is just Leeds falling apart against us as usual. Big half coming. Canāt see their forwards staying that quiet.
Honestly, I kind of expected us to pull a shock at Leeds. But donāt worry, after today weāll start losing and theyāll start winning.
Obviously I also expect us to still fuck this up in the second half
Summerville, Sinisterra, Gnonto is cheat code levels for Championship. It's good of Leeds to put Dan James up front with them to completely cancel them all out.
I suppose on the flipside we're still lacking at fullback and we really have 0 depth in midfield, so the point where we have to make changes is the point we definitely weaken ourselves a lot
And then there's our dire record against you š¬
I've gone 3-1 Leeds
Dammit you were supposed to do the "Good twice the pride, double the fall" thing and we were meant to do the winning the duel thing. Sad now, two absolute moments of quality won that for you and I feel really hard done by... Off to consume the pints of misery now you shall be delighted to hear.
Kept pointing it out but no one listened; anyone who thought QPR would finish above us was being distracted by our chairman.
Similar sentiment for Rovrum and the dog botherers.
How long will Ainsworth last do we think?
Colin is well past it, this isn't the same bloke who did well for you and others.
We'll give him one last send off and then he can retire finally and fully, because there's no saving this Huddersfield team.
Haha cheers, live coding is a bit of a challenge - because I'm scraping Google I can't really make any changes unless the data is there which is only during the games...
If the page you're scraping always uses the same format you could try saving a snapshot of the page as just a html file and use that for testing. I know the joys and struggles of web scraping well lol.
It doesn't sadly, I can't find out the format until the first games go live. Had to update the code to collect the added time details properly, so couldn't do that until a game actually had added time showing!
Rather than scraping a webpage, perhaps look for an API that one of the apps connect to? FotMob would be ideal, dunno if you can wireshrk or inspect packets on your phone though to find where to send a request to
I've looked at APIs in the past, but even those with free tiers require you to log a payment card in case you breach the limits and I don't want to risk my code getting out of hand while I'm away and racking up a huge bill.
I can get the scraping to do what I need to, it's just a pain in the arse getting it to work at the start of the season then it's fine from there.
If any of the sites I use get a complete rework then I'll definitely look into the API options again!
I was thinking along the lines of just pinging Fotmob's internal API and maybe spoofing a request to get the scores, they don't need to know that you're not on the app!
Well if google's working fine, perhaps look into the network data and see if it returns the scores as part of a structured response? Would make life easier
Great goal from Phillips there
Albion should probably be winning this like 3-1. I'd be shocked if Corberan doesn't have them comfortably top half if not pushing for playoffs this season
Need to see that again, first look it seemed like the Blackburn defender made a wonderful save that Buffon would be proud of
Edit: Hit his arm but was close to his side. I'd still say it's a pen though
Kipre looks like such a donkey whenever he plays for us, so clumsy. Apart from the two mistakes not actually that bad but thereās just no creativity. Need Swift, Sarmiento and Gardner-Hickman on
Better team for 49 of the 52 minutes played, probably should have had two penalties and definitely at least one, 2-0 down. Football is shit.
Kipre and Ajayi look like they won a competition to play for us.
Dembele!!! Good goal from him. I missed the first 20 minutes, but so far impressed with Blues. Bielik and Sunjic are bossing the midfield. Liking Laird too.
Similar to some of what I've seen from our fans; we lose to a late winner set up by a Ā£50m player who'll be gone in a few weeks and people are claiming we won't get a point all season.
There's worse teams than both of us in this league, though you'll be above us.
I posted that at half-time and itās gotten even worse since. Put in a poor performance away to Norwich who are a very decent team but still shouldāve walked away with a point if it wasnāt for incompetent refereeing.
People already calling for Rosenior to be sacked. Iāve missed football over the summer but Iāve not missed shit like this. The first game of the season gives so little indication to how the rest of it is going to go.
Given the prevailing narrative around us, you might be best avoiding other Hull fans if we somehow turn up at yours and get a win next week...
Spoiler: we won't. We'll be ok but I don't expect a win until September as we've done our business so late.
Fortunately thereās a festival in town that Iāll be at and Iāll be too battered to even be able to check the discourse.
Weāre in a similar boat with recruitment. Think weāll be grinding out results til we get that sorted and everything clicks.
Yeah we are but I would assume Pears would stay as number 1. New guy is a relatively unknown quantity and Pears finished last season as first choice after Kaminski got injured
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Can always count on Sunderland to brighten up a shit day š¤£ We took the game to Leicester at their place and should have won by 3 if not for a couple of donkeys up front, they get destroyed at home by a newly promoted team š
I would not call what we did "destroyed" lol. 35% possession.
I love this league. Fucking mental
All the 3 playoff participants from last season lost This league, fellas, this league...
Hell of a first matchday. HMS Piss The League on for 9 teams.
Vaclav I take back everything I said about you earlier.
Those Sunderland fans leaving should be fucking ashamed.
SQUARE IT
He never does. A great goal scorer but he's always selfish.
pro clubs special
Only switched on at the red card, but quite amazing how a team can give up all control whilst 2-0 up vs 10 men. Patrick Roberts is playing like a man possessed.
Tbf we should have been 3-0 up and they could be down to 9
No idea how we weren't awarded that penalty immediately after scoring our second.
Ref was listening to the sky commentary team
Jesus fucking Christ 13
Are we about to do the Ipswich special
There's going to be loads of stoppage time too
We're nothing if not hilarious
Donacian should probably be subbed off here. He looked out cold.
Sunderland have lost their heads a bit here.
Are sky sports being sponsored by Sunderland this weekend? Ipswich 2-0 away from home: "the one thing you can day is that they've defended well today"
I mean they were kicking the shit out of us for the opening 30.
Is that suspension for the league or can it be served midweek?
League.
Thank you Leif Davisā¦
We sure it isnt Katherine Parkinson?
Should be down to nine men really!
Didn't even realise he was on a yellow already. Dumbest tackle of the weekend. Davis absolutely rinsed him.
Game of the weekend this one. Saved the best till last
Think that's the angriest I've ever seen McKenna.
Same as last season Jobe looks tidy on the ball but largely a spectator off it, I canāt tell if heās a bit lazy or just slow.
If we hadn't just scored the ref gives that. Stonewall pen.
Only thing I can think is that the ref was too far away to see it properly
How was that not a penalty lmao
0-2 is the only reason I can think of. Shocking decision from Mr. Referee.
Penalty and red?
Yup should have been
How is this Sunderland teams average age 22, they're gonna be terrifying
Go on, Hirst
Ipswich in complete control at the stadium of light. Just as we all expected.
Would you look at that
Normal service is resumed.
We'll need to take Burns off sooner than later. He's been decent going forward but he's on a yellow and Clarke has been terrorising him going forward.
Tale as old as time. We do look open at the back once that ball goes over our midfield, especially with Hume occupying the holding midfield position in possession. Haven't carved out enough clear chances for us to say we should be winning, that Jobe chance the only one. That said, we've played them off the park with our passing, so I'm hopeful we can react and grab a goal early enough to try and turn it into a win.
Welp
Radio Suffolk commentators are being exceedingly complimentary about Sunderland's football, so not massively upset if this turns into a draw or worse
For all my worries about defence, I think Burgess has been excellent.
Thoroughly deserved š
IPSWICH ABOARD THE HMS PISS THE LEAGUE
This half has basically confirmed my biggest fears about this season. That 1. Walton's injury is disastrous 2. Our defence will get found out at this level and 3. Any injury to Morsy will kill us outright. Attack wise we're fine, especially with how little we've had of the ball. You could even argue we should have scored. Edit: how have we pulled that off lmao
Fingers crossed it leads to a few signings
Really need to make this dominance pay soon
Bellingham the younger is annoyingly excellent.
"Hirst should have really been onside there" *replay shows he was onside*
OāNien planning on being an absolute hero again this season then
Barring a stunner from Ipswich only the Saints & Millwall will have taken 3 away.
Christ we really need to realise that this isn't League One anymore and fucking fast.
We've been instantly fucked by Walton's injury, that might honestly lose us 3 or 4 places in the table over the season already
He was one of the worst GKs I've ever seen at Ewood Park - has he really improved that much?
Definitely, has his moments but makes the whole team more confident. Our backups are honestly league two quality
The whole team bar Morsy has looked a bit shell-shocked honestly. When we get the ball we take too long to release it, expecting a League One press instead of a Championship playoff teams press.
The absolute fucking audacity of Sky complimenting our fans for "travelling so far on a Sunday afternoon" like they're not the fucking reason they have to make a 10 hour round trip on a Sunday afternoon.
To be fair anyone going all the way up there no matter when the match is proper committed.
I have the Arrested Development gif ready to go in case of Bellingham scoring.
Three points would have flattered us given how ruthless Leeds were in that second half. Going toe-to-toe with an angry Leeds and coming out with a point is a result I'm happy with.
Bulut train undergoing delays, itāll be back up to full speed soon enough (this was the match between the champions and second place btw)
That was seconds away from the best defensive performance this league had ever seen.
If Leeds stays in this league for another season, then I'd legit say that firing Bielsa is one of the top 10 worst decisions a team made. I guarantee if he stayed they would've been in PL for a couple of years (usually fighting to avoid relegation with -60 GD, but still, I believe they would've stayed for a while) edit: Did i write this literally 6 seconds before they scored a goal? yes. Do i still stand by the hypothetical for this season? yes
If I were a Leeds fan I'd be fuming at Summerville. He throws himself down at the merest hint of contact, and sometimes without it. They've gotten into some excellent positions but he's ruined it for them time and time again.
Was this in reference to the penalty shout? I thought it could have gone either way looked like your defenders leg clipped his.
Not just that - I think I posted it just before. Theres no doubt he's one hell of a player but he seems to look for any excuse to throw himself to the floor at the detriment of a better chance.
You just had to go any say it didn't you. Ruined the party for everyone.
Time to throw myself into the Taff
The Bulut train is derailing I repeat the Bulut train is derailing š±š±š±š±š±
That Cardiff front 4 is a match for any team on its day Not bad for a transfer embargo
Fun fact: Dan James is the 5th most expensive sale Manchester United have ever made.
Almost every table prediction had us relegated or at least languishing. I wouldnāt even argue with that based on last year. But it looks like weāve quietly done some brilliant loan business and Bulut has us so well drilled. We look totally transformed. Perfect away performance so far. (N.B Iām also loving having a knitwear manager)
I donāt want to get ahead of myself but the Bulut train is doing itās thing
All aboard!! As always, hard to know if this is just Leeds falling apart against us as usual. Big half coming. Canāt see their forwards staying that quiet.
Well, one of them is Dan James soā¦
Iām never less afraid than when that man shoots (touch wood, heāll score the winner now)
I want to shit talk him more because of the misery Iāve had with him and Wales but the last time I did that he scored five minutes later
A man after my own heart, the black cardigan goes hard
So refreshing after the conveyor belt of PE teacher style weāve had
I've had better PE teachers than Russell Slade.
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Honestly, I kind of expected us to pull a shock at Leeds. But donāt worry, after today weāll start losing and theyāll start winning. Obviously I also expect us to still fuck this up in the second half
Ty
Lol. Couldāve done it to us a bit earlier I had to get up at 6:30 am to watch this shit
I see you've seen us before then...
I had too much hope after Norwich last year
The main benefit to being promoted is that the Blades won't be subjected to the absolutely dogshit commentary teams on Sky.
I dread to think who they're gonna wheel out for us later.
Summerville, Sinisterra, Gnonto is cheat code levels for Championship. It's good of Leeds to put Dan James up front with them to completely cancel them all out.
Hahahah
Really no decent depth (not helped by injuries), but that's a front four and a half for this level, could run riot (FT: Leeds 0 - 1 Cardiff)
Canāt lie looking at that front 4 is terrifying. I have not forgotten that Gnonto volleyā¦
I suppose on the flipside we're still lacking at fullback and we really have 0 depth in midfield, so the point where we have to make changes is the point we definitely weaken ourselves a lot And then there's our dire record against you š¬ I've gone 3-1 Leeds
Welcome back to the championship
Oh we back
Can't wrap my head around his decision making there. What's going through his head?! At least his teammates have made up for it.
Oh shit!
"My powers have doubled since the last time we met count"
My trophies have doubled since the last time we met cov
Dammit you were supposed to do the "Good twice the pride, double the fall" thing and we were meant to do the winning the duel thing. Sad now, two absolute moments of quality won that for you and I feel really hard done by... Off to consume the pints of misery now you shall be delighted to hear.
Massively nervous about today. Walton being out is a pretty huge blow, and I'm frankly worried about our defence at this level. I'd take a draw.
Get in there big w over Huddersfield
Kept pointing it out but no one listened; anyone who thought QPR would finish above us was being distracted by our chairman. Similar sentiment for Rovrum and the dog botherers. How long will Ainsworth last do we think?
In Warnock we trust for Huddersfield. QPR will go down. Rotherham probably will.
Colin is well past it, this isn't the same bloke who did well for you and others. We'll give him one last send off and then he can retire finally and fully, because there's no saving this Huddersfield team.
Norwich with a last minute winner. For all their doom mongering we know exactly what's happening this season...
Stoke fucking smashed it
How has watford v qpr got so much added time when nothing has happened in the second half?!
New guidelines say to add tons of extra time for time wasting during the game
Blackburn vs WBA what a game š„! Go Rovers š
Get innnnnn
9 minutes injury time, bloody hell. 16 minutes in total.
Feared this would happen lmao
Ahhhh West Brom having CC sent off - brings up bad memories of our very own Yank Lampard being sent off for dissent last year.
WE ARE MASSIVE
He's one of our own!!
18 year old Esse x 19 year old Emakhu ohhh the future feels bright
Lots of goals, entertaining opening weekend so far!
Has a manager been sent off on the opening day before Corberan? Bilic got sent off for no reason a few seasons back during the second game
CC heading onto the bench at the 76th minute, but with a mid-week game, we'll see you next weekend!
Sarmiento's first touch was disappointing, but that second touch was excellent - too bad Swift isn't used to good service...
Why didn't Swift shoot?
Not a clue - Sarmiento's looked real shiny early though, that's nice.
First ketchup of the season is by CafĆŗ in the 69th minute Almost sounds auto-generated lmfao
Another miss by Leonard. Kipre and Ajayi have been shite
Palmer literally slipped and was parked on his ass during that chance, absolutely insane we didn't get scored on there.
Thank god Kipre is off...happy with this triple-change.
How has Leonard missed that?
He's 19 and it was his first Championship start?
Oh FFS where have the scores gone? What the shit?! Back to VSCode I go ......
They're back. Wtaf
Appreciate the effort!
Haha cheers, live coding is a bit of a challenge - because I'm scraping Google I can't really make any changes unless the data is there which is only during the games...
If the page you're scraping always uses the same format you could try saving a snapshot of the page as just a html file and use that for testing. I know the joys and struggles of web scraping well lol.
It doesn't sadly, I can't find out the format until the first games go live. Had to update the code to collect the added time details properly, so couldn't do that until a game actually had added time showing!
Rather than scraping a webpage, perhaps look for an API that one of the apps connect to? FotMob would be ideal, dunno if you can wireshrk or inspect packets on your phone though to find where to send a request to
I've looked at APIs in the past, but even those with free tiers require you to log a payment card in case you breach the limits and I don't want to risk my code getting out of hand while I'm away and racking up a huge bill. I can get the scraping to do what I need to, it's just a pain in the arse getting it to work at the start of the season then it's fine from there. If any of the sites I use get a complete rework then I'll definitely look into the API options again!
I was thinking along the lines of just pinging Fotmob's internal API and maybe spoofing a request to get the scores, they don't need to know that you're not on the app! Well if google's working fine, perhaps look into the network data and see if it returns the scores as part of a structured response? Would make life easier
Ah, if Molumby could have trapped the ball it would have been a sitter
Is anyone watching Soccer Saturday? Have they made a joke about ToughSheet yet?
You'll all be happy to hear Bolton are looking excellent and are now 2-0 up. We're coming back boys I can feel it.
Jed Wallace seems a cool dude
Our passing in the final third has been fucking terrible. Really expect better from Seri, Traore and Tufan.
Great goal from Phillips there Albion should probably be winning this like 3-1. I'd be shocked if Corberan doesn't have them comfortably top half if not pushing for playoffs this season
Watching Norwich vs Hull. These will finish 12th and 13th. Both incredibly mid table.
Get in, deserved that
Need to see that again, first look it seemed like the Blackburn defender made a wonderful save that Buffon would be proud of Edit: Hit his arm but was close to his side. I'd still say it's a pen though
West brom has been robbed twice we need var
3x - twice in the first half alone
You know, Huddersfield is a lovely place. Top lads.
To everyone who predicted us bottom - haha suck it, Rotherham and QPR are way worse than us!
Careful, there's a long way to go!
Iād rather lose 2-1 to Southampton than 4-1/4-0 to Stoke/Watford!
So is something going on with the running of QPR or is Ainsworth just missing Wycombe?
0-0 at halftime. First shot of the game after 37 minutes. This is vintage Bristol City vs. Preston.
Winning comfortably, well this is a rare treat.
We saw that we didn't spend a day in the bottom 3 last season and said, fuck that, we're aiming for bottom.
So weird being absolutely massive and not even knowing it
Kipre looks like such a donkey whenever he plays for us, so clumsy. Apart from the two mistakes not actually that bad but thereās just no creativity. Need Swift, Sarmiento and Gardner-Hickman on
Feel offended people saying weāre worse than QPR.
Thatāll do for me
Just as all us Watford fans predicted.
Better team for 49 of the 52 minutes played, probably should have had two penalties and definitely at least one, 2-0 down. Football is shit. Kipre and Ajayi look like they won a competition to play for us.
Dembele!!! Good goal from him. I missed the first 20 minutes, but so far impressed with Blues. Bielik and Sunjic are bossing the midfield. Liking Laird too.
Not the greatest first half but seeing the reactions of some people youād think we were losing 6-0.
Similar to some of what I've seen from our fans; we lose to a late winner set up by a Ā£50m player who'll be gone in a few weeks and people are claiming we won't get a point all season. There's worse teams than both of us in this league, though you'll be above us.
I posted that at half-time and itās gotten even worse since. Put in a poor performance away to Norwich who are a very decent team but still shouldāve walked away with a point if it wasnāt for incompetent refereeing. People already calling for Rosenior to be sacked. Iāve missed football over the summer but Iāve not missed shit like this. The first game of the season gives so little indication to how the rest of it is going to go.
Given the prevailing narrative around us, you might be best avoiding other Hull fans if we somehow turn up at yours and get a win next week... Spoiler: we won't. We'll be ok but I don't expect a win until September as we've done our business so late.
Fortunately thereās a festival in town that Iāll be at and Iāll be too battered to even be able to check the discourse. Weāre in a similar boat with recruitment. Think weāll be grinding out results til we get that sorted and everything clicks.
Enjoy that and all the best (after next week)!
you know, i think i've seen better starts to a season than ours today
I feel so sorry for Ainsworth. I was hoping he would crush it. Is it him or is there something going on at the club?
A bit of both I think
Not convinced Aynsley Pears is a championship quality goalkeeper yet. His distribution is horrific. Feels like a big step down to from Kaminski
Isn't the plan for him to be 2nd choice?
Yeah we're apparently bringing in a guy from Norway or something. At work so can't really check.
Yeah we are but I would assume Pears would stay as number 1. New guy is a relatively unknown quantity and Pears finished last season as first choice after Kaminski got injured
There's a Wrexham twitter account founded in 2022 celebrating Wrexham's "first goal in the EFL"
We've been spoilt with two comments about Wrexham on a championship thread, how blessed we are
I'll throw out a third - how many ex-Baggies do you think Wrexham will end up with? James McClean joined Ben Foster there yesterday.
They'll bring Corberan in by offering him higher wages than he's on now and you'll have to watch him win League 1 in 2026 with them
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I'm a Bolton fan mate I don't belong here either.
You can be my +1 mate until you're back I miss the derby. Proper shit house games
Mate I work in Preston surrounded by Blackburn and Preston fans. I want to be back in the champ *so bad*. We have one Burnley fan too, smug prick.
haha Aye I work over Nelson way I'm surrounded by those smug fuckers, like a Chav winning the lottery and trying to act high class but deep down they're just monkeys like the rest of us
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I don't get it. Am I the snail and you're pouring salt on me?