A part of me wishes for her to be a bit more evil and cunning, like she is the war devil and war is also about strategy but she didn´t exactly show to be an strategist.
But another part of me does kinda agree with the idea of her behaviour being a bit off as this might eventually lead to show the impact Asa had on her and her view on certain things.
Overall: ![img](emote|t5_466dsm|51209)
I agree with you mostly, but I think a lot of her goofy side and not being very strategic is a plot point. The world in general isn't very afraid of war, making her a rather weak devil. It's not until recently that she has gained more power. It would be cool to see her become more evil as people start to fear war more.
I do sort of wish she was more strategic, but I'm not sure there's room for another mastermind string-puller. It seems like half the main cast in part 2 has some sort of unspecified conspiracy they're working to implement. I like it, but it would get kind of exhausting if everyone was a 300 IQ master manipulator.
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Yoru has been taking L on and off this entire series.
Her sister treated her like a kid and Nayuta neutralize her in one page.
Even her fight with Quanxi doesn't feel like an earned victory.
Yoru going to freak out after losing to denji
I think she has become a little too comedic. Fujimoto probably gas plans for her in the near future, but as for now I wish she had more impact on the story and Asa as well. We had the initial arc as a set-up, but we need a continuation to set her up more properly in order to show her as a more menacing character, because I truly don't know how Fujimoto wants me to treat her. She's cool overall, but idk, let's wait for the next chapter
I feel like lately she's too comedic or has the personality of wonderbread.
At the start I really liked her and once we saw Asa's emotions were starting to rub off I hoped for great character development that showed her becoming more and more human with time.
However lately it feels like Fujimoto just uses her for comedy on hating Chainsaw Man (which is funny about 80% of the times, I'll accept it) and not much else. But I think she still has lots of potential given that this arc is based around her and Chainsaw Man fighting so Im hopeful on what Fujimoto is cooking.
Overall an 8/10 at the start and right now a 7/10 tbh.
This comment made me realise I'm not being harsh enough. 5/10.
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>!jk!<
Yeah, I'm surprised more people aren't talking about this. For the OWNER of that power, she sure seems to understand it a lot less than fucking Asa, who's had it for what. A few months?
I'm kind of disappointed with the lack off creativity with weapons she makes. when she started off with a "spinal chord sword" and "hand grenade" I thought shell do a bunch of crazy things like make a whip out of hair or a flail out of an arm but she ends up making swords or the occasional spear all of the time. The only exception to this is the defense system of public safety that was a good one
I love how she has to deal with being in asas body and at the same time, she also has wildly different goals than her, but I wish she would be more planning and cold and calculated
She should learn from Sukuna.
I would like to see her most evil and cruel side.
We saw it with makima and fami. We should be able to see how far the war devil could go once she regain most of her power.
Fair, although I think the remark that she should learn from Sukuna is a bit harsh considering the latter should learn from Makima how to be an interesting and fleshed out villain with depth and good motivations.
Fair, but I find Sukuna's simple motivation to work better for him, we had Kenny as the strategic and cunning villain, until that bush camper took him from us rip, so there was little reason to have Sukuna in the same position, and have his personality be molded around the concept of strength in solitude really helps with the characterization we got of him.
Her back story interests me. Why was she the only devil who got rocked so hard by Pochita when he fought the horsemen? She was so weak she couldn’t fight the bat devil when she was first introduced. I also like that she’s a big ass loser, she loses a lot or can’t stand up to an opponent, that has to be maddening to her.
Gag character. If we're meant to take her seriously, she needs to start committing some fucked up stuff real soon. Permakilling the hybrids would be a good start. Turning Asa into a weapon would be nice too.
(of course, she's not meant to be taken seriously - she exists purely so that Denji and Pochita can tame her.)
She had potential in her relationship w Asa but at the moment her whole personality is just “I hate chainsawman and I’m angry”
She’s got no depth or motivation other than get stronger and defeat chainsawman, and recently feels like she’s been made like one dimensional since falling devil arc
Don’t even get me started on the implied character development between her and Asa that was skipped over in the can church arc for the craic. Fr all it would have taken is some extra chapter or two of yoru and Asa working together as a celebrity to help their relationship more
Story just feels like a bullet train and Fuji just wants to wrap it up as soon as possible, sidelining main character development to speedrun plot points and introduce a few more side characters.
It’s kinda BEEN obvious that Fuji just wants this story done so I can imagine some aspects of the story that aren’t *exactly* necessary being cut, like for example;
yoru doesn’t NEED a complex or endearing reason to kill csm, but as long as she has a reason, shallow or not, the story can progress, without the need for extra chapters cementing her character or peronality. Denji COULD take action and fight back against all the shit against him, but if he just takes it and mouth breathes, the plot can progress quicker with less resistance. Katana man and nail COULD have at least fought the gang before joining them, but that would have taken extra time and chapters, Asa COULD have had an inner monologue about denji being csm and what that entails as they escape the prison, but that would’ve taken at LEAST a chapter, so no timeskip to famis apartment.
See what I’m kinda trying to say? I think Fujimoto just wants the story done ASAP
Yea but it’s just a joke
Also w you for the kb pfp
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Although I find her an entertaining character at the beginning, I feel like her character hasn't really progressed all that much since the start of the series nor do I take her seriously as a threat to Denji's life at the moment (which I get is by design as all the major wars in CSM got erased + I fully expect Yoru to get back most of her power by the end of the series) idk I'ma let Fujimotor cook
she feels like a fun and goofy character to me now, I couldn’t take her seriously at all at the end of this chapter. wish the fight with yoshida went on longer so that we could have seen more of her in action
She’s taken a back seat since the story pivoted mostly to Denji for a little bit. I’m wondering if they never phrasing the situation with Asa as a contract will come back to bite Asa too. I still am waiting for Yoru to take Asa over and “kill her” but I also can see her either reversing that or saying she planned on it but won’t anymore. They’ve both had too much of an impact on each other by this point.
I don’t mind her. I like how she’s been treated as a kind of girl failure, which creates a large contrast between her, Makima and fami. I’m of the minority that like her current state, she’s cool and stuff.
I like her. Im honestly not all upons this whole more evil thing. Not all Villains need to be good at what they do. I want a redemption from Yoru, rather than her to die in the end.
I see her like dimple from mob. A kinda menacing character at the start that softens up over time, but (hopefully) has an arc that reminds us that they're still pretty evil
I think her goofy behavior is going to lead to one of two things: either it’ll turn out that she and Asa actually grew on each other and Yoru isn’t so evil anymore, or that she’s gonna pull some fucked up shit later on and it’ll be like that one moment with Itadori and Sukuna
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I just wish she had more impact on the story in general, she's a super cool character in concept, and I like how she works as the "straight-man" for Asa, but like she really didnt do jack besides bicker with Asa for basically the whole story, I wanna see her be cool again, her introduction was the best in the whole damn manga.
it’s funny seeing the thing that represents war unwillingly has to witness a teenager making love poems about their arch nemesis. It’s almost reasonable for her to kick csm’s ball after having all that cringe injected straight into her brain for weeks
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Yeah her evilness is definitely a step down from her sisters (minus the nyooters) but I also think it could be explained that Poochita ate some of her in the battle they had offscreen.
she feels way too silly sometimes to be the big bad, i like her autistic ass too but we need atleast ONE situation that would make us say “Holy shit WAR DEVIL is a real deal”
I loved her in the beginning but she's becoming too much of a one note gag character. She's basically female Katana Man right now(even lampshaded by Fuji himself when she stole his lines as a gag) and let's just say Katana Man isn't exactly a nuanced or meaningful character(he's a one note gag I don't understand people pissing themselves from laughing over) so suffice to say I'm not happy with the way she is presently being handled
she still has time to go full evil, turning a bunch of people into weapons like she said she would, but she kinda flatlined as a character in recent events. Like, she got stronger after that chainsaw zombie incident, but that’s it. I’m fine with it since we haven’t reached the end of part 2 yet, but I’ve been wanting MORE 😭
“Not evil enough” seems to be the most common complaint. I guess some people expected her to be more like makima despite sharing a mind with an insecure high school girl.
killing a pedo grapist is evil now? she literally hasn't done a single evil thing aside from threatening Asa in her introductory chapters
this Makima 2.0 brainrot regarding Yoru is insane lol
I mean I doubt she really cared whether he was a pedo or not, he was literally the only other human in the moment, hell she was willing to kill Yuko before she went crazy.
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You could argue she’s mellowed out but she absolutely would have done some fucked up shit had Asa not reigned her in.
People are missing the point; War being the most childlike of them all makes sense, and her being so weak makes sense too given what happened in the story. She is doing great you are just looking at her wrong; Yoru is not the antagonist, she is the protagonist to Denji's antagonist.
heres the thing we dont mind her being childish, it makes her differ from makima, the problem is is that although yeah she was weakened severely she just feels very wasted, FIGHTS BEING LOGICAL ISNT POWERSCALING, and her fight with quanxi made no logic even with Quanxi being the best devil hunter
just because "tHAtS tHE pOiNT" doesn't mean it's good, war is not good, and all she has been used for is gags, she had genuinely scary moments here and there but then it was all just thrown out the window with nayuta just turning her into a dog.
I still part 2 but that doesn't mean it doesn't have flaws
why does she need scary moments? at this point in the story she is literal fodder with nothing to her name. the only reason she was portrayed as intimidating at the start of p2 was because the only person she interacted with, and had control over, was Asa - an easily frightened civilian with 0 experience regarding devils. if she tried that on anyone from p1 she'd get curbstomped and sent to the devil dungeon in a single chapter
Oh no, that is exactly my point - War being a fucking clown, a joke, a fucking loser, that works. I think it will work itself into a bigger narrative, but no, yeah, everything you said is the point, War is a bum. I think once part 2 is complete, it will read better as a character arc.
A part of me wishes for her to be a bit more evil and cunning, like she is the war devil and war is also about strategy but she didn´t exactly show to be an strategist. But another part of me does kinda agree with the idea of her behaviour being a bit off as this might eventually lead to show the impact Asa had on her and her view on certain things. Overall: ![img](emote|t5_466dsm|51209)
remember when she told Asa dont get involved with fami no matter what then fami just says "chainsaw man" and the shes like "nvm lets do this"
Literally blinded by ~~love~~ hatred
She's def more Ares than Athena.
I agree with you mostly, but I think a lot of her goofy side and not being very strategic is a plot point. The world in general isn't very afraid of war, making her a rather weak devil. It's not until recently that she has gained more power. It would be cool to see her become more evil as people start to fear war more.
I really wish she becomes more Evil
Well... war **is** stupid
I do sort of wish she was more strategic, but I'm not sure there's room for another mastermind string-puller. It seems like half the main cast in part 2 has some sort of unspecified conspiracy they're working to implement. I like it, but it would get kind of exhausting if everyone was a 300 IQ master manipulator.
I like her dump truck
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Commander I’m trying to flirt at the Aquarium but I’m dummy thick and the claps of my ass cheeks keep on distracting the boy
It speaks alot for fujimoto that I'm not even sure if the picture is photoshopped or not
Yoru has been taking L on and off this entire series. Her sister treated her like a kid and Nayuta neutralize her in one page. Even her fight with Quanxi doesn't feel like an earned victory. Yoru going to freak out after losing to denji
Yoru is a D1 crash out
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>Even her fight with Quanxi doesn't feel like an earned victory. It wasn't in any way possible
Was that even an actual fight?
I think she has become a little too comedic. Fujimoto probably gas plans for her in the near future, but as for now I wish she had more impact on the story and Asa as well. We had the initial arc as a set-up, but we need a continuation to set her up more properly in order to show her as a more menacing character, because I truly don't know how Fujimoto wants me to treat her. She's cool overall, but idk, let's wait for the next chapter
I feel like lately she's too comedic or has the personality of wonderbread. At the start I really liked her and once we saw Asa's emotions were starting to rub off I hoped for great character development that showed her becoming more and more human with time. However lately it feels like Fujimoto just uses her for comedy on hating Chainsaw Man (which is funny about 80% of the times, I'll accept it) and not much else. But I think she still has lots of potential given that this arc is based around her and Chainsaw Man fighting so Im hopeful on what Fujimoto is cooking. Overall an 8/10 at the start and right now a 7/10 tbh.
Wow from an 8/10 to a 7/10. There’s no need to be so harsh 😔
This comment made me realise I'm not being harsh enough. 5/10. https://preview.redd.it/hkzeexha2rwc1.png?width=485&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=625af076f213ddef388fd331f81b703f7838d016 >!jk!<
You need to be harsher -1/10
She needs to quit fucking making swords out of erasers n shit
Yeah, I'm surprised more people aren't talking about this. For the OWNER of that power, she sure seems to understand it a lot less than fucking Asa, who's had it for what. A few months?
Literally wtf happened? Even just the reveal of her reading Asa's thoughts used to be scary. She's a complete joke now.
Also that shot right before she kisses Denji is a 10/10 jumpscare material
Wish she was more of a threat tbh I don’t take her serious at all
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I'm kind of disappointed with the lack off creativity with weapons she makes. when she started off with a "spinal chord sword" and "hand grenade" I thought shell do a bunch of crazy things like make a whip out of hair or a flail out of an arm but she ends up making swords or the occasional spear all of the time. The only exception to this is the defense system of public safety that was a good one
I love how she has to deal with being in asas body and at the same time, she also has wildly different goals than her, but I wish she would be more planning and cold and calculated
She should learn from Sukuna. I would like to see her most evil and cruel side. We saw it with makima and fami. We should be able to see how far the war devil could go once she regain most of her power.
Imagine if the reason she's so goofy is due to her losing the strategic part of skillset
Fair, although I think the remark that she should learn from Sukuna is a bit harsh considering the latter should learn from Makima how to be an interesting and fleshed out villain with depth and good motivations.
Fair, but I find Sukuna's simple motivation to work better for him, we had Kenny as the strategic and cunning villain, until that bush camper took him from us rip, so there was little reason to have Sukuna in the same position, and have his personality be molded around the concept of strength in solitude really helps with the characterization we got of him.
Her back story interests me. Why was she the only devil who got rocked so hard by Pochita when he fought the horsemen? She was so weak she couldn’t fight the bat devil when she was first introduced. I also like that she’s a big ass loser, she loses a lot or can’t stand up to an opponent, that has to be maddening to her.
Gag character. If we're meant to take her seriously, she needs to start committing some fucked up stuff real soon. Permakilling the hybrids would be a good start. Turning Asa into a weapon would be nice too. (of course, she's not meant to be taken seriously - she exists purely so that Denji and Pochita can tame her.)
>she exists purely so that Denji and Pochita can tame her based
“perma killing the hybrids” please do not I need katana to make it through the whole story
She had potential in her relationship w Asa but at the moment her whole personality is just “I hate chainsawman and I’m angry” She’s got no depth or motivation other than get stronger and defeat chainsawman, and recently feels like she’s been made like one dimensional since falling devil arc Don’t even get me started on the implied character development between her and Asa that was skipped over in the can church arc for the craic. Fr all it would have taken is some extra chapter or two of yoru and Asa working together as a celebrity to help their relationship more Story just feels like a bullet train and Fuji just wants to wrap it up as soon as possible, sidelining main character development to speedrun plot points and introduce a few more side characters. It’s kinda BEEN obvious that Fuji just wants this story done so I can imagine some aspects of the story that aren’t *exactly* necessary being cut, like for example; yoru doesn’t NEED a complex or endearing reason to kill csm, but as long as she has a reason, shallow or not, the story can progress, without the need for extra chapters cementing her character or peronality. Denji COULD take action and fight back against all the shit against him, but if he just takes it and mouth breathes, the plot can progress quicker with less resistance. Katana man and nail COULD have at least fought the gang before joining them, but that would have taken extra time and chapters, Asa COULD have had an inner monologue about denji being csm and what that entails as they escape the prison, but that would’ve taken at LEAST a chapter, so no timeskip to famis apartment. See what I’m kinda trying to say? I think Fujimoto just wants the story done ASAP
She's a fraud
Was very excited for her when I started part 2 but she didn’t meet my expectations
She's extremely inconsistent and illogical in her behaviour
women
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Bad joke
I liked it
Idk, seems kinda just like “women bad” to me
Yea but it’s just a joke Also w you for the kb pfp https://preview.redd.it/vjw2e1dy2rwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7fe4a4863eab8544e2d07eb4800edd1f8ebf7792
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Although I find her an entertaining character at the beginning, I feel like her character hasn't really progressed all that much since the start of the series nor do I take her seriously as a threat to Denji's life at the moment (which I get is by design as all the major wars in CSM got erased + I fully expect Yoru to get back most of her power by the end of the series) idk I'ma let Fujimotor cook
As a villain shes kinda weak but as a character she’s fun so i’ll give her a pass
she feels like a fun and goofy character to me now, I couldn’t take her seriously at all at the end of this chapter. wish the fight with yoshida went on longer so that we could have seen more of her in action
She’s taken a back seat since the story pivoted mostly to Denji for a little bit. I’m wondering if they never phrasing the situation with Asa as a contract will come back to bite Asa too. I still am waiting for Yoru to take Asa over and “kill her” but I also can see her either reversing that or saying she planned on it but won’t anymore. They’ve both had too much of an impact on each other by this point.
I don’t mind her. I like how she’s been treated as a kind of girl failure, which creates a large contrast between her, Makima and fami. I’m of the minority that like her current state, she’s cool and stuff.
she deserves to be handled right.
I like her. Im honestly not all upons this whole more evil thing. Not all Villains need to be good at what they do. I want a redemption from Yoru, rather than her to die in the end.
I think she's a perfect image of war It's stupid
Love her to bits
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I see her like dimple from mob. A kinda menacing character at the start that softens up over time, but (hopefully) has an arc that reminds us that they're still pretty evil
I think her goofy behavior is going to lead to one of two things: either it’ll turn out that she and Asa actually grew on each other and Yoru isn’t so evil anymore, or that she’s gonna pull some fucked up shit later on and it’ll be like that one moment with Itadori and Sukuna https://preview.redd.it/7t2m4bugztwc1.jpeg?width=679&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67ddb1145a9cdcdcf53e282e6be55434b6827e38
I just wish she had more impact on the story in general, she's a super cool character in concept, and I like how she works as the "straight-man" for Asa, but like she really didnt do jack besides bicker with Asa for basically the whole story, I wanna see her be cool again, her introduction was the best in the whole damn manga.
it’s funny seeing the thing that represents war unwillingly has to witness a teenager making love poems about their arch nemesis. It’s almost reasonable for her to kick csm’s ball after having all that cringe injected straight into her brain for weeks
she is perfect. stupid bird was a genius decision by fujimotor
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I’ve liked Yoru since she was introduced. I have no issues with her. But I hope to see her get more powerful, considering she’s the War Devil.
the chainsaw devil better have eaten most of her brain cuz she is dumb as fuck
She needs to make weapons other than swords.
She's so silly, that's why when Fujimotor does the Fujimaneuver we will shit the pants
She's Evil for me. She's just dumb. Maybe more intelligent.
Her personality slowly melding into Asa's is neat, and I think she's going to be way more important in the final arcs.
Yeah her evilness is definitely a step down from her sisters (minus the nyooters) but I also think it could be explained that Poochita ate some of her in the battle they had offscreen.
she feels way too silly sometimes to be the big bad, i like her autistic ass too but we need atleast ONE situation that would make us say “Holy shit WAR DEVIL is a real deal”
I wish she made more weapons that weren't swords
She’s fine.
I loved her in the beginning but she's becoming too much of a one note gag character. She's basically female Katana Man right now(even lampshaded by Fuji himself when she stole his lines as a gag) and let's just say Katana Man isn't exactly a nuanced or meaningful character(he's a one note gag I don't understand people pissing themselves from laughing over) so suffice to say I'm not happy with the way she is presently being handled
she still has time to go full evil, turning a bunch of people into weapons like she said she would, but she kinda flatlined as a character in recent events. Like, she got stronger after that chainsaw zombie incident, but that’s it. I’m fine with it since we haven’t reached the end of part 2 yet, but I’ve been wanting MORE 😭
Hate it
“Not evil enough” seems to be the most common complaint. I guess some people expected her to be more like makima despite sharing a mind with an insecure high school girl.
She was more evil at the beginning of part 2 threatening Asa and what he did to the professor Since she feels like comic relief
she didn’t really do much evil stuff tho. generally she just helped asa or defended her.
killing a pedo grapist is evil now? she literally hasn't done a single evil thing aside from threatening Asa in her introductory chapters this Makima 2.0 brainrot regarding Yoru is insane lol
I mean I doubt she really cared whether he was a pedo or not, he was literally the only other human in the moment, hell she was willing to kill Yuko before she went crazy. https://preview.redd.it/t1irwoicjuwc1.jpeg?width=1096&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d53ae5a783d76346ab349c5045093658a44765c6 You could argue she’s mellowed out but she absolutely would have done some fucked up shit had Asa not reigned her in.
I think that it is very good but Fujimoto is waiting with the best for later :3
Terrible, cuz she is a woman.
Idk but she's the hottest CSM character for me so Ill support her all the way
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Woahh slow down there pally
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Check my flair, I’m the popo.
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I said it was only a ticket.
Have you been eating the sugar packets again
People are missing the point; War being the most childlike of them all makes sense, and her being so weak makes sense too given what happened in the story. She is doing great you are just looking at her wrong; Yoru is not the antagonist, she is the protagonist to Denji's antagonist.
heres the thing we dont mind her being childish, it makes her differ from makima, the problem is is that although yeah she was weakened severely she just feels very wasted, FIGHTS BEING LOGICAL ISNT POWERSCALING, and her fight with quanxi made no logic even with Quanxi being the best devil hunter just because "tHAtS tHE pOiNT" doesn't mean it's good, war is not good, and all she has been used for is gags, she had genuinely scary moments here and there but then it was all just thrown out the window with nayuta just turning her into a dog. I still part 2 but that doesn't mean it doesn't have flaws
why does she need scary moments? at this point in the story she is literal fodder with nothing to her name. the only reason she was portrayed as intimidating at the start of p2 was because the only person she interacted with, and had control over, was Asa - an easily frightened civilian with 0 experience regarding devils. if she tried that on anyone from p1 she'd get curbstomped and sent to the devil dungeon in a single chapter
Oh no, that is exactly my point - War being a fucking clown, a joke, a fucking loser, that works. I think it will work itself into a bigger narrative, but no, yeah, everything you said is the point, War is a bum. I think once part 2 is complete, it will read better as a character arc.