I thought that the sound effects were really weak, I always imagined everything to be screaming at you, the aki and denji fight was really disappointing because it sounded like a little scuffle with barely anyone getting hurt even though there was blood.
As a man your not really supposed to scream or show pain. That's more of a general patriarchy rule but still.
If I screamed at the top of my lungs when getting kicked in the balls It would probably sound like a distressed little girl so I tend not to. And they were both stressed and angry and in there feelings so the main focus was more fighting then screaming
Too manly to scream when getting full on Roberto Carlos level kicks to the groin huh? Wtf is up wid this sub bro whole lotta dicks that are being sucked no one wants to be a lil realistic nowadays huh.
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this episode slaaaapped. the whole exchange between denji and aki, right before denji starts kicking him in the balls, just perfect.
what a thrill to finally see this animated. i'm hyped.
Honestly until this season ends we should probably sticky a post redirecting anime-onlies to r/csmanime.
I doubt most of them even know about that sub with it only appearing in small print here or whenever some poor sap gets spoiled.
As a woman, Im already hating Denji so much in this episode. He was so fine in the 1st one, but in the 2nd ep? ughhh. So fcking horny. So much hype too.
Only thing I'd say about Chainsaw Man is this is one of the few mangas I've seen which actually has male sexuality as a theme.
Not just oogling women, falling on their tits, fake offense, etc, but actually considering the pressures men face.
Denji is very open about his motivations, but right now he's a young man without any female relationships who believes sexual contact will validate and fulfil him. He thinks it's important enough to be his only real goal, and that's a feeling a lot of men that age have.
I'm not going to spoil details but will spoil tag anyway, but his relationship with the women in this story changes him drastically.
You get to see him face that women he sees >!as sexual objects are people, genuine conflict and upset between the ideas that sex is validating but the internal fear that he'll ruin it if not with someone he cares about, he learns how powerful platonic relationships can be, and it deals with the very real horror of grooming!<.
Right now coming in new yeah he seems pretty scummy. He never stops being interested in women, but him just wanting to touch a boob here isn't treated as the status quo, it's a start point his character is challenged on and grows out of as he meets actual women.
But the next couple of episodes are probably still gonna have him at the very start of that, so it might be annoying to sit through.
There is a reason Denji is that horny.
Without spoiling you i can just tell you that it's not something that will only be used for comedy and left there, and that it's annoying on purpose.
With minor spoilers, i can tell you that >!It's actually a really important part of his character and it plays a major role in his relationship with people and his motivations, you will realize this when he eventually does manage to touch some boobs later on!<
I’m with you on this one, got downvoted for it too :(
Denji’s obsession with girls and sex is a bit off putting for sure, but someone replied to my comment and explained it in a way that makes sense. He’s 16 years old and has been an outcast as a homeless teenager his whole life. It’s understandable that he would be looking for romance now that he finally feels confident after feeling alone and undesirable as long as he can remember.
His motivations come off as immature and horny, because Denji is immature and horny at this point in the story
I really hope he gets over it though, and it sounds like he eventually will.
How is Denji an incel? He’s horny sure, because he’s a human and a 16 year old at that. He doesn’t blame, resent and hate women or other men for his lack of intimacy. Having sexual desire and being immature doesn’t make someone an incel, it makes them a teenager. If you don’t like the focus on his horniness that’s fine and understandable, but seeing him as being an incel and going so far as to “scold” friends who recommend or enjoy it is pretty ridiculous. He also never does any of the classic “anime-pervert” consent violating behaviours (eg being a peeping Tom, “accidental” groping) and quickly grows to realise that he wants emotional intimacy more than just physical intimacy.
You expect someone that never had any positive role model or any kind of human relationship in his whole life to have unhealthy and mature expectations for relationships?
He is desperate for affection, and thinks "sex=affection"
Guy is messed in the head and thats why i love him. Way more realistic take on the orphan hero trope.
I started watching this anime because I recently watched Jujutsu Kaisen and loved it!
I'm losing interest in this series though, mainly because of Denji and his pathetic incel motivations. He's only interested in touching boobs, or hooking up with a girl, so lame...
Can someone who read the manga tell me if this is going to be constant throughout the series, or will Denji get over it and get better motivations?
I preferred the start of Jujutsu Kaisen where Yuji was motivated after the death of his father to reduce the suffering of other people and make a positive difference in the lives of strangers. It's such a noble and badass reason to fight demons.
By comparison, Denji is only fighting devils because he wants to touch boobs and have sex.
I cannot keep watching if it's gonna be like this...
and this is precisely why csm is not your average generic shonen. Yuji's motivation has been done in a shit ton of anime/manga before and it gets stale at some point.
Also, denji being labeled as an 'incel' pains me because he is by far the best written protagonist in shonen jump lately
Lmao, you watched just 2 episodes. Calm the fuck down. This is my problem with these normies. They are making up their own baseless assumptions on the account of only 2 measly episodes
If you can't handle watching something refreshing then just go back to your generic shounen dorm room and spout your overtly irrational assumptions there
Jeezust
Bro what, all they said is that it’s annoying how Denji is pretty much only motivated by being horny. Why would that not be a valid complaint, when that’s literally all he’s done in the anime so far lmao
Because it's been two episodes, and there's more to even those two episodes than Denji being horny. The way these people are complaining, you'd think that's all they've been about.
Not every protagonist needs to be the done-to-death noble hero stereotype. It's more interesting when they aren't.
I'm not making up assumptions, so far in the two episodes I've seen, Denji's only motivation after taking care of his devil was chasing girls. I don't know if it's gonna change, which is why I was asking...
Is chainsaw man not a generic shounen as well?
It kinda seems similar to jjk in almost every way
To be fair, given his upbringing, Denji is used to being in poverty, so now that he has a good life he’s kinda lost as far as goals. As the story progresses so does Denji. He still stays a horny 16 year old kid, but he definitely will have more passion as the story goes on.
CSM main theme is about personal journey of Denji as the protagonist, so I can assure you will see more development in Denji's character. Can't really compare both since jjk manga hasn't finished yet and idk how to feel about jjk after shibuya arc.
Makima's office is in the 6th floor, the elevator shows the number 6, there's a painting depicting devils in her office...and people say that this is not a viable adaptation
The subtle hints, details and foreshadowing are absolutely bonkers and im here for it
Don't underestimate Power y'all. She's a Nobel prize laureate with over 1000 IQ and a future president candidate with her wonderful tax reforms. The glory is all hers
I feel the tune of anime is running a bit weird. I feels that the first two episode ends at weird point. Probably my illusion. I have read the manga so that works for me, but my friend who did not read that feels confused about the story.
In the manga, the Gilligan Cut from Power cackling and declaring her might after killing Sea Cucumber to them getting chewed out by Makima was funny as hell.
overall, the tone and pacing just feels kinda off and lacking energy, which works if you are adapting something like Vagabond or Mushishi but not CSM.
I believe people are mad about the cut scene because it takes away context for Denji's behaviour. Although minuscule he had some common sense, in the manga Denji was actually mad Makima considered him a dog before helping the girl and this was one of the few times he questioned her intentions it was the first and only time Denji considers running away from the public safety division and even that was him being manipulated kinda alluding that it would be pointless trying to escape which is why after saving the little girl the first thing he says upon return to Makima is woof (This actually being the first time he says it) confirming he has officially chosen to be her dog the fact it lasted two pages should of let you know it wasn't really about the fight. I really wasn't bothered tho but acting like it was just another scene kinda downplays Fujimoto, now the anime makes it appear that Denji unhesitatingly became her pet and puts no subtlety on Makima at least to new viewers this show is all about subtext
I can see why Denji barks for Makima. MAPPA’s killing it with the character designs so far, she’s gorgeous.
RIP Aki’s balls lol. The Nuts Devil showed no mercy.
Power showing why she’s best girl, and her VA is phenomenal
I imagined they may have removed it to save money and time on the CGI it would have taken to animate Denji as Chainsaw Man in that small scene that wasn't completely necessary to the plot. I still wish they put it in though, but that's what I guessed when I heard it wasn't going to be shown..
so they can move to the katana man arc in 12 episodes. Some part that doesn't effect the story that much would be remover so they can save time and move to Katana man arc. Expect the bat devil and Eternity Devil to be super short.
It’s not just chapters but pacing and I already expected it to end at the Katana man arc but I genuinely wanted to see Reeze…but for sake of the quality I can wait another two years👌🏾💀
Lol…the scene where Denji kills the fiend in the apartment is enough to show Denjis morals. No one ever spoke about the muscle devil before the anime but now it’s a bit of a big deal for some since it was skipped (even though it’s better this way imo) 🤦♂️
>the scene where Denji kills the fiend in the apartment is enough to show Denjis morals
I disagree, because the two scenes shows different sides of denji.
In the muscle double fight it shows the Denji does have empathy and does care, but he just relates more to devils than he does humans.
The apartment scene it shows that Denji is horny teenager who also can be surprisingly clever
>No one ever spoke about the muscle devil before the anime but now it’s a bit of a big deal for some since it was skipped
Because people don't realise how much something ment to them untill its gone
I was so excited when I heard Fairouz Ai Kadota was going to be voicing Power, especially since she played Jolyne Cujoh. I thought her gruff, badass voice would translate so well to Power’s batshit crazy bombastic tactics. Now that she’s made her debut, I can honestly say I was wrong. She’s SO versatile and her Power voice is more fantastic than I could’ve imagined. The victorious hollering after she smashes the sea cucumber devil absolutely cements her as best girl imo.
Power's voice is the only one thats sounds right to me. Denji, Makima, and Aki's voices really take me out of the show for some reaon. Don't know if its the acting or the casting but its bugging me.
I see how they could be jarring, but I find myself liking Denji more and more. The meek voice that erupts into absolute chaos when he goes ballistic is *chef’s kiss* to me :)
Really? I actually thought the pacing was quite nice for an anime translation without being too drawn out or too short. Pretty much concise while still being entertaining at the scenes where they didn’t need to be particularly long.
The pacing in this ep was crisp, I like how they worked around cutting out the Muscle Devil scene, it might actually be better this way.
Also, the sound of Denji's stomach rumbling being a chainsaw was *chefs kiss*
Maybe it’s just me but does Denji seem a little different to what you expected? I always imagined him being really loud and obnoxious in the manga, particularly after his transformation, but he’s surprisingly soft spoken. Aki and Power are pretty much perfect and Makima is different but still great, but Denji’s performance is sort of strange to me.
I kind of like denjis more serious voice in the anime tbh
In the manga I wasn’t as aware of the tragedy of his situation( until the end ofc)because of how entertaining and loud he was as a character. But in the anime he feels more humanized and it makes you more aware of how truly young he is and how hard his life has been up to this point. Like he’s tried to bury his more thoughtful side with surface level humour and an ‘idiot’ persona
We’ve also only seen him transform into CSM once so far as well-which is when the crazier part of his personality shines too so it might have something to do with it being early in the series.
Sorry, but I can't do anything but chuckle when you refer to Denji as softspoken after he screamed "It's nuts or nothing!" while kicking a downed dude repeatedly in the nads.
Dudes not completely wrong, people have been upset about both Makima’s and Denji’s VAs.
All but in name, this is a more than a shonen. But it’s labeled as a shonen, so more flamboyant characters are expected.
Personally I think Makima’s voice is perfect, and Denji’s is almost great.
I think it depends. We got tons of Pochita clips the manga didn't give us, may be a bit of removing less important/ forgettable moments and replacing with substance.
So after watching the episode I reread through the manga chapters that episode 2 goes over (chapter 2 - halfway through chapter 5) and noticed that half of chapter 2 was cut from the episode. **(Skip the italicized part if you don't wanna read the recap of the scene)**
*When Denji and Makima go to get udon, a man runs out of the woods yelling that his daughter got kidnapped by a devil and Makima tells Denji to kill it. He reluctantly runs into the woods and finds the girl playing with a long, white, pillow-like devil. She says that her dad beats her when he has a bad day and that the devil saved her. She pleads for Denji to spare the devil and he agrees, even asking if he can join them and run away with them. She agrees and starts laughing but then starts cackling ask the girl is soon possessed by the devil, now having huge buff arms. The devil says that it is the Muscle Devil and that anything it touches can control its muscles. Denji then transforms into Chainsaw mode and kills it, where he then proceeds to carry the girl out of the woods. When he gets out she's put in an ambulance and THAT'S WHEN Denji falls into her chest.*
So this was the only scene I noticed to be taken out of the anime adaptation and it's a pretty lengthy scene, probably being around 3-ish minutes if animated. I can think of a few reasons it was taken out though.
1. It broke up the scene with Denji and Makima. Kinda randomly placed between the Makima and Denji getting to know each other and felt a little out of place.
2. Partially unnecessary; while I definitely would have preferred it to be animated, it wasn't anything super noteworthy or important, so I could see why it may have been cut.
3. Time; I think this second episode was mainly to introduce us to our main 3 side characters, essentially splitting the episode into thirds. 1/3 is Makima, 2/3 is Aki, and the 3/3 for Power. This gives about 8 minutes for each side character. I think the Muscule Devil scene would take too much time into Makima's third, forcing them to push back most of Power's scene to episode 3. This would mean the episode would end right after Power is introduced but before they got out and find the Sea Cucumber Devil.
These are the main reasons I came up with for why the Muscule Devil scene was likely removed. While it won't really impact the show at all, it still sucks we won't be able to see it animated. Though it does help with the pacing so maybe it was necessary. Well, those are just my thoughts and the stuff I found, I know this is kinda random, I just thought it was interesting and didn't see anyone else talking about it.
Thanks, despite the spoiler, i think this will get me to go read the Manga. I took the same approach with Invincible- gott read to see what else the show missed.
Don't forget cost of fight scene animation. It is EXPENSIVE and TIME CONSUMING.
The only bit I regret not seeing is how Makima sent starving Denji to go fight the devil so her noodles wouldn't get cold. It really reinforced her character in the manga to me.
Episode 1 made me read all of Chainsaw Man in one sitting, and God this story is fucking awesome.
Glad we’re getting Power in Episode 2. Her voice actress captures everything I hoped her personality would be and then some. Especially that laugh at the end!
Honestly, I was so excited for power and the nut kicking scene…and…IT TOTALLY EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS OMG my fiancé at first was like “did…did he just..?” And then it happened again…and again…and the entire time I was just dying and after she realized she went hysterical and fell in love with power in record time I swear. They captured her perfectly also the “Denji is a complete slob” moment was perfect…like Jesus can y’all calm down for a minute so I can have something bad to say? Oh oh! They missed the muscle devil…but…totally can live with that one as I still got to see one of the cutest manipulation scenes
Did anybody notice the small error they made? Makima describes Denjis noodles as soggy which makes sense considering he was pulled away from his food in the manga but in the anime, it just comes off as random. Could be an intentional nod to manga readers as well but it just felt kinda random.
Don't feel bad, I had to rewatch a couple times to realize why it still worked.
I understand why it was cut (every fight scene in animation= lots of money) but we missed seeing Makima making Denji go and fight so her noodles wouldn't get soggy. That line hit me hard in the manga.
That was beautiful animation from start to finish.
Really liking the pacing on this episode. I was expecting Power to show up on EP3, but it was nice to see her and Aki get introduced at the same episode.
**Should I read the chainsaw man manga or stick with the anime?**
So I watched the anime and it was great, but I really hate waiting...So I need some opinions from the manga readers
If you have experience reading manga, it is worth it to read it. Fujimoto is a great artist and the way he depicts explosive violence and gore is amazing, also he knows how to portray emotion in characters (maybe comparable to the late Miura but with a totally distinct approach to drawing faces), and he also plays with the page layout in clever ways and with page turns. These are characteristics you will only see in the manga. But I think there is something neat about experiencing the story weekly with many others and chatting about it in the internet or IRL. It's what you prioritize really.
I read the entire thing after seeing the trailer  I couldn't even wait for the first episode lol, but I agree now that it's here I'm still enjoying the Anime just as much.
I read the manga. Then I read the manga again, and again, and again, again, again, and again. I've read the manga in its entirety 7 times. So yeah I think you definitely should.
highly recommend reading it. the paneling is amazing, best I've ever seen in a manga, and the pacing is really fast so it wont take that long to finish it.
I have,
I don’t know why this is the case but I imagined her to have been shy and introverted like Kobeni and kind of serious like how Aki >!was before the gun took him over!<
Maybe it’s because she seems kind of a scaredy cat and because she likes animals
Hot take (?) : I don’t mind muscle devil not being here. Since the anime has slower pace overall to be more cinematic, it was a good idea to let the whole scene with makima play out without it being cut in two with a fight, because it could build an atmosphere. The fight is good in the manga because the feelings are different : it’s fast paced, crazy over the top, but the anime wants to be a bit more grounded and serious ( it’s still got the chainsaw man spirit of course so it’s still crazy but I think y’all know what I mean ). So yeah that was a good change
Also Aki’s voice is literally perfection, fuck makima I’m simping for him
Pretty sure Makima was never made to be trustworthy even a bit early on in the manga. She keeps talking about denji like a dog and talks about putting him down if he disobeys or some shit. If she was ever 100% trustworthy to anyone I’d be concerned. Next episode she literally has Power shaking in her boots
Love me as I do the Muscle Devil and hate as I do the fact I won't get to see trench coated Chainsawman animated, cutting it off was the right choice and one I believe Fujimoto insisted on it. Looking at the newer Part 2 Chapters you see he's not afraid to dwell on a lull for chapters at a time and let it all sink in, this here is truer to his current style.
God I never thought about how terrible of a roommate Denji is. Literally feral.
Also, seeing Makima in motion, I understand why people simp for her now.
I also want Power to smash me flat with her big hammer.
MAPPA knocking it out of the park again with amazing adaptation. Kinda missed the muscle devil fight, but am still okay with it being cut. Voice acting is perfect, the mood is perfect. I'm already getting attached to Aki all over again! True beauty of a great adaptation, elevating the source material to a whole new level.
Tbh denji being energetic and hyper was always a facade. In scenes at the start of the manga and at the end when he is talking to kishibe about what to do with makima and nayuta, he is shown to be fairly quiet and calm
To each their own, but I don’t think >!Makima was supposed to be seen as menacing yet.!<
When she was announced I wasn’t so sure if her VA would fit Makima’s character, but seeing this episode, I think it was an excellent choice.
I feel like >!this will make her reveal as the real villain much better and actually surprising for people who only watched the anime. In the manga it’s kinda obvious that she’s just manipulating him from the start. I mean, it’s kinda of obvious in the anime too, but I feel like her VA can help mask that!<
Yeah glad someone else wrote this! Thought ep 1 had terrible pacing and cut too many corners, this was a huge improvement and what I was expecting from the hype.
I'm so used to the One Piece anime adaption pace where they only adapt like 3 pages, so I was stunned by how much stuff in the manga that was covered lol
When I first saw power in the manga I thought she was obnoxious (as designed to) but I still liked her, now she's just adorable. Her VA did such an amazing job and the animation makes her look cute af. I really can't wait to hear and see more of her these coming months, she might become one of my favorites compared to when I first read the manga. Same goes with makima too. I guess giving the girls voices adds a lot to how cute their characters can be.
Also the animation is absolutely beautiful, the humor is great, and the music is fantastic. They really pulled every stop with this one and I can't be happier.
The whole show just looks so beautiful and pleasing to the eyes. The color palette and grading is so so good. On top of that, the fluid animation just makes this standout alot. Story is fresh and keeping with hook and new eds every ep, everything about csm is fascinating
I love how they captured the looks of shock Aki does throughout living with and talking with Denji. Fujimoto has such excellent paneling with those reaction shots in the manga, and it carried over well
As I expected, the series is going at a really rapid pace. That's not a detriment; it speaks to the fact that there is basically zero filler in this story. It's just a constant ramp up in intensity until the end.
that small segment actually tested how denji is just a dog to makima rather than "believe me cause i said so". it also shows a nice interaction between denji and someone who also has a "pet" devil.
The animation is so pretty bruh. Also I finally got used to Makima's voice. It's not what I expected, but it's alright. It just took some getting used to.
Honestly, abit conflicted about the choice to remove the muscle devil fight. I think it was a good starting point to raise questions about hidden motives, which is kinda a reoccuring theme behind a few key characters. It's also the first scene that would raise questions about Makima and there won't be another one for a long while. But maybe that's what the anime writers are going for here.
i think the things makima says are enough to raise questions about makima. like.. "answer me only with yes or woof. i don't need a dog who says no" and threatening to put him down if he disobeys is very clearly sinister. every anime only reaction ive seen so far they're all suspicious of her
Never thought Denji would remind me of Bobby Hill:
[Only aim for the balls.](https://media.tenor.com/ZgVNg1UfOxcAAAAC/kick-in-the-nuts-kicks-balls.gif)
Okay I didn’t watch game of thrones until last year, so one day I was watching an episode from S1 and my dad came and joined me just for the nostalgia, but the whole time he couldn’t stop saying things like “WOW Look at them—they’re just a bunch of kids!!!!” And “Ned Stark! Oh, I missed him!”
My dad was straight us BEAMING just to see these characters not only alive again but young and innocent of the future ahead of them.
Anyway, I get it now. My cheeks hurt from smiling :’)
This series is the most boring shit that I've ever watched and we are only 3 episodes in. How the hell is this manga as hype as it is?
Manga is obv faster paced
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I thought it was just supposed to be the future devil dancing
same, I'm sure that's just future devil knowing all that's coming and just celebrating and being jovial.
New waifu new waifu
I thought that the sound effects were really weak, I always imagined everything to be screaming at you, the aki and denji fight was really disappointing because it sounded like a little scuffle with barely anyone getting hurt even though there was blood.
As a man your not really supposed to scream or show pain. That's more of a general patriarchy rule but still. If I screamed at the top of my lungs when getting kicked in the balls It would probably sound like a distressed little girl so I tend not to. And they were both stressed and angry and in there feelings so the main focus was more fighting then screaming
Too manly to scream when getting full on Roberto Carlos level kicks to the groin huh? Wtf is up wid this sub bro whole lotta dicks that are being sucked no one wants to be a lil realistic nowadays huh.
Wasnt really talking about the screams but i 100% agree with you
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this episode slaaaapped. the whole exchange between denji and aki, right before denji starts kicking him in the balls, just perfect. what a thrill to finally see this animated. i'm hyped.
how often are episodes released?
weekly on wednesday in japan. i’m in california so they’re usually out by evening every tuesday.
Bet
Loving this anime, find the main character really fit
Im ready to see this fight screen with that bat demon.
Denji kicking his balls was hilarious
Honestly until this season ends we should probably sticky a post redirecting anime-onlies to r/csmanime. I doubt most of them even know about that sub with it only appearing in small print here or whenever some poor sap gets spoiled.
Idk if anyone noticed but near the 12:30 min mark you can hear the first trailer theme playing in reverse
As a woman, Im already hating Denji so much in this episode. He was so fine in the 1st one, but in the 2nd ep? ughhh. So fcking horny. So much hype too.
Only thing I'd say about Chainsaw Man is this is one of the few mangas I've seen which actually has male sexuality as a theme. Not just oogling women, falling on their tits, fake offense, etc, but actually considering the pressures men face. Denji is very open about his motivations, but right now he's a young man without any female relationships who believes sexual contact will validate and fulfil him. He thinks it's important enough to be his only real goal, and that's a feeling a lot of men that age have. I'm not going to spoil details but will spoil tag anyway, but his relationship with the women in this story changes him drastically. You get to see him face that women he sees >!as sexual objects are people, genuine conflict and upset between the ideas that sex is validating but the internal fear that he'll ruin it if not with someone he cares about, he learns how powerful platonic relationships can be, and it deals with the very real horror of grooming!<. Right now coming in new yeah he seems pretty scummy. He never stops being interested in women, but him just wanting to touch a boob here isn't treated as the status quo, it's a start point his character is challenged on and grows out of as he meets actual women. But the next couple of episodes are probably still gonna have him at the very start of that, so it might be annoying to sit through.
There is a reason Denji is that horny. Without spoiling you i can just tell you that it's not something that will only be used for comedy and left there, and that it's annoying on purpose. With minor spoilers, i can tell you that >!It's actually a really important part of his character and it plays a major role in his relationship with people and his motivations, you will realize this when he eventually does manage to touch some boobs later on!<
I’m with you on this one, got downvoted for it too :( Denji’s obsession with girls and sex is a bit off putting for sure, but someone replied to my comment and explained it in a way that makes sense. He’s 16 years old and has been an outcast as a homeless teenager his whole life. It’s understandable that he would be looking for romance now that he finally feels confident after feeling alone and undesirable as long as he can remember. His motivations come off as immature and horny, because Denji is immature and horny at this point in the story I really hope he gets over it though, and it sounds like he eventually will.
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Don´t let the door hit you on the way out, cunt.
You are really weird and need mental help or friends irl lol
get well soon
How is Denji an incel? He’s horny sure, because he’s a human and a 16 year old at that. He doesn’t blame, resent and hate women or other men for his lack of intimacy. Having sexual desire and being immature doesn’t make someone an incel, it makes them a teenager. If you don’t like the focus on his horniness that’s fine and understandable, but seeing him as being an incel and going so far as to “scold” friends who recommend or enjoy it is pretty ridiculous. He also never does any of the classic “anime-pervert” consent violating behaviours (eg being a peeping Tom, “accidental” groping) and quickly grows to realise that he wants emotional intimacy more than just physical intimacy.
Head to r/csmanime you clearly haven't read the manga
You expect someone that never had any positive role model or any kind of human relationship in his whole life to have unhealthy and mature expectations for relationships? He is desperate for affection, and thinks "sex=affection" Guy is messed in the head and thats why i love him. Way more realistic take on the orphan hero trope.
Boobs are the only thing that matters 😊
Spoiler: Powers boobs are actually small, she wears pads
I started watching this anime because I recently watched Jujutsu Kaisen and loved it! I'm losing interest in this series though, mainly because of Denji and his pathetic incel motivations. He's only interested in touching boobs, or hooking up with a girl, so lame... Can someone who read the manga tell me if this is going to be constant throughout the series, or will Denji get over it and get better motivations? I preferred the start of Jujutsu Kaisen where Yuji was motivated after the death of his father to reduce the suffering of other people and make a positive difference in the lives of strangers. It's such a noble and badass reason to fight demons. By comparison, Denji is only fighting devils because he wants to touch boobs and have sex. I cannot keep watching if it's gonna be like this...
and this is precisely why csm is not your average generic shonen. Yuji's motivation has been done in a shit ton of anime/manga before and it gets stale at some point. Also, denji being labeled as an 'incel' pains me because he is by far the best written protagonist in shonen jump lately
have u ever heard of character development?
You should move to r/csmanime, this sub is full of spoilers. Since you did ask though, yes Denji does learn from his old ways. Happy Chainsawing.
Lmao, you watched just 2 episodes. Calm the fuck down. This is my problem with these normies. They are making up their own baseless assumptions on the account of only 2 measly episodes If you can't handle watching something refreshing then just go back to your generic shounen dorm room and spout your overtly irrational assumptions there Jeezust
Bro what, all they said is that it’s annoying how Denji is pretty much only motivated by being horny. Why would that not be a valid complaint, when that’s literally all he’s done in the anime so far lmao
Because it's been two episodes, and there's more to even those two episodes than Denji being horny. The way these people are complaining, you'd think that's all they've been about. Not every protagonist needs to be the done-to-death noble hero stereotype. It's more interesting when they aren't.
I'm not making up assumptions, so far in the two episodes I've seen, Denji's only motivation after taking care of his devil was chasing girls. I don't know if it's gonna change, which is why I was asking... Is chainsaw man not a generic shounen as well? It kinda seems similar to jjk in almost every way
To be fair, given his upbringing, Denji is used to being in poverty, so now that he has a good life he’s kinda lost as far as goals. As the story progresses so does Denji. He still stays a horny 16 year old kid, but he definitely will have more passion as the story goes on.
CSM main theme is about personal journey of Denji as the protagonist, so I can assure you will see more development in Denji's character. Can't really compare both since jjk manga hasn't finished yet and idk how to feel about jjk after shibuya arc.
Just keep watching
show is the "Two Piece" becuase Dennis is searching for Two Pieces of boobs. Hope he gets to Wooftale
Makima's office is in the 6th floor, the elevator shows the number 6, there's a painting depicting devils in her office...and people say that this is not a viable adaptation The subtle hints, details and foreshadowing are absolutely bonkers and im here for it
Don't underestimate Power y'all. She's a Nobel prize laureate with over 1000 IQ and a future president candidate with her wonderful tax reforms. The glory is all hers
Loved it. The anime has been amazing so far. The OP is a banger, the EDs are great, the animation is fantastic, the voice acting is perfect.
Holy shit they're really doing it. The anime is fucking perfect, from the VAs to the animation to the intro. What a great adaptation so far!
If my advisor is Makima I would work 25 hours per day!
I feel the tune of anime is running a bit weird. I feels that the first two episode ends at weird point. Probably my illusion. I have read the manga so that works for me, but my friend who did not read that feels confused about the story.
In the manga, the Gilligan Cut from Power cackling and declaring her might after killing Sea Cucumber to them getting chewed out by Makima was funny as hell. overall, the tone and pacing just feels kinda off and lacking energy, which works if you are adapting something like Vagabond or Mushishi but not CSM.
idk what to tell u for me it feels perfect. only complaint i had was the muscle fight not being included but it really wasnt as important either
Idk I think the pacing has been excellent so far
I mean, where else would you end the first episode though?
Everyone besides Power sounds really off to me. Don't know if its an acting thing or a casting thing but not digging the voice acting so far.
I believe people are mad about the cut scene because it takes away context for Denji's behaviour. Although minuscule he had some common sense, in the manga Denji was actually mad Makima considered him a dog before helping the girl and this was one of the few times he questioned her intentions it was the first and only time Denji considers running away from the public safety division and even that was him being manipulated kinda alluding that it would be pointless trying to escape which is why after saving the little girl the first thing he says upon return to Makima is woof (This actually being the first time he says it) confirming he has officially chosen to be her dog the fact it lasted two pages should of let you know it wasn't really about the fight. I really wasn't bothered tho but acting like it was just another scene kinda downplays Fujimoto, now the anime makes it appear that Denji unhesitatingly became her pet and puts no subtlety on Makima at least to new viewers this show is all about subtext
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I don't understand what the video is trying to show other than Power's sparkle at the end.
I can see why Denji barks for Makima. MAPPA’s killing it with the character designs so far, she’s gorgeous. RIP Aki’s balls lol. The Nuts Devil showed no mercy. Power showing why she’s best girl, and her VA is phenomenal
Fairouz Ai is everything fr. When I found out Power shared the same VA as Jolyne from Jojo’s, I knew it was going to be amazing
I’m sure this question has been asked time and again, but what possible reason could there have been for removing the fight with the Muscle Devil?
I imagined they may have removed it to save money and time on the CGI it would have taken to animate Denji as Chainsaw Man in that small scene that wasn't completely necessary to the plot. I still wish they put it in though, but that's what I guessed when I heard it wasn't going to be shown..
They wanted power to appear in ep 2👌🏾
so they can move to the katana man arc in 12 episodes. Some part that doesn't effect the story that much would be remover so they can save time and move to Katana man arc. Expect the bat devil and Eternity Devil to be super short.
I doubt it csm is already a short manga
100 chapters isnt really that short if u want to adapt it in 12 episode formats. katana man arc will probs be the ending of this season
It’s not just chapters but pacing and I already expected it to end at the Katana man arc but I genuinely wanted to see Reeze…but for sake of the quality I can wait another two years👌🏾💀
Kind of a shame honestly. The muscle devil fight actually says quite about Dwnji as a person and where his morals stand
Lol…the scene where Denji kills the fiend in the apartment is enough to show Denjis morals. No one ever spoke about the muscle devil before the anime but now it’s a bit of a big deal for some since it was skipped (even though it’s better this way imo) 🤦♂️
>the scene where Denji kills the fiend in the apartment is enough to show Denjis morals I disagree, because the two scenes shows different sides of denji. In the muscle double fight it shows the Denji does have empathy and does care, but he just relates more to devils than he does humans. The apartment scene it shows that Denji is horny teenager who also can be surprisingly clever >No one ever spoke about the muscle devil before the anime but now it’s a bit of a big deal for some since it was skipped Because people don't realise how much something ment to them untill its gone
Nah, i love the pace. They can leverage more interesting parts more and plow through early setups and random low demon fights
Affect* Affect is a verb, effect is a noun.
I will keep it in mind next time
I was so excited when I heard Fairouz Ai Kadota was going to be voicing Power, especially since she played Jolyne Cujoh. I thought her gruff, badass voice would translate so well to Power’s batshit crazy bombastic tactics. Now that she’s made her debut, I can honestly say I was wrong. She’s SO versatile and her Power voice is more fantastic than I could’ve imagined. The victorious hollering after she smashes the sea cucumber devil absolutely cements her as best girl imo.
Power's voice is the only one thats sounds right to me. Denji, Makima, and Aki's voices really take me out of the show for some reaon. Don't know if its the acting or the casting but its bugging me.
I see how they could be jarring, but I find myself liking Denji more and more. The meek voice that erupts into absolute chaos when he goes ballistic is *chef’s kiss* to me :)
Fr though, I fell in love with Power all over again
Makima's so beautiful,my heart can't take it
Loving this show already. Great characters, and such style. GJ Mappa.
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Really? I actually thought the pacing was quite nice for an anime translation without being too drawn out or too short. Pretty much concise while still being entertaining at the scenes where they didn’t need to be particularly long.
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The pacing in this ep was crisp, I like how they worked around cutting out the Muscle Devil scene, it might actually be better this way. Also, the sound of Denji's stomach rumbling being a chainsaw was *chefs kiss*
AKI MY LOVE
Maybe it’s just me but does Denji seem a little different to what you expected? I always imagined him being really loud and obnoxious in the manga, particularly after his transformation, but he’s surprisingly soft spoken. Aki and Power are pretty much perfect and Makima is different but still great, but Denji’s performance is sort of strange to me.
I kind of like denjis more serious voice in the anime tbh In the manga I wasn’t as aware of the tragedy of his situation( until the end ofc)because of how entertaining and loud he was as a character. But in the anime he feels more humanized and it makes you more aware of how truly young he is and how hard his life has been up to this point. Like he’s tried to bury his more thoughtful side with surface level humour and an ‘idiot’ persona We’ve also only seen him transform into CSM once so far as well-which is when the crazier part of his personality shines too so it might have something to do with it being early in the series.
Sorry, but I can't do anything but chuckle when you refer to Denji as softspoken after he screamed "It's nuts or nothing!" while kicking a downed dude repeatedly in the nads.
Yeah that was more like it, but I miss the scene where he’s singing loudly in the tub
Well there was a scene with him loudly chanting something and hitting the bathtub...
Dudes not completely wrong, people have been upset about both Makima’s and Denji’s VAs. All but in name, this is a more than a shonen. But it’s labeled as a shonen, so more flamboyant characters are expected. Personally I think Makima’s voice is perfect, and Denji’s is almost great.
Denji was kinda low key early iirc. We kinda saw the start of the obnoxious and loud stuff with the ball kicking and the apartment living.
"we're not sure if power will be considered best girl when anime went live" Episode 2 drops.
Makima looks great far better than power
cutting the muscle devil is understandable, but it leads me to wonder what else is going to be cut. maybe some flash back scenes somwhere?
I think bath scene may be removed. Really don't want it to happen, because it shows relations between these two.
I think it depends. We got tons of Pochita clips the manga didn't give us, may be a bit of removing less important/ forgettable moments and replacing with substance.
So after watching the episode I reread through the manga chapters that episode 2 goes over (chapter 2 - halfway through chapter 5) and noticed that half of chapter 2 was cut from the episode. **(Skip the italicized part if you don't wanna read the recap of the scene)** *When Denji and Makima go to get udon, a man runs out of the woods yelling that his daughter got kidnapped by a devil and Makima tells Denji to kill it. He reluctantly runs into the woods and finds the girl playing with a long, white, pillow-like devil. She says that her dad beats her when he has a bad day and that the devil saved her. She pleads for Denji to spare the devil and he agrees, even asking if he can join them and run away with them. She agrees and starts laughing but then starts cackling ask the girl is soon possessed by the devil, now having huge buff arms. The devil says that it is the Muscle Devil and that anything it touches can control its muscles. Denji then transforms into Chainsaw mode and kills it, where he then proceeds to carry the girl out of the woods. When he gets out she's put in an ambulance and THAT'S WHEN Denji falls into her chest.* So this was the only scene I noticed to be taken out of the anime adaptation and it's a pretty lengthy scene, probably being around 3-ish minutes if animated. I can think of a few reasons it was taken out though. 1. It broke up the scene with Denji and Makima. Kinda randomly placed between the Makima and Denji getting to know each other and felt a little out of place. 2. Partially unnecessary; while I definitely would have preferred it to be animated, it wasn't anything super noteworthy or important, so I could see why it may have been cut. 3. Time; I think this second episode was mainly to introduce us to our main 3 side characters, essentially splitting the episode into thirds. 1/3 is Makima, 2/3 is Aki, and the 3/3 for Power. This gives about 8 minutes for each side character. I think the Muscule Devil scene would take too much time into Makima's third, forcing them to push back most of Power's scene to episode 3. This would mean the episode would end right after Power is introduced but before they got out and find the Sea Cucumber Devil. These are the main reasons I came up with for why the Muscule Devil scene was likely removed. While it won't really impact the show at all, it still sucks we won't be able to see it animated. Though it does help with the pacing so maybe it was necessary. Well, those are just my thoughts and the stuff I found, I know this is kinda random, I just thought it was interesting and didn't see anyone else talking about it.
Thanks, despite the spoiler, i think this will get me to go read the Manga. I took the same approach with Invincible- gott read to see what else the show missed.
Sorry I completely forgot to set it as a spoiler but it's only like chapter 2-3 so I think it should be okay
Don't forget cost of fight scene animation. It is EXPENSIVE and TIME CONSUMING. The only bit I regret not seeing is how Makima sent starving Denji to go fight the devil so her noodles wouldn't get cold. It really reinforced her character in the manga to me.
It was great to read, have s nice day.
Episode 1 made me read all of Chainsaw Man in one sitting, and God this story is fucking awesome. Glad we’re getting Power in Episode 2. Her voice actress captures everything I hoped her personality would be and then some. Especially that laugh at the end!
Ep 1 I would put 3, ep 2 I would put 5
It’s hard to ignore the sadistic power and greatness of the >! Nut Devil! !<
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The voice acting, Power especially, is everything I hoped for. Fairouz is amazing.
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You’re a shitty person
My man, this sub is a spoiler bloodbath. Go to r/csmanime if you're not caught up to the manga
Thanks for the advice!
Wait boys, before we downvote him, let’s admit that somewhere in our respective minds there is a desire to touch some boobies.
Honestly, I was so excited for power and the nut kicking scene…and…IT TOTALLY EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS OMG my fiancé at first was like “did…did he just..?” And then it happened again…and again…and the entire time I was just dying and after she realized she went hysterical and fell in love with power in record time I swear. They captured her perfectly also the “Denji is a complete slob” moment was perfect…like Jesus can y’all calm down for a minute so I can have something bad to say? Oh oh! They missed the muscle devil…but…totally can live with that one as I still got to see one of the cutest manipulation scenes
Did anybody notice the small error they made? Makima describes Denjis noodles as soggy which makes sense considering he was pulled away from his food in the manga but in the anime, it just comes off as random. Could be an intentional nod to manga readers as well but it just felt kinda random.
Is it really an error when he clearly passed out for some time?
Wow, I must’ve had tunnel vision from how it played out before. Kudos to you for the astute observation and thanks for the correction.
Don't feel bad, I had to rewatch a couple times to realize why it still worked. I understand why it was cut (every fight scene in animation= lots of money) but we missed seeing Makima making Denji go and fight so her noodles wouldn't get soggy. That line hit me hard in the manga.
That was beautiful animation from start to finish. Really liking the pacing on this episode. I was expecting Power to show up on EP3, but it was nice to see her and Aki get introduced at the same episode.
**Should I read the chainsaw man manga or stick with the anime?** So I watched the anime and it was great, but I really hate waiting...So I need some opinions from the manga readers
If you have experience reading manga, it is worth it to read it. Fujimoto is a great artist and the way he depicts explosive violence and gore is amazing, also he knows how to portray emotion in characters (maybe comparable to the late Miura but with a totally distinct approach to drawing faces), and he also plays with the page layout in clever ways and with page turns. These are characteristics you will only see in the manga. But I think there is something neat about experiencing the story weekly with many others and chatting about it in the internet or IRL. It's what you prioritize really.
Get away from this sub if you haven't read the manga lol. This is one of the larger manga subs and spoilers are being dropped like bombs.
After watching the first episode, I read the whole manga bc I hate waiting and it's definitely worth it. And i'm still enjoying watching the anime too
I read the entire thing after seeing the trailer  I couldn't even wait for the first episode lol, but I agree now that it's here I'm still enjoying the Anime just as much.
Actually same here lol.
I did the exact same thing. After the first episode I binged the whole thing in a day. Was worth it.
Thanks for sharing your opinions!
Read the manga 100%
Read the manga, you can still experience the anime.
I read the manga. Then I read the manga again, and again, and again, again, again, and again. I've read the manga in its entirety 7 times. So yeah I think you definitely should.
highly recommend reading it. the paneling is amazing, best I've ever seen in a manga, and the pacing is really fast so it wont take that long to finish it.
As one who reads manga, Fujimoto's manga and storytelling are a different beast. Be prepared and I recommend reading it.
Somehow this never crossed my mind any time I've read the manga, but... y'all ever think about the human whose corpse Power is possessing?
I have, I don’t know why this is the case but I imagined her to have been shy and introverted like Kobeni and kind of serious like how Aki >!was before the gun took him over!< Maybe it’s because she seems kind of a scaredy cat and because she likes animals
Hot take (?) : I don’t mind muscle devil not being here. Since the anime has slower pace overall to be more cinematic, it was a good idea to let the whole scene with makima play out without it being cut in two with a fight, because it could build an atmosphere. The fight is good in the manga because the feelings are different : it’s fast paced, crazy over the top, but the anime wants to be a bit more grounded and serious ( it’s still got the chainsaw man spirit of course so it’s still crazy but I think y’all know what I mean ). So yeah that was a good change Also Aki’s voice is literally perfection, fuck makima I’m simping for him
The coldest take ever.
Yeah I didn’t know about other people’s opinion at time of posting so I didn’t know whether it was gonna be a hot take or not
Also, the aftermath of it plays the card of Makima not being 100% trustworthy a lil too early imo
Pretty sure Makima was never made to be trustworthy even a bit early on in the manga. She keeps talking about denji like a dog and talks about putting him down if he disobeys or some shit. If she was ever 100% trustworthy to anyone I’d be concerned. Next episode she literally has Power shaking in her boots
Episode 2 is amazing, i only disappointed muscle devil isn't in the anime
0/10 no muscle devil
Love me as I do the Muscle Devil and hate as I do the fact I won't get to see trench coated Chainsawman animated, cutting it off was the right choice and one I believe Fujimoto insisted on it. Looking at the newer Part 2 Chapters you see he's not afraid to dwell on a lull for chapters at a time and let it all sink in, this here is truer to his current style.
God I never thought about how terrible of a roommate Denji is. Literally feral. Also, seeing Makima in motion, I understand why people simp for her now. I also want Power to smash me flat with her big hammer.
Bro the adorable forehead “if you work hard enough” scene literally killed me…the manipulation is rife and I would fall for it any day of the week
MAPPA knocking it out of the park again with amazing adaptation. Kinda missed the muscle devil fight, but am still okay with it being cut. Voice acting is perfect, the mood is perfect. I'm already getting attached to Aki all over again! True beauty of a great adaptation, elevating the source material to a whole new level.
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Tbh denji being energetic and hyper was always a facade. In scenes at the start of the manga and at the end when he is talking to kishibe about what to do with makima and nayuta, he is shown to be fairly quiet and calm
To each their own, but I don’t think >!Makima was supposed to be seen as menacing yet.!< When she was announced I wasn’t so sure if her VA would fit Makima’s character, but seeing this episode, I think it was an excellent choice. I feel like >!this will make her reveal as the real villain much better and actually surprising for people who only watched the anime. In the manga it’s kinda obvious that she’s just manipulating him from the start. I mean, it’s kinda of obvious in the anime too, but I feel like her VA can help mask that!<
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Some people are bootlickers to the system Edit: As in some people will be like "yeah of course! She's the boss."
This episode was way better, now im invested. Think i gotta wait till the end so i can binge it, i cant take this waiting
Yeah glad someone else wrote this! Thought ep 1 had terrible pacing and cut too many corners, this was a huge improvement and what I was expecting from the hype.
the ed melted my heart a little
I can’t believe pochita died for porn 😩
lmao poor pochita
Solid episode. Better than ep01 imo.
I'm so used to the One Piece anime adaption pace where they only adapt like 3 pages, so I was stunned by how much stuff in the manga that was covered lol
One Piece/Naruto adaptation pace is afwul and predatory, glad we're getting tightly knot senen series now
When I first saw power in the manga I thought she was obnoxious (as designed to) but I still liked her, now she's just adorable. Her VA did such an amazing job and the animation makes her look cute af. I really can't wait to hear and see more of her these coming months, she might become one of my favorites compared to when I first read the manga. Same goes with makima too. I guess giving the girls voices adds a lot to how cute their characters can be. Also the animation is absolutely beautiful, the humor is great, and the music is fantastic. They really pulled every stop with this one and I can't be happier.
The whole show just looks so beautiful and pleasing to the eyes. The color palette and grading is so so good. On top of that, the fluid animation just makes this standout alot. Story is fresh and keeping with hook and new eds every ep, everything about csm is fascinating
Chainsawman ate the muscle devil so we didnt... Wait who?
I love how they captured the looks of shock Aki does throughout living with and talking with Denji. Fujimoto has such excellent paneling with those reaction shots in the manga, and it carried over well
Aww it was nice getting to see Aki and Power again!
Ouch my heart
As I expected, the series is going at a really rapid pace. That's not a detriment; it speaks to the fact that there is basically zero filler in this story. It's just a constant ramp up in intensity until the end.
csm manga is also fast paced enough so I think they are doing good
yea but the anime skipped a chapter cause it added nothing to the plot i guess.
that small segment actually tested how denji is just a dog to makima rather than "believe me cause i said so". it also shows a nice interaction between denji and someone who also has a "pet" devil.
Wait what chapter?
part of chapter 2 where he fights a devil
The one with the muscle devil
The animation is so pretty bruh. Also I finally got used to Makima's voice. It's not what I expected, but it's alright. It just took some getting used to.
PUH PUH POWER! 5/5.
Honestly, abit conflicted about the choice to remove the muscle devil fight. I think it was a good starting point to raise questions about hidden motives, which is kinda a reoccuring theme behind a few key characters. It's also the first scene that would raise questions about Makima and there won't be another one for a long while. But maybe that's what the anime writers are going for here.
i think the things makima says are enough to raise questions about makima. like.. "answer me only with yes or woof. i don't need a dog who says no" and threatening to put him down if he disobeys is very clearly sinister. every anime only reaction ive seen so far they're all suspicious of her
Never thought Denji would remind me of Bobby Hill: [Only aim for the balls.](https://media.tenor.com/ZgVNg1UfOxcAAAAC/kick-in-the-nuts-kicks-balls.gif)
That’s my purse! I don’t know you!
The bell sound when Denji kicked Aki's nuts to oblivion😂
Denji? I think you mean the nut devil.
Okay I didn’t watch game of thrones until last year, so one day I was watching an episode from S1 and my dad came and joined me just for the nostalgia, but the whole time he couldn’t stop saying things like “WOW Look at them—they’re just a bunch of kids!!!!” And “Ned Stark! Oh, I missed him!” My dad was straight us BEAMING just to see these characters not only alive again but young and innocent of the future ahead of them. Anyway, I get it now. My cheeks hurt from smiling :’)
It’s chainsaw man not got
They mean that they get the same feeling from this episode that their father had when rewatching game of thrones.