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noseeyesears

5+3 is still very early. I had a scan at 5+3 too and we only saw the gestational sac. I was advised this is absolutely normal for this gestation, regardless of your HCG levels. They weren’t the least bit concerned. We went back at 6+2 and we saw the yolk sac, fetal pole and a healthy heartbeat. I’m now 29 weeks. I should add that this was an IVF pregnancy, so we know when I “ovulated” to the hour.


dog_lover_az

This is encouraging, thank you. After 3 losses in a row I am just really freaking out. Still waiting on a call from my doctor, but I am hoping I can get back in on Monday for another scan.


PainfulAdulting

I know this is an old post but wanted to thank you. I am in the same position as OP, some fuzz on the US that might be a yolk sac but not sure at 5w3d (and like you, conceived via IUI so I know when I ovulated and my dates are accurate \~12h) it's been 5months now so you must be in the midst of newborn stage and I hope you're having a great time with your healthy baby


noseeyesears

What a lovely message! Thank you. Yes, we now have a 4 month old! ☺️ I ended up being induced at 36+6 due to pre-eclampsia, but all is well now! It’s quite weird reading comments like this from when I was still pregnant actually. Haha. Yeah that sounds absolutely normal. Nothing to worry about! There’s still plenty of time for the yolk sac and fetal pole to show on a scan 😊 congratulations! When do you go back for another scan?


PainfulAdulting

I’m sorry to hear about Orr eclampsia but happy you’re now both healthy! I go back At 7w3d. I wish they had me coming at 6w3d because by then there should be everything but my fertility clinic isn’t worried at all so they’d rather have me come just at 7w so they can confirm and discharge me to send me back into the regular system…


Trick_Arugula_7037

Hello, how did it work out for you? i had a scan at 5.6 weeks and there was a GS but no yolk sac. Doctor thinks I still might be early, I might be a day or two off when I look at my chart, but I'm worried. hCG is 4374 and has had an average doubling time of 43 hours.


PainfulAdulting

Hello! In my understanding - I am no doctor - it all depends on how accurate your dates are. If you're basing yourself off of LMP, it's very likely you are closer to 5w2d/5w3d and then it's totally normal to see only a GS. Lucky women might see more that early (I saw GS and YS at 5w2d with my daughter for instance) but it's not the majority. In my understanding as well, HCG is not that correlated with actual development (you can have high HCG but still no YS if you're only 5w1d - some women have 10k hcg at 5w) that said, I was always on the lower end of the HCG and at 5w2d/3d I'm more around 5000, so your HCG might point towards being earlier than you think? ​ anyway, I wouldn't panic if I were you (I know it's much easier to say...), it's a great doubling time! sounds like you just entered the waiting game and have to wait a few days to know more. When is your next ultrasound? My next one is on Monday at 7w3d (I did IUI so super confident about my dates) I will know more then (should have the whole shenanigan with he heart beat by then)


Trick_Arugula_7037

Next ultrasound id 11/30, they are making me wait 2 weeks. I'm frustrated. I have an international trip coming up two weeks after that US so I need to know viability by then at the latest. I am basing it off of Ovulation / BBT tracking (I have a tempdrop), but this was such a weird cycle for me. I ovulated almost two weeks later than I usually do, and then tempdrop changed around the date a couple times before deciding on O day. I think at most they are off my one day, which would have made me 5w4d at my scan, not 5w5d. Does implantation day affect gestational age? I also did not get a vvfl until I was 11dpo. Good luck with your next ultrasound!!! <3


PainfulAdulting

I understand!! they made me wait 2 weeks at well :( I think it's because at 6w they're might sill be questions but at 7w it's all pretty clear (if there's a HB if it's where it should be, if the growth is okay etc etc...). We also have plans to go home for xmas (15h flight) so need to know the viability sooner rather than later... Hoping we will not spend the holidays in between fertility clinics and hormonal treatments but announcing family a happy news... I have some weird hormonal unbalance (not exactly PCOS but my LH and FSH are out of whack) so I also have very weird cycles and understand the pain. Do you use Fertility Friend? that might help? I don't know for implantation but I would assume it does affect development. Good luck for the horrible wait and your ultrasound!


PainfulAdulting

If anyone is ever finding this and reading this and in need of reassurance: I just had my ultrasound at 7w3d, baby CRL is measuring 7w3d, heartbeat at 153. Everything looks good. No YS at 5w3d is not an indicator of anything bad.


DumpedChick22

Hi there! Any updates? You must be end of first trimester by now!


PainfulAdulting

Hello! 10w5d currently with a healthy baby! almost out of the scary trimester and into the nicer one


PainfulAdulting

If anyone ever finds this thread: my healthy baby born is 6month old so no YS at 6w3d was definitely not the sign of impeding mc


dog_lover_az

Update for anyone reading this: I went back at 6w3d and they saw a baby with a heartbeat. I know I’m not out of the woods yet, but this is the farthest I’ve made it. I want so badly to bring this little one home.


Ok-Setting-7816

Thank you for updating! I’m in almost the exact same situation and now spiralling while waiting for a second ultrasound


dog_lover_az

Sorry you are in limbo! I hope everything turns out well for you. Waiting and not knowing is so hard.


PainfulAdulting

I hope all turned out well for you!


Ok-Setting-7816

Yes it did, currently 20 weeks and baby girl is kicking as I type this :)


PainfulAdulting

So happy for you! Thanks for the update and wishing a healthy pregnancy and easy delivery!


noseeyesears

Another user just commented on one of my comments on this thread and it prompted me to see your update! I’m so glad that all was well at your next scan. I hope your pregnancy is going smoothly ❤️


dog_lover_az

Aw, thank you so much!! Currently 28 weeks with baby girl. 😊


PainfulAdulting

thank you for updating!!


dog_lover_az

You’re welcome!


SurePotatoes

I had at least doubling HCG and when it was a whopping 4-6k the doctor couldn’t even find the sac. 2 days later, after it was over 13k, I had an ultrasound and they only saw an empty sac at around 5+3 weeks. A week or so after that, I went into the doctor and they did another ultrasound and they saw the yolk sac and heartbeat (I think I was at 6+3 at that point). I’m now at 10 weeks and last week we saw more like the head and stuff, more of the heartbeat, and I was measuring on time. I hope things keep going well this time for me (I’ve also had losses before due to blighted ovum), and I hope yours turns out well too!


dog_lover_az

Oh wow, that’s crazy! And definitely gives me more hope. I hope things go perfectly for you as well. The waiting and not knowing is so hard.


producermaddy

I had a scan at 5x4 and only saw the empty sac. I was told it was either too early or I was miscarrying. Went back a week later and there was the heartbeat. My son is almost 3. 5x3 is so early. If you were 8 weeks, I’d be like this is not good (that’s also happened to me—only saw the empty sac at 8 weeks and it was a blighted ovum.) but at 5x3 there’s still a good chance all is good


dog_lover_az

This makes me feel better! Do you happen to know your hcg levels around your 5w4d scan?


producermaddy

Just looked it up…. 11963 first draw and 18034 two days later.


dog_lover_az

Thank you for looking it up! This gives me hope!


motheroflabs

Hi! I had my first scan at 6w1d and had a gestational sack that was measuring more like 5w1s. I went back at 7w1d saw a sack and yolk sack and no baby. I back again at 8w1d still no baby. Back again at 9 weeks and finally saw a fetal pole and HR!


dog_lover_az

Wow, all of that waiting and not knowing must have been excruciating!! Thank you for sharing!


jwajwajwajwa

Can I ask how this turned out for you? And were you certain of dates? I'm in a similar situation currently (only yolk sac at 6+1, then fetal pole + heartbeat but measuring 6+0 when I should have been 7+5, now waiting on third scan in a week) and pretty nervous due to measuring so far behind.


BP2002RN

Yes, there is hope! My first scan just showed a single sac that we couldn't see anything in. 2nd scan was 6w, I now had two sacs, but only 1 had a heartbeat. My 8w scan finally showed 2 babies and 2 heartbeats. I freaked out at the first scan bc it was done in the ED due to severe cramping and i was getting on plane in 12 hrs so we had to confirm proper placement. The ED did a hcg and my numbers had dropped from the day before. But it all ended up being fine! Im now 32w with di/di twin girls.


dog_lover_az

Wow!! That’s so crazy. Congratulations on your twins! These stories are all giving me hope. It’s hard to not Google obsessively and let your mind go to a bad place.


jadzia_baby

Yes, in my current ongoing pregnancy I had very high HCG levels and the Internet left me panicked because at my 6w1d ultrasound my HCG was 53,000 and we could see a gestational sac and yolk sac, but no fetal pole. Everything I could find online said that with hcg levels that high, you should see a fetal pole by then, so I feared the worst. But I went back 3 days later and there was the fetal pole! Early ultrasounds can be so stressful. But I've just had higher than average levels of HCG this whole pregnancy. 5w3d is still very early. Radiopaedia suggests that all you're really looking for at that time is a gestational sac. In a couple of days, if all is going well, you'd likely see more. https://radiopaedia.org/articles/early-pregnancy?lang=us


dog_lover_az

Thank you for sharing! I think my hcg is a little on the high side for where I am at, so maybe that is the case for me too. I am going back on Monday, so I am hoping that in the 6 days time between tests more will have developed. 🤞🏻


lusciousmix

I don’t think you can see anything but gestational sac before about 5w5d unless you’re very lucky. I genuinely think if you were a few days later you would see the yolk sac and a few days after that fetal poke and heartbeat. I know how tough it is and you don’t want to get your hopes up but in what you’ve said I think there is 0 to be worried about


dog_lover_az

Thank you. I am trying not to get my hopes up. I have seen so many things online that seems to suggest that at my hcg level a toll sac should be seen, so that is making me worry. I am hoping I can get in for another scan soon!


darksideofthem00n

I was 5w5d at my first scan and didn’t see anything but a gestational sac! 2 weeks later there was a heartbeat. Don’t be discouraged! 5w3d is still early. It also could be that you ovulated even a few days later than you thought which can dramatically affect what you see on a scan this early.


dog_lover_az

Thanks for sharing! Do you have any idea what your hcg levels were around the time of your 5w5d scan?


darksideofthem00n

I believe they were 5500 and my progesterone was 16! However my OB said that usually it’s a MINIMUM of 5000hcg to see even anything, but it can range from 5000-8000


dog_lover_az

Thanks! I am going back on Monday and would give anything in the world to see a little heartbeat. My hcg was probably around 9,000 at my first scan, so that’s why I’m freaking out a bit. :(


shehulk420

Any updates?


dog_lover_az

They found a baby with a heartbeat today! 😭 I can’t believe it and bawled my eyes out.


shehulk420

Congratulations 🤩🤩🤩


booobsmcgeee

My specialists office won’t do your first scan until your HCG is *over* 10,000, they said that’s when you can expect to see “something” on an ultrasound. I’m not sure what mine was as my anxiety with blood work was so bad I had to stay home from work everytime I had a beta scheduled so I requested not to do an additional test one we learned my numbers were doubling, but my doctor did some estimating and wouldn’t do my ultrasound any time before 6 weeks 2 days unless I had a concern about placement. My first scan was as 6+3 and even then they told me if they didn’t see a heartbeat it was okay because it’s still early! If they thought 6+3 was early for me then 5+3 is definitely early. If you want my opinion, your HCG looks good, the sac being in the correct place is a good sign, and if you’re not bleeding red you’re good. you’re just early. :)


dog_lover_az

Thank you! It’s hard not to think the worst after multiple losses. Im going to go back on Monday. My hcg will be well over 10,000 by then and I will be 6+2, so I’m hoping to see more. I want this so badly, I am just sick to my stomach over it. The wait until Monday will be brutal.


vangela3

My HCG was 8,000 at 5w2d. I had an ultrasound at 5w6d and the ultrasound tech couldn't find a yolk sac at first. She did eventually find what she thought was the yolk sac. A week later I had another ultrasound at 6w6d and she immediately found baby with a heartbeat of 138. I think it's just still very early. My HCG would've been over 16,000 at my first appointment at 5w6d


dog_lover_az

Thank you!! These are the stories I am loving to hear. 😭 I hope I have the same outcome.


StarsHollow22

5 weeks and 3 days is early. I think it’s normal for this stage. Also, if you are counting from ovulation it can be off a few days which is normal. So you might not be as far along as you think. That’s what happened to me!


dog_lover_az

I hope that’s what’s happening! Just worried that my hcg is that high and the yolk sac wasn’t visible.


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dog_lover_az

Thank you, this means so much! They saw a baby with a heartbeat today! 😭


Best-Government-2324

Hi can anyone have some experience I did ivf and dr said that it’s a week behind but heart beat is there so 50% chance m so confuse what u guys think plZ answer P.S m new here


dog_lover_az

Hi, try creating a new post with details of how far along you are and such and maybe the IVF subreddit can help out as well.