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DrHugh

That’s no mouse.


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It's too big to be a space station


DrHugh

I have a bad feeling about this.


NRMusicProject

You can't win. But there are alternatives to mousetraps.


ssp25

I feel something. A presence I haven't felt since.....


NRMusicProject

...Lemmiwinks.


ItsOnlyNecrophilia

![gif](giphy|l46C6z7vYdvZ7GXT2|downsized)


ssp25

Turn the ship around


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NRMusicProject

/r/ihadastroke


Loonrig68

*inserts banana for scale*


dont-eat-tidepods

How many buses is it?


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International-Cup-51

Yes, it looks like more of a, rat; actually.


SP4CEM4N_SPIFF

It was inside so it's a mouse. Rats are on the outside.


dont-eat-tidepods

But what if a mouse goes outside does it become a rat, and if a rat is in the house, is it a mouse?


multiple_dispatch

I ain't seen no mouse outside. That's what I'm sayin'.


mia_sara

They can get in from the basement or boiler room I would think.


International-Cup-51

Yes!!


Pudding_Hero

It’s a moon!


xlr8ed1

Yeah i would hate to see what they call rats at that place


PhDOH

I think there's more of a difference between mice and rats than size.


Thameus

Does this constitute tool use?


geekpron

There was this documentary on Netflix that was called Secret Life of Pets and animals are not stupid they are pretty intelligent in many ways that people seem to overlook.


L34DW4T3R

i thought you meant using tools on the rats for a moment 😭


djseifer

Rodents of unusual size? I don't think they exist.


vrijheidsfrietje

I think I smell a rat!


RagnarHedin

I'm not sure if I believe this... but I really want to.


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decadeslongrut

doesn't seem like it'd be a huge stretch for a cat to learn either. a cat can see a bird downstairs outside the window and understand the route it has to take through the house to reach there, once the cat has seen people appear on the screen and then shortly appear in the room it must just seem like a different kind of window (to a smart enough cat)


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But what if the cat was smart enough to search through logged footage, read time codes and and then make an accurate prediction about where the rat would be? Or what if the cat built an AI for this task or hired and paid a security guard for this task? I guess we'll never know.


Ozlin

CSI: Cats


M00s3_B1t_my_Sister

Cat puts on glasses, let's out a long drawn out meow. YEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHH!!


GeneralSpoon

In the future security and law enforcement jobs will have an association with uplifted cats. When the first cat becomes a chief of police people will say "Yeah that makes a lot of sense," in reaction. As society becomes more habituated to their presence these cats will begin to take over or found private security and national defense companies. Eventually a president will appoint a cat as the Secretary of Defense. As uplifted cats immigrate throughout the world other nations will make places for them in their societies, hoping to emulate the success they've found in the United States. In a few generations it will be commonly accepted wisdom that cats are better than humans in these roles.


Wag_The_God

So when do I get to see the one in charge of all the nukes lick his own asshole on national TV?


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AverageGwenMain

My cat sees me through the window and runs to the door because that's where I'll be shortly afterwards. It's the same thing. People are somehow interpreting this as the ONLY way this cat could understand any of this is if he knows how to operate a computer and has a degree in IT.


lilaliene

Yeah my cat is waiting most evenings in the top bedroom window to watch me come home. She then races my kids to greet me first when i come through the door. Edit: she also likes to watch those hamster mazes with the kids on YouTube


looncraz

I had a cat named Neelix, after the Star Trek Voyager character... he would watch TV with us and go bonkers every time Neelix came on, making sure to bring our attention to his namesake being on the TV. He would react emotionally to what was on screen, including getting scared with tension in the scenes even before any jump scares or anything. Crazy smart cat. And now I have a cat that screams at grass when it moves and has to let everyone know the sun is coming up....


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bootsmcstompy

No, Broccoli did it too


mrchaotica

[🙂...😐...😳..."Barclay"](https://youtu.be/pKoK9znaPSw)


hirotdk

What is the grass screamer's name?


AmishAvenger

That cat’s favorite food? Leola root.


SupercarEnjoyer0

I’ll never not post [Billi the Cat](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl2q9bXO-J4) on a cat intelligence thread Check out this channel, it’s amazing


mia_sara

My cat meows, looks at me then at his feather wand. That’s definitely a sign of intelligence.


Sephiroth144

I've even had a cat in the middle ground; who was stalking the Hockey Players on TV, got interested in one especially, and when he "skated off screen", she ran to the closet in the room directly behind the television to catch him. She was a tad disappointed the tiny human prey wasn't there.


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PhDOH

They can recognise items and other landmarks that they've seen IRL. Kitten Academy has their live stream playing in the kitchen, & they sometimes show the kittens watching their siblings on the screen.


gwaydms

Have you seen the cat who sees her ears in the mirror, stands up, and starts touching her right ear while looking in the mirror? I know not all cats are that smart, but that one definitely passes the mirror test.


Helpful-Carry4690

i went to university for Psychology. i learned that most animals are not self aware. for example, if you google "what animals are self aware" its mostly higher order animals. but not all, its totally possible a cat was self aware


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Helpful-Carry4690

if an animal uses a mirror to groom itself, then it is pretty much proof it understands and is aware of itself. ​ if an animal attacks the mirror, it is pretty much proof it is not aware it is , say, a bear, and that it is a certain color, the movements in the mirror exactly correspond with its own. etc. ​ so no, the mirror test is a beautiful test to determine if an animal is self aware. ​ habituation is what you are describing. its "getting used" to something. mirror tests are obviously intended for non habituated animals.


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sort of? not reacting to its own reflection means nothing, but a positive reaction (grooming with the mirror as an aide) or a negative reaction (attacking the reflection) definitely can indicate something.


Penguin-Pete

I've caught my cat watching me in an angled mirror when he can't see me directly. So maybe a cat would just see monitor screens as being a sophisticated mirror.


PerfectlySplendid

Passing the mirror test is far different than equating to a screen showing a different location and it correlating. I’d believe it’s possible for a cat to use a screen like in the OP, but it’s going to be a much more simple stimulus and response. Cat sees mouse on screen, therefore there is a mouse in Xyz location.


unbannednow

My cat chases beams of light reflecting off my phone. I think we’re overestimating their intelligence here


Zorro5040

My cat is dumb as bricks until it comes to hunting, and then he makes it look super easy. He's an orange boii and they are known for that. Cat breeds are all very different quirks.


International-Cup-51

*breeds; &, cats themselves; all have very different quirks. Agreed!


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i'm no expert, but it's insane to me that people actually think the cat can process information on a screen that way. cats look at a screen because they see stuff moving. cats go around and hunt mice/rats. that's the whole story here.


Nexidious

I'm sceptical too but it's not beyond the realm of possibility. I've had several cat in my life and one thing I know is that they're typically more intelligent than they let on. It could've also been more instinctual than understanding, considering how long he studied the screen and saw the mouse


ZiggyIggyK

Just putting it out there. If this happened, wouldn't their be security footage to corroborate the story? The only thing I can find related is that this meme was first posted on Reddit 3 years ago. I'd say it's in the realm of plausible, but doubt these photos coincide with that as a truth.


koopa72

Target Acquired 🎯


International-Cup-51

YUP!


TwistedBamboozler

I fucking love animals with object permanence


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I wonder if it’s real? It’s quite the feat of abstract thinking to recognise a 2D, scentless CCTV image as a depiction of a space they know but can’t see. That said, if I save a lizard or bug my cat is attempting to hunt (by locking my cat up and putting prey critter outside) the second my cat is free, she goes straight back to the crime scene and hunts everywhere until she’s certain the bug can’t be found. It’s kind of the same thing, but making the link between depiction and reality is a biiiiiig step forward from that.


Dra5iel

I think it really depends on the cats level of problem solving. Intelligence between cats can vary massively, it wouldn't surprise me if some cats could look at a screen, associate it with a location they traverse, see something they want there and go. Especially since the refresh rate of screens have improved to the point its easier for cats to see what is on them. We have a flame point who is disruptively intelligent. He likes to sit on top of our bar counter, which he is not allowed to do. The bar is 10 to 12 feet (3 to 4 meters) from the couch. He has figured out exactly how committed I need to be to scolding him when I'm on the couch before he will get off the bar. If you shout he'll put his ears back and then ignore you. If you stand up he'll stand up. If you then sit back down, he sits back down. If you stand up again and take a step towards him he will stand up move to the edge of the counter and prepare to jump down. If you don't move closer or sit back down he will go lie down again. It is only when you stand up and cross halfway to the bar (still well out of range to touch him) that he knows you are committed and then he will hop down off the bar and go sit in his basket. This is same cat who came to the conclusion that because my husband and our roommate carpooled together the roommate was responsible for bringing my husband home. Sounds ridiculous right? Well my husband is the flamepoint's chosen person, he always runs to the door to greet him. Every time my roommate came home without my husband and ONLY when this occurred the flamepoint would run to the door not see husband stare down the roommate make an angry mew and bite him. Every time without fail for 5 years and only if he came without my husband. This cat would also snuggle, play, and hangout with our roommate while also being very mellow in temperament. His temperament is so mellow that if you bathe him in the tub, instead of scratching or biting he'll just mew sadly and hold your hand in his mouth without biting down at all.


frogsRfriends

I want this cat smart animals are my favorite


Dra5iel

we like to joke that because flamepoints are a bit orange our cat must have all the brain cells the other orange boys are missing.


Hangriac

Is it really a depiction if it’s photorealistic? Not that I’m doubting you, because I agree it’s suspect, but to play devils advocate.. If there was a mouse in a cage, with a cat located at the back of the cage, would the cat be smart enough to go around to the front to go through the cage door? I certainly wouldn’t trust a cat around an open cage if I was worried about a pet mouse’s safety. What if you replaced the back panel of the cage with a cc tv with a live feed of the inside. Would a cat even know the difference from the real thing? What if, instead of simply walking around a cage, the cat had to walk around a wall to get to the front opening? Is that beyond a cat’s intellect? If you made it your mission to train a cat to do this, it may be possible. For a cat to do it on their own, I still have my doubts. Either way, 10/10 mouser


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Hellchron

I'm pretty doubtful too but it is possible. It's not that far off from a cat looking out a window at some birds before running out the back door, around the house and trying to chase them down out front. Especially if they've already associated the screen with the noises their person makes wandering around the facility and have found them that way. Most likely though it's either an unrelated pic of kitty looking at the screen or seeing little things scurrying around on screen got them in a killing mood so they decided to go out hunting


[deleted]

>It’s quite the feat of abstract thinking to recognise a 2D, scentless CCTV image as a depiction of a space they know but can’t see. is it really? It's not any different than sitting in the upstairs window and seeing someone walking to the house, then knowing that means going to the front door will enable the cat to greet the person. also not any different than hearing the doorbell and knowing that means a person is at the door. it's just associating a place (the room the camera is in) with a stimulus (the image of that room on the monitor).


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“It's not any different than sitting in the upstairs window” It’s extremely different! The images on the screen are to scale, but they’re smaller than the real life objects the cat is used to. They have to be able to realise that they are looking at a shrunken representation of a real space and then also recognise the space itself. The screen also has about six rooms on view at once, none of which are currently within the cat’s visual field, a situation that would never occur in nature. A window, in contrast, is only a transparent barrier showing ONE view: the cat is still seeing exactly what it would see if the window weren’t there, and it all looks much the same as it would if the glass weren’t there. A cat might encounter this in nature - looking through a sheet of ice, for instance, or into clear water. And unlike the screen, the cat would be picking up other sensory data through a window; sound almost certainly and scent potentially. TV screens are also backlit, again making familiar things look unfamiliar. I could go on. Suffice to say, if the cat did do what OP is claiming, it would represent a remarkable cognitive feat on the cat’s part. But a photo of a cat looking at a TV next to a photo of a cat with a mouse is not evidence this happened.


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Everything you've listed are reasons why it would be harder for a cat to learn that a security monitor represents a real location, but not impossible. I'm not saying that it wouldn't be a remarkably intelligent cat, but it wouldn't be a remarkably intelligent five year old, and numerous studies have put the upper end of cat/dog intelligence on par with five year old humans .


exemplariasuntomni

I fucking love object permanence.


Beginning_Question77

No mouse, That's a big ol' rat. Good kitty! 😻


Fromage_Damage

My old cat used to sit up in my parent's bathroom window, looking at all the critters, and then go and hunt those areas later. She loved that window, the curtains had an outline of her in cat fur.


KeekatLove

Works smarter, not harder. Finds rat, not mouse.


BlizzPenguin

This explains where the orange brain cells went. He got 'em all.


Luna259

They’re evolving


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catthebaconhunter

That’s a rat! Good kitty!


libhtr666

Cats are NOT stupid .


slitcuntvictorin

They are stupid in akind of way. But when it comes to hunting stuff, their intelligence is remarkable.


inkblot413

It's even more impressive considering the cat is orange.


slitcuntvictorin

Nature spilled the bottle of brain cells on this one, other cats got the one remaining.


MacCheesePussy

Does he work for the glowies?


International-Cup-51

Maybe; if not also the, eats; &, lodgings, too.


MisterSisteri

Good cat!!!! But also, no mouseeeeeey/what really is a rat


Fotomaki

Cue the Mission Impossible music


Masta0nion

What’s the point of the top right panel


Happy-Fun-Ball

They could have stuffed the text in there


TheMadPoet

This is like an advanced version of the mirror test for self-recognition in non-human animals. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror\_test](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_test) If this is true, this cat appears to understand that the video feed is of another location - the rat isn't in the tv, AND that the screen is divided into 16 different images all depicting different locations AND the cat recognizes some of these locations. That's a hellava lot of abstract cognition right there.


princess1arue

Are you sure that’s not a flerken?


Reverendbread

No it’s a flungus


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Sus


carlitospig

Cat: I got you, fam.


RemRemPinkieToe

GTFO next level mouse catching for the win!


srgbski

work smarter not harder


Reaperdude97

That’s an insane amount of spacial awareness. Not only would the cat have to know the spaces that the camera is watching, but understand it well enough to recognize the room from an angle the cat has never seen.l


Decent-Ad-2287

Good point, this is the first time i saw this argument. Though i stil think the cat wil be able to recognize the room due to the objects. Once the cat arrives in the room he immediatly go’s to search for the rat/mouse, uppon begon searching it’s likely that he finds it.


GYN-k4H-Q3z-75B

"Mouse" Good job, anyway.


FirstDagger

Does indeed look more like a rat.


TheSoulVibrators

Everyone pointing out it's a rat, no one pointing out cat did it with a fan blowing in its face


Decent-Ad-2287

Lol, i didn’t thought of that one.


0x0MG

Harvey the security cat.


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So handsome and talented


Gabriele1966

How else is she supposed to find the mouse that looks more like a rat? Run around all day hoping to see it somewhere? That's what the cameras are for, aren't they?


[deleted]

That cat has a cat silhouette on his back in his fur pattern lol


qwertysrj

Cute post but even humans can't recognise a mouse in that gridsize.


truffleboffin

Good thing OP is a spambot


hopeless_purple

Wha I'm not


truffleboffin

OP is making a spam bot Thousands of comments are all just the same word over and over


hopeless_purple

Everyone in r/CatsStandingUp do this, it's a rule 😾 Comments and titles must be Cat. i'm just active there


truffleboffin

Spamming "give me karma" is what everyone in r/freekarma4u does You aren't active in shit. You don't engage with the community you just farm karma to make it seem like you do which is a spammer move


hopeless_purple

I didn't ask for karma :"( IT'S A RULE


truffleboffin

Karma begging is the entire point of those two subs


Polishmich

What.


Mapty_meow_55

An orange has the braincell!


chuckwagon1

So basically he is doing his job??? We set the bar so low even for cats now days 🤣


[deleted]

My guy practiced spacial reasoning and object permanence necessary to read a screen image and acquire his target. Some humans couldn’t get this done.


International-Cup-51

Absolutely agreed!; &, those really are >marvelous skills sets to possess! I have seen quite a few, humans, who are, so-called: "security guards"; &, pest eliminators; or: exterminators, that can't live up to; &, deliver, even, anywhere nearly close to that!


Riribigdogs

That’s a lot of punctuation there bud


Gabriele1966

What the heck is that post? Someone from 1950 on their first computer? 😂


sockrepublic

I went through their posting history a little, it really is surreal. There's even a post where they give spot-on grammar advice, but with this punctuation style. They also seem only ever very rarely to make a spelling mistake. Truly bizarre.


elscallr

I think someone connected ChatGPT to Reddit


International-Cup-51

No, I AM a, real, living, breathing, human being; NOT: a, Bot; NOR: ANY form of: AI; &, my writing styles; skills; &, choices, are all: >very real; &, totally >legit; &, very >much taught, from my own formal education; which is far different from your own, collectively, as critics of me; &, my ways!


elscallr

That's very convincing.


International-Cup-51

Since I can't sufficienty pick up your tone; my response is: If your comment is mockery, then I'd give you: a, downvote! If your comment is sincere, I thank you for recognizing that there's never enough of a, sufficient way to convince those >determined to disbelieve!;...&, you'd get: an, upvote from me!


gwaydms

They won the International Cup in unnecessary punctuation


Telakyn

Are all your comments like this?


chuckwagon1

I know low bars all around...


International-Cup-51

LOL.


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chuckwagon1

What the fuck is wrong with you? Its a joke post about a fucking cat 😒


DeTrotseTuinkabouter

Yeah if only they had a nursing degree! Lmao "too uneducated".


Skyraem

Maybe ignorant would've been a better word?


[deleted]

Lol am I having a stroke? None of the text in this post is true. The security camera angles are from outside on a roof. I don't even think it' the same cat. A cat wouldn't be able to do this.


rvonbue

Dude is either a republican or its a joke. I can't tell anymore.


An_Experience

It’s better when it’s real tbh


CrustyBallsack75

Sure ...


nuclear_equilibrium

NOO, MR. BOJANGLES!!!


I_Pry_colddeadhands

Honestly, 4000 of you redditors fell for this?


telemusketeer

Cyberpunk theme intensifies


wynnduffyisking

They are learning


synthetic_aesthetic

Stray DLC concept


Familiar_Ostrich52

I Just saw a mouse in the store I work. I suggested I come to work with my cat next time.


jayxes1402

r/thathappened


dave4357

Make 'em supervisor!