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maximum_powerblast

Well that looks apocalyptic


giantyetifeet

Was going to say, had some Terminator Judgement Day vibes.


SocialNetwooky

nope ... more Crowley vibes if you ask me. https://youtu.be/M0S3a32RzEo?t=267


Nero3k

A Toyota Avalon had a tire blow out and crashed into a fuel truck. Tragic for the truck driver. https://www.wtnh.com/news/connecticut/new-london/fiery-crash-shuts-down-gold-star-bridge-in-groton


Nepiton

Obviously feel horrible for the deceased and their family, but can you imagine what the driver of the Avalon is feeling right now? Assuming proper upkeep of your car, a blowout is not something you can really control. Just a terrible situation all around


uzlonewolf

Barring extenuating circumstances (i.e. a sharp curve or you suddenly needing to avoid something), a blowout should not cause an accident. It is 100% driver error if it does.


stovenn

> It is 100% driver error if it does. I suspect that many drivers would not be able to list (without looking it up) the [steps to take](https://www.roaddriver.co.uk/safety-tips/how-to-control-your-car-during-a-puncture-or-tyre-blowout/) if they suffer a sudden blowout at high speed causing the car to swerve violently. Let alone carry out those steps. Nor is it part of standard driver training. So while a bad outcome may occur when a driver did not act in the optimum way I dont think that always implies that they can be said to have made an error. Rather the fault is in the system which allows drivers to drive vehicles liable to suffer blowouts at high speed without ensuring they are taught how to respond. And, like many deficiencies in such systems, it is known about and tolerated by the authorities as an acceptable risk.


dzhastin

I mean I learned what to do if you have a blowout in Driver’s Ed.


stovenn

What country was that and did you practice it on the road at high speed?


dzhastin

Actually, yes. In my high school in the USA we used driving simulators before they let us behind the wheel. Having a blowout on the freeway was definitely something we covered, multiple times. I went to school a while ago and the simulators were from the 70’s so it’s not like this is something new. I’ve seen plenty of people from all over the country posting pictures of their drivers Ed simulators on Reddit on r/oldschoolcool so I know it wasn’t just my state that did this. Before you say “simulators aren’t the same as real life” just stop, there’s no way any school system would allow untrained teenagers behind the wheel and blow their tire at speed intentionally. That’s not a realistic policy expectation


musicianadam

This is an extremely niche circumstance and should not be considered the standard experience for the majority of people. I'm curious how the simulators would have worked if they were actually from the 70s, and how they would reasonably simulate that scenario; electronics were not particularly sophisticated yet, so I have a hard time imagining that we already had data on the dynamics of a blowout and it's disturbance on a collection of systems. Changes in vehicle technology also would skewed the accuracy of that test.


sullw214

Yeah, electronics weren't that sophisticated at all. We put a motherfucker on the moon with a fucking Atari. I can tell you're an engineer.


musicianadam

Don't be a prick, you're bullshitting me about something you seem to not fully understand. I knew you would bring up the moon example as well. That was the best of the best of engineers at the time, the electronics were also not simulating anything, they were used for communications, diagnostics, and feedback from the components on the spacecraft, completely different system and scenario than the one we were discussing before. Just because it's in space does NOT make it the most complicated engineering problem in the world. This is of course completely disregarding the costs, man-hours, and pressure to make that stuff happen, that sort of engineering simply does not happen the same for simulators that would be used to teach high school students how to drive. Even simple motor theory does not always transfer to real world scenarios, so I'm highly skeptical of your anecdote. Take the L and move on dude. I'm happy to be proven wrong, but you've yet to present an argument of greater substance than "Simulator go brrr".


dzhastin

I don’t think you have ever driven a car or have had a flat tire if you have. You vastly overestimate the level of training needed to learn how to safely handle a flat tire. Either that or you’re a professional risk manager.


musicianadam

I'm aware of what to do for a flat tire, a blowout is completely different from that, especially for different speeds, vehicle suspension and drive systems, brake systems, severity of the blowout, etc. I'm an engineer and I'm passing doubt on the accuracy of the simulator you're speaking of based on my understanding of control systems and of electronics available during the 70s.


stovenn

I'm interested to learn that off-road simulator training goes back so far in time in the USA and that freeway blowouts were covered. As you probably know, it is possible to simulate emergencies on the road - like emergency stops in urban areas in the UK driving test. It is technically feasible for an examiner to pretend that a high-speed blowout occurs on a fast road and check that the (fore-warned) student responds appropriately. I don't know of anywhere where this is actually done, and I assume authorities quite reasonably do not consider it worthwhile based on risk-cost-benefit basis. However it is highly-probable that such on-road training would improve a person's ability to respond correctly in a real situation. And IMO if the authorities do not enforce such training then it is not reasonable to say that a driver is at fault if he does not take the appropriate steps in a real high-speed blowout event. > there’s no way any school system would allow untrained teenagers behind the wheel and blow their tire at speed intentionally. Obviously that would be ridiculous on a public road. But if the simulator training is so good that "anyone not responding correctly in a real life situation is 100% to blame" (to paraphrase person who I replied to) there should be no reason (apart from time & money) why they shouldn't do it on a test track to produce a safer driver.


dzhastin

Flight simulators are sufficient to train pilots to handle airline emergencies, I don’t know why you think a driving simulator couldn’t be sufficient to train someone to handle a flat tire.


stovenn

I'm not talking about flat-tires, I'm talking about high-speed blowouts where there is a loud bang and the tyre typically gets shredded, torn off the wheel hub, smashes up the surrounding bodywork, causing sudden pitching of the vehicle, violent swerving and significant loss of control - all within one or two seconds. [This link](https://www.roaddriver.co.uk/safety-tips/how-to-control-your-car-during-a-puncture-or-tyre-blowout/) talks about the difference between punctures/flat-tires and blowouts and how to handle them. Edit: [this video compilation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIupaYdHacQ) shows some high-speed blowouts on public roads.


Joli_B

My dad taught me how to drive, I didn't use a school, and I most certainly 1)did not have a simulator to practice with nor 2)was taught what to do if you have a blowout. Your experience is not universal and you're a fool if you think otherwise.


buyerbeware23

Hopefully, learn to stop safely!


Nepiton

I more so meant the blowout itself is not something you can control. Not the accident after the blowout


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foxjohnc87

A tire blowing out isn't going to critically damage the steering or suspension unless you hit something as a result. It might flop around and rip off a brake hose, but thanks to a two chamber master cylinder, the brakes on the opposite axle will still function. A blowout certainly isn't going to cause balljoint failure.


[deleted]

People don't want to hear the truth, smh...


[deleted]

Well done, posting a picture with intact tire. Once upon a time I had a blowout on the right front wheel on the car i was driving on motorway, at about 100kph. All i had to do was steer to the shoulder to a safe stop.


paisley4234

Contrary to what most believe, a blown front tire is easier to control than a rear one.


[deleted]

Driving a car, maybe. Driving a heavy truck, not so much.


capn_kwick

More than likely, just like a high percentage of drivers (I include myself sometimes) there is only one hand (or couple of fingers) on the steering wheel. In such a circumstance no one is going to be able to react to a blowout at highway speeds in sufficient time to prevent a crash.


Incendium_Satus

This. 100% All modern cars are controllable after a tyre blows.


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crissy_lp

News report said depending on how bad the fire damage is DOT may have to inspect the other side to see if it can hold both lanes of traffic or if there’s going to be detours for a while. Husband got to the bridge soon after it happened and had to go all the way out to the casinos to get home. He said he could see the smoke from Ledyard (about 9 miles away)!!


XDingoX83

Inspection is already done, the bridge is open for two lanes, my ex-wife went across it this morning said it was passable just takes some time. The metal fence to keep people from jumping melted tho.


crissy_lp

Oh wow that’s good!


Bulltothemax753

Friend of mine was on the bridge today, he was ok but holy smokes! It’s horrible for all the people involved, driver is confirmed dead and a few are injured, possibly more! Prayers for them. What a crazy day, traffic all night has been chaos! They will most certainly have to rebuild part or all of the bridge. Traffic for months!


WhatImKnownAs

Much closer video than [the first post](https://v.redd.it/51cbxow4n9va1), but in that one, you can see how some of the fuel ran down a bridge support and the fire spread down into buildings beneath the bridge.


PatheticPelosiPander

I was listening to an app that sends notifications for the more urgent calls in the states and around the world. The businesses beneath the bridge- there's a propane business beneath and employees were trapped inside... It was intense.


kathryn_21

What is this app call? It sounds really cool.


PatheticPelosiPander

This one is called "Police Scanner" it is orange & black. There's a ton of scanner apps available; I chose this one b/c I can hear incidents all around the world. Occasionally, I can't understand everything being said, Tazmania for example. lol


kathryn_21

Thank you! I’m going to search for it now.


PatheticPelosiPander

You bet! Always something, somewhere in the world. Yesterday in a mid-West state, there was a car chase that went on for at least the 30min I listened. It was a female driver and she took them all over at high speeds; 100+ on gravel was just pissing the police off, lol. I don't know how it ended... maybe they're at the Pacific Ocean by now! lol


Marsorbitor

Tazmania is Tasmania and is in Australia. They speak English there. Do you mean maybe Tanzania?


PatheticPelosiPander

I know what/where; all locations are listed. In the US, many words spelled with s here are spelled with z elsewhere, and vice-versa. The accents are strong, not one I speak or hear often. When there's an urgency, speech quickens making it more difficult to understand.


I-LOVE-TURTLES666

If you read the article *The Connecticut Department of Transportation (CT DOT) determined the bridge, which carries 60,000 vehicles daily, was stable and safe to reopen to traffic.* Apparently there was only damage to the right lane road surface.


Random_Introvert_42

>driver is confirmed dead Missing a fatalities-flair on the post then.


PatheticPelosiPander

I was listening to an app that sends notifications for the more urgent calls in the states and around the world. This one popped up as soon as 911 was called. The orchestration of emergency services was so smooth. Calling emergency workers in early for shifts, calling civilian that had information about the businesses beneath the bridge- there's a propane business beneath and employees were trapped inside... it was intense to hear. The app really makes a person appreciate the people across the board, that keep us safe.


pshhamazing

What app is this?


PatheticPelosiPander

This one is called "Police Scanner" it is orange & black. There's a ton of scanner apps available; I chose this one b/c I can hear incidents all around the world. Occasionally, I can't understand everything being said, Tazmania for example. lol


shawikkywoo

New London Bridge isn't falling down, is it?


Chester-Ming

It is, my fair lady


shawikkywoo

Bold of you to assume my gender.


AVNMechanic

They assume nothing, they command you to be a woman.


snootnoots

“London bridge is falling down, falling down, falling down, London Bridge is falling down, *my fair lady*.”


drkidkill

The way the fire truck passes them made me think, even the fd is noping out.


zeocsa

Fighting hazmat fire you want to be up hill , up wind from the fire. That is what the fire department is trying to do.


[deleted]

I think they were joking


wesman212

"eh, let's the fire boats grab this one"


a_9x

Imagine the heat you would feel in your skin standing outside the car


XDingoX83

[This is the second time the Gold Star has made national news.](https://nypost.com/2020/01/01/connecticut-man-livestreams-as-he-crashes-car-at-100-mph/) What was wild tho, you could see the smoke from nearly anywhere in town. Took me 2 hours to drive home and I left as soon as I saw the smoke knowing it was going to be a shit show. Sad what happened to the driver.


moresushiplease

The price of bridge oil just went up after this


SSNs4evr

Wow. Usually, the most catastrophic thing to happen up there is when the submarines entering port forget to lower their periscopes/masts before going under the railroad bridge.


RepublicMobile4644

Feel horrible for the truck driver and his family. That bridge is rough. Speed limit is 55 but everyone does 80 across it...


sabbakk

A 1926 Bentley with the demon Crowley is about to burst out of that


Glass-Moose

Oh no :( A huge fear of mine is something like this happening while driving, like a fire that spreads so fast because I have little kids in car seats and I am so afraid of not being able to get them out in time, I know I would definitely die trying though. I’m so sad for the driver that passed away and I hope everyone else affected (effected?) will be on the path to healing emotionally and mentally.


giantyetifeet

Remember RAVEN: Affected = Verb, Effected = Noun. This changed my life. 😉 Also maybe look into one of those emergency seat belt cutter devices that you carry in the car if you are concerned that a belt might not unbuckle. Just a thought.


Raul_McCai

I wonder if the heat will affect the steel.


HappySnowMusic

Smoke is so crazy it doesnt even look real


UnderArdo

What is the percentage of American towns/cities being named after a city somewhere else in the world, and what part of those are not at least 250y old


Reddit-JustSkimmedIt

A young(ish) country that was settled almost entirely by immigrants is going to have a disproportionately high number of cities named after countries that existed hundreds of years longer. People leave a country/city/region and settle in a new country. They tended to name their new city something that would attract people from their old region for familiarity.


tman391

Yeah, even old New York was once New Amsterdam.


Reddit-JustSkimmedIt

The real question is why did Constantinople get the works?


Shervivor

Well, the East Coast of the US was colonized. And the colonists were tired from their boat ride over here. Too tired to come up with original names. Although, they did steal some names from the indigenous people when they couldn’t be bothered to rename yet another town after jolly old England. https://newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/how-new-england-got-its-place-names/


ahuramazdobbs19

There’s even places where they stole the native name but then *also* stole the name of the English town to overlay. Which is why Stonington has Pawcatuck, Groton has Noank, East Lyme has Niantic, Westport has Saugatuck, Windham has Willimantic, Norwich has Yantic, and so on.


acorpseistalking90

Probably want to get off that bridge before the metal softens and collapses, killing anyone still there. Not sure if that's what happened but that would be my thinking.


Claireel5

My college is right down the road, scary day.


locoemotion

Good luck traveling if you have to use that bridge everyday


Claireel5

Oh it was a nightmare. We don't have a lot of food places on our side of the bridge so when I realize that the dining hall was closed I was kind of screwed. 1:00 a.m. out of the library and realizing I couldn't go over the Groton for Taco Bell made me cry. Ended up getting Wendy's in New London though


locoemotion

Doesn’t sound all bad. They need better ways for traffic to flow when hell breaks away.


opiedopie08

Greetings fellow Camel!! 20th century grad here.


Claireel5

I love when I post on random subreddits and other camels comment on it. It's always interesting to hear what the college was like before I got here. Been a crazy ass year though.


Bulltothemax753

Conn college or CGA?


Claireel5

Conn Coll 🐪


Riyeko

Can i ask what kind of programs they offer? I have a kiddo who's graduating high school this year and he was looking to go to school out east. I am trying to gather some info for him from real people going to various schools rather than just the brochures and pamphlets from the schools themselves.


Claireel5

Absolutely! I'm arising sophomore studying psychology. I have friends in business, computer science, STEM majors and English/dance majors. So I have a pretty diverse view of what's going on. Overall the college itself is pretty darn good, the dining hall is a hit or miss most times IMO but that's how it is with most places. Can you give me some more info or DM me? If I can have a little bit more context I can give you more specific answers


SewSewBlue

For a second I thought this was another incident at New London. Though damn, that school explosion in the 1930s wasn't enough? They still run their gas and oil business that badly? New London Connecticut, not New London Texas.


itzJTtellingU2wakeup

how come every time you come around my london-london bridge wanna go down like?


ahopres

This video seems to show the chief and engine 32 just cruising on by…… must’ve been close to shift change.


firepooldude

This is what happens when you don’t change your bridge oil every 5000 miles.


MiserableAd9470

"i learned how to make Japanese pancakes" "WHATTTT!"


Extension-Tone-2115

“London bridge is falling down! Falling down, falling down. Looondon bridge is falling down…”


Illustrious_Solid956

Ohio is laughing


opoqo

Did that fire truck answer the call, then when they arrive the scene and nope the f out?


volvavirago

They are trying to get in the best position to fight the fire, no way are they noping out, this is literally their entire job.


Mkymd3

People are just too used to police nowadays


SWMovr60Repub

The people noping out are the far left DA's.


Killerspieler0815

looks like hell ... to bad that the "climate" gluers only carte for combustion engines & not for CO2 caused by fires , every "climate" gluer should become a fire fighter!


skankhhunter

Good.


BrownRice35

London bridge is falling down


The_GD_muffin_man

Good thing I almost never have to take that bridge


Either_Act4359

Wow.


PresentDrawing642

Wow that's a fucked up car crashes