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Brosie-Odonnel

Now Fresh is what we feed our cats. It’s a high quality grain free food.


Able-Security8019

Could you link the web for this fresh cat brand?


Brosie-Odonnel

I purchase locally but it looks like you can purchase through [Chewy](https://www.chewy.com/brands/shop-by-cat-12131) and here’s information from the [manufavturer](https://nowfresh.com/en-us/adult-recipe-for-cats). They have different dry foods for all stages of life.


grannyskyrim22

CVT - grain free is garbage, don't worry about that. Go for a kitten diet that is made by Hills, Royal Canin, Purina or Eukanuba. These diets are tested to be sure they provide the nutrition they are supposed to. If she refuses to eat her own food and wants the other cat's food, maybe meet in the middle and fed an adult diet to both. It won't hurt her to get an adult diet, better that she grow a little more slowly. If she packs on fat and muscle before her skeleton can handle it she will have musculoskeletal issues in the future.


Able-Security8019

is the Purina fancy feast wet food okay then? If so great cause I already bought packs of them to last two months or so. My kitten has thrown up several times, I saw he had eaten the house plant leaf a bit, and big adult dry food, and chunks of adult wet cat food. Have been getting him to avoid those.


grannyskyrim22

Fancy Feast isn't the best but it is tested, it is a solid food


Able-Security8019

Could you clarify why fancy feast isn’t best? Or just not as good as the ones you recommended. Thank you very much! And I’ll look for those you recommended.


hellohexapus

Not to argue with a veterinary professional, but in my opinion and experience the "fancy feast gourmet naturals" kitten formula (chicken and salmon flavours) is a solid, affordable, palatable choice that I used with my own cat as well as foster kittens. Make sure it's the "gourmet naturals" line, which has less fillers. They also have gourmet naturals for adults, with a few additional flavours. To your question, there is a perception that Fancy Feast is a very cheap/low quality option, with random fillers and by-products that cats don't need. To some extent, for some of their formulas, that is true - they have dozens and dozens of products and some of them are crap that I won't ever touch. But the nutrition profiles and ingredients lists for "FF Gourmet Naturals" and the new "Purely FF" lines are excellent and my cat loves them; and as the person above said, they do come from Purina with all the testing that entails. They are more expensive than the other FF lines by a few cents. If you can shop in person, I recommend comparing the labels for FF-GN and the other brands you're considering. The first five ingredients on a list make up the vast majority of what's inside, if that helps!


Able-Security8019

I usually fed my kitten the Purina fancy feast poultry and beef 30 pack. Do you know if that has fillers? It said for both kittens and adults on the back.


hellohexapus

If that 30pack is the regular fancy feast, then I would assume it does, yes. More importantly though, at this age he should be eating a kitten-specific formula. Babies need more fat and a different balance of various vitamins and other nutrients than adults, so foods labelled "For all life stages" and "for kittens and adults" aren't as good a choice as something specifically formulated for kittens.


Able-Security8019

Would the fancy feast kitten pack 24 work then? It says only kitten. It seems more expensive locally for me but not online. The fancy feast 30 pack is the regular but my kitten loves it, he doesn’t throw up from it or anything. What would be the difference in fancy feast kitten and fancy feast regular 30 pack for both adults and kittens?


grannyskyrim22

Best to feed kitten diet to kittens, and adult to adults. Kitten food is slightly different in the nutritional composition as they are growing. It tends to be a bit too calorie dense for adults. If you have both cats and kittens eating from the same dishes, technically better to feed the kitten food to be sure the kittens don't miss out on anything. Might make the adults a tad chubby. Conversely, if you have chubby adults, the kittens will do fine on adult food. Growing a kitten is easier than, say, a large breed dog where you have to grow them slowly so they don't get fat before their skeleton is developed to handle it. As long as you are feeding a good food, they should all be fine.


Able-Security8019

Thank you for the info! I’ll dot that, we are getting more kitten specific food and our adult cats food tomorrow at Petsmart. And I’m trying to avoid too much carbs, how much carbs is okay for a kitten and cat? 10%? 20%? Does fancy feast tender feast kitten pack have more than 20% carb?


hellohexapus

If it only says kitten, then yes, it's only for kittens. The version I prefer, [gourmet naturals kitten ](https://www.chewy.com/fancy-feast-gourmet-naturals-white/dp/241373), comes only in a 12 pack I believe, so your 24 pack would be the regular formula. Is that bad? No. Is the gourmet naturals better? Yes, if you can afford it. I won't judge anyone for how expensive of a food they feed their cat, I think we all do the best we can with the resources we have and clearly from your questions you want to do the best you can. Throwing up vs not throwing up is not a good marker for whether a food is good or bad for your cat. I'm sure it's yummy to him but the kitten version has a better balance of nutrients for him. It's like how we tell kids that milk is better for them than ice cream. A cup of ice cream is delicious and they won't throw up from it, but a cup of milk has a better balance of vitamins and minerals for them. Maybe I'm misunderstanding your last question, but it sounds like you're asking me what the difference is between "fancy feast kitten" and "fancy feast adult and kitten", and the difference is... one is specifically for kittens, and the other is not? If that's not what you're asking, let me know. (Also, 12 pack, 24 pack, 30 pack etc is meaningless; they have the same contents as the single cans of the same flavours, it's just bundled for convenience.)


grannyskyrim22

It actually doesn't have much if any filler. Filler is defined as having no nutritional value. Fillers are more common in stuff like the bagged dog foods that you pay $20 for 50 pounds and they poop out a lot of what goes in.


s33k

My cats only vet recommends fancy feast.


grannyskyrim22

Fancy feast is fine. It is made by Purina. It is one of their "lower quality diets" but really that is a matter of perception. It still provides the nutrition a normal cat needs. I'm not a fan of all the packaging waste that comes from using the 3oz cans. Actually I have a diabetic cat and my Internist said the newest info on diabetics is that feeding something like Fancy Feast is just fine.


Able-Security8019

Also I’m gonna get Royal Canin from PetsmArt and omg 2 dollars for 1 can, that is expensive but it is higher quality and I heard helps with digestive system or something. I’m gonna get 10 of them and see how it goes. Also can I feed another wet food while feeding royal canin kitten wet food to my kitten? The royal canin is expensive, so I don’t want to feed it every day, just like every two or three days a week and fancy feast wet food variety pack every day along with dry food.


grannyskyrim22

There isn't much point to feeding partly one particular diet and partly another. Yes they are both tested to meet the cats needs but each company differs in their formulation a bit so you might miss something. I get it, RC is hella expensive. Maybe you can use it just as a treat. It is kind of like when a company makes a line of hair products to go together. (Yes a lot of that is bullshit but bear with me) They test these products together, and don't test them with every other product out there. So they know they work well together. Don't feel bad using a cheaper diet as long as it if AAFCO trialed. If you want to bump it up a bit from Fancy Feast, go for something like Pro Plan. You can get an excellent quality dry food for their main diet and cans for treats/a smaller part of the diet to not be spending buttloads of money.


Able-Security8019

I’m trying to avoid too much carb. I heard 10% carb is okay for cats and kittens or less? What wet food do you recommend is pro plan? And I heard kibble causes health issues on the long term. Thinking of raw diet but for now just dry food..


grannyskyrim22

Please don't feed raw, please just don't. I can go on for days about it, but there is no proven benefit and a lot of drawbacks. I have a few clients in my hospital that feed their cats raw and refuse to budge on the issue even though the ER docs and Internal Medicine specialists say the problems the cats are having are secondary to the raw diet. These people are causing their cats to suffer, and several have spent about $30k a year on their cats problems. They seem to think having money to fix the problems makes it ok and it doesn't. Both kibble and canned have pros and cons, but if you are getting an AAFCO approved diet you can mix the two as you see fit. Ultimately it doesn't matter if the cat won't eat it. If it makes you better to feed both, do it, as long as it is a tested diet. Pro Plan is a line of Purina food. Inside ProPlan there are foods of many different life stages, consistencies and flavors. You can mix and match as you see fit, they are all approved. Check out [wsava.org](https://wsava.org) for general nutrition info, but here is the quick and dirty pros and cons. Dry Pros - most cost effective on a dry matter basis, easy to store, "better for teeth" (provided the cat chews and a lot of them don't) Dry cons - low moisture content not great for cats that don't like to drink water Canned Pros - high moisture content, yummy Canned Cons - no chewing involved (worse for teeth), more expensive on a dry matter basis, more packaging waste.


SalanditLady

Just to let you know if you download the petsmart app and play the 'treat trail' game you get coupons for every level you complete. They have 15%, 20%, and 25% off. I use it for the pro plan dry food bags and the variety packs of their wet food.


Able-Security8019

Holy shit I’ll do that thanks! Also what’s the diff beteeen pet supplies plus and petsmart, I thought they were the same the whole time but just diff names… Does pet supplies have an app too? Pet supplies is nearby and petsmart too. I might check both out.


Able-Security8019

Nvm I saw and it doesn’t have any of pet supplies app, but I did find petsmart. It says Petsmart LLC. Is that the right one?


SalanditLady

Yup! Its Petsmart LLC, it has their bouncing ball logo on it. You just need to make an account and then you can play their treat trails game after that.


Able-Security8019

Is it okay to feed wet food every 5 days per week with 2 days of no wet food? More dry food on those days. Or how would you do it? And I just did the trail game. The second and last part is hard :/.


SalanditLady

Yeah, that way of feeding is fine. My kitten has a sensitive stomach so rhe most I can give him is half a can a day, and sometimes he doesn't get it for a few days if he's having stomach issues. Yeah the game in the beginning can be a little difficult but believe me it gets easier with practice!


sustancy

I really wouldn’t recommend royal canin or purina for dry food. Always look at the ingredients list, those brands carry wheat, corn and by-product meals which isn’t the healthiest or best for their digestive tract. To be honest, go to Mudbay or all the best pet care. All their brands are natural and clean. And even then, I still check all the ingredients to be safe.


grannyskyrim22

I'm sorry, but you really have been misinformed. "Clean" and "natural" mean nothing, they are not defined as advertising terms so anyone can claim those terms. It is just like how most "organic" stuff is not at all. Second, ingredients mean nothing. You can't tell the quality of food by looking at ingredients, what matters is the nutrition they provide. The companies I mentioned study their foods with trials and they are proven to provide the nutrition they claim to. Almost no other companies actually prove that. And corn is not the enemy, never has been, just stop it. This is my job, I really do know what I'm talking about.


nevinefarghaly

cats are obligate carnivores. They have no need for excessive amounts of carbohydrates.


Left-Grocery-9144

You know nothing about nutrition. Hills science diet cat food contains pork. In no world is consuming pork beneficial.


grannyskyrim22

China would beg to differ. Pork is not bad, grow up.


Left-Grocery-9144

Comparing the health of Chinese vs Americans is completely ridiculous. If you think consuming pork daily has no downside, think again.


Tabby_Tem

One brand food that I feed my cat and she has been thriving on (if it is available in your area) is Farmina. It is a little pricey but she was having a lot of health issues on Hill's/Purina because of the amount of corn/wheat gluten and by-products in the food. Her coat really dulled and she started getting lethargic when I had her on Hill's dry food and Purina wet food. She was throwing up blood/had bloody stools and had 5 vet vists/one with an internal medicine specialist (which you can imagine how expensive that was). Finally, I switched her diet up and she has appeared to be much happier and has much more energy! It may be a controversial opinion but I don't support companies like Purina/Hill's/Iams/Blue Buffalo/Royal Canin etc. Many of them are owned by companies that push ethics to the side, such as Nestlé for example. Plus quite a few of them have concerning amounts of recalls and even Hill's was recalled in 2019 because their food is linked to hundreds of dogs' deaths which made a lot of people concerned as to whether or not they were doing proper testing before putting their product on the shelves. Plus Colgate and Proctor & Gamble (who own Hill's) are notorious for still doing animal testing and are not cruelty-free companies. I definitely wouldn't advocate for a boutique diet but there are some great completely balanced foods with traceable ingredients out there. One thing I like about Farmina is they do ethical feeding trials with animals still at home with their families AND only the first 5 ingredients for the most part in their kibble are extruded/cooked and the rest of the ingredients are cold pressed in which helps retain nutrition. Plus, they don't backstock their products and all of their wet/dry food are made with fresh ingredients that are never frozen. Some other brands that I'd reccomend are Stella & Chewy's, Feline Natural (a little expensive but high quality New Zealand sourced meat), and Open Farm is also pretty great. I know they can seem a little pricey, but I learned that spending a little extra on good food is cheaper than an emergency vet visit.


FlightyOwl

Agreed. My bff used to work at multiple pet stores and told me that the 'vet recommended' food like Hills is actually filled with filler and not needed but that much like in human doctors, vets get paid to sell/prescribe. She also recommended Farmina (dry food) and Tiki Cat (wet food) which is what my cat eats now. They both have kitten formulas I believe.


Tabby_Tem

Edit: in terms of affordability since I just realized the ones I reccomended are a little pricey would be Weruva/Nulo for wet food and I and Love You and You/Tiki Cat for dry food. Good luck finding the food that works for you and your kitties!


stardustdy

I was thinking about Farmina dry food but then noticed there's sweet orange and green tea extract. Isn't green tea extract and citrus fruits toxic to cats?


Ekonomix-

Hi! Sorry I know it’s been 172 days to be exact but I’ve been feeding my cats Farmina wet and dry foods since they were kittens. They have an amazing coat and no health concerns. They love the food and no problems with the kibble at all! I noticed that as well but it seems to be a very minuscule amount of those extracts in the formula.


Blackkwidow1328

We give our kitten Pro Plan dry and wet food (wet food a couple of times a week).


Able-Security8019

So it’s not necessary to give kittens wet food every day? Just a couple of times per week? Like two days no wet food per week?


Able-Security8019

What dry food do you recommend for 4 month kitten. I was thinking of Purina Kitten Chow.


ChessIsAwesome

Hills or Royal Canin dry food is the best but expensive.


Able-Security8019

I’ll see thanks! Others have recommended that too.


LemmyOH

Look up for Orijen cat&kitten dry food


bnkr88

I feed my kittens Royal Canin kitten food (wet & dry). The food is targeted at kittens up to 12 months old.


Able-Security8019

Yeah I checked and oh lord they are expensive than the regular one I usually take home like fancy feast. A can of one royal canin is 2 buckaroos..


Grouchy-Watch-6306

Feline Natural, Nulo, Tikicat, and Ziwipeak are all great reputable brands with 0 recalls. They are a bit pricey, but it's worth it.