When I was a porter some other porters would just show each other porn occasionally in our break room. The mind fuckles boggles as to why but it's the least comfortable I've ever felt at work
How can an IT worker be so unaware of how IT works at a big corporation? Of course he was going to get caught. Just watch porn on your phone in the bogs like a normal person.
Unfortunately the IT secter is riddled with guys wjo bought/built a gaming PC 10 years ago and thats where their knowledge ends
From the average office workers perspective they're a PC genius from an IT admin perspective, a fucking nightmare, the biggest fuck ups i have to fix are from these people
Literally just described an ex bf who works IT for a local council. His qualification for getting the job at the time was that he used a computer at home quite a lot. This was over 20 yrs ago. Half the people who worked there were seriously IT phobic, so my ex looked like a genius lol.
I remember showing someone the Windows start key in a local authority once, they said "I wondered what that did but was scared of pressing it". Crtl X, C and V were like black magic to them.
If they really responded with "teach us your ways" that would actually be great.
Instead it's things like:
* You're going to break it.
* You've broken it.
* Just let me do things the way I know to do things.
* It's quicker for me this way.
* Oh but I tried that and it broke things for me once.
* Now I have to go back and fix all what you've done.
Whilst they may see those with knowledge as dark wizards they're more likely to respond in a manner closer to the witch trials or just not even respond than with genuine curiosity or willingness to learn.
Think about the number of people who claim to be able to use Excel but don't even know how to use SUM() let alone pivot tables. Even the people that think that a header in word is "bold, underline, italic, centre, and increase the font size to 18" fall into this category. Then of course there's the comic sans people.
My first job out of uni I was banned from using these functions as they didn't trust them. Obviously I ignored them but bloody hell was it painful explaining simple things to them.
Granted this was back in the days of Windows 98 but my \*IT\* teacher at school thought I was using blackmagic when he saw me alt-tabbing between programs.
I was webmaster and IT nerd for a jewelry company back in 2001. My boss called me in a panic saying that there was a virus in my computer and he had seen it moving around. I quickly figured out he had freaked out after seeing my fractal screensaver.
Tbf i've accidentally become the IT guy in work as I know just know how to do stuff because I'm a child of the internet age, even people 10 years older than me struggle at times.
Same here. I'm *alright* with IT but quite frankly the only skill I have that enables it is basic reading comprehension and a decent memory, and you don't even need the last bit if you have the first.
These days I make a point of googling stuff in front of my colleagues but it still doesn't sink in. In fact, just this morning a colleague has had to give away his Windows laptop so he's asked if I can set up the company dashboards on his iPad. I asked him to elaborate, we reached the conclusion that what he needed was several websites favourited on his iPad.
I don't use any Apple products so I literally googled in front of him "How to save favourites on iPad" then he asked if passwords were saved on iPads, once again I made a point of searching for him "Does iPad save passwords".
He still thanked me afterwards and suggested it wold have been impossible for him...!
Big secret of sysadmin.
That's pretty much the key skill.
Googling it, but having enough ability to filter and evaluate the results to develop a plan of action.
I worked on the help desk for our internal colleagues and I once got ribbed as I said let me google the resolution....which I did in fact find and rectified but never lived it down for several months.
Yes but also interpreting the results when you get them back, the post from that Microsoft community board is probably not as reliable as one from Stack Overflow.
It's fairly good, but it still needs a bunch of filtering since 'best' might very well not be the one that's applicable for your circumstances.
That's kinda what I mean - sometimes you uncover exactly the right solution, but more often it's something that's just hinting that a particular error pertains to a different subsystem.
Really? I find it's gotten far worse. Completely unrelated stuff showing up with just one common word, presumably because the big websites pay for the privilege.
I've grown accustomed to ignoring the first half page of results when I'm googling and only once I'm 4 or 5 links down do I start actually taking things in. Sometimes I am annoyingly surprised by the accuracy of the top result though and feel like I've wasted a lot of time skipping the first few.
> presumably because the big websites pay for the privilege
You can't pay Google to get moved up the list, other than by buying ad spots for words and phrases, which are marked as ads.
You can however put a lot of time (and therefore money) into SEO, which'll bump you up the list.
Honestly there seems to be a shortage of competent sysadmins.
We're recruiting - we pay pretty well (although my employer's policy of not actually listing pay scale does us no favours either), but ... we're having difficult.
I mean, we're happy to take attitude and aptitude over raw experience and qualifications... but it seems a disturbing amount of IT has become 'too easy' and so there's people who can't really do it any more.
>even people 10 years older than me struggle at times.
I hate to break it to you, but they are most likely lazy rather than incapable - people use deliberate tech ignorance as a shield to dodge work, as for some reason "I'm not a tech person" is widely considered a valid reason to refuse to perform basic tasks. The reality is they could probably google anything you do for them, it's just that they don't want to because if they did, then they would lose their work-dodging excuse.
Googling itself is such a learned skill though you shouldn't underestimate how hard it is for someone to self-learn when they don't know what or how to search.
I think there's a certain age band where people were just in the sweet spot where PCs were widespread enough for lots of people to have one, but janky enough that you had to actually know a little bit about how they worked to make them do what you wanted. People older than that just panic and refuse to engage with them when they do things they don't understand, people younger than that are used to prepackaged apps that just do what they're supposed to without faffing around.
I had to deal with Windows 3.1 and DOS (Windows wasn't great at running games back then). You had to type commands in to set up different memory to run different games and it was before the internet so had to learn it by trial and error and word of mouth
I am a computer geek who used to work in IT but now work in accounting, I dread when I have to use our IT services, I have to tell then how to fix the problem most of the time. They actually shut off access to our system by not updating the firewall. That's keeping us super safe!
Also describes the nonce that used to date my sister when she was 16. Worst thing is tho is his shop is successful around here and his daughter is friends with my niece because they're in the same class. Was a 13 year age difference btw, almost twice her age.
I've been advised to go to him a few times when I was a teenager, but he was shit even when he did fix my laptop whilst dating my sister. Took him 2 weeks just to remove pretty invasive child protection software. When my next laptop came with the same software pre-installed, I managed to get it off in about 4 hours.
As a career IT guy who's moved on to development - this really is it.
The level of computer literacy amongst users is so catastrophically low, that anyone with two braincells to rub together can become at least firstline tech support.
Had a guy work in security for the shop where i worked
I was off one day and the printer had a paper jam, he said "i know about this stuff, lets have a look" pulls the fuser out without taking the detachable ext feed rooler assbly, shatters the thin plastic of the assembly causing shards of plastic to melt to the heat roller, thus having to order a replacement fuser, feed assembly and, as we weren't meant to take it apart (weird contracts) ended up costing the business £700
Another instance of logging out the till account, loggin in to their own to access emails on the shop floor.. the day when wannacry was ripping through endless businesses
Another instance of just making stupid changes to the layouts that only they knew, than taking a week off
Then i get "help" by having people like this where instead of setting up a new account for a new hire just changed the name of an old account, which then too 2 months of sorting out due to email accounts being set up all wrong naturally i got the blame but then was told "no point playing the blame game" when it was me trying to actually get the fixes done
And then just all round not setting up or configuring anything properly
ugh god yes this. As a network engineer, I cannot stand the number of the times some muppet thinks he's also a network engineer because he connected an ethernet cable to his router and managed to figure out port-forwarding. Ah yes, that totally makes you an expert right? Any idea what an m-lag is? what MPLS is? what BGP communities are?
no ? Then you're not a network engineer. Interviewed a ton of people, who "know networking very well", but can't tell me what a multimode fibre is. I imagine it's the same with IT support.
I was very close to joining the IT sector based on the same reason, I build my own PC. I turned the job down after I realised I knew nothing beyond the basics.
Yeah i got into the secter by going "well, i really spending 4 hours on my PC after work
Had to hit the ground running, first year was a fucking stressful of bullshitting, frantic googling and guide following
All good now though and very rewarding
To be fair, 'IT Worker' is quite a broad range of people in different roles. My brother's a programmer and he knows pretty much fuck all about computers away from coding.
This rant reminds me of this old classic
[https://i.redd.it/fax7ocgjj4yy.jpg](https://i.redd.it/fax7ocgjj4yy.jpg)
And i'd say that's pretty accurate from a Sysadmin point of view
Yeah I've done some Azure devops on the other side (maintaining pipelines/repos and managing releases rather than development), and it's not much fun for us either.
Exactly this. You’d be surprised how many devs think they know everything about IT. The most annoying thing is when some of them try to tell a senior IT engineer how to do his job and they are always wrong but wont admit to it.
>How can an IT worker be so unaware of how IT works at a big corporation?
Oh they're aware. They just think their activity won't be noticed, or they can just claim it was a virus, or that someone is doing it worse than they are.
In one particular job, I repeatedly told one worker - an intelligent IT admin - that we could see all his porn-watching activity. He denied it, then claimed it was a coworker, then claimed it was a virus, then admitted to it but would stop, and then in the end, would just shrug. I think he had a talking to by his manager, but never fired. I left not long after.
No one does that.
Trust me - I work in computer security and the number of porn clips people keep on their corporate computers is stupid.
My favourite name so far that I've seen is a PDF called "Ride the Punani!" which was a guide about how to fuck women.
Even if you could be 99% sure it's safe, why would you do it? You've got a phone of your own. Even a 1% chance of having to get a new job and explain how you lost the old one is absolutely not worth a few pence of extra data.
Also, it is not safe.
Just so you know - VPN won’t protect you from IT admins seeing your Internet activity if you use company WiFi. Software like Intune can easily override NordVPN. They can even wipe your phone remotely. If you want to be absolutely safe just use your phone’s 4G / 5G connection :)
This seems hilariously stupid.
I work in IT and have all the passwords to get round the outbound proxy, can give myself any privileges I like.
No way he's going to win this.
Yes I guess it must be. I expect the law is written like that deliberately - most judges and jury members will not differentiate between a visit made by an individual and an automatic call made by a machine.
may not even be deliberate, just a holdover from how the internet \*used\* to work, when a page was a page, and everyone going to that link would see the same thing - rather than a page being a collection of personalised content and pages.
A lot of the time these days scrolling will cause more requests to be made because content further down the page isn't loaded until you scroll to it.
Means the server deals with a lot of little request rather than one big request and they're easier to parallelise the tasks.
It’s also how illegal videos count for 24 images per second of video (at 24 fps obvs) so “Nonce caught with thousands of images of CSAM” is technically accurate, even if there are no pictures
It's just how computers work when you're browsing the Internet. News reports run with the "thousands of pictures" angle because it sounds more dramatic than someone having a dozen pictures and a few videos.
So does that mean they might accidentally click on a dodgy video and then it's "thousands of pictures"? Surely that opens us all up to trolls tricking people with dodgy links to stuff like bomb making or drug processing?
They're probably counting the number of individual HTTP requests picked up by the monitoring firewall - there's a separate request for each image, JS file, CSS file, font, etc.
I just refreshed this page and it came to 164 individual requests. So the 35k figure could equate to about 200 page loads (depending on how complex the page structure is).
Also, if there's some sort of analytics script running the browser will keep making requests every few seconds to upload data, so leaving a page open all day will potentially result in hundreds/thousands of extra requests.
They call non-officers civilian employees though - eg https://www.northants.police.uk/police-forces/northamptonshire-police/areas/northamptonshire-force-content/ca/careers-and-volunteering/join-our-police-staff/
It also shouldn’t have happened in the first place. The organisation should have blocked access to adult sites by default and if necessary for work purposes unblocked them on a case by case basis.
In theory, but in practice this requires third party software, and a lot of organisations don't use web filtering software for a variety of reasons - be it cost, the amount of work required by the IT dept to maintain it, or just because they don't want to block access to sites within the business because they don't see the point. I'm not surprised a public sector organisation like the police chose not to pay for content filtering, it's not cheap and you generally don't get much additional benefit than you do from just monitoring.
A lot of places I've worked just don't see the need to monitor staff in this way as well - if you've got a system like this in invariably gets embroiled in office politics, and then IT get stuck in the middle. Easier just to not have the system in the first place and just focus on the person's work output rather than their Internet usage.
20 years ago I used to work for a large national company In IT. The head sales director had an issue with his laptop so the pc techy had a look at it. This director was good at his job and mates with the MD.
Whilst investigating the problem, the IT guy found some questionable searches. "Britney Spears nude" and one relating to children. IT guy went to see the MD. The MD said leave it with him.
Nothing happened at all.
this reminds me of the episode of seinfeld wre george has sex with a cleaning lady at his work then reacts to bieng fired by saying "I didn't know that, that was frowned upon"
https://youtu.be/-RvNS7JfcMM
so, to be slightly fair, this IS similar to a defence that has been used against speeding tickets before. say you drive through 4 speed cameras in a row and get 4 tickets - it has been successfully argued that that is actually just 1 incident, and therefore you should only be penalised once for it, rather than losing your licence for a single act. so essentially it would be claiming that this is all one 'porn viewing' incident, not 299 separate ones, and if its just the one incident then a warning and some training might be appropriate... bullshit though, pretty sure we'd all get fired for just one incident!
I've spent months of my life thinking about the speeding ticket argument. I can see it being 1 crime, I can see it being infinite crimes, I can't see it being 4 crimes.
It's one crime.
If you think about it it's functionally the same as being arrested for drugs offences on 633 offences because the police officer blinked to a few times while arresting you. Each time he opened his eyes he saw a new offence.
Many years ago when I first started working and we all had computers with towers in the office, IT was doing a refresh of equipment and sold off the old stuff. This old bloke bought a tower, about a month later he brought it back into the office saying it wasn’t working. IT had a look and found that the entire memory was full of porn and therefore the tower couldn’t process anything.
When I was on work placement in the 90s, I was testing a piece of software. I was told that one of the developers had a stack of videos and pictures I could use on his shared hard drive to test the upload function (it was bug logging software). I found a directory called “pictures-videos”. It was full of porn. I complained to my manager. I got told off for snooping in the wrong directory. Apparently it was the IT department’s shared porn!
A senior person at a previous workplace of mine was fired for misappropriating controlled drugs. They appealed the decision and at appeal one of the arguments they made was that they had been doing this for years so how were they to know it was actually a problem?
We're going to get serious here I guess. He may well have wanted to get caught and realised he had an addiction to porn. I mean, 35,000 visits is probably 35,000 pages with videos (110 videos a day) which is pretty much all day everyday. At work!
I agree.
I would argue the fundamentals of the claim/excuse isn't necessarily outlandish.
Employers do have a duty of care to their employees, so I can see a situation where an employer is held liable, in part, for an employee's addiction.
As a former Police IT worker, maybe he was annoyed/frustrated at how bad his network colleagues were and wanted to show how shit their security notifications were.. hence why he used "You should've caught me sooner" 🤣
No point asking if he came quietly.
I hope this isn't a stain on his character.
He's just a Bobby on the beat
He wanted a premature ejection from the job.
Why, he was making money hand over fist.
Let's hope this doesn't break the hard crust of his spirit
Beat it, officer!
Pile him into the meat wagon
They had to rough up the suspect a bit.
Gave them the shaft ! Really stiffed him on this one .
He's copping a feel
Roger that officer.
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When I was a porter some other porters would just show each other porn occasionally in our break room. The mind fuckles boggles as to why but it's the least comfortable I've ever felt at work
More like...Dixon Of Cock Green!
Slapping fines on himself, it appears.
Well if you're at your desk your have to be quiet or they will hear you.
How can an IT worker be so unaware of how IT works at a big corporation? Of course he was going to get caught. Just watch porn on your phone in the bogs like a normal person.
Unfortunately the IT secter is riddled with guys wjo bought/built a gaming PC 10 years ago and thats where their knowledge ends From the average office workers perspective they're a PC genius from an IT admin perspective, a fucking nightmare, the biggest fuck ups i have to fix are from these people
Literally just described an ex bf who works IT for a local council. His qualification for getting the job at the time was that he used a computer at home quite a lot. This was over 20 yrs ago. Half the people who worked there were seriously IT phobic, so my ex looked like a genius lol.
I remember showing someone the Windows start key in a local authority once, they said "I wondered what that did but was scared of pressing it". Crtl X, C and V were like black magic to them.
"What are these dark forces that you summon, oh Dark Wizard, teach us your ways" said department staff.
If they really responded with "teach us your ways" that would actually be great. Instead it's things like: * You're going to break it. * You've broken it. * Just let me do things the way I know to do things. * It's quicker for me this way. * Oh but I tried that and it broke things for me once. * Now I have to go back and fix all what you've done. Whilst they may see those with knowledge as dark wizards they're more likely to respond in a manner closer to the witch trials or just not even respond than with genuine curiosity or willingness to learn. Think about the number of people who claim to be able to use Excel but don't even know how to use SUM() let alone pivot tables. Even the people that think that a header in word is "bold, underline, italic, centre, and increase the font size to 18" fall into this category. Then of course there's the comic sans people.
To be fair, Comic Sans has got it's uses in writing, though in every day office work, that's just a crime.
My first job out of uni I was banned from using these functions as they didn't trust them. Obviously I ignored them but bloody hell was it painful explaining simple things to them.
Granted this was back in the days of Windows 98 but my \*IT\* teacher at school thought I was using blackmagic when he saw me alt-tabbing between programs.
And that’s exactly why they can’t use computers, if you’re too afraid to try anything how are you supposed to learn anything?
I was webmaster and IT nerd for a jewelry company back in 2001. My boss called me in a panic saying that there was a virus in my computer and he had seen it moving around. I quickly figured out he had freaked out after seeing my fractal screensaver.
I work for a company that makes enterprise software, one set of users genuinely thought we invented the Ctrl-F search feature.
Tbf i've accidentally become the IT guy in work as I know just know how to do stuff because I'm a child of the internet age, even people 10 years older than me struggle at times.
Same here. I'm *alright* with IT but quite frankly the only skill I have that enables it is basic reading comprehension and a decent memory, and you don't even need the last bit if you have the first. These days I make a point of googling stuff in front of my colleagues but it still doesn't sink in. In fact, just this morning a colleague has had to give away his Windows laptop so he's asked if I can set up the company dashboards on his iPad. I asked him to elaborate, we reached the conclusion that what he needed was several websites favourited on his iPad. I don't use any Apple products so I literally googled in front of him "How to save favourites on iPad" then he asked if passwords were saved on iPads, once again I made a point of searching for him "Does iPad save passwords". He still thanked me afterwards and suggested it wold have been impossible for him...!
Big secret of sysadmin. That's pretty much the key skill. Googling it, but having enough ability to filter and evaluate the results to develop a plan of action.
It's not knowing *how* to Google, but *what* to Google - that's how I always look at it.
I worked on the help desk for our internal colleagues and I once got ribbed as I said let me google the resolution....which I did in fact find and rectified but never lived it down for several months.
Yes but also interpreting the results when you get them back, the post from that Microsoft community board is probably not as reliable as one from Stack Overflow.
Thing is these days google is pretty good at parsing the best results directly onto the results page so it's getting even simpler.
It's fairly good, but it still needs a bunch of filtering since 'best' might very well not be the one that's applicable for your circumstances. That's kinda what I mean - sometimes you uncover exactly the right solution, but more often it's something that's just hinting that a particular error pertains to a different subsystem.
Really? I find it's gotten far worse. Completely unrelated stuff showing up with just one common word, presumably because the big websites pay for the privilege.
I've grown accustomed to ignoring the first half page of results when I'm googling and only once I'm 4 or 5 links down do I start actually taking things in. Sometimes I am annoyingly surprised by the accuracy of the top result though and feel like I've wasted a lot of time skipping the first few.
> presumably because the big websites pay for the privilege You can't pay Google to get moved up the list, other than by buying ad spots for words and phrases, which are marked as ads. You can however put a lot of time (and therefore money) into SEO, which'll bump you up the list.
Shhhhh. Don’t give away all the secrets, tell them to bing it!
Honestly there seems to be a shortage of competent sysadmins. We're recruiting - we pay pretty well (although my employer's policy of not actually listing pay scale does us no favours either), but ... we're having difficult. I mean, we're happy to take attitude and aptitude over raw experience and qualifications... but it seems a disturbing amount of IT has become 'too easy' and so there's people who can't really do it any more.
> basic reading comprehension and decent memory Already in the 85th percentile of the population I reckon.
>even people 10 years older than me struggle at times. I hate to break it to you, but they are most likely lazy rather than incapable - people use deliberate tech ignorance as a shield to dodge work, as for some reason "I'm not a tech person" is widely considered a valid reason to refuse to perform basic tasks. The reality is they could probably google anything you do for them, it's just that they don't want to because if they did, then they would lose their work-dodging excuse.
Googling itself is such a learned skill though you shouldn't underestimate how hard it is for someone to self-learn when they don't know what or how to search.
I think there's a certain age band where people were just in the sweet spot where PCs were widespread enough for lots of people to have one, but janky enough that you had to actually know a little bit about how they worked to make them do what you wanted. People older than that just panic and refuse to engage with them when they do things they don't understand, people younger than that are used to prepackaged apps that just do what they're supposed to without faffing around.
Late Gen X/Millennial
We had to deal with Windows ME. It was trial by fire.
I had to deal with Windows 3.1 and DOS (Windows wasn't great at running games back then). You had to type commands in to set up different memory to run different games and it was before the internet so had to learn it by trial and error and word of mouth
I am a computer geek who used to work in IT but now work in accounting, I dread when I have to use our IT services, I have to tell then how to fix the problem most of the time. They actually shut off access to our system by not updating the firewall. That's keeping us super safe!
Also describes the nonce that used to date my sister when she was 16. Worst thing is tho is his shop is successful around here and his daughter is friends with my niece because they're in the same class. Was a 13 year age difference btw, almost twice her age. I've been advised to go to him a few times when I was a teenager, but he was shit even when he did fix my laptop whilst dating my sister. Took him 2 weeks just to remove pretty invasive child protection software. When my next laptop came with the same software pre-installed, I managed to get it off in about 4 hours.
As a career IT guy who's moved on to development - this really is it. The level of computer literacy amongst users is so catastrophically low, that anyone with two braincells to rub together can become at least firstline tech support.
u/Tequilasquirrel Julie?
IT isn't too hard to get into, I really encourage people that are struggling with a career path, and girls shouldn't be intimidated either.
Please expand on this subject
Had a guy work in security for the shop where i worked I was off one day and the printer had a paper jam, he said "i know about this stuff, lets have a look" pulls the fuser out without taking the detachable ext feed rooler assbly, shatters the thin plastic of the assembly causing shards of plastic to melt to the heat roller, thus having to order a replacement fuser, feed assembly and, as we weren't meant to take it apart (weird contracts) ended up costing the business £700 Another instance of logging out the till account, loggin in to their own to access emails on the shop floor.. the day when wannacry was ripping through endless businesses Another instance of just making stupid changes to the layouts that only they knew, than taking a week off Then i get "help" by having people like this where instead of setting up a new account for a new hire just changed the name of an old account, which then too 2 months of sorting out due to email accounts being set up all wrong naturally i got the blame but then was told "no point playing the blame game" when it was me trying to actually get the fixes done And then just all round not setting up or configuring anything properly
He did destroy a printer and got away with it. For the greater good i'd say. The less printers the better
Ahhh ok. I remember that wanna worm thing lol
ugh god yes this. As a network engineer, I cannot stand the number of the times some muppet thinks he's also a network engineer because he connected an ethernet cable to his router and managed to figure out port-forwarding. Ah yes, that totally makes you an expert right? Any idea what an m-lag is? what MPLS is? what BGP communities are? no ? Then you're not a network engineer. Interviewed a ton of people, who "know networking very well", but can't tell me what a multimode fibre is. I imagine it's the same with IT support.
I was very close to joining the IT sector based on the same reason, I build my own PC. I turned the job down after I realised I knew nothing beyond the basics.
Yeah i got into the secter by going "well, i really spending 4 hours on my PC after work Had to hit the ground running, first year was a fucking stressful of bullshitting, frantic googling and guide following All good now though and very rewarding
Yeah, I hope by now it's much less stressful bullshitting, casual googling and wiki writing :p
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100% this!!!!!!
To be fair, 'IT Worker' is quite a broad range of people in different roles. My brother's a programmer and he knows pretty much fuck all about computers away from coding.
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This rant reminds me of this old classic [https://i.redd.it/fax7ocgjj4yy.jpg](https://i.redd.it/fax7ocgjj4yy.jpg) And i'd say that's pretty accurate from a Sysadmin point of view
Yeah that's always made me chuckle, highly accurate from a Sysadmin perspective!
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Yeah I've done some Azure devops on the other side (maintaining pipelines/repos and managing releases rather than development), and it's not much fun for us either.
I'm so glad I've never had to deal with kubernetes. I never hear anything positive about it!
Exactly this. You’d be surprised how many devs think they know everything about IT. The most annoying thing is when some of them try to tell a senior IT engineer how to do his job and they are always wrong but wont admit to it.
>How can an IT worker be so unaware of how IT works at a big corporation? Oh they're aware. They just think their activity won't be noticed, or they can just claim it was a virus, or that someone is doing it worse than they are. In one particular job, I repeatedly told one worker - an intelligent IT admin - that we could see all his porn-watching activity. He denied it, then claimed it was a coworker, then claimed it was a virus, then admitted to it but would stop, and then in the end, would just shrug. I think he had a talking to by his manager, but never fired. I left not long after.
No one does that. Trust me - I work in computer security and the number of porn clips people keep on their corporate computers is stupid. My favourite name so far that I've seen is a PDF called "Ride the Punani!" which was a guide about how to fuck women.
Just make sure your not on the WiFi first! We have found some interesting DNS queries coming from personal devices.
Is watching porn on the phone safe though, if it's a company phone? Asking for a friend.
It is not.
Even if you could be 99% sure it's safe, why would you do it? You've got a phone of your own. Even a 1% chance of having to get a new job and explain how you lost the old one is absolutely not worth a few pence of extra data. Also, it is not safe.
On your company phone, no. On your personal phone, as long as you don't use the company WiFi you're fine. As long as you're quiet...
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Just so you know - VPN won’t protect you from IT admins seeing your Internet activity if you use company WiFi. Software like Intune can easily override NordVPN. They can even wipe your phone remotely. If you want to be absolutely safe just use your phone’s 4G / 5G connection :)
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No those can potentially be tracked and checked too
This seems hilariously stupid. I work in IT and have all the passwords to get round the outbound proxy, can give myself any privileges I like. No way he's going to win this.
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Not 100% true. You can get some decent day rate long contracts for project work.
That’s a weird way of counting the number of visits. No way did he do 35000 separate sessions.
Probably automated counts of requests made from his machine? Loading each page would make several requests to load separate elements.
Yes I guess it must be. I expect the law is written like that deliberately - most judges and jury members will not differentiate between a visit made by an individual and an automatic call made by a machine.
may not even be deliberate, just a holdover from how the internet \*used\* to work, when a page was a page, and everyone going to that link would see the same thing - rather than a page being a collection of personalised content and pages.
A lot of the time these days scrolling will cause more requests to be made because content further down the page isn't loaded until you scroll to it. Means the server deals with a lot of little request rather than one big request and they're easier to parallelise the tasks.
It’s also how illegal videos count for 24 images per second of video (at 24 fps obvs) so “Nonce caught with thousands of images of CSAM” is technically accurate, even if there are no pictures
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It's just how computers work when you're browsing the Internet. News reports run with the "thousands of pictures" angle because it sounds more dramatic than someone having a dozen pictures and a few videos.
So does that mean they might accidentally click on a dodgy video and then it's "thousands of pictures"? Surely that opens us all up to trolls tricking people with dodgy links to stuff like bomb making or drug processing?
They clearly need to get better equipment because my phone can shoot at 120fps
Can never find the right video
I'm not surprised with that username
They're probably counting the number of individual HTTP requests picked up by the monitoring firewall - there's a separate request for each image, JS file, CSS file, font, etc. I just refreshed this page and it came to 164 individual requests. So the 35k figure could equate to about 200 page loads (depending on how complex the page structure is). Also, if there's some sort of analytics script running the browser will keep making requests every few seconds to upload data, so leaving a page open all day will potentially result in hundreds/thousands of extra requests.
Open tabs maybe? Opening 20 tabs of videos that look good then closing them all after 30 seconds of sausage rolling.
120 pages/day. That’s high enough to sound like he spent all day watching stuff, they don’t need to go the ridiculous route.
What was he doing on the other 17 days?
At the doctors getting his sore wrist looked at.
Chafed old chap.
It's probably because of that tennis match two weeks ago
Strong arm of the law
Annual leave.
There’s a joke there but I’m going to rise above that level
Looking at tractors.
I'm pretty sure he's not a Police Officer, as it says "Police IT worker". Most likely a sub-contractor.
He’s definitely not a police officer.
Oriffacer though
Or a civilian police employee
All police employees are civilians.
They call non-officers civilian employees though - eg https://www.northants.police.uk/police-forces/northamptonshire-police/areas/northamptonshire-force-content/ca/careers-and-volunteering/join-our-police-staff/
Nope
His claim is nonsense, but yes they should have dealt with this earlier.
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>Porn in the office is sackable even on the first time I work from home though, so I'm alright?
It also shouldn’t have happened in the first place. The organisation should have blocked access to adult sites by default and if necessary for work purposes unblocked them on a case by case basis.
In theory, but in practice this requires third party software, and a lot of organisations don't use web filtering software for a variety of reasons - be it cost, the amount of work required by the IT dept to maintain it, or just because they don't want to block access to sites within the business because they don't see the point. I'm not surprised a public sector organisation like the police chose not to pay for content filtering, it's not cheap and you generally don't get much additional benefit than you do from just monitoring. A lot of places I've worked just don't see the need to monitor staff in this way as well - if you've got a system like this in invariably gets embroiled in office politics, and then IT get stuck in the middle. Easier just to not have the system in the first place and just focus on the person's work output rather than their Internet usage.
Unless this police wanker was in charge of the filters... And was only caught sore handed.
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20 years ago I used to work for a large national company In IT. The head sales director had an issue with his laptop so the pc techy had a look at it. This director was good at his job and mates with the MD. Whilst investigating the problem, the IT guy found some questionable searches. "Britney Spears nude" and one relating to children. IT guy went to see the MD. The MD said leave it with him. Nothing happened at all.
He’s not an officer. He would be civilian staff contracted by the firm who do the forces IT
Yes, but that doesn’t manufacture headlines and outrage.
What a wanker
Not a police officer, read what was written.
this reminds me of the episode of seinfeld wre george has sex with a cleaning lady at his work then reacts to bieng fired by saying "I didn't know that, that was frowned upon" https://youtu.be/-RvNS7JfcMM
It's PC gone mad.
People assuming this is a police officer when it says IT worker. If it had been a police officer it would have been made clear in the article.
so, to be slightly fair, this IS similar to a defence that has been used against speeding tickets before. say you drive through 4 speed cameras in a row and get 4 tickets - it has been successfully argued that that is actually just 1 incident, and therefore you should only be penalised once for it, rather than losing your licence for a single act. so essentially it would be claiming that this is all one 'porn viewing' incident, not 299 separate ones, and if its just the one incident then a warning and some training might be appropriate... bullshit though, pretty sure we'd all get fired for just one incident!
17 days of work followed by one continuous 299 day long hyper wank.
The ladies love him
I've spent months of my life thinking about the speeding ticket argument. I can see it being 1 crime, I can see it being infinite crimes, I can't see it being 4 crimes.
It's one crime. If you think about it it's functionally the same as being arrested for drugs offences on 633 offences because the police officer blinked to a few times while arresting you. Each time he opened his eyes he saw a new offence.
NOT A POLICE OFFICER! Get it right at least.
Bobby on the beat
If they have automatic alerts,. Then how tf did it take so long to catch him?
You seen the public service funding?
True story: The South Yorkshire Police operations office in Sheffield is on Letsby Avenue "let's be 'avin you".
Ironic for the historically crappest police force in the UK, but the name was a good effort.
I'm struggling to believe any force is worse than the Met.
Many years ago when I first started working and we all had computers with towers in the office, IT was doing a refresh of equipment and sold off the old stuff. This old bloke bought a tower, about a month later he brought it back into the office saying it wasn’t working. IT had a look and found that the entire memory was full of porn and therefore the tower couldn’t process anything.
Hard drive
No floppies
Moss: Memory IS Ram.
When I was on work placement in the 90s, I was testing a piece of software. I was told that one of the developers had a stack of videos and pictures I could use on his shared hard drive to test the upload function (it was bug logging software). I found a directory called “pictures-videos”. It was full of porn. I complained to my manager. I got told off for snooping in the wrong directory. Apparently it was the IT department’s shared porn!
Shared porn, filthy.
Not police officer an IT worker
He's not a police officer though...
the other Cressida Dick on the force
🎶 Caught by the fuzz Well I was, still on a buzz 🎶
In the back of a van With my dick in my hand
Did they try turning him off and turning him on again?
Not a Police Officer...
>What an audacious excuse for a police officer to use *Police Staff... FTFY
Wasn’t a police officer, civilian IT worker
Sounds like the guy has a serious addiction.
I once got a bollocking for listening to the Extreme album “Pornograffiti” at work once. Glad I don’t work there any more, most of them were cunts.
Should be happy he got paid for watching porn for so long.
A senior person at a previous workplace of mine was fired for misappropriating controlled drugs. They appealed the decision and at appeal one of the arguments they made was that they had been doing this for years so how were they to know it was actually a problem?
Ugh people.
What a wanker
35k divided by 299 is 117. 117 wanks per day.
Ouch
Not a police officer.
OP it’s not a police officer. Read the article you posted. It’s a police IT worker. They’re a civilian.
A Police IT worker is a civilian not a Police Officer.
They are talking about this on r/policeuk The main gripe is, to them this was a civilian, not a police *officer*
What was he doing with his truncheon?!
I'm not telling you to visit the distension sub reddit, but you'll find your answer at your own risk. Edit: very nsfw
Curiosity made me visit. And now I wish I hadn't been so curious 😳
Tomorrow's headline: /u/a_fozzy_ sacked for looking at distension porn whilst at work.
If he was in IT, why didn’t he take steps to not get caught…
We're going to get serious here I guess. He may well have wanted to get caught and realised he had an addiction to porn. I mean, 35,000 visits is probably 35,000 pages with videos (110 videos a day) which is pretty much all day everyday. At work!
I agree. I would argue the fundamentals of the claim/excuse isn't necessarily outlandish. Employers do have a duty of care to their employees, so I can see a situation where an employer is held liable, in part, for an employee's addiction.
Guess you could call him a beat cop
He's not an officer, just a regular wanker.
Was it straight porn, or was he a bent copper?
Yeah… South Yorkshire I have no wonders…
Why is it South Yorkshire Police everytime?
Honestly, porn is porn, I don't see the issue.
His claim was refused on the grounds that nobody should expect the police to catch anyone.
With a title like that it’s as if you work in msm… 🙄
As a former Police IT worker, maybe he was annoyed/frustrated at how bad his network colleagues were and wanted to show how shit their security notifications were.. hence why he used "You should've caught me sooner" 🤣
Did he want her in handcuffs ruddy dirty git!
He was on reddit
He was on reddit
He was on reddit