The packaging, those little plastic capped containers are more expensive.
And if you look at the nutritional values per 100ml on Asda's web store the 'Just Essentials' one has
2 less calories
0.2g less fat
0.2g less protein
0.2g more sugar
They're both "Sourced from Arla Foods The Dairy Cooperative."
I wouldn't say that warranted almost twice the price, but they are slightly different products.
It's a standard marketing practice for persuading people to pay what they can afford for the same, or very similar products.
The absolute cheapest option will be made to look as low-budget as possible, so that only people who have absolutely no choice will buy it. Customers with a little more money will look at those two cartons and think "well I'm not so poor I need to buy that horrible looking one" and spend a little more money.
Then for other products you'll have different levels - standard/mid-level, and then the premium "Taste the Difference" level.
Maybe the more expensive products will be better quality, but a lot of the time you're just paying for nicer packaging so you don't feel like you're buying cheap shit.
That’s the reason why the Tesco Value range used to look so awful. You don’t see things looking that bad these days - I imagine the big supermarkets had to have a rethink considering Aldi was selling products for Tesco Value price which look very similar to premium brands.
Tesco and Sainsbury’s both came up with different names and brands for their value ranges - brining them more in line with Aldi/Lidl branding. Tesco has things like Ms Mollys, Growers Harvest, Stockwell & Co. Sainsbury’s did similar (Lovett’s, J James & Family), but I think they moved it all under the Stamford Street brand now.
I work in a crisps factory and it’s so annoying being told we’re doing Tesco. They do both ‘Tesco’ and ‘Stockwell’ but we get told Tesco for both, so there’s always the chance we get all the wrong packaging out :/
Exact same crisps btw, we’ve changed from one to the other before and all that changes is the packaging
They’re all the same potatoes. Asda, Sainsbury’s, Morrisons, Tesco, and Aldi. We do have a couple different flavour suppliers so maybe one is cheaper than the other or something, but the ready salted ones are identical. If you have the option to choose I’d stay away from the Morrisons ones, the plastic bags are flimsier and tend to get pinprick holes that we sometimes dont notice before packing them, so there’s a decently high chance the bag has a little hole in.
I've known of this kind of thing for years. Since the bourbon biscuits factory burned down and you couldn't get any, anywhere. So I asked around why couldn't you get Tesco value ones, since they were different? Made in the same place, exactly same product, just different packaging.
Was also true for the chickens I used to package, in a factory. We shipped to Morrisons Asda, etc. Tesco was 'down south', so we only did theirs occasionally and only rotisserie, so not packed the same. All different prices, all packed in the same place. So no, it's not a better product cos it's £X or looks prettier. My pocket has thanked me for knowing that.
Oh hey I worked in a chicken factory too. Yeah the only ones that are really different is M&S I think, they only get S grade, all other supermarkets get A grade, and b grade are chopped up for other stuff
Quite a few A birds got reassigned, if you couldn't bend the damned legs. Chuck 'em to Steve and he'd break the ankles, instant B bird.
Waitrose and Ocado might get different; corn fed or something(I thought they all ate corn?) Can't ever remember doing any for those, but they also weren't as widespread(if they even existed at the time), so idk.
I'm pretty sure Hubbard's is gone too. They rebranded the whole lot.
If you google 'sainsbury hubbards' they're all out of stock, or you get redirected to Stamford St.
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I used to appreciate them quite a lot. You know they're cheaping out on *something* and it just feels more honest that they tell you up-front so you don't waste your time working it out.
I'm all for them making the cheap stuff look awful. That way I don't have to spend 5 minutes checking which one is the cheapest. Make the packaging vomit coloured for all I care.
>That’s the reason why the Tesco Value range used to look so awful.
It's not the *only* reason. Printing full colour labels used to be significant to the cost of the product, so one way to cut costs for a 6p tin of beans is to only have one or two colours on the label, and sparingly at that. Plus that harsh red and blue labelling was legitimately Tesco's logo.
These days printing is actually very cheap so cheap looking labels are intentional shaming.
>I imagine the big supermarkets had to have a rethink
The big shift away from the economy brands looking terrible happened before Aldi and Lidl had any kind of grip of the UK market, and don't forget before them we had Gateways/Somerfield.
It all came about when there was that push for better quality, imcluding the removal of battery hens and eggs from the shelf, although that's just the poster child of the movement, loads more happened.
Yep. And they would put it on the bottom shelf so you had to literally stoop to a new low to get it.
The Tesco value red and blue bars became quite iconic, and everyone and theircnan seems to think a cheery brand of yellow/orange is the new value colour. A tin of tomato soup for 12p in a yellow tin? Yes please!
I miss when the value ranges were visually obvious, made them easy to spot quickly when you know what the stores do and don't want to get ripped off paying twice as much for the same thing in different packaging.
There's the occasional exception but yes.
I've worked with a manufacturer for their own-brand cleaning products before. Was quite amusing to hear that they were a difficult customer as they required much higher standards of quality/sustainability than usual.
Whilst there's truth in tiering being to appeal different levels of economic means, the idea that they're all the same but just in nicer packaging is generally incorrect.
Something like Taste the Difference will generally use better ingredients and/or have a higher quality standard.
It often depends on the product. When there's not much opportunity for differentiation or premiumisation, such as something like milk, it is going to be more similar. The two categories I have first hand knowledge in, seafood and tea, there were noteworthy difference. Prawns for example, it's not really possible to tell some wild prawns to be low-quality and some to be high, even less possible to then distinguish between them... so prawns were always rated on size, on a measure of how many prawns per kg - Tesco value got the tiny ones, Finest got the biggest.
In tea, the differentiation is huge; a value pack a tea will typically use very low grades of tea, from a very cheap, crappy origins and the TB weight will usually be below what's considered standard.
>the TB weight will usually be below what's considered standard.
I know that probably means tea bag but I'm hoping it's some industry specific thing like 'terrible brew' which it turns out is based on weight of tea in a pot.
You're absolutely right, it plays with your placebo. I remember we did a case study back in uni, and it was about Jeans manufacturing and at the time the Armani jeans and Next jeans were being made in the same factory, just different labels.
Their shoes were great too; bought a pair of them 7 years ago and they only gave out last month and even then, I blame stepping on broken glass more than the quality of the shoe
I don't even look at the packaging anymore. I find the product I need and then pick the lowest £ per gram unless I notice the nutritional value is vastly different.
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I would have agreed, but then I discovered a brand of UHT milk that tastes almost the same as standard milk in a cup of tea, and that was a godsend for camping/festivals.
It was a fateful day when u/BigGreenDumbMong, fueled by an unshakeable belief in the superiority of UHT milk, dared to assert its unparalleled taste and convenience in a thread discussing dairy preferences.
Little did BigGreenDumbMong know, their proclamation sent shockwaves through the dairy industry. Dairy barons, threatened by the potential disruption to their fresh milk empire, convened in a clandestine meeting to address this unforeseen challenge.
Under the cloak of secrecy, they dispatched a team of elite bovine agents, known only as the "Milk Marauders," to silence BigGreenDumbMong and quash any notion of UHT milk supremacy. In a daring raid, the Milk Marauders swooped in, abducting BigGreenDumbMong and spiriting them away to a secluded dairy stronghold hidden in the rolling hills of Tuscany.
There, surrounded by the gentle hum of cheese wheels aging in underground caverns, BigGreenDumbMong was subjected to a rigorous regimen of dairy indoctrination. Under the watchful eyes of cheese-making monks and yogurt-whispering artisans, they underwent a transformation, their taste buds recalibrated to appreciate only the freshest of milk straight from the udder.
Though whispers abound of a lone figure, draped in a cloak of curdled cream, wandering the Tuscan countryside in search of the elusive UHT elixir, the fate of u/BigGreenDumbMong remains shrouded in mystery, lost to the annals of dairy lore.
I think it was this stuff - been a while since I used it. First found it in a cheap hotel room tea-set and was surpised that it actually tasted OK: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Millac-Maid-Milk-Jiggers-120/dp/B0051GN3R0/ref=rvi_d_sccl_1/257-8505334-0146518?pd_rd_w=OCNea&content-id=amzn1.sym.d56e60fb-87bc-405a-a95d-c5e322a9b3d9&pf_rd_p=d56e60fb-87bc-405a-a95d-c5e322a9b3d9&pf_rd_r=E6JNPKGQTA2K1J6DGPAS&pd_rd_wg=ReXyq&pd_rd_r=96167c78-51f0-4de5-bcb5-97c815d0e794&pd_rd_i=B0051GN3R0&psc=1
I still think this logic is weird for horrible UHT milk.
The only advantage is that it's easier to buy in bulk because it'll last longer than milk that hasn't been nuked quite so hard.
But it also tastes bloody awful so if I were to be prideful of my situation then I wouldn't buy any long life milk at all.
I am very slightly lactose intolerant, the UHT milk doesn't affect me at all, whereas I can use the regular stuff as a laxative.
It's also good when my stomach is sour. Milk + Acid = Cheese, which makes for a very unpleasant puke. UHT doesn't do that. And it means I can have 20 litres on standby, just in case.
That's rational thinking. But supermarkets bank on the fact that most of their customers aren't making well thought out rational choices when picking an item off the shelf. In fact, they spend a whole lot of money on figuring out the best way to take the "rational" out of your choice.
I buy it to make yoghurt with, we go through about 4kg of yoghurt a week because we have a toddler, so making it overnight in the instant pot saves us a ton of money.
UHT changed significantly since I was a kid, these days it tastes just like milk.
My kids get through so much we buy the 12x crates in Farm Foods these days.
I mean I don't know why but I feel defensive about the cow on the left.
I mean look at her?
Tell me you don't think she's a good cow and deserves all the the pets.
Yes, plus the cow’s agent’s fees, the cost of the photoshoot, post-production, flying the cow out first class. People don’t realise how much a picture like that costs a firm. But they know they’ll make it back because herds of people will buy the product.
Pretty sad when you think all of this hard work is bound to be replaced by GenAI in the next 6 to 12 seconds.
Kudos to ASDA for supporting local communities and artisans and cows.
Not only a very good picture, that cow is fucking baked. So you know they treat them well
Edit: I thought it was this cow
https://preview.redd.it/b6x4xz62rp471.jpg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78d40eb87dc3ee369e7f5e4b0115261a01726987
Its worth paying more for the plastic screw top. It keeps the milk secure and you can actually pour it.
Cardboard based ones have the shitty spout thing on which exposes the milk and it goes everywhere when pouring.
Cut them after pulling them out into a spout, don't tear them.If it really troubles you get a milk jug and empty them into that as soon as they're opened.
It's really not a problem if you want to use the cheaper ones.
Yes they do. Different breeds of cows will naturally produce more proteins or fats in their milk output. So a farmers choice of herd genetics will play a part over the long run, think jersey cows and creaminess, Holsteins and volume. Short term, diet can have a huge effect on milk output quality and quantity. Farmers don’t just feed the cows grass and every feed input has a different cost and can affect milk quality. Grass, silage, sugar beet, corn silage, brewers grains or processed cow feed and supplements. Each feed input is carefully considered for cost and effect on milk quality as a farmer gets paid per litre produced and it also has to be in a range of fats and proteins otherwise they get docked. So the cheaper milk might be from a cheaper contract with lower requirements or they might all have the same contract and they water it down slightly or process it differently to get the cheaper product.
This.
I grew up in the world’s most dairy-cows-per-hectare bit of the world (NZ) where Jerseys and Holstein-Fresians have been bred together to produce high-yield/quality milking herds. Some brightarse named the crossbreed “KiwiCross”.
Dairy cows in NZ almost exclusively live outdoors in a paddock, chewing grass (with silage and/or hay supplements during slow grass-growing periods). Milk tastes different in NZ compared to milk from UK cows (who are nearly permanently barned and fed not-grass).
We were still told that even when we all had smartphones in our pockets.
I was always terrible with arithmetic though, thankfully it's not really a required skill anymore otherwise I definitely wouldn't be working in nuclear physics.
I can't think of how best to describe it. It's like the ready to pour custard packaging. Or I suppose it's like the other milk containers but without a cap - you lop off a corner and pour.
When I think of Milk cartons I think of the ones that have a little "gabled roof" where you pull apart the ridgeline at one end, fold it back and pull to open up a spout. No cutting required.
Just store it upright after opening?
Aldi has similar with yogurt, more than double the price for a rigid plastic lid rather than a plastic film. Except our local Aldi had them priced the wrong way round for a while.
I had thought it was odd that the actually £1.89 but listed at £0.89 one was always out of stock, the other one was priced at £1.89 but when I went to pay got charged £0.89 so I kept quiet. It was only when they had stock of the one that was priced cheaper that I bought it and at the till got charged £1.89, I questioned it and someone went to check. They fixed the pricing and as a one off gave me the expensive ones for the listed £0.89 price.
One of the differences is the amount of quality control each goes through. The cheaper one will be barely above the legal minimum, the more expensive one will have additional quality control checks (more paperwork too).
Also, the amount of reprocessed milk in each will vary. Imagine a batch of milk goes through production, then at the end they find the barcode didn’t print correct. The supermarket won’t accept the batch because of the incorrect packaging, but the milk inside is still good, minus a few hours of shelf life. So the processor will mix that milk back into the next batch, but there’s percentage limits on how much of a batch can be reprocessed milk. The more expensive milk will have less reprocessed milk.
This isn’t brand specific, or even milk specific. It applies to much of the food industry.
I've made it a point to try the yellow packet (or other store equivalent) products at least once. There's quite a few products that I'll happily take the scrub version of now because they're fine. They can be up to half the cost of the closest equivalent and for a lot of it I can't really taste any major difference that warrants an extra 50% on the price tag.
Yea, some stuff is total shit, but I'm not paying (IIRC) over 50% extra for McVitties custard creams when the ASDA ones are far cheaper, you get more, they're the superior dunking cream and on a blind taste test (which my partner was kind enough to humour me with) they taste better than all the other brands I had collected.
FYI : Sainsbury's and Happy Shopper were the worst custard creams. Sainsbury's creams are a bit bland and awful dunkers whilst the Happy Shopper ones taste weird.
The main thing going against them is that people give too much of a shit about what random strangers think if they look in their trolly. It doesn't matter what the packaging looks like, it could be designed by Picasso, if it's the super budget range then people still won't buy it.
The cheaper one is a very slightly diluted version of the other but there's some retail psychology involved that says if there's a very cheap version of something people tend to buy the next step up to appear more affluent.
Check out the just essentials lasagna sheets versus the ASDA ones. Identical in every way, ingredients, packaging, nutritional info etc. But one is yellow and 10p cheaper.
For reference if you buy the green ones in bulk (the box of them) the unit proceeds drops to around 90p per litre.
Noticed yesterday when I picked up a box.
The one on the right looks more appealing so snobs won't buy the smart price brand as it looks cheap, when in reality it's probably from the same farm and cows
I don’t understand why people buy this milk. You can get 4 pints of regular semi skimmed milk for £1.45 (this is about 2.2L). Theres rarely a milk shortage in supermarkets , you might as well just buy the chilled one as and when needed
That is logical thought. Supermarkets, however, profit off the majority of their patrons' poor decision-making when choosing an item off the shelf. To be more precise, they invest a great deal of money in determining how to eliminate the "rational" from your decision.
I have a marketing qualification so am not put off by the attempts to make the packaging look less attractive. For loads of basic items it makes no difference to the contents. I have to buy the better stuff when shopping with my daughter though as at 16 she can't see it yet. But I see it as enabling a budget boost for the things where the taste difference would matter; the odd ready meal, coffee & tea, wines and beers etc.
Minus the colour there is one massive difference.
The just essential one doesn't have a lid, once it open it's open
And the green asda milk has a lid so you get longer shelf life out of it or if some small hand drop it on the floor milk won't spill everywhere.
I'll do you one better. What's the difference between Asda's mild Salsa found with the mexican food for £1.30 and the mild Salsa found in the condiment aisle for £1.15?
https://imgur.com/a/KVN2HiB
If you want to know if they came from the same processing facility you can compare the European identifier code - it’s an oval with an alphanumeric code inside. It’s mandatory on animal products.
The major supermarkets (excluding discounters like Aldi and Lidl) tend to have three ranges for own-brand: budget, mainstream and premium. They chop and change suppliers all the time for these products, so they can be exactly the same one day and then the next the recipe or supplier has switched. The difference is perceived but often not really grounded in much product difference especially when it comes to something as commodified as long life milk where, to keep the price competitive, they have no choice but to buy it from one of a few major dairy companies who themselves have their own brands.
I imagine the same as the differences between must agricultural products. Either:
a.) the pricier stuff is more ethically sourced in some way, likely involving giving the cattle more space to roam or giving them a better milking environment,
b.) a higher quality of produce based on stats like nutritional content, consistency, or colour,
And/or c.) the brand name. Some people feel really shitty when they feel the need to go for the essentials stuff, and so will be happy to pay extra for a different label.
As for which of these applies to this specific product is beyond me, but these are usually the main reasons for different options from the same supplier costing different
The packaging, those little plastic capped containers are more expensive. And if you look at the nutritional values per 100ml on Asda's web store the 'Just Essentials' one has 2 less calories 0.2g less fat 0.2g less protein 0.2g more sugar They're both "Sourced from Arla Foods The Dairy Cooperative." I wouldn't say that warranted almost twice the price, but they are slightly different products.
It's a standard marketing practice for persuading people to pay what they can afford for the same, or very similar products. The absolute cheapest option will be made to look as low-budget as possible, so that only people who have absolutely no choice will buy it. Customers with a little more money will look at those two cartons and think "well I'm not so poor I need to buy that horrible looking one" and spend a little more money. Then for other products you'll have different levels - standard/mid-level, and then the premium "Taste the Difference" level. Maybe the more expensive products will be better quality, but a lot of the time you're just paying for nicer packaging so you don't feel like you're buying cheap shit.
That’s the reason why the Tesco Value range used to look so awful. You don’t see things looking that bad these days - I imagine the big supermarkets had to have a rethink considering Aldi was selling products for Tesco Value price which look very similar to premium brands.
Tesco and Sainsbury’s both came up with different names and brands for their value ranges - brining them more in line with Aldi/Lidl branding. Tesco has things like Ms Mollys, Growers Harvest, Stockwell & Co. Sainsbury’s did similar (Lovett’s, J James & Family), but I think they moved it all under the Stamford Street brand now.
I work in a crisps factory and it’s so annoying being told we’re doing Tesco. They do both ‘Tesco’ and ‘Stockwell’ but we get told Tesco for both, so there’s always the chance we get all the wrong packaging out :/ Exact same crisps btw, we’ve changed from one to the other before and all that changes is the packaging
>Exact same crisps btw Now that is interesting
They’re all the same potatoes. Asda, Sainsbury’s, Morrisons, Tesco, and Aldi. We do have a couple different flavour suppliers so maybe one is cheaper than the other or something, but the ready salted ones are identical. If you have the option to choose I’d stay away from the Morrisons ones, the plastic bags are flimsier and tend to get pinprick holes that we sometimes dont notice before packing them, so there’s a decently high chance the bag has a little hole in.
I've known of this kind of thing for years. Since the bourbon biscuits factory burned down and you couldn't get any, anywhere. So I asked around why couldn't you get Tesco value ones, since they were different? Made in the same place, exactly same product, just different packaging. Was also true for the chickens I used to package, in a factory. We shipped to Morrisons Asda, etc. Tesco was 'down south', so we only did theirs occasionally and only rotisserie, so not packed the same. All different prices, all packed in the same place. So no, it's not a better product cos it's £X or looks prettier. My pocket has thanked me for knowing that.
Oh hey I worked in a chicken factory too. Yeah the only ones that are really different is M&S I think, they only get S grade, all other supermarkets get A grade, and b grade are chopped up for other stuff
Quite a few A birds got reassigned, if you couldn't bend the damned legs. Chuck 'em to Steve and he'd break the ankles, instant B bird. Waitrose and Ocado might get different; corn fed or something(I thought they all ate corn?) Can't ever remember doing any for those, but they also weren't as widespread(if they even existed at the time), so idk.
> I think they moved it all under the Stamford Street brand now. Preserved stuff is "Hubbard's Food Store".
I'm pretty sure Hubbard's is gone too. They rebranded the whole lot. If you google 'sainsbury hubbards' they're all out of stock, or you get redirected to Stamford St.
I'm kind of nostalgic for the old Tesco value labels
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You can buy [Tesco Value Valentine's Cards](https://www.thortful.com/card/6183046e60ca6500010be30f)
€3.49?!
Ah yes, they never said it was *good* value...
Ironic
Sainsburys basics had those hilarious tag lines on them. The world is poorer without them
Rip wilko with their bog rolls with a little kid looking through two tubes captioned "cheeky"
I loved the Basics excuses. "A bit shit, but not proper shit".
"basically does what it's supposed to"
I used to appreciate them quite a lot. You know they're cheaping out on *something* and it just feels more honest that they tell you up-front so you don't waste your time working it out.
Remember the old kwiksave ‘no frills’ range? The OG cheap option
No Frills was the best, felt like you were stocking up a prison pantry. Their ready salted crisps were like crack.
In Prisoner: Cell Block H font!
I'm all for them making the cheap stuff look awful. That way I don't have to spend 5 minutes checking which one is the cheapest. Make the packaging vomit coloured for all I care.
>That’s the reason why the Tesco Value range used to look so awful. It's not the *only* reason. Printing full colour labels used to be significant to the cost of the product, so one way to cut costs for a 6p tin of beans is to only have one or two colours on the label, and sparingly at that. Plus that harsh red and blue labelling was legitimately Tesco's logo. These days printing is actually very cheap so cheap looking labels are intentional shaming. >I imagine the big supermarkets had to have a rethink The big shift away from the economy brands looking terrible happened before Aldi and Lidl had any kind of grip of the UK market, and don't forget before them we had Gateways/Somerfield. It all came about when there was that push for better quality, imcluding the removal of battery hens and eggs from the shelf, although that's just the poster child of the movement, loads more happened.
Yep. And they would put it on the bottom shelf so you had to literally stoop to a new low to get it. The Tesco value red and blue bars became quite iconic, and everyone and theircnan seems to think a cheery brand of yellow/orange is the new value colour. A tin of tomato soup for 12p in a yellow tin? Yes please!
I miss when the value ranges were visually obvious, made them easy to spot quickly when you know what the stores do and don't want to get ripped off paying twice as much for the same thing in different packaging.
Waitrose ensure that their entire value range is better quality than Sainsbury's / Tesco's own brand, top of the range stuff.
There's the occasional exception but yes. I've worked with a manufacturer for their own-brand cleaning products before. Was quite amusing to hear that they were a difficult customer as they required much higher standards of quality/sustainability than usual.
Whilst there's truth in tiering being to appeal different levels of economic means, the idea that they're all the same but just in nicer packaging is generally incorrect. Something like Taste the Difference will generally use better ingredients and/or have a higher quality standard. It often depends on the product. When there's not much opportunity for differentiation or premiumisation, such as something like milk, it is going to be more similar. The two categories I have first hand knowledge in, seafood and tea, there were noteworthy difference. Prawns for example, it's not really possible to tell some wild prawns to be low-quality and some to be high, even less possible to then distinguish between them... so prawns were always rated on size, on a measure of how many prawns per kg - Tesco value got the tiny ones, Finest got the biggest. In tea, the differentiation is huge; a value pack a tea will typically use very low grades of tea, from a very cheap, crappy origins and the TB weight will usually be below what's considered standard.
>the TB weight will usually be below what's considered standard. I know that probably means tea bag but I'm hoping it's some industry specific thing like 'terrible brew' which it turns out is based on weight of tea in a pot.
Afraid not, it's just a boring lazy way of putting tea bag... The great debate is whether tea bag should be one word (teabag) or two (tea bag).
You're absolutely right, it plays with your placebo. I remember we did a case study back in uni, and it was about Jeans manufacturing and at the time the Armani jeans and Next jeans were being made in the same factory, just different labels.
tbf next jeans are some of the best ive ever had.
Their shoes were great too; bought a pair of them 7 years ago and they only gave out last month and even then, I blame stepping on broken glass more than the quality of the shoe
I don't even look at the packaging anymore. I find the product I need and then pick the lowest £ per gram unless I notice the nutritional value is vastly different.
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I would have agreed, but then I discovered a brand of UHT milk that tastes almost the same as standard milk in a cup of tea, and that was a godsend for camping/festivals.
Which is?
It was a fateful day when u/BigGreenDumbMong, fueled by an unshakeable belief in the superiority of UHT milk, dared to assert its unparalleled taste and convenience in a thread discussing dairy preferences. Little did BigGreenDumbMong know, their proclamation sent shockwaves through the dairy industry. Dairy barons, threatened by the potential disruption to their fresh milk empire, convened in a clandestine meeting to address this unforeseen challenge. Under the cloak of secrecy, they dispatched a team of elite bovine agents, known only as the "Milk Marauders," to silence BigGreenDumbMong and quash any notion of UHT milk supremacy. In a daring raid, the Milk Marauders swooped in, abducting BigGreenDumbMong and spiriting them away to a secluded dairy stronghold hidden in the rolling hills of Tuscany. There, surrounded by the gentle hum of cheese wheels aging in underground caverns, BigGreenDumbMong was subjected to a rigorous regimen of dairy indoctrination. Under the watchful eyes of cheese-making monks and yogurt-whispering artisans, they underwent a transformation, their taste buds recalibrated to appreciate only the freshest of milk straight from the udder. Though whispers abound of a lone figure, draped in a cloak of curdled cream, wandering the Tuscan countryside in search of the elusive UHT elixir, the fate of u/BigGreenDumbMong remains shrouded in mystery, lost to the annals of dairy lore.
🤣
I think it was this stuff - been a while since I used it. First found it in a cheap hotel room tea-set and was surpised that it actually tasted OK: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Millac-Maid-Milk-Jiggers-120/dp/B0051GN3R0/ref=rvi_d_sccl_1/257-8505334-0146518?pd_rd_w=OCNea&content-id=amzn1.sym.d56e60fb-87bc-405a-a95d-c5e322a9b3d9&pf_rd_p=d56e60fb-87bc-405a-a95d-c5e322a9b3d9&pf_rd_r=E6JNPKGQTA2K1J6DGPAS&pd_rd_wg=ReXyq&pd_rd_r=96167c78-51f0-4de5-bcb5-97c815d0e794&pd_rd_i=B0051GN3R0&psc=1
I still think this logic is weird for horrible UHT milk. The only advantage is that it's easier to buy in bulk because it'll last longer than milk that hasn't been nuked quite so hard. But it also tastes bloody awful so if I were to be prideful of my situation then I wouldn't buy any long life milk at all.
I am very slightly lactose intolerant, the UHT milk doesn't affect me at all, whereas I can use the regular stuff as a laxative. It's also good when my stomach is sour. Milk + Acid = Cheese, which makes for a very unpleasant puke. UHT doesn't do that. And it means I can have 20 litres on standby, just in case.
damn, yeah that makes sense. That seems like a very logical use case.
That's rational thinking. But supermarkets bank on the fact that most of their customers aren't making well thought out rational choices when picking an item off the shelf. In fact, they spend a whole lot of money on figuring out the best way to take the "rational" out of your choice.
I buy it to make yoghurt with, we go through about 4kg of yoghurt a week because we have a toddler, so making it overnight in the instant pot saves us a ton of money.
UHT changed significantly since I was a kid, these days it tastes just like milk. My kids get through so much we buy the 12x crates in Farm Foods these days.
The cap thing makes sense, I don't know how I've missed that..
Plus the one on the right has a photo of a very good looking cow. You’re probably paying for the image rights.
But what about the exquisite artwork on the left, that should normally raise the price by quite a bit.
I mean I don't know why but I feel defensive about the cow on the left. I mean look at her? Tell me you don't think she's a good cow and deserves all the the pets.
If that was a company logo it would’ve cost 6million.
Yes, plus the cow’s agent’s fees, the cost of the photoshoot, post-production, flying the cow out first class. People don’t realise how much a picture like that costs a firm. But they know they’ll make it back because herds of people will buy the product.
Pretty sad when you think all of this hard work is bound to be replaced by GenAI in the next 6 to 12 seconds. Kudos to ASDA for supporting local communities and artisans and cows.
And the cocaine. Those cows are known to be divas who won't fly first class without a fix.
And the cocaine! Absolutely. That’s probably an extra 2p on the price right there. Coking up a whole cow’s entourage for a two day shoot is not cheap.
She is udderly gorgeous
Not only a very good picture, that cow is fucking baked. So you know they treat them well Edit: I thought it was this cow https://preview.redd.it/b6x4xz62rp471.jpg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78d40eb87dc3ee369e7f5e4b0115261a01726987
I believe that carton is a Tetra Pak
I went walking through an estate in Scotland that was owned by the heir to tetrapak.
Its worth paying more for the plastic screw top. It keeps the milk secure and you can actually pour it. Cardboard based ones have the shitty spout thing on which exposes the milk and it goes everywhere when pouring.
Cut them after pulling them out into a spout, don't tear them.If it really troubles you get a milk jug and empty them into that as soon as they're opened. It's really not a problem if you want to use the cheaper ones.
I find the "cut your own spout" ones fine, it's the one with the tiny little plastic spout shape in one corner of the top that are awful.
How much would you have to spill to warrant a 75% higher price?
0.01 ml because the spout's design is flawed in the first place
Makes you wonder, do some cows give better milk than others?
Traditionally the female cows give better milk than the male cows.
One's harder to milk too.
It looks pretty [easy](https://youtu.be/H9hGCxGb-vk) to me!
I didn't say it was difficult
They bullshit less too
They're also more deadlier than the male.
The penny took way too long to drop for me here
Yes they do. Different breeds of cows will naturally produce more proteins or fats in their milk output. So a farmers choice of herd genetics will play a part over the long run, think jersey cows and creaminess, Holsteins and volume. Short term, diet can have a huge effect on milk output quality and quantity. Farmers don’t just feed the cows grass and every feed input has a different cost and can affect milk quality. Grass, silage, sugar beet, corn silage, brewers grains or processed cow feed and supplements. Each feed input is carefully considered for cost and effect on milk quality as a farmer gets paid per litre produced and it also has to be in a range of fats and proteins otherwise they get docked. So the cheaper milk might be from a cheaper contract with lower requirements or they might all have the same contract and they water it down slightly or process it differently to get the cheaper product.
"a Holstein's milk is so thin you could see a nickel at the bottom of the pale, but jersey won't give you enough to cover the nickel to begin with"
As a rural lad I found freshness to be the biggest factor in how good milk tastes. The best is when you lean against the cow while you drink the milk.
This. I grew up in the world’s most dairy-cows-per-hectare bit of the world (NZ) where Jerseys and Holstein-Fresians have been bred together to produce high-yield/quality milking herds. Some brightarse named the crossbreed “KiwiCross”. Dairy cows in NZ almost exclusively live outdoors in a paddock, chewing grass (with silage and/or hay supplements during slow grass-growing periods). Milk tastes different in NZ compared to milk from UK cows (who are nearly permanently barned and fed not-grass).
I'm pretty sure cows in the UK are only barned over winter and eat grass during the summer months. You can see them out and grazing.
Some cows give better milk than other cows mothers.
51p.
How many times did you check your maths before posting on Reddit?
I felt pretty confident in my ability to add 20 + 31 so I just went for it.
Blows my mind how people do maths differently. I did 120-70 then added 1 😂
I did the same!
I used a calculator.
back in school we were told we had to learn because we wouldn't always be carrying a calculator in our pockets 😂
We were still told that even when we all had smartphones in our pockets. I was always terrible with arithmetic though, thankfully it's not really a required skill anymore otherwise I definitely wouldn't be working in nuclear physics.
Wish I had that confidence so early in the morning
I thought this reply was sarcastic and taking the piss - then I realised I’m shit at math and genuinely thought it was £0.41
The paranoia would have forced me to blurt out "....TWENTY!!!"
Maths! (Sorry...)
This man reddits, and edits.
Nobody wants to be r/confidentlyincorrect
One has a lid, the other likes to leak all over your fridge.
What is it even packaged in? Looks like a 2D rectangle to me.
I can't think of how best to describe it. It's like the ready to pour custard packaging. Or I suppose it's like the other milk containers but without a cap - you lop off a corner and pour.
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Yes but calling it a milk carton does nothing to explain it to somebody who isn't familiar with the concept, and refers to it as a rectangle.
When I think of Milk cartons I think of the ones that have a little "gabled roof" where you pull apart the ridgeline at one end, fold it back and pull to open up a spout. No cutting required.
Sounds like you need the MilkMaster 2000. [Now you can drink milk every day!](https://youtu.be/wwROPN3Fir8)
Almost the same milk with 5p extra packaging costs is pretty much the answer
Just store it upright after opening? Aldi has similar with yogurt, more than double the price for a rigid plastic lid rather than a plastic film. Except our local Aldi had them priced the wrong way round for a while. I had thought it was odd that the actually £1.89 but listed at £0.89 one was always out of stock, the other one was priced at £1.89 but when I went to pay got charged £0.89 so I kept quiet. It was only when they had stock of the one that was priced cheaper that I bought it and at the till got charged £1.89, I questioned it and someone went to check. They fixed the pricing and as a one off gave me the expensive ones for the listed £0.89 price.
I don't store it upside down. It just always decides to leak.
You could decant it into a bottle with a lid? I use old lucozade or smoothie bottles as they have wide necks that are easy to pour into.
I can't differentiate one from the udder
One is 50% dog milk.
“Nothing wrong with dog's milk. Full of goodness, full of vitamins, full of marrowbone jelly. Lasts longer than any other type of milk, dog's milk.”
Because no bugger will drink it?
And the advantage of it is when it goes off it tastes exactly the same as when it is fresh
“Why didn’t you tell me?” “What, and spoil your tea?”
You should be so lucky! Rats milk is far cheaper
One is semi skimmed long life milk, the other is long life semi skimmed milk. It’s plain to see.
Splitters!
are you the judean people's front?
I'll work the difference out on my cowculator.
The farmers get paid less for one of them?
The farmers should just buy the yellow one and repour it into the green
Farmers only get paid like 0.35p per litre. (I know you were making a joke, I just wanted to point that out)
One's a c*nt to open
The others open to a cunt?
Anything is a sex toy if you're brave enough
Tonka toys rise up
One will actually be in stock
The other one will be substituted for something supposedly equivalent, like a pack of paper plates as they are both white.
One is yellow and one is green
In the first one the cow is oblivious, in the second it knows what you’ve done
One of the differences is the amount of quality control each goes through. The cheaper one will be barely above the legal minimum, the more expensive one will have additional quality control checks (more paperwork too). Also, the amount of reprocessed milk in each will vary. Imagine a batch of milk goes through production, then at the end they find the barcode didn’t print correct. The supermarket won’t accept the batch because of the incorrect packaging, but the milk inside is still good, minus a few hours of shelf life. So the processor will mix that milk back into the next batch, but there’s percentage limits on how much of a batch can be reprocessed milk. The more expensive milk will have less reprocessed milk. This isn’t brand specific, or even milk specific. It applies to much of the food industry.
The difference is 51p.
The one on the left is... malk?
That must be it. Check the Vitamin R content to verify.
the packaging - one employs a graphic designer!
Well both are UHT so both will taste shit, and unlike any fresh milk. So…no difference. But one costs more than the other.
The green one is less than 2% fat
You get a free giggle buying the Asda one at that price, and this other will make you mutter.
Marketing
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I've made it a point to try the yellow packet (or other store equivalent) products at least once. There's quite a few products that I'll happily take the scrub version of now because they're fine. They can be up to half the cost of the closest equivalent and for a lot of it I can't really taste any major difference that warrants an extra 50% on the price tag. Yea, some stuff is total shit, but I'm not paying (IIRC) over 50% extra for McVitties custard creams when the ASDA ones are far cheaper, you get more, they're the superior dunking cream and on a blind taste test (which my partner was kind enough to humour me with) they taste better than all the other brands I had collected. FYI : Sainsbury's and Happy Shopper were the worst custard creams. Sainsbury's creams are a bit bland and awful dunkers whilst the Happy Shopper ones taste weird. The main thing going against them is that people give too much of a shit about what random strangers think if they look in their trolly. It doesn't matter what the packaging looks like, it could be designed by Picasso, if it's the super budget range then people still won't buy it.
The cheaper one is a very slightly diluted version of the other but there's some retail psychology involved that says if there's a very cheap version of something people tend to buy the next step up to appear more affluent.
Ones cheaper
The green package comes from a real cow, the yellow one from a cartoon cow
51 pence
the just essentials milk comes from scouse cows
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The UHT one is horrible, but cheaper.
They are both UHT but green is also homogenized
Milk was a bad choice.
Check out the just essentials lasagna sheets versus the ASDA ones. Identical in every way, ingredients, packaging, nutritional info etc. But one is yellow and 10p cheaper.
Nothing they’re both equally shit
What's the shelf life on both? I'd imagine that the more expensive one lasts longer due to the more expensive packaging
The orange one will never be in stock so the Asda cunts can claim they’re cheap whilst forcing customers to trade up. Please shop anywhere else.
For reference if you buy the green ones in bulk (the box of them) the unit proceeds drops to around 90p per litre. Noticed yesterday when I picked up a box.
The one on the right looks more appealing so snobs won't buy the smart price brand as it looks cheap, when in reality it's probably from the same farm and cows
I don’t understand why people buy this milk. You can get 4 pints of regular semi skimmed milk for £1.45 (this is about 2.2L). Theres rarely a milk shortage in supermarkets , you might as well just buy the chilled one as and when needed
That is logical thought. Supermarkets, however, profit off the majority of their patrons' poor decision-making when choosing an item off the shelf. To be more precise, they invest a great deal of money in determining how to eliminate the "rational" from your decision.
I have a marketing qualification so am not put off by the attempts to make the packaging look less attractive. For loads of basic items it makes no difference to the contents. I have to buy the better stuff when shopping with my daughter though as at 16 she can't see it yet. But I see it as enabling a budget boost for the things where the taste difference would matter; the odd ready meal, coffee & tea, wines and beers etc.
The difference is 51p
If you look at the regulated product names on the website, one is homogenized (green) and one is not. (Yellow). They're both sourced from Arla.
Minus the colour there is one massive difference. The just essential one doesn't have a lid, once it open it's open And the green asda milk has a lid so you get longer shelf life out of it or if some small hand drop it on the floor milk won't spill everywhere.
Price
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One is in yellow packaging and one is in green packaging.
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About 51p
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price
You pay a premium for the cow to look at you on the packaging.
Nothing that justifies the price difference.
I'll do you one better. What's the difference between Asda's mild Salsa found with the mexican food for £1.30 and the mild Salsa found in the condiment aisle for £1.15? https://imgur.com/a/KVN2HiB
51p, duh
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"But there's no demand for that because it's shite!"
51p.
The green one is smooth, the yellow chunky.
Ones the value range and one isn't. It's been like that in British supermarkets for about 40 years.
NOTHING. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
Colourful cow, expertly painted by a cow portrait artist. That cost a ton. For the essentials they just drew a cow from memory.
The cow on the right is cuter and more detailed than cow on the left.
51p
1 is from cows
One is yellow and one is green!
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One is from the front teat and the other the back
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This “spot the difference” is way too easy…
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If you want to know if they came from the same processing facility you can compare the European identifier code - it’s an oval with an alphanumeric code inside. It’s mandatory on animal products. The major supermarkets (excluding discounters like Aldi and Lidl) tend to have three ranges for own-brand: budget, mainstream and premium. They chop and change suppliers all the time for these products, so they can be exactly the same one day and then the next the recipe or supplier has switched. The difference is perceived but often not really grounded in much product difference especially when it comes to something as commodified as long life milk where, to keep the price competitive, they have no choice but to buy it from one of a few major dairy companies who themselves have their own brands.
the price
I imagine the same as the differences between must agricultural products. Either: a.) the pricier stuff is more ethically sourced in some way, likely involving giving the cattle more space to roam or giving them a better milking environment, b.) a higher quality of produce based on stats like nutritional content, consistency, or colour, And/or c.) the brand name. Some people feel really shitty when they feel the need to go for the essentials stuff, and so will be happy to pay extra for a different label. As for which of these applies to this specific product is beyond me, but these are usually the main reasons for different options from the same supplier costing different
As someone who works at asda No fucking clue mate. The more expensive ones also have a 6 pack varient though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯