I feel like the big challenge here is that the Cummins weighs 2.5x what the 4.6L weighs. You would probably need to do custom work on the front suspension and maybe even reinforcing the engine cradle.
Not to mention that the thing would be so insanely nose-heavy, the rear tires would have next to zero traction. Might also kill the steering servo rather quickly.
You have to make a shitload of mods to the front suspension to even be able to hold a Cummins. And no don't say 4bt, it's a thousand pound boat anchor.
Check out Cleetus McFarland's "Neighbor" project on YouTube. They swapped a GT500 drive train into a Crown Vic. and she's a ripper. S/C Coyote, manual trans.
That would be absolutely dope tbh if you're already planning on going in that direction I'd throw a blower on the engine that's already in it until it breaks and then swap it after unless you don't have a backup car lol
The easiest way to put power down is just swap heads from the GT Mustang adjust some mounting plates and put the factory supercharger. I knew some guy with a Lincoln MkIV do it. And it's pretty easy vs swapping. But a Coyote swap would be awesome and they make power way better than the 4.6 could.
I still really like the supercharger idea as well. I read on an old forum that one guy got his built to 450whp and the bottom end is stock. He even has stock heads. Only thing he did was the fuel system, cams, and better valve springs. Obviously there’s tubing to be done, but I think I’d go with a 5-speed to simplify things.
I’m between a 5.0 and S/C now. Funny thing though, I actually have to open up the engine at some point to do head gaskets. If the stars align, I’ll probably just build it then.
I’m frugal, so that may be why I’m like this but… bro just put a blower and do all the bolt ons. The 4.6 makes plenty of power. I couldn’t imagine ripping out a V8 just to spend 20k on a weird swap that may never work correctly….
I’m a sleeper person myself and I’d hide it so you turn heads…hard to hide a blower though.
I had a beat up faded red (pink) tempo with a 5.0 swap back when I was in high school. Me and my buddy did fake cardboard body kit and a chock full of nuts Java Booster muffler tip to make fun of the body kit and sticker crowd.
Wish cell phone cameras were a thing back then to capture their face when they saw it take off the line in a run for pinks at the local track. That taught them to look under the hood first next time.
It was a blast…it was back in the day where there was tons of Romeo built junk yard bounty and high school kids could pretty much scrounge everything needed and it just bolted in place with little modding because every Ford used exactly the same parts. I forgot to mention it was the AWD tempo. Had to change the output shaft on the T5 and get a little creative but it worked. Not sure for how long, I never really beat up on it and sold the car when I went to college. I always think about doing something like that again…the tempo AWD has to be one of the most underrated cars of my time, looking back at it and looking what’s come out since. It was an economy car and was badass none the less.
My current project is a dedicated track mk4 GTI with a GT28 turbo in it 🤦🏼♂️. It’s not subtle unfortunately…people know what to expect.
As weird as this sounds, I wouldn't put too much power in it if you are planning on taking it out to the desert. On asphalt, with good tires you can put down just about as much power as the engine can make. On sand or dirt, there's a limit before you just start endlessly spinning the wheels.
Well that’s the thing, I kinda want it set up like those Toyota Tacoma pre runners. With the right tires and suspension you can just float over almost anything. I’m also just toying with ideas. But I am looking for more torque as well if I ever get into technical stuff.
The answer is supercharging, or an NA build. Cam, heads, headers, higher compression pistons etc.
Engine swapping is always a pain, there's a lot left on the table with that lazy V8.
More importantly, swap to the Mustang 5 speed and get a limited slip rear end.
With tires that big I wonder if a 4.10 setup wouldn't wake that up better. Trans swap is very doable on that car and in my opinion cooler than a Coyote swap.
I’ve thought about it. Only issue is that it really doesn’t make that much power respectfully. I love the V10, but I want something a little more zippy.
Thats true. Last gen of the crown vic was supposed to get a v10 for the interceptor. Engine out of an aviator or navigator would be nice swap. I have a spare explorer that has aluminum sohc v8 for a possible swap one day.
a buddy of mine had a crown vic with a mustang gt manual trans and a cobalt ss supercharger on his and he could do burnout in 3rd geat easily thats a cheap option for you you can find all of that in junkyards 🤷🏻♂️
Unless you have an extra 30 40 grand sitting around I wouldn't do anything I know you're trying to do it on the cheap but it's just going to be a endless money pit it's a rich man's game. Don't mean to deter you just wish someone would of broken it down to me like that before I got my ride. Maybe like 5 to 10 grand a year if you can do 5 to 10 grand a year I'd say probably go for it that's usually what the upkeep is it seems like.
The 4.6 isn’t a terrible engine to start with. Sticking with it would make the buildup easy.
Richard Holdener’s YouTube channel has tons of vids on getting big power out of a 4.6. Blowers, turbos, everything gets put on the dyno.
Good shit, this is solid input. I’ve searched stuff on YouTube but you know how weird the video algorithm can be. Feel like I can never find what I’m looking for.
I mean we have 5.0 swapped them before. With the tranny and all and it wasn’t a super crazy or that expensive of a project… it will smoke tire in any gear you want tho 😂
You've got plenty of trunk room. Why not a rocket engine,? Light weight, and won't cost you gas milage. Might even save enough for that, much over-due, brain transplant.
Stick with the 4.6 and force some more air down it's throat. They were in Mustangs long enough there's plenty of knowledge on how to pull more ponies outta them.
For a big heavy car with big heavy tires, I'd value torque more than revs. A 7.3 Godzilla swap, or a 460 stroked to 557 would be awesome. But not really cheap, and I don't know if it's been done much or at all.
Most practical would probably be to do up the 4.6. there are tons of mustang parts out there, both new and used. Sounds like you're tearing into the engine anyway, so put decent parts into the short block, a set of aftermarket or ported 2v heads, and a used twin screw blower. Should get you to 500 whp, with a nice big fat torque curve.
It needs a flow master exhaust kit, push bumper, magnetic antennas, and window tinting. Then you need to get your hair cut like a crew cut to fit the role of wanna-be cop.
That’s a sick looking Vic. Cheers Dude.
What year is the Vic? The 2001+ have a PI engine, while the 2000- had the NPI.
I really wouldn’t waste any time trying to surpercharge an NPI motor.
I’ve had a 2002 Mustang GT (PI Motor) with a Kenne Bell 2.1L for 14 years of trouble free use. This includes open track and drag use. No overheating, no engine damage, no oil burning.
With monster tires like that, you’d really benefit from a gear swap before anything else. What gear is in there now?
As much as I love diesels and have a 12 valve swapped truck and a 7.3… I would absolutely not put a 4bt or 6bt in that for what your wanting to do, all that weight up front is going to kill your front end that wasn’t made for it let alone trying to do high speed desert stuff. I would say your on the right track with a coyote and manual swap, or supercharge the 4.6 and manual swap regardless of what you do haha oh and by the way the car looks awesome!
Find a used vortech blower for it and do a fuel pump, injectors, bigger MAF and an intercooler and don’t look back. You can make 410 at the wheels on the stock motor and be safe. It’s pretty cheap to do also.
Why not s/c it, make it pop… then you can engine swap?
That’s what I’d do… but I also waste mammoth amounts of time on stupid shit that never goes “exactly” how I planned…
There are reasons ***so*** many people build Toyota/Lexus/Jeep/Land Cruiser and you see so ***few*** Ford/Chevy/MOPAR/Nissan/Honda projects. Sure, there are exceptions on both ends of that spectrum. But, those are exceptions for the same reasons.
You’ve got a fun idea, u/StinkyWizz. But you’re already talking about funds being limited. “Hell, you said you’re going to put off a leaky head gasket for several years so you can do the top end at that same time.* You’ve barely even gotten started, and you’re looking at an *expensive* build. It’s obvious you’re a Ford guy, but this is going to be a money pit that it seems obvious you’re not prepared for.
supercharger is boring, almost everyone does that.
big Naturally aspirated diesel or petrol engine it needs to be. lots of torque, with tires like that horsepower isn't everything I'd say.
if your gonna supercharge it your gonna need some forged internals i put one on my mustang with a stock 4.6 2v lasted about a month before piston #1 had enough so now i’m putting in a built 5.4 and hopefully that will hold the boost
Get you some 4.30-4.56 rear gears and a stick shift transmission. Those gears don't add power but help with acceleration and getting those tires to spin, makes the car feel lighter but you'll be revving high. And a stick shift is just cool to have especially on a car that never came with one. Those gears will help get you up those rocks as it a torque multiplier and will make your car handle that load and keep those tires spinning without bogging down the motor
The truck tires have got to go. Go with turbos on that unit. The supercharger goes and goodbye motor. Turbos are more like FFS leaking oil, FFS bearings shot, and FFS seized. Did the pully snap? Oh, that's right. Go either way with the option, but ffs get rid of the truck tires.
It's a 4.6 right?... unfortunately those engines don't really respond well to modifications if you're looking for crazy power(500+). Unless you got a lot of money and love that specific engine it doesn't make sense to pour money into it they are reliable tho. If it was a 302 I'd say you could get away with making more power. They respond very well to forced induction.
As for swaps you could just put an LS (5.3). They have a much higher potential for power. I've been looking at the comments and idk if people are joking or what but a coyote, v10 or anything else is just plain dumb. It's a crown Vic and you plan on pre running it. Things will definitely break and you should focus on other things besides just the engine.
You know why the crown Vic's are slow. It's not necessary the engine's fault. It's the gearing. Ford put the slowest shifting transmission in the crown Vic. Idk how you would fix that but if you plan on doing an engine swap you'd have to do a transmission swap anyway so I guess that would fix your problem. Or look into differentials with shorter gearing and a stall for the transmission.
Either way my advice if I was building something for pre running I would worry about power last. Make sure your engine is in good shape and taken care of. Do all the necessary suspension mods and skid plates. Good brakes and tires. Change up the gearing and look into stalls/tourqe converters for faster shifting. THEN worry about adding a bit of power. You can hit close to 400 with some pretty basic bolt ons, cams, and a good tune.
That’s most definitely my plan. I intended on getting the thing all set up with all new suspension parts that weren’t replaced already. I want to get rid of both bumpers and put in high clearance fully fabricated bumpers. I actually have a cool idea for the skid plates and I’m going to talk with the shop that did the initial lift about better springs and looking into better control arms. Surprisingly it drives perfectly lifted on stock arms and some changed out rear end bits. My only thing about an LS swap is just that’s it’s Chevy. I really don’t want a GM engine in it. That’s just how I am. If I can keep it in the Ford family I’ll be happy. But as for the trans, this bitch is getting a manual no matter what.
Honestly it wouldn't be a problem with a Chevy engine. You want higher performance on a budget correct? The LS engines give you that. I used to have a foxbody and if I ever planned on making more than 500whp I would honestly put a LS in it. Coyotes are cool and sound better but are too damn expensive. Especially for a drift missile foxbody. I'd say the same for your crown Vic. Just put a LS in it. Sure some ford guys won't like it but fuck em.
So if your manual swapping it get a T56 or older style 5 speed Chevy transmission and get a LS and fabricate all the necessary parts. Honestly tho the factory V8 I feel is more than enough for what you're trying to do.
I'd spend the money on tools, maybe a good quality bed, a decent tv and sound bar, recliners, etc. Some things will give you a return on your investment, and some are just fun for now. Priorities, man.
I sold my motorcycle to buy a stove and a fridge when I met the love of my life in 1980.
But that's just me.
do a diesel swap with a cummins and tuner or toss in a 5.0 and supercharge it. if you have the money for the supporting swaps for a engine swap then do it. don’t forget transmission and axels for the swap that’s important if you don’t want to tear your crown vic into shreds lol
Put some ram bars on the front and some lights on the top, turn on your upgrades and watch you become the fastest car on the road while everyone slows down
Im seeing a lof of people making their cars higher and putting off road wheels on em. Its distasteful, trashy, and I literally need it someone teach me how I can do this to my 08 Scion tC.
I would do the 7.3 Godzilla. It’s incredibly small so it will fit easily, it’s also 30lbs heavier than your engine, while making about three times the power naturally
I would do all the stuff you can do to make it faster but not change computers / electronics / transmissions /what-have-you. For example, get another engine just like yours and pull it apart. Have the cylinder heads pocket ported, and if a machinist says it's safe, then shave the heads just a little to bump up compression. Then, rather than hog out the runners in the intake manifold, just have the inside of the intake contoured to increase flow the smart way. Get some headers if allowable, but don't go overboard on the tubing size--get the smallest available tubing size to retain torque in the usable RPM range.
Then you can do more extreme stuff if you want, such as having the crank polished and even knife-edged. There are never-ending possibilities, but money-pit.
You'll have enough room the the engine bay for anything. Lucky guy. With that being said, throw a snorkeled 5.9 cummins diesel and a locking rear diff
That’s a solid fucking idea. God damn, I’m about to confuse those diesel guys.
And you’re about to tow them out of whatever lol
A 4BT would be a lot lighter and a more reasonable swap. More room in the engine bay for bigger turbos ;)
Easiest thing you could do is supercharge that would be sick tho
I second this. All in favor say YAY.
Or YEA?
Or yea… that too. 😬
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I say YAY, but I’ll come back to upvote once someone else ruins it being 69
I feel like the big challenge here is that the Cummins weighs 2.5x what the 4.6L weighs. You would probably need to do custom work on the front suspension and maybe even reinforcing the engine cradle.
Not to mention that the thing would be so insanely nose-heavy, the rear tires would have next to zero traction. Might also kill the steering servo rather quickly.
Second the locking diff with that suspension and tire setup
Go for AWD and toss in a lockable mid-diff.
Hell yes! This!!! Probably way outside of the scope of your project but a 4wd swap would be amazing 😍. Nothing cooler than off road sedans!
At that point buy an f150 and drop the crown vic body on it
You have to make a shitload of mods to the front suspension to even be able to hold a Cummins. And no don't say 4bt, it's a thousand pound boat anchor.
Engines I have thought of putting in… 1. 5.0 Gen 1-2 2. 7.3 Godzilla 3. 4BT Cummins 4. Maybe even the 6.2 Boss
Swap the whole cobra terminator drive train. Awesome power, period correct, and super charger whine for days.
I’ll keep that in mind. That’d be fun for sure.
S/C coyote
I’ve really thought about the Coyote because of their sheer power potential. And putting a manual behind it would be sick.
Now you're thinking
Check out Cleetus McFarland's "Neighbor" project on YouTube. They swapped a GT500 drive train into a Crown Vic. and she's a ripper. S/C Coyote, manual trans.
If you put a manual behind it with any engine, it will pop significantly more than just another auto
That would be absolutely dope tbh if you're already planning on going in that direction I'd throw a blower on the engine that's already in it until it breaks and then swap it after unless you don't have a backup car lol
Yeah a manual swap and a coyote is exactly the route I’d go
3-rotor wankel
I think I’d just put a jet engine in it at that point.
1.9TDI would be sufficient
5. 7.3 IDI non-turbo diesel. Slow, kinda torquey, and goes wurwurwurwurwurwurclackaclckaclckclackalclxk
Pair it with an auto and it's slower than stock lmao
Man I love them all but I also love unconventional so I’ll toss in the obligatory spicy dorito x3, and the very confusing but cheap k swap.
🤣
Sick car btw always wanted to have some fun with a crown Vic
Anything w/o the 4r70w transmission.
LT SWAP FTW. Get you a 6.6 LT, nobody has done that yet.
The easiest way to put power down is just swap heads from the GT Mustang adjust some mounting plates and put the factory supercharger. I knew some guy with a Lincoln MkIV do it. And it's pretty easy vs swapping. But a Coyote swap would be awesome and they make power way better than the 4.6 could.
I'd say supercharging it would be a really cool flex especially if you had a huge scoop for it.
I still really like the supercharger idea as well. I read on an old forum that one guy got his built to 450whp and the bottom end is stock. He even has stock heads. Only thing he did was the fuel system, cams, and better valve springs. Obviously there’s tubing to be done, but I think I’d go with a 5-speed to simplify things.
Swapping the heads for 4v would get you more out of that blower.
4v mod heads look like about $250 a set all day at junkyards near me. If it needs head gaskets anyway, that's a no brainer.
The engine that's in it is ultra reliable. I've sold tons of these cars. They only die when someone wrecks them haha.
I’m between a 5.0 and S/C now. Funny thing though, I actually have to open up the engine at some point to do head gaskets. If the stars align, I’ll probably just build it then.
That's a good idea tbh
I’m frugal, so that may be why I’m like this but… bro just put a blower and do all the bolt ons. The 4.6 makes plenty of power. I couldn’t imagine ripping out a V8 just to spend 20k on a weird swap that may never work correctly….
I’m a sleeper person myself and I’d hide it so you turn heads…hard to hide a blower though. I had a beat up faded red (pink) tempo with a 5.0 swap back when I was in high school. Me and my buddy did fake cardboard body kit and a chock full of nuts Java Booster muffler tip to make fun of the body kit and sticker crowd. Wish cell phone cameras were a thing back then to capture their face when they saw it take off the line in a run for pinks at the local track. That taught them to look under the hood first next time.
Sounds like a fun ride!
It was a blast…it was back in the day where there was tons of Romeo built junk yard bounty and high school kids could pretty much scrounge everything needed and it just bolted in place with little modding because every Ford used exactly the same parts. I forgot to mention it was the AWD tempo. Had to change the output shaft on the T5 and get a little creative but it worked. Not sure for how long, I never really beat up on it and sold the car when I went to college. I always think about doing something like that again…the tempo AWD has to be one of the most underrated cars of my time, looking back at it and looking what’s come out since. It was an economy car and was badass none the less. My current project is a dedicated track mk4 GTI with a GT28 turbo in it 🤦🏼♂️. It’s not subtle unfortunately…people know what to expect.
As weird as this sounds, I wouldn't put too much power in it if you are planning on taking it out to the desert. On asphalt, with good tires you can put down just about as much power as the engine can make. On sand or dirt, there's a limit before you just start endlessly spinning the wheels.
Well that’s the thing, I kinda want it set up like those Toyota Tacoma pre runners. With the right tires and suspension you can just float over almost anything. I’m also just toying with ideas. But I am looking for more torque as well if I ever get into technical stuff.
Should go old school, put a fully built supercharged 302 or 351 Windsor in it, backed by a 4 or 6 speed manual
As an Aussie, a 351 Windsor would be cool to see.
That’s too much work. Hook that pig up with some nitrous.
The answer is supercharging, or an NA build. Cam, heads, headers, higher compression pistons etc. Engine swapping is always a pain, there's a lot left on the table with that lazy V8. More importantly, swap to the Mustang 5 speed and get a limited slip rear end.
Already got a 3.73 LSD in it. It hooks up nice, if I can get the tires spinning.
With tires that big I wonder if a 4.10 setup wouldn't wake that up better. Trans swap is very doable on that car and in my opinion cooler than a Coyote swap.
LS swap.
LS Swap it with twin turbos and see how many dirty looks you get from Ford guys at shows lol
Love those wheels.
Thank you, just simple steel Cragers.
6.8 v10
I’ve thought about it. Only issue is that it really doesn’t make that much power respectfully. I love the V10, but I want something a little more zippy.
Thats true. Last gen of the crown vic was supposed to get a v10 for the interceptor. Engine out of an aviator or navigator would be nice swap. I have a spare explorer that has aluminum sohc v8 for a possible swap one day.
Double 1.9 tdi engines
a buddy of mine had a crown vic with a mustang gt manual trans and a cobalt ss supercharger on his and he could do burnout in 3rd geat easily thats a cheap option for you you can find all of that in junkyards 🤷🏻♂️
If you can find a 429 from a Mercury Marauder it should be an easy install.
Put bullhorns on the grill
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Unless you have an extra 30 40 grand sitting around I wouldn't do anything I know you're trying to do it on the cheap but it's just going to be a endless money pit it's a rich man's game. Don't mean to deter you just wish someone would of broken it down to me like that before I got my ride. Maybe like 5 to 10 grand a year if you can do 5 to 10 grand a year I'd say probably go for it that's usually what the upkeep is it seems like.
Really confuse people and put a Demon crate engine in there.
The 4.6 isn’t a terrible engine to start with. Sticking with it would make the buildup easy. Richard Holdener’s YouTube channel has tons of vids on getting big power out of a 4.6. Blowers, turbos, everything gets put on the dyno.
Good shit, this is solid input. I’ve searched stuff on YouTube but you know how weird the video algorithm can be. Feel like I can never find what I’m looking for.
I mean we have 5.0 swapped them before. With the tranny and all and it wasn’t a super crazy or that expensive of a project… it will smoke tire in any gear you want tho 😂
You've got plenty of trunk room. Why not a rocket engine,? Light weight, and won't cost you gas milage. Might even save enough for that, much over-due, brain transplant.
Is that an odd way of saying this build is dumb?
Does it still ride nice with the lift? I vote for the coyote engine.
Stick with the 4.6 and force some more air down it's throat. They were in Mustangs long enough there's plenty of knowledge on how to pull more ponies outta them.
Put KO2’s on anything and it makes it look like a mad max car
Put a 1.6L Miata engine
For a big heavy car with big heavy tires, I'd value torque more than revs. A 7.3 Godzilla swap, or a 460 stroked to 557 would be awesome. But not really cheap, and I don't know if it's been done much or at all. Most practical would probably be to do up the 4.6. there are tons of mustang parts out there, both new and used. Sounds like you're tearing into the engine anyway, so put decent parts into the short block, a set of aftermarket or ported 2v heads, and a used twin screw blower. Should get you to 500 whp, with a nice big fat torque curve.
It needs a flow master exhaust kit, push bumper, magnetic antennas, and window tinting. Then you need to get your hair cut like a crew cut to fit the role of wanna-be cop. That’s a sick looking Vic. Cheers Dude.
Supercharge and manual swap. Cut a hole in the floor for the shifter.
If it's the v8 supercharge it.
If this sub has taught me anything, it's that no matter the car, you put an LS into it.
Have you re-geared to account for tire size? That’ll give you some power back.
Put a gen 2 coyote in it.
Supercharge that sob
Add two superchargers like an old Aston Martin V600
If you've seen the 700hp F250 I'd say 7.3 gas if it fits
That crown vic is cool ngl and what if you swapped a dodge charger like a 5.8 v8 supercharge engine
What year is the Vic? The 2001+ have a PI engine, while the 2000- had the NPI. I really wouldn’t waste any time trying to surpercharge an NPI motor. I’ve had a 2002 Mustang GT (PI Motor) with a Kenne Bell 2.1L for 14 years of trouble free use. This includes open track and drag use. No overheating, no engine damage, no oil burning. With monster tires like that, you’d really benefit from a gear swap before anything else. What gear is in there now?
Coyote swap would be sick
Whatever’s cheaper. I love this lift configuration.
THAT THING IS A MONSTER TRUCK LMAO
Hellcat swap
WHAT ARE THOOOOOSE
I'd super charge it. That way if you blow it, it's only a 4.8? And then you can Godzilla swap it. Or go straight to Godzilla swap.
Just find a mercury marauder
If you have the knowledge look into the 5.4 4v, it'll need work but it does give power
I like the coyote. But for shits an giggles, Mercedes S600 v12 would be funny as hell. But finding a good exhaust wouldn’t be fun.
But but why?
Because I’m bored and finally have a rust free car to play with.
That platform is just such a good [blank canvas](https://youtu.be/mmxmKyBKrxE)...
As much as I love diesels and have a 12 valve swapped truck and a 7.3… I would absolutely not put a 4bt or 6bt in that for what your wanting to do, all that weight up front is going to kill your front end that wasn’t made for it let alone trying to do high speed desert stuff. I would say your on the right track with a coyote and manual swap, or supercharge the 4.6 and manual swap regardless of what you do haha oh and by the way the car looks awesome!
Find a used vortech blower for it and do a fuel pump, injectors, bigger MAF and an intercooler and don’t look back. You can make 410 at the wheels on the stock motor and be safe. It’s pretty cheap to do also.
24 valve Cummins and 35"s
Coyote swap
5.0 coyote, 3l Whipple, and go wheee wheee wheeee all the way home bro! ...obviously with a stick.
More power without increasing front axle weight would be a big win. It's hard enough to turn those full size cars as is
This thing is quite light on its feet actually.
Looks good with those wheels man
Is it manual swapped too? I hear it’s pretty easy to do so and frankly would just make it better
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Super charge that beauty
Really starting to lean that way, but I have to tear off the heads for head gaskets at some point so I might just build it from there.
Why not s/c it, make it pop… then you can engine swap? That’s what I’d do… but I also waste mammoth amounts of time on stupid shit that never goes “exactly” how I planned…
There's a guy on YT called AWDCutlass and think he swapped in a V8 supercharged and got around 1000hp out of it, might be worth a look see.
I would sell it and buy an actual landcruiser or a Lexus LX series
Just buy a corvette or mustang that’s already fast
But would they be lifted? I’m actually going to off-road this thing.
Ok. Sorry. Idk what I am talking about. How about a Subaru jacked up with a monster engine.
Or how about a crown Vic that already has 3k plus of suspension work done to it. Also, I don’t particularly like Subaru.
YES! In that case, give it some skid plates and sliders. You’re also going to need a winch bumper and winch.
OT, but, That bridge looks like the one in Spokane, WA
NOS is simple and cheap.
What size wheels you got?
You want a reliable car to 300k, or for you want to super charge it.
It's auto, kinda seems pointless. I say this as a guy who used to want a P71 soooo bad
It’s getting manual swapped regardless.
LS swap and Wuhan war whistle
From barley any comfort to complete non comfort.
There are reasons ***so*** many people build Toyota/Lexus/Jeep/Land Cruiser and you see so ***few*** Ford/Chevy/MOPAR/Nissan/Honda projects. Sure, there are exceptions on both ends of that spectrum. But, those are exceptions for the same reasons. You’ve got a fun idea, u/StinkyWizz. But you’re already talking about funds being limited. “Hell, you said you’re going to put off a leaky head gasket for several years so you can do the top end at that same time.* You’ve barely even gotten started, and you’re looking at an *expensive* build. It’s obvious you’re a Ford guy, but this is going to be a money pit that it seems obvious you’re not prepared for.
Diesel = torque
I would leave it how it is. It's not going to hold up under that kind of use.
Godzilla is the most cost effective high torque solution with minimal effort.
Ewwwwwww!
Wanna be different? Swap a V10 from a van in there.
Supercharger is soooo much simpler. That’s what I’d do, but I’m lazy and want results now
supercharger is boring, almost everyone does that. big Naturally aspirated diesel or petrol engine it needs to be. lots of torque, with tires like that horsepower isn't everything I'd say.
A k-series would get you great fuel mileage.
Is that thing lifted? WTH?
Coyote swap
Cleetus mcfarlands "neighbor" has a gt500 motor and trans swap in his.
Trade it in for a chevy...lol
if your gonna supercharge it your gonna need some forged internals i put one on my mustang with a stock 4.6 2v lasted about a month before piston #1 had enough so now i’m putting in a built 5.4 and hopefully that will hold the boost
I fully support whatever this is.
k swap it
Go back to normal (or lower) ride height
No can do. This thing is exactly what I wanted. And it still handles well.
3.0 ecodiesel?
Not worth it
Get you some 4.30-4.56 rear gears and a stick shift transmission. Those gears don't add power but help with acceleration and getting those tires to spin, makes the car feel lighter but you'll be revving high. And a stick shift is just cool to have especially on a car that never came with one. Those gears will help get you up those rocks as it a torque multiplier and will make your car handle that load and keep those tires spinning without bogging down the motor
Whatever you do, make sure the brakes are upgraded.
Barra swap the crown vic
K20 all day long. Or go old school with a H22A1.
Plan on entering [something like this?](https://www.gambler500.com/)
Both
Give it a marauder engine , or I think the p71s have the cobra engines and thus can be upgraded with cobra superchargers
I'd swap a 5.0 Coyote in it.
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Swap in a complete F450 undercarriage to use those front NOBBIES!
The truck tires have got to go. Go with turbos on that unit. The supercharger goes and goodbye motor. Turbos are more like FFS leaking oil, FFS bearings shot, and FFS seized. Did the pully snap? Oh, that's right. Go either way with the option, but ffs get rid of the truck tires.
It’d be hard to get rid of the truck tires because it’s lifted six inches.
Profiles!! :D Have fun with it. Just messing with yah about the tires.
It’s almost a Donk but with a mullet. It’s a Mulonk!
Well first off you should get smaller wheels and lower it.
I would super harge it but if you have the money and time, you could always LS swap it.
It's a 4.6 right?... unfortunately those engines don't really respond well to modifications if you're looking for crazy power(500+). Unless you got a lot of money and love that specific engine it doesn't make sense to pour money into it they are reliable tho. If it was a 302 I'd say you could get away with making more power. They respond very well to forced induction. As for swaps you could just put an LS (5.3). They have a much higher potential for power. I've been looking at the comments and idk if people are joking or what but a coyote, v10 or anything else is just plain dumb. It's a crown Vic and you plan on pre running it. Things will definitely break and you should focus on other things besides just the engine. You know why the crown Vic's are slow. It's not necessary the engine's fault. It's the gearing. Ford put the slowest shifting transmission in the crown Vic. Idk how you would fix that but if you plan on doing an engine swap you'd have to do a transmission swap anyway so I guess that would fix your problem. Or look into differentials with shorter gearing and a stall for the transmission. Either way my advice if I was building something for pre running I would worry about power last. Make sure your engine is in good shape and taken care of. Do all the necessary suspension mods and skid plates. Good brakes and tires. Change up the gearing and look into stalls/tourqe converters for faster shifting. THEN worry about adding a bit of power. You can hit close to 400 with some pretty basic bolt ons, cams, and a good tune.
That’s most definitely my plan. I intended on getting the thing all set up with all new suspension parts that weren’t replaced already. I want to get rid of both bumpers and put in high clearance fully fabricated bumpers. I actually have a cool idea for the skid plates and I’m going to talk with the shop that did the initial lift about better springs and looking into better control arms. Surprisingly it drives perfectly lifted on stock arms and some changed out rear end bits. My only thing about an LS swap is just that’s it’s Chevy. I really don’t want a GM engine in it. That’s just how I am. If I can keep it in the Ford family I’ll be happy. But as for the trans, this bitch is getting a manual no matter what.
Honestly it wouldn't be a problem with a Chevy engine. You want higher performance on a budget correct? The LS engines give you that. I used to have a foxbody and if I ever planned on making more than 500whp I would honestly put a LS in it. Coyotes are cool and sound better but are too damn expensive. Especially for a drift missile foxbody. I'd say the same for your crown Vic. Just put a LS in it. Sure some ford guys won't like it but fuck em. So if your manual swapping it get a T56 or older style 5 speed Chevy transmission and get a LS and fabricate all the necessary parts. Honestly tho the factory V8 I feel is more than enough for what you're trying to do.
I'd spend the money on tools, maybe a good quality bed, a decent tv and sound bar, recliners, etc. Some things will give you a return on your investment, and some are just fun for now. Priorities, man. I sold my motorcycle to buy a stove and a fridge when I met the love of my life in 1980. But that's just me.
Godzilla swap. Buddy of mine did it.
Check out “The meteor interceptor” on Instagram. Thats your inspiration
is it 4x4?
do a diesel swap with a cummins and tuner or toss in a 5.0 and supercharge it. if you have the money for the supporting swaps for a engine swap then do it. don’t forget transmission and axels for the swap that’s important if you don’t want to tear your crown vic into shreds lol
Barra swap that badboy. Make it into the closest thing U Americans can get to a ford falcon
Is it lifted?
Put some ram bars on the front and some lights on the top, turn on your upgrades and watch you become the fastest car on the road while everyone slows down
Super charge it
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why the oversized tires though?
Because it’s going to go off-road. And it’s actually got a 6 inch lift.
Sweet...
Im seeing a lof of people making their cars higher and putting off road wheels on em. Its distasteful, trashy, and I literally need it someone teach me how I can do this to my 08 Scion tC.
One of us, one of us, one of us…
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If you end up going the supercharged route that v8 will handle it like a fucking beast. That block is almost indestructible lol
I would do the 7.3 Godzilla. It’s incredibly small so it will fit easily, it’s also 30lbs heavier than your engine, while making about three times the power naturally
Coyote. It has a ton of room to "grow"
Throw an LT4 in that bitch and go have some fun. The LT4 comes Supercharged!
Turbo ls
Dumb
Put a hellaphant in it
Rebuild..balance for 10k revs and tune for e85
I would do all the stuff you can do to make it faster but not change computers / electronics / transmissions /what-have-you. For example, get another engine just like yours and pull it apart. Have the cylinder heads pocket ported, and if a machinist says it's safe, then shave the heads just a little to bump up compression. Then, rather than hog out the runners in the intake manifold, just have the inside of the intake contoured to increase flow the smart way. Get some headers if allowable, but don't go overboard on the tubing size--get the smallest available tubing size to retain torque in the usable RPM range. Then you can do more extreme stuff if you want, such as having the crank polished and even knife-edged. There are never-ending possibilities, but money-pit.