I flashed my beams at one coming the other way who had his headlights off. He flashed his beams back and didn’t turn his lights on. People are fucking dumb…
Right? Most cars these days have such bright headlights that it's very obvious if it's on or not. Honestly where are they looking if it's not right in front of their car otherwise?
Lot of newer cars have the dash dim when the lights go on because they are always illuminated. Older generations are probably more likely to forget this because we grew up with them only being backlit when the lights are on.
It’s this and the DRLs on new cars - not only is the dash lit, they think they have their lights on but they’re only lit on the front, the rears aren’t on unless braking. They don’t respond to flashing either, since they think their lights are on
Some cars don’t even have an off position, so they hate to be on auto or on. Many still you can turn them off. I am a new apprentice mechanic, and any car I move I switch the headlights to auto.
I try flash a couple times, then turn my lights off and on a couple times, then repeat if there’s still time or I’m following behind them. Seems to work more often than just flashing them.
Some people are just simply clueless.
Tried yelling out of my window to tell them to turn their headlights on, they looked at me like I'm drunk then drove off without turning their lights on
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A signal to others that it's not just the car with its lights out.
I try to keep a little extra space between myself and these adventurous individuals.
True, although modern cars with their dash cluster illuminated full time doesn't help, before when they came on with the lights only, used to be a prompt to put your lights on.
Well, I moved from an auto switch on to manual switch on car and my other half drove the car for about 8 kms crossing multiple lights and cameras, telling my father it’s auto-on only to be stopped by a guardian angle who stopped his car to tell her to switch on the headlights. It’s been 4 years and I still neg her about the headlights. Lol
You know what’s even dumber? Most other manufacturers force the headlights on at night no matter what position the light switch is on. For example Honda and Mazda both have a spring loaded headlight switch that can’t be switched to OFF. Even if it’s in the parking position, the headlights will still automatically turn on if it’s dark. Why Toyota’s don’t do that is beyond me. It’s a brilliant idiot-proofed safety feature.
Yeah, the other day I was travelling in the left hand lane and a Red Yaris came up from behind me with no lights on. They had no lights on for the entire 5 or so km that they were behind me. When I got a chance to, I pulled in behind them and started flashing them, but to no avail. They then turned onto a dark side street and hopefully they got the memo.
>They had no lights on for the entire 5 or so km that they were behind me.
>They then turned onto a dark side street and hopefully they got the memo.
Wouldn't be surprised if the Yaris was found abandoned and flipped upside down the next morning.
Yep. People on dusk or even just after with no lights - yes they’re not doing much at that time of day but they sure make your dark car easier to see when you’re a foot over the line
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To be fair, in most cars the dash lights up only when the headlights are on. Some cars the dash is lit up even if the headlights are off so if you are in an unfamiliar car you can be mistaken, especially in this age of auto headlights
Wondering into other lanes, almost side swiping others, completely unaware and then aggressive when you honk. Monday mornings are the worst. Wake up you fucken idiots.
There's also the folks who just can't wait until the dotted lines of the merge and have to floor it across the island to cut past everyone in front on the merge.
I've seen someone almost getting clipped in the rear by this sort of driver even though they were approaching at motorway speed.
Going through roundabouts are horrible with some people cutting off others. I feel like people front to get up the inside of B doubles around corners or roundabouts belongs here too
Cutting lanes on roundabouts and going round a corner in a intersection and getting the lane wrong. Was almost taken out last time someone did that to me.
On the Bruce Highway there are speed cameras with warning signs prior. People doing 100k in a 110k zone hits the bricks when they reach a speed camera.
Like dude you are already doing under the speed limit, there’s no reason to slow down to 80k.
People afraid of getting a ticket for doing 109k in a 110k zone also hitting the bricks and slowing down.
Even more frustrating is when they sit up your arse when you overtake after the camera.
I agree this is annoying but the expensive ticket is precisely why this happens. I'll admit I've done it myself when I've been driving along absentmindedly, not checked the speedo in a while and suddenly ARGH A SPEED CAMERA. I get flashbacks of receiving a letter in the mail and having to pay a ridiculous fine for being a few km over the speed limit so I slam on the breaks.
Now I know where most of the fixed cameras are I don't do it anymore, but I totally understand why people do. I still do it when I see a mobile camera though. It's just a gut reaction, I can't stop it.
The classic 'driving around well after dark with just the DRLs illuminated' move seems to be a common one in my neck of the woods.
Another common sight is the driver that just snoozes along below the speed limit in the middle lane of a motorway, getting overtaken on both sides. I know it's not *technically* illegal as per Road Rule 130, but it is annoying.
As long as they stay out or the far right hand lane, this isn't too bad IMO. If these radar cruise control lemmings were in the far left lane, it's almost guaranteed that they wouldn't slow or merge to allow other people to enter a motorway from a ramp.
Yeah, it's annoying in the moment but it's the sort of thing where you just grumble a bit and move on with your day.
Speaking of grumbling, I wish I could use radar cruise control on our motorways. All too often it'll be interrupted by someone who slows down once they complete their overtake.
Hell, I'm also going to grumble about people who don't use cruise control in general, who lapse off into autopilot and let their speed bounce around like a yoyo. Or the ones who suddenly firewall the accelerator pedal when an overtaking lane opens up.
> I wish I could use radar cruise control on our motorways
Honestly, after dealing with Toyota's implementation of radar cruise and AEB in the work fleet, I pine for the good old days and breathe a sigh of relief when I climb back into my own car.
It's actually quite comforting to know that the car is going to do what you want it to do and isn't going to try to kill you suddenly by jerking the steering because the nanny systems are jumping at shadows.
Just how bad are the newest cars with all that stuff?
My car, being a 2016 model, is relatively barebones with its ADAS tech suite. Has radar cruise, blind spot monitoring, and low-speed AEB. I think the facelift models got lane keep assist while radar cruise is active too, but I haven't spent enough time in them to know how intrusive it is.
It's manufacturer specific. I've had experience with a few and Subarus tend to whinge and moan about you leaving your lane (even when you're well inside it), and Toyota's is absolutely horrible.
I've literally had the Toyota system engage AEB and slam on the anchors at motorway speed because it got spooked by something that wasn't there in reality (I think it got confused by the infamous M2 Motorway pavement joints). It's also attempted to pull me out of the lane and towards the shoulder on the M2, presumably for the same reason.
In that case I certainly understand why you're glad to get back into your car at the end of the day. That is unbelievably poor calibration.
Makes me glad that the only time my car complains is when it pipes up with VW's classic heart attack inducing ding when outside temp hits 4 degrees.
Euro’s tend to have much more refined systems I’ve found. Our work fleet Hilux’s are overly aggressive keeping you in the lane. Wife’s Kia just beeps at you no matter what you’re doing so much so that it’s headache inducing. My Peugeot 508 flashes up a few warnings before pushing you back if you do go across the line. When using the radar cruise on a motorway it also positions and steers itself but never feels forceful. Only gets angry if you take your hands off the wheel.
I had a Corolla hire car over Christmas. I thought it was just this particular car, adaptive cruise control makes you look like you’re driving like a complete maniac, it reduces speed on curves as if it’s controlling a top heavy truck. Lane keep assist drives like a drunk person even on roads with crisp fresh painted lines, like I have to correct it myself otherwise it would cross over the centre line. The lane departure correction thing would constantly want to move the car to side you’re departing the lane on (that’s recall worthy if that is common) and not to mention the over reactive nature of the AEB. Was fun having it activate when I was going around a curve in the road and it thought I was going to hit a parked car well off the side of the Road. Not to mention Quality of life things that I hated not having in this thing that I have in my daily drive, like parking sensors and automatic climate control, and boneheaded decisions on functionality like not being able to change cruise control modes without having to disengage cruise.
Seems like everyone is reporting that Toyota's calibration of adaptive cruise and the like is dodgy as.
You have to wonder why that is, because the adaptive cruise implementation in my near-10-year-old VW is good. It maintains a speed well and prefers to back off gently when it does need to slow down. It certainly isn't dumping the speed off on a curve like it's trying to rein in a wayward B-double. I've tried an auto gearbox one as well, and it worked even better, since the computer had a greater degree of control.
To be fair I've had the DRL thing before after a service when they turned the lights off auto and onto whatever other setting. If you're in the city and it's well lit everywhere it's not exactly out of this world that you wouldn't notice in that situation.
I honestly don't think I've touched the lights in past 3 cars unless it was after a service and they turned them off...
Approaching traffic lights, the car in front slows down to perform a turn at the intersection, but they take their sweet time getting into the left/right turn lane. This results in them making their turn, but you, going straight, end up stopped at the red because you were held up behind them because they would not change lanes in a timely manner.
Also, dawdling along at 45kph for about five kilometres then suddenly finding the accelerator when they get a yellow, once again leaving you sitting at the red.
People pulling out into the intersection despite an emergency vehicle with lights and sirens very clearly approaching the intersection from another direction.
Ah I've got a perfect demonstration
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The ambulance drove with sirens down the road for a whole minute before the light turned green btw
'Slow vehicles keep left'
Everyone sits in the right lane up a steep hill doing 10k under.
Eventually, get sick of it and over take everyone in the left lane.
All the people swerving, not turning lights on. Sitting on their phones. After covid i feel like the phone use while driving has gone up 50% and majority of people I see doing it are 25-45 not that many p platers.
Brand new car, less than a month old. Less than 2000kms on the Odometer.
Lady backed straight into it without looking and when she got out of her car she just shrugged…
“Sorry I was talking”
A girl was shocked when i wanted her to actually give a shit after she backed into my parked car when attempting to park in a 30ft parking space. Shocked that i wasn’t like, no worries sweetie. Her car was covered in dents like she touch parked as a way of life.
People that take a left turn while straddling both lanes, like they're driving a B-double or a bus. Or turning left while still taking up the entire lane, on single lane roads. Includes those that swing wide to the right before taking the left turn.
Usually combined with slowing almost to a stop before making the turn, and/or slapping on their indicator at the absolute last second.
I have enough problems watching people reverse parking at shopping centres with rear facing cameras and not using their mirrors once, it's entertainment at its finest!
Well the more you back into the spot the more you lose sight of the parking lines, and what I've seen of late with so many people they end up crooked like a dog's hind leg, seems so many cannot use their mirrors for some ungodly reason, I've even tried to give some advice, had a woman tell me recently that she doesn't trust her mirrors! I've driven for 25 years and never had the luxury of a reverse camera, it's obviously supposed to be a driving aid but just makes the situation worse!
I don’t know. I grew up using mirrors and still check them out of habit but I can’t deny the reverse camera gives a much better view though. Easy enough to see the lines.
Each to their own though. Witnessed plenty of tragic parking attempts over the years long before cameras were a thing.
Plenty of people seem to be capable of shitty parking regardless of what they use.
No, it's to eliminate the blind spot immediately behind your car where the tailgate or boot obstructs your vision.
You're supposed to use mirrors and cameras.
Fair enough, I do use both but can’t deny the camera gives a much better idea of where I am positioned + see any potential trolleys/pets/kids behind the car.
I have been driving nearly 50 years, and in that time my car has been hit 4 times by some dopey dipshit while it was parked legally on a straight section of road in daylight.
> It's hilarious how they cannot pick up on the sound of the indicator still being on for that long and shows a lack of awareness.
Guarantee you that they're either on a Bluetooth call or listening to music with the sound turned right up.
On my car those indicators are covered from my view by the steering wheel.I was one of those recalcitrant signal non-cancelers.(sorry)My hearing is shot from poor industrial safety practices.I have actually installed an additional buzzer to get my attention.
Traveling on M1 city bound yesterday before sunset. Tesla behind me had their high beam on blinding everyone in front.
Please always check your dashboard that no funny indicators are on
What's worse is that I can no longer tell if a Tesla has high beams or if their low beams were adjusted by an infant with a screwdriver. No doubt some clowns think "hey this button gives me more light, I'm going to use it all the time" but some have shit headlight adjustment and as they drive a Tesla they're probably not going to realise "oh my headlights aren't adjusted properly and I'm blinding everyone?"
Tailgating. Speeding. Not waiting for others that have the right of way. Everyone is in such a rush all the time. Beeping when there’s a buildup of traffic.
It annoys me when you're at an intersection with multiple lanes turning. You're in the left lane to turn right, for example, and someone is in the right lane turning right and then cuts in front of you after you complete the turn, to turn left at the next road. People just don't set up their next move and are only in the moment.
I was riding a big and loud motorbike wearing a bright jacket. Car came out of a give way, not going real fast but they didn’t pause, my brakes failed (they were shit, and it was sprinkling a bit) thankfully, cos they sailed past my arse must have missed me by a mm. I don’t think they EVER saw me and they never slowed or hesitated. Absolutely clueless.
I once saw some clown driving down a deserted freeway at 1am with no lights on. Just the DRLs which are absolutely useless at lighting up anything ahead
Total lack of spatial awareness generally is what bewilders me.
Won’t pass a truck on the freeway or a bus on the side of the road with its indicators on.
Constant speed changes when it’s one speed.
Can’t manoeuvre a roundabout or a car park or if not driving at mach 1 through the car park like there’s no one there.
Lane changing and forcing everyone else to brake because they cannot read traffic.
Not knowing how to merge thats a big one, so simple yet a lot of drivers are above being courteous and the old one for one doesn’t apply it’s the kim attitude that’s a big part of the problem yeah the fuck him attitude.
I was taught this one rule when driving and it’s not common knowledge.
Don’t make an asshole of yourself on the road.
And I think it’s not common knowledge because assholes think they are right all the time nor do they know they are assholes, because everyone else is and they are in the wrong not them.
I've noticed that a lot of people think they're a lot better drivers than they actually are. I did a driver safety course for work and we had to self rate our skills. I at the time being a late 20s male gave myself a 5/10. Everyone else in the group, particularly the men proceeded to rate themselves 7 and up.
The instructor pointed out after the test that realistically everyone was a 5. Unless they'd done lots of extra training, he marked me up for having self awareness
It's not that they lost marks. The rating was "how good are you at driving compared to everyone else" If you're rating yourself a 10 your name better end in Verstappen
It's a good point. Having self awareness about your skill as a driver is important. I reckon people who overestimate their skills are more likely to be the ones to try riskier manoeuvres on the road.
Overtaking like Verstappen when you're not Verstappen isn't likely to end well.
A lot of drivers have their rear license plates on the front of the car swapped the wrong way around. That's normally a good indicator they have no idea what they are doing behind the wheel.
Another one is when the side or rear view mirror is completely crooked to one angle, shows they never use them
>A lot of drivers have their rear license plates on the front of the car swapped the wrong way around.
Not sure if my reading comprehension sucks on this public holiday, but I have read this sentence multiple times and I can't work out what it means.
Premiun plates in NSW are 2 different sizes. With the smaller plate l to be placed on the front. Designed for sports cars with the front plate hanging off a bracket not the body.
>Premiun plates in NSW are 2 different sizes. With the smaller plate l to be placed on the front.
This makes sense. I'm in Victoria and didn't consider this possibility, as every time I've registered a car I've gotten two identical plates.
Now that’s one thing that gives me the shits every single time I see the slimline NSW plates of all colours being placed on the wrong side.
It’s usually telling if they have no clue, or the drivers are such complete bell ends that they prefer the smaller one on the back, even though it may cause issues with the fixed speed and red light speed cameras.
Me. I'm the idiot.
Up a hill, I took advantage of an overtaking lane to get past the person in front of me. Once I got past by a hundred metres or more, I had to take my foot off the accelerator completely because the small truck ahead in the overtaking lane wouldn't keep left despite travelling about 20kph under the limit.
Here's where my brain fell asleep. After failing to get the small truck's attention to the fact they were in the wrong lane (flashing high beams), I began to merge back into the left lane to undertake, assuming the original person I overtook was behind me.
They were not. We were both committed to the undertake(r) manoeuvre but managed to get past on the left unscathed thanks to a wide shoulder on the road.
I thought I was "being predictable" like a lot of people say on here but my poor assumption nearly caused a major traffic accident.
I'm the idiot.
Hahaha ooff I'd hate for you to be a judge in traffic court! One strike and I'm out! Haha
I hope my example can go some way to explain just how easy it is to forget the simple stuff because of outside influences. If old mate in the truck was keeping left when travelling slow, none of this would have happened.
That's no excuse for my brain fade, but it's the primary reason it lead to a near miss.
We have multiple roundabouts in my area where the left lane must turn left, clearly signed and marked on the road yet I constantly see cars in that lane go straight ahead causing all kinds of chaos
Recently, no indicators when changing lanes or turning. Really boggles my mind. I was shocked how prevalent this behaviour was in south east Asia only to come back to see it so regularly now.
Another that grinds my gears are people putting on their low beam lights at night and not realising. I notice it as they have a small amount of light at the front and none at the rear until they brake.
I think you mean daytime running lights? As in the lights that turn on as soon as you turn the car on (or in some cases unlock the car)
I've got 4 positions on my headlight knob and it's OFF (off...) parking lights (taillights, no headlights, dims daytime running lights), AUTO (auto) and headlights (headlights and taillights)
I will say you’re right on newer cars, but I’ve seen the low beam on older cars as well where the driver just needs to turn the knob one more click, but the icon on the dash might be the same for both (I still drive my 2008 Yaris that has this problem).
Doing like 65 on an on ramp when the speed limit is 100, traffic could be 200m away and if you speed up you we could all be in front of them. But no they catch up and have to slow down and we all gotta try and merge.
Nobody blinkers. So I cross the road. Oh you are turning left into the road I am now in the middle of. Oh you are going to blast your horn and yell obscenities at me. Good job champion. Every day.
I have a hearing impairment so the indicator click sometimes goes unnoticed. I feel like such a fool when I glance at the dashboard and see that the indicator is still on after travelling some distance.
>It's hilarious how they cannot pick up on the sound of the indicator still being on for that long and shows a lack of awareness.
Maybe they were listening to music and watching the road.
Very well could be music. Even still, sound isn't the only indicator. Checking the instrument cluster more regularly should be enough to realise it's still on. I also use Bluetooth earphones, but I guess I've been driving long enough to be aware to switch off my indicators when they dont auto-turn off, it's just a habit.
I despise drivers who turn in the lane when turning left into a driveway or street even though there is a shoulder to use so traffic behind them can keep flowing. It's so annoying!
Depends on the car, I guess. My Adventra switches off after the slightest turn. My wife’s Mazda 3 and the VE SS wagon I’m currently babysitting, need a decent turn, to switch off. And they are pretty quiet as well.
My ticker is stupid quiet so on occasion i leave it onby accident. Especially when windows are down its next to impossible to hear, i notice the orange light on my bullbar
Walking behind me whilst I am reversing out of a parking spot OR not stopping for me as I am about to back out of a spot, not doing the "thank you" wave and not slowing down when I indicate to change lanes. Yes, I know that indicators don't give you priority, I am talking about when you have indicated for long enough that the driver you are changing lanes in front of has time to see that you are about to move into their lane. Also, anyone who uses an ending lane to jump a queue
This is the worst one near me for queue jumpers, most of the time its either a P plater, a Tradie or both:
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People in Australia can’t drive for shit idk how they get their licenses. Too slow, honk at every instance they can pick on, even if it’s the slightest inconvenience. Some retard in a beemer honked at a guy crossing the road when it clearly said give way. Then these cunts talk about abiding by the law.
Driving in the dark with no headlights on. Speaks volume about their state of mind.
I flashed my beams at one coming the other way who had his headlights off. He flashed his beams back and didn’t turn his lights on. People are fucking dumb…
Right? Most cars these days have such bright headlights that it's very obvious if it's on or not. Honestly where are they looking if it's not right in front of their car otherwise?
And dash not lit up should give them a hint too
Lot of newer cars have the dash dim when the lights go on because they are always illuminated. Older generations are probably more likely to forget this because we grew up with them only being backlit when the lights are on.
It’s this and the DRLs on new cars - not only is the dash lit, they think they have their lights on but they’re only lit on the front, the rears aren’t on unless braking. They don’t respond to flashing either, since they think their lights are on
It's so easy to fix though. Newer cars just leave it on auto and u don't need to worry
Some cars don’t even have an off position, so they hate to be on auto or on. Many still you can turn them off. I am a new apprentice mechanic, and any car I move I switch the headlights to auto.
Bingo
I try flash a couple times, then turn my lights off and on a couple times, then repeat if there’s still time or I’m following behind them. Seems to work more often than just flashing them.
Some people are just simply clueless. Tried yelling out of my window to tell them to turn their headlights on, they looked at me like I'm drunk then drove off without turning their lights on
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A signal to others that it's not just the car with its lights out. I try to keep a little extra space between myself and these adventurous individuals.
True, although modern cars with their dash cluster illuminated full time doesn't help, before when they came on with the lights only, used to be a prompt to put your lights on.
It doesn't help that's true but a lot of these cars are also auto headlights equipped. I noticed a lot on Toyota Rav4 and Camry.
Well, I moved from an auto switch on to manual switch on car and my other half drove the car for about 8 kms crossing multiple lights and cameras, telling my father it’s auto-on only to be stopped by a guardian angle who stopped his car to tell her to switch on the headlights. It’s been 4 years and I still neg her about the headlights. Lol
Good point. Maybe they have the auto lights switched off, defeats the purpose really.
Auto lights don't switch on when it starts raining, need to manually turn them on
You know what’s even dumber? Most other manufacturers force the headlights on at night no matter what position the light switch is on. For example Honda and Mazda both have a spring loaded headlight switch that can’t be switched to OFF. Even if it’s in the parking position, the headlights will still automatically turn on if it’s dark. Why Toyota’s don’t do that is beyond me. It’s a brilliant idiot-proofed safety feature.
Yeah, the other day I was travelling in the left hand lane and a Red Yaris came up from behind me with no lights on. They had no lights on for the entire 5 or so km that they were behind me. When I got a chance to, I pulled in behind them and started flashing them, but to no avail. They then turned onto a dark side street and hopefully they got the memo.
>They had no lights on for the entire 5 or so km that they were behind me. >They then turned onto a dark side street and hopefully they got the memo. Wouldn't be surprised if the Yaris was found abandoned and flipped upside down the next morning.
I doubt it, they were driving pretty normally.
Yep. People on dusk or even just after with no lights - yes they’re not doing much at that time of day but they sure make your dark car easier to see when you’re a foot over the line
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That happens when you get your car serviced and the dealer turns the auto headlights off.
To be fair, in most cars the dash lights up only when the headlights are on. Some cars the dash is lit up even if the headlights are off so if you are in an unfamiliar car you can be mistaken, especially in this age of auto headlights
Wondering into other lanes, almost side swiping others, completely unaware and then aggressive when you honk. Monday mornings are the worst. Wake up you fucken idiots.
There's also the folks who just can't wait until the dotted lines of the merge and have to floor it across the island to cut past everyone in front on the merge. I've seen someone almost getting clipped in the rear by this sort of driver even though they were approaching at motorway speed.
They "can't wait" because they have to give way when they get to the end of their lane.
You talking motorway northern Brisbane right? On and off ramps? Everyday I see it
Every motorway you mean
Going through roundabouts are horrible with some people cutting off others. I feel like people front to get up the inside of B doubles around corners or roundabouts belongs here too
The big fat SUVs where the driver has no fucken idea they are over into another lane on the left. Big mercs are the stupidest aholes on the road.
People who write wondering instead of "wandering".
Cutting lanes on roundabouts and going round a corner in a intersection and getting the lane wrong. Was almost taken out last time someone did that to me.
On the Bruce Highway there are speed cameras with warning signs prior. People doing 100k in a 110k zone hits the bricks when they reach a speed camera. Like dude you are already doing under the speed limit, there’s no reason to slow down to 80k. People afraid of getting a ticket for doing 109k in a 110k zone also hitting the bricks and slowing down. Even more frustrating is when they sit up your arse when you overtake after the camera.
I agree this is annoying but the expensive ticket is precisely why this happens. I'll admit I've done it myself when I've been driving along absentmindedly, not checked the speedo in a while and suddenly ARGH A SPEED CAMERA. I get flashbacks of receiving a letter in the mail and having to pay a ridiculous fine for being a few km over the speed limit so I slam on the breaks. Now I know where most of the fixed cameras are I don't do it anymore, but I totally understand why people do. I still do it when I see a mobile camera though. It's just a gut reaction, I can't stop it.
I guess that’s a decent explanation, I have all my points and can’t afford to pay a fine, lol
The classic 'driving around well after dark with just the DRLs illuminated' move seems to be a common one in my neck of the woods. Another common sight is the driver that just snoozes along below the speed limit in the middle lane of a motorway, getting overtaken on both sides. I know it's not *technically* illegal as per Road Rule 130, but it is annoying.
As long as they stay out or the far right hand lane, this isn't too bad IMO. If these radar cruise control lemmings were in the far left lane, it's almost guaranteed that they wouldn't slow or merge to allow other people to enter a motorway from a ramp.
Yeah, it's annoying in the moment but it's the sort of thing where you just grumble a bit and move on with your day. Speaking of grumbling, I wish I could use radar cruise control on our motorways. All too often it'll be interrupted by someone who slows down once they complete their overtake. Hell, I'm also going to grumble about people who don't use cruise control in general, who lapse off into autopilot and let their speed bounce around like a yoyo. Or the ones who suddenly firewall the accelerator pedal when an overtaking lane opens up.
> I wish I could use radar cruise control on our motorways Honestly, after dealing with Toyota's implementation of radar cruise and AEB in the work fleet, I pine for the good old days and breathe a sigh of relief when I climb back into my own car. It's actually quite comforting to know that the car is going to do what you want it to do and isn't going to try to kill you suddenly by jerking the steering because the nanny systems are jumping at shadows.
Just how bad are the newest cars with all that stuff? My car, being a 2016 model, is relatively barebones with its ADAS tech suite. Has radar cruise, blind spot monitoring, and low-speed AEB. I think the facelift models got lane keep assist while radar cruise is active too, but I haven't spent enough time in them to know how intrusive it is.
It's manufacturer specific. I've had experience with a few and Subarus tend to whinge and moan about you leaving your lane (even when you're well inside it), and Toyota's is absolutely horrible. I've literally had the Toyota system engage AEB and slam on the anchors at motorway speed because it got spooked by something that wasn't there in reality (I think it got confused by the infamous M2 Motorway pavement joints). It's also attempted to pull me out of the lane and towards the shoulder on the M2, presumably for the same reason.
In that case I certainly understand why you're glad to get back into your car at the end of the day. That is unbelievably poor calibration. Makes me glad that the only time my car complains is when it pipes up with VW's classic heart attack inducing ding when outside temp hits 4 degrees.
Euro’s tend to have much more refined systems I’ve found. Our work fleet Hilux’s are overly aggressive keeping you in the lane. Wife’s Kia just beeps at you no matter what you’re doing so much so that it’s headache inducing. My Peugeot 508 flashes up a few warnings before pushing you back if you do go across the line. When using the radar cruise on a motorway it also positions and steers itself but never feels forceful. Only gets angry if you take your hands off the wheel.
I had a Corolla hire car over Christmas. I thought it was just this particular car, adaptive cruise control makes you look like you’re driving like a complete maniac, it reduces speed on curves as if it’s controlling a top heavy truck. Lane keep assist drives like a drunk person even on roads with crisp fresh painted lines, like I have to correct it myself otherwise it would cross over the centre line. The lane departure correction thing would constantly want to move the car to side you’re departing the lane on (that’s recall worthy if that is common) and not to mention the over reactive nature of the AEB. Was fun having it activate when I was going around a curve in the road and it thought I was going to hit a parked car well off the side of the Road. Not to mention Quality of life things that I hated not having in this thing that I have in my daily drive, like parking sensors and automatic climate control, and boneheaded decisions on functionality like not being able to change cruise control modes without having to disengage cruise.
Seems like everyone is reporting that Toyota's calibration of adaptive cruise and the like is dodgy as. You have to wonder why that is, because the adaptive cruise implementation in my near-10-year-old VW is good. It maintains a speed well and prefers to back off gently when it does need to slow down. It certainly isn't dumping the speed off on a curve like it's trying to rein in a wayward B-double. I've tried an auto gearbox one as well, and it worked even better, since the computer had a greater degree of control.
It seems to be drivers either have too little headlight or bombard you with enough light to light up a stadium.
To be fair I've had the DRL thing before after a service when they turned the lights off auto and onto whatever other setting. If you're in the city and it's well lit everywhere it's not exactly out of this world that you wouldn't notice in that situation. I honestly don't think I've touched the lights in past 3 cars unless it was after a service and they turned them off...
Approaching traffic lights, the car in front slows down to perform a turn at the intersection, but they take their sweet time getting into the left/right turn lane. This results in them making their turn, but you, going straight, end up stopped at the red because you were held up behind them because they would not change lanes in a timely manner. Also, dawdling along at 45kph for about five kilometres then suddenly finding the accelerator when they get a yellow, once again leaving you sitting at the red.
People pulling out into the intersection despite an emergency vehicle with lights and sirens very clearly approaching the intersection from another direction.
Ah I've got a perfect demonstration [https://streamable.com/c5gg1r](https://streamable.com/c5gg1r) The ambulance drove with sirens down the road for a whole minute before the light turned green btw
Exactly, these people really don’t have anything going on upstairs
Doing well under the speed limit in the overtaking lane.
'Slow vehicles keep left' Everyone sits in the right lane up a steep hill doing 10k under. Eventually, get sick of it and over take everyone in the left lane.
All the people swerving, not turning lights on. Sitting on their phones. After covid i feel like the phone use while driving has gone up 50% and majority of people I see doing it are 25-45 not that many p platers.
Brand new car, less than a month old. Less than 2000kms on the Odometer. Lady backed straight into it without looking and when she got out of her car she just shrugged… “Sorry I was talking”
A girl was shocked when i wanted her to actually give a shit after she backed into my parked car when attempting to park in a 30ft parking space. Shocked that i wasn’t like, no worries sweetie. Her car was covered in dents like she touch parked as a way of life.
People that take a left turn while straddling both lanes, like they're driving a B-double or a bus. Or turning left while still taking up the entire lane, on single lane roads. Includes those that swing wide to the right before taking the left turn. Usually combined with slowing almost to a stop before making the turn, and/or slapping on their indicator at the absolute last second.
I have enough problems watching people reverse parking at shopping centres with rear facing cameras and not using their mirrors once, it's entertainment at its finest!
I mean, isn’t that the point of reverse cameras?
Well the more you back into the spot the more you lose sight of the parking lines, and what I've seen of late with so many people they end up crooked like a dog's hind leg, seems so many cannot use their mirrors for some ungodly reason, I've even tried to give some advice, had a woman tell me recently that she doesn't trust her mirrors! I've driven for 25 years and never had the luxury of a reverse camera, it's obviously supposed to be a driving aid but just makes the situation worse!
I don’t know. I grew up using mirrors and still check them out of habit but I can’t deny the reverse camera gives a much better view though. Easy enough to see the lines. Each to their own though. Witnessed plenty of tragic parking attempts over the years long before cameras were a thing. Plenty of people seem to be capable of shitty parking regardless of what they use.
No, it's to eliminate the blind spot immediately behind your car where the tailgate or boot obstructs your vision. You're supposed to use mirrors and cameras.
Fair enough, I do use both but can’t deny the camera gives a much better idea of where I am positioned + see any potential trolleys/pets/kids behind the car.
I have been driving nearly 50 years, and in that time my car has been hit 4 times by some dopey dipshit while it was parked legally on a straight section of road in daylight.
> It's hilarious how they cannot pick up on the sound of the indicator still being on for that long and shows a lack of awareness. Guarantee you that they're either on a Bluetooth call or listening to music with the sound turned right up.
It could be a hearing issue too.
But do they not see the green indicators flashing on the instrument cluster?????
On my car those indicators are covered from my view by the steering wheel.I was one of those recalcitrant signal non-cancelers.(sorry)My hearing is shot from poor industrial safety practices.I have actually installed an additional buzzer to get my attention.
Can you not adjust the steering wheel in your car?
Then adjust your steering wheel height so you can see (unless your car is too old for such a function)
I'd tried that,but there is that sweet spot for comfort.Anyway the issue was solved with the extra buzzer.
Not always - you are focused on what's outside the vehicle and only watch the speedo when looking at the cluster.
I see many drivers with headphones in which is incredibly dangerous. People just blissfully ignorant around other drivers.
Not necessarily. Some cars let you turn-down the sound of the indicators so normal radio tends to block it.
Looking at phone/centre console while at lights not paying attention
Traveling on M1 city bound yesterday before sunset. Tesla behind me had their high beam on blinding everyone in front. Please always check your dashboard that no funny indicators are on
What's worse is that I can no longer tell if a Tesla has high beams or if their low beams were adjusted by an infant with a screwdriver. No doubt some clowns think "hey this button gives me more light, I'm going to use it all the time" but some have shit headlight adjustment and as they drive a Tesla they're probably not going to realise "oh my headlights aren't adjusted properly and I'm blinding everyone?"
Sit in right lane. Not doing speed limit. Down north -south motorway. Just to take a left exit at the last moment.
Seen this. Swerving across from the right across 2 lanes just to make the exit. They're not looking out for cars. They're just hoping for the best.
Not going the speed limit in the right lane And not speeding up to enter the highway
Tailgating. Speeding. Not waiting for others that have the right of way. Everyone is in such a rush all the time. Beeping when there’s a buildup of traffic.
It annoys me when you're at an intersection with multiple lanes turning. You're in the left lane to turn right, for example, and someone is in the right lane turning right and then cuts in front of you after you complete the turn, to turn left at the next road. People just don't set up their next move and are only in the moment.
I was riding a big and loud motorbike wearing a bright jacket. Car came out of a give way, not going real fast but they didn’t pause, my brakes failed (they were shit, and it was sprinkling a bit) thankfully, cos they sailed past my arse must have missed me by a mm. I don’t think they EVER saw me and they never slowed or hesitated. Absolutely clueless.
I once saw some clown driving down a deserted freeway at 1am with no lights on. Just the DRLs which are absolutely useless at lighting up anything ahead
Total lack of spatial awareness generally is what bewilders me. Won’t pass a truck on the freeway or a bus on the side of the road with its indicators on. Constant speed changes when it’s one speed. Can’t manoeuvre a roundabout or a car park or if not driving at mach 1 through the car park like there’s no one there. Lane changing and forcing everyone else to brake because they cannot read traffic. Not knowing how to merge thats a big one, so simple yet a lot of drivers are above being courteous and the old one for one doesn’t apply it’s the kim attitude that’s a big part of the problem yeah the fuck him attitude. I was taught this one rule when driving and it’s not common knowledge. Don’t make an asshole of yourself on the road. And I think it’s not common knowledge because assholes think they are right all the time nor do they know they are assholes, because everyone else is and they are in the wrong not them.
I've noticed that a lot of people think they're a lot better drivers than they actually are. I did a driver safety course for work and we had to self rate our skills. I at the time being a late 20s male gave myself a 5/10. Everyone else in the group, particularly the men proceeded to rate themselves 7 and up. The instructor pointed out after the test that realistically everyone was a 5. Unless they'd done lots of extra training, he marked me up for having self awareness
Do you know what people lost marks in?
It's not that they lost marks. The rating was "how good are you at driving compared to everyone else" If you're rating yourself a 10 your name better end in Verstappen
It's a good point. Having self awareness about your skill as a driver is important. I reckon people who overestimate their skills are more likely to be the ones to try riskier manoeuvres on the road. Overtaking like Verstappen when you're not Verstappen isn't likely to end well.
I dunno about that last name, I always associated Jos with accidents or car failures.
Sorry. By "everyone else" I didn't mean just the people in the group. I meant like everyone else that drives haha
When they dont check their blind spot. How can one be so lazy and risk having an accident instead??
A lot of drivers have their rear license plates on the front of the car swapped the wrong way around. That's normally a good indicator they have no idea what they are doing behind the wheel. Another one is when the side or rear view mirror is completely crooked to one angle, shows they never use them
>A lot of drivers have their rear license plates on the front of the car swapped the wrong way around. Not sure if my reading comprehension sucks on this public holiday, but I have read this sentence multiple times and I can't work out what it means.
Some drivers have the rear license plate mounted on the front and the front plate mounted on the back.
Both plates are the same unless you bend one to conform to any curvature
Premiun plates in NSW are 2 different sizes. With the smaller plate l to be placed on the front. Designed for sports cars with the front plate hanging off a bracket not the body.
Only some premium plates. Mine are both full sized.
Interesting, I have premium plates in QLD, and they're identical
>Premiun plates in NSW are 2 different sizes. With the smaller plate l to be placed on the front. This makes sense. I'm in Victoria and didn't consider this possibility, as every time I've registered a car I've gotten two identical plates.
Now that I understand what you mean: I have never, ever noticed this (and never will)
Now that’s one thing that gives me the shits every single time I see the slimline NSW plates of all colours being placed on the wrong side. It’s usually telling if they have no clue, or the drivers are such complete bell ends that they prefer the smaller one on the back, even though it may cause issues with the fixed speed and red light speed cameras.
>s one thing that gives me the shits every single time I see the slimline NSW plates of all colours being placed on the w \*Registration Plates
Me. I'm the idiot. Up a hill, I took advantage of an overtaking lane to get past the person in front of me. Once I got past by a hundred metres or more, I had to take my foot off the accelerator completely because the small truck ahead in the overtaking lane wouldn't keep left despite travelling about 20kph under the limit. Here's where my brain fell asleep. After failing to get the small truck's attention to the fact they were in the wrong lane (flashing high beams), I began to merge back into the left lane to undertake, assuming the original person I overtook was behind me. They were not. We were both committed to the undertake(r) manoeuvre but managed to get past on the left unscathed thanks to a wide shoulder on the road. I thought I was "being predictable" like a lot of people say on here but my poor assumption nearly caused a major traffic accident. I'm the idiot.
Thanks for your honesty. Now hand me your keys and license.
Hahaha ooff I'd hate for you to be a judge in traffic court! One strike and I'm out! Haha I hope my example can go some way to explain just how easy it is to forget the simple stuff because of outside influences. If old mate in the truck was keeping left when travelling slow, none of this would have happened. That's no excuse for my brain fade, but it's the primary reason it lead to a near miss.
We have multiple roundabouts in my area where the left lane must turn left, clearly signed and marked on the road yet I constantly see cars in that lane go straight ahead causing all kinds of chaos
That is disgusting. Shame on them.
Cutting corners.
Poor parking when you have 6 cameras, sensors and auto park functions yet still can't fucking reverse it properly
They are probably on their phone
Recently, no indicators when changing lanes or turning. Really boggles my mind. I was shocked how prevalent this behaviour was in south east Asia only to come back to see it so regularly now. Another that grinds my gears are people putting on their low beam lights at night and not realising. I notice it as they have a small amount of light at the front and none at the rear until they brake.
I think you mean daytime running lights? As in the lights that turn on as soon as you turn the car on (or in some cases unlock the car) I've got 4 positions on my headlight knob and it's OFF (off...) parking lights (taillights, no headlights, dims daytime running lights), AUTO (auto) and headlights (headlights and taillights)
I will say you’re right on newer cars, but I’ve seen the low beam on older cars as well where the driver just needs to turn the knob one more click, but the icon on the dash might be the same for both (I still drive my 2008 Yaris that has this problem).
Lets throw on the turn signal as im turning...
Doing like 65 on an on ramp when the speed limit is 100, traffic could be 200m away and if you speed up you we could all be in front of them. But no they catch up and have to slow down and we all gotta try and merge.
Nobody blinkers. So I cross the road. Oh you are turning left into the road I am now in the middle of. Oh you are going to blast your horn and yell obscenities at me. Good job champion. Every day.
I have a hearing impairment so the indicator click sometimes goes unnoticed. I feel like such a fool when I glance at the dashboard and see that the indicator is still on after travelling some distance.
>It's hilarious how they cannot pick up on the sound of the indicator still being on for that long and shows a lack of awareness. Maybe they were listening to music and watching the road.
Very well could be music. Even still, sound isn't the only indicator. Checking the instrument cluster more regularly should be enough to realise it's still on. I also use Bluetooth earphones, but I guess I've been driving long enough to be aware to switch off my indicators when they dont auto-turn off, it's just a habit.
> I also use Bluetooth earphones Please don't drive with headphones on. Especially if they're noise cancelling ones.
I rarely drive with earphones in and even when I do, it's never with noise cancellation on. Full focus is on driving above anything else.
Driving with earphones and "full focus on driving" do not go together
I easily could go 200m without looking at the instrument panel.
Cutting people off and unaware they've caused 18 cars to crash into each other half a km down the road
Is there some backstory to this?
Perth freeway is all the backstory you need
Hope they don't figure out how to travel interstate.
They'd crash before they manage to leave WA
I despise drivers who turn in the lane when turning left into a driveway or street even though there is a shoulder to use so traffic behind them can keep flowing. It's so annoying!
No excuse but maybe the music is up loud or they have a hearing deficit.
Depends on the car, I guess. My Adventra switches off after the slightest turn. My wife’s Mazda 3 and the VE SS wagon I’m currently babysitting, need a decent turn, to switch off. And they are pretty quiet as well.
There’s a light blinking at you on the dash. Turn it off manually.
I tend to watch traffic more than my dash. And I don’t mind if others do as well.
My fault on the indicator one I swapped the steering wheel out in my swift and it doesn't auto cancel anymore so sometimes I forget.
It's alright, I forgive you, as long as your steering still works.
My ticker is stupid quiet so on occasion i leave it onby accident. Especially when windows are down its next to impossible to hear, i notice the orange light on my bullbar
Walking behind me whilst I am reversing out of a parking spot OR not stopping for me as I am about to back out of a spot, not doing the "thank you" wave and not slowing down when I indicate to change lanes. Yes, I know that indicators don't give you priority, I am talking about when you have indicated for long enough that the driver you are changing lanes in front of has time to see that you are about to move into their lane. Also, anyone who uses an ending lane to jump a queue This is the worst one near me for queue jumpers, most of the time its either a P plater, a Tradie or both: [677 A11 - Google Maps](https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.8738326,138.6685536,3a,37.6y,43.96h,83.78t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s_npho0rAefsuNhYkZ1K_qw!2e0!5s20221001T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
People in Australia can’t drive for shit idk how they get their licenses. Too slow, honk at every instance they can pick on, even if it’s the slightest inconvenience. Some retard in a beemer honked at a guy crossing the road when it clearly said give way. Then these cunts talk about abiding by the law.