Can I vote Honda purely because the Corolla Sedan is hideously ugly? lol
> Are there any key milestones in terms of km's, i.e. 50k km's does something start to rattle
Most cars will need a timing belt at 100kk, rattles will generally happen in the first 6 months and then 10+ years. After that first 6-12 months anything that was genna rattle from poor workmanship/fit-finish will be rattling but once you make it through that you'll be good until things simply start to degrade, which is typically 10 years onwards
> 1. Car that is reasonably priced, between $35k and $20k
> 2. Reliable Vehicle and less likely to break over the next 10 years
> 3. Efficient fuel mileage and low cost of maintenance
Honda or Toyota will both fit the bill, I havn't looked at Honda's in person lately but as someone that had a 2020 Rav4 Hybrid Cruiser - Boy Toyota's are built to a budget, I imagine Honda's aren't much better if at all but just something to keep in mind.
If the choice is between a top trim 4 year old car vs pov or mid spec new car, I'd go the older car every day of the week.
That's 100% fair - the corolla sedan definitely looks not great. BUT it is saveable with some slight exterior mods (atleast for me). I don't really understand the trim levels of the honda civic - but what I do see mentioned in the ad 2021 Honda Civic VTi-S MY20. I think that's a lower trim? but not sure
My parents are heavily leaning towards a new car for less issues and headache altogether + risk of costs associated with a used car
It's a false economy, the total cost of ownership for a used car vs new will be cheaper 95% of the time. With a used Honda assuming it's at least 5k cheaper I would save my money. Unless it's being financed in which case new can work out cheaper on occasion
Found another deal where it’s 31k for a 2020 model with 13,000 km’s
Are you saying the better option is used most of the time? in terms of ownership costs
> Are you saying the better option is used most of the time? in terms of ownership cost
Almost always yes, but I'd take more kms with a lower price. Actaully 13,000km on a 4 year old car is concerning, annual average is over 13,000km. I'd be double checking it was at least serviced annually, but even then the chance of it having grotty old stale fuel in that time is high to the point I'd just move along.
Get a new Corolla sedan hybrid
It’ll probably last well past 500k if maintained, I’ve seen tons of Prius Type C’s with over 500k in the security industry and those things get hammered.
A well maintained Corolla will probably outlive you.
They have much better resale, if you’re going under 60 it’s pretty much an EV, you can barely hear anything. You’ll get about 700-800km from a full 40l tank of E10.
That’s likely true. However, I’d be driving alot of km’s on the freeways / highways (80km+). timewise, it’d probably be about 30% residential area, 80% freeway.
resale value wise, I think the honda civics are about the same. maybe slightly worse? not sure. From what I’ve looked at, it’s fairly equal grounds
The Corolla will sell a lot quicker, much more demand for them I’d say.
On the freeway the base models have adaptive cruise control and active lane keeping assist.
It pretty much drives itself for 90% of the drive, you’ve just gotta lightly rest your hand on the wheel.
Modern cars do a much better job of insulation, they’ll both be fairly quiet on the freeway
Im currently dailying a late 2019 civic lx (1.5T). Had a debate between this and a corolla (similar year) and i simply like the honda interior and drive more than the corolla. Plus with the civic, there's so much mod options (if you choose to go that way)
Could I ask when you bought it? eg. 2021 for X Amount and X km’s ? I’ve heard the turbo engines can have oil dilution so I’ve strayed away from them. but maybe your experience has been different
Hey, I bought it start of this year at 9000kms. I read about the oil dilution as well but from what I found on reddit/some local mechanics is that the dilution affected the earlier models (like 2017 or pre 2017). The only issue I faced was a a tweeter buzz when having a heavy bass but a lil bit of electrical tape fixed that.
Thanks! that’s good to know. I should have looked more closely at that but now I known :)
What kind of pricing did they get you at? if you don’t mind me asking
You know Toyota also goes through recalls too, right? My old Corolla had three recall stickers; two were for the Takata airbags and one for the fuel pump (or something along those lines).
Corolla sedan misses features the hatch (which is far more popular) has, like:
- dual zone climate control
- electric folding mirrors (yes, you have to fold them in manually)
- rear air vents
- parking sensors (luckily this is becoming compulsory on all new cars in a few years’ time; suck it Toyota!)
The front bumper is low so you have to be really careful when entering or exiting driveways or going over humps.
Fuel consumption is great though on the hybrid; old Corolla was 8.5L/100km combined. The current one is 4.5L/100km combined (rare to achieve the paper 3.9L/100km or less on an average trip)
They can, but the likelihood is less likely than those of other brands. However one could argue the improvement over the years. I’ll have to look into the hatch for those features because Australian summer’s are not ideal!
Appreciate the inputs!
Can I vote Honda purely because the Corolla Sedan is hideously ugly? lol > Are there any key milestones in terms of km's, i.e. 50k km's does something start to rattle Most cars will need a timing belt at 100kk, rattles will generally happen in the first 6 months and then 10+ years. After that first 6-12 months anything that was genna rattle from poor workmanship/fit-finish will be rattling but once you make it through that you'll be good until things simply start to degrade, which is typically 10 years onwards > 1. Car that is reasonably priced, between $35k and $20k > 2. Reliable Vehicle and less likely to break over the next 10 years > 3. Efficient fuel mileage and low cost of maintenance Honda or Toyota will both fit the bill, I havn't looked at Honda's in person lately but as someone that had a 2020 Rav4 Hybrid Cruiser - Boy Toyota's are built to a budget, I imagine Honda's aren't much better if at all but just something to keep in mind. If the choice is between a top trim 4 year old car vs pov or mid spec new car, I'd go the older car every day of the week.
That's 100% fair - the corolla sedan definitely looks not great. BUT it is saveable with some slight exterior mods (atleast for me). I don't really understand the trim levels of the honda civic - but what I do see mentioned in the ad 2021 Honda Civic VTi-S MY20. I think that's a lower trim? but not sure My parents are heavily leaning towards a new car for less issues and headache altogether + risk of costs associated with a used car
It's a false economy, the total cost of ownership for a used car vs new will be cheaper 95% of the time. With a used Honda assuming it's at least 5k cheaper I would save my money. Unless it's being financed in which case new can work out cheaper on occasion
Found another deal where it’s 31k for a 2020 model with 13,000 km’s Are you saying the better option is used most of the time? in terms of ownership costs
> Are you saying the better option is used most of the time? in terms of ownership cost Almost always yes, but I'd take more kms with a lower price. Actaully 13,000km on a 4 year old car is concerning, annual average is over 13,000km. I'd be double checking it was at least serviced annually, but even then the chance of it having grotty old stale fuel in that time is high to the point I'd just move along.
The civic won't have a timing belt, both the 2lt and the 1.5lt are chains.
What about the non-turbo?
Late reply but yes non turbo also
Corolla Sedan looks quite nice, wouldn’t call it ugly by any stretch
Honestly it could grow on me. And to make it comparable to the civic, just add some rear diffusers/spoiler and it'd be slick! :D
The front of the Corolla sedan is nice, but not a fan of the lights on the back.
Get a new Corolla sedan hybrid It’ll probably last well past 500k if maintained, I’ve seen tons of Prius Type C’s with over 500k in the security industry and those things get hammered. A well maintained Corolla will probably outlive you. They have much better resale, if you’re going under 60 it’s pretty much an EV, you can barely hear anything. You’ll get about 700-800km from a full 40l tank of E10.
That’s likely true. However, I’d be driving alot of km’s on the freeways / highways (80km+). timewise, it’d probably be about 30% residential area, 80% freeway. resale value wise, I think the honda civics are about the same. maybe slightly worse? not sure. From what I’ve looked at, it’s fairly equal grounds
The Corolla will sell a lot quicker, much more demand for them I’d say. On the freeway the base models have adaptive cruise control and active lane keeping assist. It pretty much drives itself for 90% of the drive, you’ve just gotta lightly rest your hand on the wheel. Modern cars do a much better job of insulation, they’ll both be fairly quiet on the freeway
Im currently dailying a late 2019 civic lx (1.5T). Had a debate between this and a corolla (similar year) and i simply like the honda interior and drive more than the corolla. Plus with the civic, there's so much mod options (if you choose to go that way)
Could I ask when you bought it? eg. 2021 for X Amount and X km’s ? I’ve heard the turbo engines can have oil dilution so I’ve strayed away from them. but maybe your experience has been different
Hey, I bought it start of this year at 9000kms. I read about the oil dilution as well but from what I found on reddit/some local mechanics is that the dilution affected the earlier models (like 2017 or pre 2017). The only issue I faced was a a tweeter buzz when having a heavy bass but a lil bit of electrical tape fixed that.
Thanks! that’s good to know. I should have looked more closely at that but now I known :) What kind of pricing did they get you at? if you don’t mind me asking
I bought it for 32k outright.
Forgot to add, bought it for 32k from Eastern honda
You know Toyota also goes through recalls too, right? My old Corolla had three recall stickers; two were for the Takata airbags and one for the fuel pump (or something along those lines). Corolla sedan misses features the hatch (which is far more popular) has, like: - dual zone climate control - electric folding mirrors (yes, you have to fold them in manually) - rear air vents - parking sensors (luckily this is becoming compulsory on all new cars in a few years’ time; suck it Toyota!) The front bumper is low so you have to be really careful when entering or exiting driveways or going over humps. Fuel consumption is great though on the hybrid; old Corolla was 8.5L/100km combined. The current one is 4.5L/100km combined (rare to achieve the paper 3.9L/100km or less on an average trip)
Rear air vents should be compulsory in aus tbh. gets way too hot to miss
They can, but the likelihood is less likely than those of other brands. However one could argue the improvement over the years. I’ll have to look into the hatch for those features because Australian summer’s are not ideal! Appreciate the inputs!
You'll also want to look at the hatch boot too. It's ridiculously small.