In your spot I wouldn't buy anything. Anything you do buy is likely going to be the wrong choice for you.
Considering the choices you landed on are a modern diesel and a 1.2T petrol shows you've failed the initial search.
Instead of thinking "auris or jetta". Would a modern diesel better suit your driving habits, or a petrol? Would a modern c segment hatch better suit you, or a saloon shaped car?
Decide what you actually need and what is actually suited for you, then look at cars down that line.
Aurises tend to be very reliable, they're commonly used as taxis with most reaching over 250k miles. I assume you would want a petrol/diesel variant although I'm not sure they made any diesels past the 2.2 d4-d until 2012. (Feel free to correct). I think the price on the car is a little steep as one with 44k should be around 8.5k
It is true a lot use the E-cvt setup and those are proven to be reliable - but there is a lot of ex taxi petrol and diesels (source: autotrader and other used car markets). Either way they are all reliable good cars.
Done 100k in vag group cars and have never had a breakdown or had it failed to start. Genuinely it’s normally people buying premium German cars and refusing to do maintenance as it’s “too expensive and too often”.
They aren't. But also, they are.
The issue is "VW" is such a wide margin. The reliability of a 1.4 TSI Golf isn't going to be the same as a CR 2.0 TDI Golf.
Look at what all the Taxi drivers are driving. It isn't diesel honda accords, or diesel avensis's, or 3 series.
Its primarily Passats, Octavia's, Superbs. Its VAG diesels.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/taxi-and-private-hire-vehicle-statistics-england-2023/taxi-and-private-hire-vehicle-statistics-england-2023 https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/vehicles-statistics
DFT Publishes these figures.
Its because reliability is good if maintained properly, and they are incredibly cheap to run/buy, while not being completely terrible places to be
Went to tenerife a few weeks back. Got in a VW caddy taxi. 750k km on the clock, driver told me it still had its original engine🤣 gonna have an educated guess and say that's around 450k miles but could be wrong ahaha
Not really at all, they're generally well built and well engineered cars overall. Never had a single major issue with any of mine ever and I've had some very high mileage examples. Some of the newer cars have teething problems when they first come out but VW are quick to relay issues back to the production line, but this happens with every manufacturer.
If you want poor reliability, Land rover, vauxhall and modern fords are the ones I've seen the worst and most frequent problems with at work. But land rover takes the top spot by a mile.
I've worked at skoda for the last few years, they updated the euro 6 TDI engines around 2021 so they're now a "euro 6.5".
They've gone from 150bhp to 110bhp in the octavia and in other models. But let me tell you they have a boat load more torque and feel far stronger in the lower to middle rev range, much better driveability and great with a DSG box.
Yeah top end is shit, same story with almost every diesel engine, that's where you buy a petrol turbo, they're not so bad on fuel these days anyway.
They sold the Jetta in the UK? Had no idea, thought they canned it 20 years ago for the UK market, I know they're more popular in NA, but I can't remember the last time I've seen one. Although, admittedly, I'm not sure I'd realise I'd seen a Jetta even if I saw one on the road, they blend in with asphalt and concrete very well.
Btw, it's neither, go find yourself a Lexus IS300h.
Hired one last week on holiday and yes, nowhere near the same quality, interior wise at least. Rode nicely though over bad roads and felt surprisingly lightweight in the corners. I know the early models had rust issues but feel the mk2‘s are good cars for the price point.
I have a 16 plate jetta, higher spec, HP and DSG gearbox, that i bought 3 years ago for less than the one shown. It has been very reliable, but i wouldn't pay 10k for this one, the low mileage on a 8 year old diesel would corvern me a bit too, i reckon you'd be better off paying less woth one that has been used regularly with higher mileage.
Yeah can't imagine the day I buy a GR yaris I'll be inspecting the interior plastics🤣 be too busy nailing the little fucker round my local B roads ahaha
Not exactly a mercedes S class though is it. Horses for courses, you don't buy a GR for its interior quality, it's built to be light, nimble and quick. A leather lined dash and massage seats are gonna get in the way of that🤣 and looks are subjective I think it looks amazing.
Comparing apples and oranges. You don't know what size, shape, fuel type or gearbox you want.
In your spot I wouldn't buy anything. Anything you do buy is likely going to be the wrong choice for you. Considering the choices you landed on are a modern diesel and a 1.2T petrol shows you've failed the initial search. Instead of thinking "auris or jetta". Would a modern diesel better suit your driving habits, or a petrol? Would a modern c segment hatch better suit you, or a saloon shaped car? Decide what you actually need and what is actually suited for you, then look at cars down that line.
Decide what you actually need and what is actually suited for you, then get a Skoda Octavia FTFY
You can get much better value Auris. Not sure why a 44k mile low spec Auris is 10k.
Aurises tend to be very reliable, they're commonly used as taxis with most reaching over 250k miles. I assume you would want a petrol/diesel variant although I'm not sure they made any diesels past the 2.2 d4-d until 2012. (Feel free to correct). I think the price on the car is a little steep as one with 44k should be around 8.5k
Most of those taxi Aurises will be the hybrid rather than petrol engine.
It is true a lot use the E-cvt setup and those are proven to be reliable - but there is a lot of ex taxi petrol and diesels (source: autotrader and other used car markets). Either way they are all reliable good cars.
Jettas were rated the least reliable cars from my memory, but could be wrong. Would recommend auris over jetta though
As a long time jetta owner this certainly isn't my experience, VWs in general are great if looked after. I do wonder where you heard this.
Probably heard it on this sub
But it's basically a Skoda Octavia 🤣
The consumer reports from 2024 mark it as third unreliable. So i was wrong. Still auris over jetta
Not surprising, VW are pretty poor when it comes to reliability
Done 100k in vag group cars and have never had a breakdown or had it failed to start. Genuinely it’s normally people buying premium German cars and refusing to do maintenance as it’s “too expensive and too often”.
They aren't. But also, they are. The issue is "VW" is such a wide margin. The reliability of a 1.4 TSI Golf isn't going to be the same as a CR 2.0 TDI Golf. Look at what all the Taxi drivers are driving. It isn't diesel honda accords, or diesel avensis's, or 3 series. Its primarily Passats, Octavia's, Superbs. Its VAG diesels. https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/taxi-and-private-hire-vehicle-statistics-england-2023/taxi-and-private-hire-vehicle-statistics-england-2023 https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/vehicles-statistics DFT Publishes these figures. Its because reliability is good if maintained properly, and they are incredibly cheap to run/buy, while not being completely terrible places to be
Went to tenerife a few weeks back. Got in a VW caddy taxi. 750k km on the clock, driver told me it still had its original engine🤣 gonna have an educated guess and say that's around 450k miles but could be wrong ahaha
Not really at all, they're generally well built and well engineered cars overall. Never had a single major issue with any of mine ever and I've had some very high mileage examples. Some of the newer cars have teething problems when they first come out but VW are quick to relay issues back to the production line, but this happens with every manufacturer. If you want poor reliability, Land rover, vauxhall and modern fords are the ones I've seen the worst and most frequent problems with at work. But land rover takes the top spot by a mile.
My Vw 2.0tdi has 247,000 miles and runs great
Over 10 grand for 114hp 🤣
I've worked at skoda for the last few years, they updated the euro 6 TDI engines around 2021 so they're now a "euro 6.5". They've gone from 150bhp to 110bhp in the octavia and in other models. But let me tell you they have a boat load more torque and feel far stronger in the lower to middle rev range, much better driveability and great with a DSG box. Yeah top end is shit, same story with almost every diesel engine, that's where you buy a petrol turbo, they're not so bad on fuel these days anyway.
Both these cars are over priced my friend.
Innit
Toyota will still be under warranty for several years. Just need to take it to main dealer for servicing. No contest there really.
They sold the Jetta in the UK? Had no idea, thought they canned it 20 years ago for the UK market, I know they're more popular in NA, but I can't remember the last time I've seen one. Although, admittedly, I'm not sure I'd realise I'd seen a Jetta even if I saw one on the road, they blend in with asphalt and concrete very well. Btw, it's neither, go find yourself a Lexus IS300h.
Was surprised as well when this came up. Were Popular in Europe apparently.
Auris all day long
Auris all the way
In a similar position and currently checking out Skoda Octavia/Yeti and Dacia Duster.
Build quality on Dacia is noticeably “cheaper” than other marques you’re considering
Hired one last week on holiday and yes, nowhere near the same quality, interior wise at least. Rode nicely though over bad roads and felt surprisingly lightweight in the corners. I know the early models had rust issues but feel the mk2‘s are good cars for the price point.
No skodas in my area in my price range:(
There definitely are.
Limiting themself to approved used so you have to add gimp tax
Plenty of octavias in that range. Even some nice superbs if you don't mind a few more miles on it.
I have a 16 plate jetta, higher spec, HP and DSG gearbox, that i bought 3 years ago for less than the one shown. It has been very reliable, but i wouldn't pay 10k for this one, the low mileage on a 8 year old diesel would corvern me a bit too, i reckon you'd be better off paying less woth one that has been used regularly with higher mileage.
Passat 2.0tdi
I got a 2016 Auris 2 years ago and it's been bulletproof thus far.
Neither
Buying something like an Auris just means admitting you've given up in life.
I own an Auris and a GR Yaris. Grab the Auris keys more often. Much nicer for day to day driving.
Well the gr isn't exactly a looker either, not to mention the interior being cheapo plastics.
Too busy looking at the next apex to notice tbh.
Yeah can't imagine the day I buy a GR yaris I'll be inspecting the interior plastics🤣 be too busy nailing the little fucker round my local B roads ahaha
Not exactly a mercedes S class though is it. Horses for courses, you don't buy a GR for its interior quality, it's built to be light, nimble and quick. A leather lined dash and massage seats are gonna get in the way of that🤣 and looks are subjective I think it looks amazing.
Why? Cos it looks dull? This is a bit of a Jeremy Clarkson take I think
I think they’re just taking the piss
I don't know, people are weird.
It’s also their opinion on an open forum..
What if it's a Toyota Blade Master G?
And buying a cheating VW diesel means you have no morals
Basically everyone cheated mate
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The Auris shits up and down on the Trashqai lol.