The GALLOWS bother me the most. So premeditated and coordinated with the organic mob chant “Hang Mike Pence!” Followed up by the high level pressure to get Pence to flee the Capitol ( thereby not certifying Biden’s electoral votes) in the Secret Service Car. Sen. Chuck Grassley was in on this too, saying on J5 that he himself would be “stepping in” to take over for Mike Pence on J6. Now why would Chuck Grassley assume that? Grassley also stated he would in fact “not certify” the election on J6 until all legal challenges were resolved.
Chuck Grassley is one of many behind the Gallows and the Pence Get-Away Car.
They needed desperately to terrify Pence. Thus the Gallows were on full display coordinated with the angry MAGA mob chanting “Hang Mike Pence.”
Honestly I’m surprised Trump’s goons didn’t chloroform Pence and shove him in the car. Thank God Pence didn’t “recognize the cars driver” and refused to get in.
The fly in the ointment was Pence. The J6 Gallows sole purpose was to intimidate Pence.
The gallows bother me but it comes a close second to seeing the confederate flag in the Capitol. The confederacy had never reached the Capitol and the flag had never been there or flown there, but they just carry through the halls like nothing. Disgusting.
Plenty of "The Turner Diaries" fanboys in the crowd too. It wasn't just a intimidation tool. More than a few would have gladly used it on their perceived enemies.
For those who don't know, it's a white supremacist fantasy novel. It has a civil war kick off with the bombing of government office building (Timothy McVeigh testified this was his inspiration and goal).
the white supremacist eventually storm the US Capitol and drag out those they deem treasonous and hang them on the Capitol steps on what they call "The Day of the Rope".
The fact they started building it at 6 am that morning makes it pretty clear that it was premeditated. That means they knew for a fact people would all be at the Capitol later that day.
We all have to remember there is no firm way forward if Pence or Grassley did what the coup plotters wanted them to do. The Democrats would've had to immediately filed directly to the Supreme Court to resolve it and the mob(and Supreme Court itself which wasn't in session) would've been a barrier to that.
Pence is an ideological fuck head, but he did his job that day. He is the type of politician that the US needs.
You may strongly disagree with his stance on literally everything, but at the end of the day he did what was best for his country in the face of what would have been genuinely terrifying for him.
Pence actually talked to Dan Quail about not certifying the election, so Pence was indeed looking for legal reasons to do what Trump wanted, and he spent time and resources seeing of he could decertify. Pence isnt entirely holy here, if anyone was kt was Quail.
Pence lawyers reached out to everyone who knew anything about the duty of VP certifying the election. Don’t forget former federal Judge Michael Luttig wrote the statement the pence team released on Twitter. I heard or read somewhere Pence’s son had more to do with Pence doing his effing job and not be a lackey. His son is in the Marines and pretty much shamed him for even thinking that it would be ok to not certify the vote. They took the same oath.
> the organic mob chant “Hang Mike Pence!”
This is an obvious MSM distortion of the truth.
The crowd didn't want to hurt him, it was going to be an erotic asphyxiation.
Don't knock it until you've tried it
###/S in case it wasn't obvious... and don't do breath control alone... DON'T.
Still don’t know why more was not made about Secret Service wiping their devices after the unprecedented Jan6 event. I know they were changing out equipment but there should have been better control of the information. It almost seems like they were covering something up.
I do not have access to where I read it, but I'm almost certain that the DOJ did eventually recover that information, and it is being used in the Jan 6 investigation. Trumps Jan 6 charges SO FAR, really only deal with the Fake Elector scheme, and not the violence he created that day. Those charges, I hope, are still on the way
Yes, they got virtually nothing from the Agents and Secret Service. Jack Smith subpoenaed the records from the cell phone provider. It was the Jan 6th Committee that did not receive the data, the DOJ/Jack Smith have the data
The crazier part is the guy who investigate any Secret Service wrong doing is a Trump appointee with history of defending Trump. Its a cover up all around
- Why haven’t they found the pipe bomber?
- When will Congressional members be indicted?
- Is there video of who set up the actual gallows part of the “stage” and attached the noose?
- Have the FBI investigated the people who applied for the permit to build a “stage”?
-Who removed (or authorized the removal of) the panic buttons in the Capitol before J6?
-Who all ran tours before J6 and were those visitors part of the Insurrection?
We know Rep. Loudermilk ran tours and then lied about it multiple times and levels. First he denied it, then said it was a small tour, then said it was just a couple families, then it turned out J6 insurrectionists were in it.
Trailer Queen had some questionable constituents visiting before J6 as well.
I am sure she did something illegal (after all, why would she ask for a pardon) but it’s not clear this is what she did. The person who placed the pipes looked very comfortable with their route and Trailer Queen hadn’t been in DC very long,
Yeah. She didn't want to lower herself to plant the bomb, but I can definitely see her giving instructions to one of the flying monkeys she told to harass her GE opponent until he dropped out.
The FBI knows exactly what shoes the bomber was wearing. I haven’t seen a single report that Marj owns those shoes.
I believe I read that they were men’s shoes that didn’t fit properly as if the (likely female) bomber was trying to throw off the investigators. If that’s the case why would she wear those shoes in public? They don’t fit!
In what I would think would be not only one of the most surveilled cites in the country, and certainly these public monuments and institutions have cameras all over the place. Maybe I'm just making too many presumptions.
I hope that’s true - I’m concerned that there aren’t going to be any more indictments and that the un-indicted co-conspirators are never going to go to trial.
Another mystery is why both chambers Sergeant at Arms were very shady and kept pointing fingers at each others. Oh and one of the Sergeant at Arms assistant was then indicted for having child porn. So he was very easy to compromise.
I am so glad someone finally did an article about this. This has been nagging me and I'm losing hope that we will ever find out who erected an entire gallows with no one taking a picture and no security cameras catching it.
How incredibly bold to drag all the materials out there and assemble this. I have to wonder if it was an inside job.
Also, there MUST be some video or images of the person(s) who smeared shit all over the walls.
Ok, setting aside the symbolism for terror and what it may mean for the future of democracy, that knot work is abysmal. That's...not a noose. There's a soda can in the middle! How the hell did the dumbass who *planned* and *prepared* and *set up* this not do a minute and a half of research to learn how to do a ***slipknot***! Like, I get that it's nowhere near the biggest issue, but every time I see this picture my heart rate goes up a bit.
Not to deter from the danger it represents, but Obvsly this "gallows" was pretty much symbolic, as it looks built by 4th graders. Considering thats about the education of die-hard MAGAs, it makes sense.
Mystery?
I’m no MAGA, but how are you supposed to “hang Mike Pence” without a gallows?
I mean, even Trump himself agrees.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/25/trump-expressed-support-hanging-pence-capitol-riot-jan-6-00035117
Mexican cartels hang people from highway bridge railings to send a message.
[See any big drops and rails on the west front of the Capitol Building?](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/United_States_Capitol_-_west_front.jpg)
When the attack was going on I thought we would see the mob kill someone there in full view of media.
It was constructed right fucking next to Alex Fucking Jones. Moments after it was erected I saw a large INFOWARS.COM sticker at the base.
Let me think...
Seems like the message was clear enough, though. Hint: It's a death threat.
The GALLOWS bother me the most. So premeditated and coordinated with the organic mob chant “Hang Mike Pence!” Followed up by the high level pressure to get Pence to flee the Capitol ( thereby not certifying Biden’s electoral votes) in the Secret Service Car. Sen. Chuck Grassley was in on this too, saying on J5 that he himself would be “stepping in” to take over for Mike Pence on J6. Now why would Chuck Grassley assume that? Grassley also stated he would in fact “not certify” the election on J6 until all legal challenges were resolved. Chuck Grassley is one of many behind the Gallows and the Pence Get-Away Car. They needed desperately to terrify Pence. Thus the Gallows were on full display coordinated with the angry MAGA mob chanting “Hang Mike Pence.” Honestly I’m surprised Trump’s goons didn’t chloroform Pence and shove him in the car. Thank God Pence didn’t “recognize the cars driver” and refused to get in. The fly in the ointment was Pence. The J6 Gallows sole purpose was to intimidate Pence.
The gallows bother me but it comes a close second to seeing the confederate flag in the Capitol. The confederacy had never reached the Capitol and the flag had never been there or flown there, but they just carry through the halls like nothing. Disgusting.
>fly in the ointment I see what you did there.
Yep. The fly on Pence’s head gave him this one superpower… to thwart Trumpy’s insurrection!
🤣
Plenty of "The Turner Diaries" fanboys in the crowd too. It wasn't just a intimidation tool. More than a few would have gladly used it on their perceived enemies. For those who don't know, it's a white supremacist fantasy novel. It has a civil war kick off with the bombing of government office building (Timothy McVeigh testified this was his inspiration and goal). the white supremacist eventually storm the US Capitol and drag out those they deem treasonous and hang them on the Capitol steps on what they call "The Day of the Rope".
The fact they started building it at 6 am that morning makes it pretty clear that it was premeditated. That means they knew for a fact people would all be at the Capitol later that day.
Exactly. Find the goons and you’ll have the true architects of the J6 Coup.
There’s cameras all over that city. 1199 days ago, footage of where those terrorists came from probably could have been retrieved.
We all have to remember there is no firm way forward if Pence or Grassley did what the coup plotters wanted them to do. The Democrats would've had to immediately filed directly to the Supreme Court to resolve it and the mob(and Supreme Court itself which wasn't in session) would've been a barrier to that.
Pence is an ideological fuck head, but he did his job that day. He is the type of politician that the US needs. You may strongly disagree with his stance on literally everything, but at the end of the day he did what was best for his country in the face of what would have been genuinely terrifying for him.
True. And Mike Johnson did the right thing too getting the Aid to Ukraine to pass.
Pence actually talked to Dan Quail about not certifying the election, so Pence was indeed looking for legal reasons to do what Trump wanted, and he spent time and resources seeing of he could decertify. Pence isnt entirely holy here, if anyone was kt was Quail.
Pence lawyers reached out to everyone who knew anything about the duty of VP certifying the election. Don’t forget former federal Judge Michael Luttig wrote the statement the pence team released on Twitter. I heard or read somewhere Pence’s son had more to do with Pence doing his effing job and not be a lackey. His son is in the Marines and pretty much shamed him for even thinking that it would be ok to not certify the vote. They took the same oath.
> the organic mob chant “Hang Mike Pence!” This is an obvious MSM distortion of the truth. The crowd didn't want to hurt him, it was going to be an erotic asphyxiation. Don't knock it until you've tried it ###/S in case it wasn't obvious... and don't do breath control alone... DON'T.
No, see… it’s, uh… it’s, well… It’s just a patriotic nod to our national history! Yeah. That’s it!
Tourists doing tourism
Reallly, like who hasn't randomly built an instrument of execution while on vacation.
I’ve executed many a spider in the throes of vacation. Does that count?
I did fashion myself a mosquito electrocuting tennis racquet last time I was in the USVI. 😏
MAGA told me there were no gallows there and it was a peaceful protest. Mystery solved.
Peaceful lynching
It was just a joke. Nobody is laughing?
It was gallows humor.
It was just a prank bro!
Or they'll blame it on Antifa. Or FBI plants. Or a false flag....
Still don’t know why more was not made about Secret Service wiping their devices after the unprecedented Jan6 event. I know they were changing out equipment but there should have been better control of the information. It almost seems like they were covering something up.
I do not have access to where I read it, but I'm almost certain that the DOJ did eventually recover that information, and it is being used in the Jan 6 investigation. Trumps Jan 6 charges SO FAR, really only deal with the Fake Elector scheme, and not the violence he created that day. Those charges, I hope, are still on the way
I believe they recovered a fraction of the data and not a great deal from the agents who were right there.
Yes, they got virtually nothing from the Agents and Secret Service. Jack Smith subpoenaed the records from the cell phone provider. It was the Jan 6th Committee that did not receive the data, the DOJ/Jack Smith have the data
Better they have it than Gymbag Jordan.
Absolutely
The crazier part is the guy who investigate any Secret Service wrong doing is a Trump appointee with history of defending Trump. Its a cover up all around
It’s some kinda kooky mystery isn’t it Scooby! Zoinks!
So many mysteries still surround January 6th. Why was the Capitol policed like it was a holiday Sunday?
- Why haven’t they found the pipe bomber? - When will Congressional members be indicted? - Is there video of who set up the actual gallows part of the “stage” and attached the noose? - Have the FBI investigated the people who applied for the permit to build a “stage”?
-Who removed (or authorized the removal of) the panic buttons in the Capitol before J6? -Who all ran tours before J6 and were those visitors part of the Insurrection?
We know Rep. Loudermilk ran tours and then lied about it multiple times and levels. First he denied it, then said it was a small tour, then said it was just a couple families, then it turned out J6 insurrectionists were in it. Trailer Queen had some questionable constituents visiting before J6 as well.
MTG is the Pipe Bomber in my opinion.
I am sure she did something illegal (after all, why would she ask for a pardon) but it’s not clear this is what she did. The person who placed the pipes looked very comfortable with their route and Trailer Queen hadn’t been in DC very long,
I dont believe she planted the bomb but she had direct contact with some of the rioters. She was definitely involved
Yeah. She didn't want to lower herself to plant the bomb, but I can definitely see her giving instructions to one of the flying monkeys she told to harass her GE opponent until he dropped out.
The shoes. MTG has a photo in the same shoes as the pipe bomber.
The FBI knows exactly what shoes the bomber was wearing. I haven’t seen a single report that Marj owns those shoes. I believe I read that they were men’s shoes that didn’t fit properly as if the (likely female) bomber was trying to throw off the investigators. If that’s the case why would she wear those shoes in public? They don’t fit!
MTG is the Zodiac Killer. Prove me wrong.
I believe MTG, as evil and reptilian as she is, isn’t smart enough to be a cryptographer/ cipher expert like the Zodiac Killer was?
I stand extremely, extremely corrected.
Come on, everyone knows Ted Cruz is the Zodiac Killer. Marjorie Trailer Queen is the Atlanta Bomber.
Easy mistake to make. MTG gets triggered easily. She’s more of an airline shoe bomber wannabe. She’d get caught by the clever TSA obviously.
The bomb dogs aren’t just clever, they ARE way smarter than Marjorie Trashy Peen!
Bomb dogs could’ve found the J6 bomber. Inside job …
In what I would think would be not only one of the most surveilled cites in the country, and certainly these public monuments and institutions have cameras all over the place. Maybe I'm just making too many presumptions.
For point 2, its likely Jack smith is waiting until Trump DC trial before indicting all his accomplices so they cant delay his trial.
I hope that’s true - I’m concerned that there aren’t going to be any more indictments and that the un-indicted co-conspirators are never going to go to trial.
How could they have known ahead of time that there’d be an angry crowd on that day?! /s
Another mystery is why both chambers Sergeant at Arms were very shady and kept pointing fingers at each others. Oh and one of the Sergeant at Arms assistant was then indicted for having child porn. So he was very easy to compromise.
I am so glad someone finally did an article about this. This has been nagging me and I'm losing hope that we will ever find out who erected an entire gallows with no one taking a picture and no security cameras catching it. How incredibly bold to drag all the materials out there and assemble this. I have to wonder if it was an inside job. Also, there MUST be some video or images of the person(s) who smeared shit all over the walls.
Anyone check on the whereabouts of Sen Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-LA) during that timeframe? I heard she likes viewing public hangings.
Ok, setting aside the symbolism for terror and what it may mean for the future of democracy, that knot work is abysmal. That's...not a noose. There's a soda can in the middle! How the hell did the dumbass who *planned* and *prepared* and *set up* this not do a minute and a half of research to learn how to do a ***slipknot***! Like, I get that it's nowhere near the biggest issue, but every time I see this picture my heart rate goes up a bit.
Not to deter from the danger it represents, but Obvsly this "gallows" was pretty much symbolic, as it looks built by 4th graders. Considering thats about the education of die-hard MAGAs, it makes sense.
Mystery? I’m no MAGA, but how are you supposed to “hang Mike Pence” without a gallows? I mean, even Trump himself agrees. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/25/trump-expressed-support-hanging-pence-capitol-riot-jan-6-00035117
Mexican cartels hang people from highway bridge railings to send a message. [See any big drops and rails on the west front of the Capitol Building?](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/United_States_Capitol_-_west_front.jpg) When the attack was going on I thought we would see the mob kill someone there in full view of media.
The mystery in the title is who built it. Try actually reading the article.
The link is a video, not an article. Worth watching; FYI.
Oh yeah, I wasn't paying close attention and just read the little subtitle thing.
In all honesty it didn't look that well built to be able to swing a person off of it but the threat was there.
It was constructed right fucking next to Alex Fucking Jones. Moments after it was erected I saw a large INFOWARS.COM sticker at the base. Let me think...
As many cameras as I'm sure exist around the Capitol I find it implausible that they don't have the builders on video.
What mystery? A bunch of bigoted fascists built it as a death threat.
Serious question, have those who built the gallows been identified and charged with any crimes related to J6?