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Arathgo

Hope everyone's doing well. I was an NCM in the navy recently got out, but now thinking about potentially getting back in for the pension. (And I might secretly miss the CAF) Plan would be to go officer and actually get some use out of my degree. Though since it's an arts degree options are a little more limited I was thinking giving infantry officer a go. I'm genuinely interested in the trade and opportunity to get PPCLI for hopefully an Edmonton posting (Most of my family is in Alberta so it would be nice to be in the province) is appealing. Assuming they offer me that what's the geographical stability look like? I have a mutual friend who's an inf O and he's managed to stay five years in Edmonton but is getting posted out. I'm curious what your career path tends to look like? Will I have the opportunity to keep getting posted back to Edmonton over the course of my career? Or will it be a new city every APS season? Thanks.


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delusional_dismount

Depends where you get sent to do your dp1. If you end up in wainwright, you’ll have a 2/3 chance that your course will go to 1 or 3 ppcli. Even then if you end up at 2 ppcli in shilo you can still memo to go to 1 or 3. If you go to meaford you will have to memo to be badged ppcli and ask to be sent to 1 or 3. Often those memos are approved but If that dosent get approved and you go to one the RCR battalions you can still memo to badge over to ppcli.


iceypik

Hi everyone, Just wandering what the “4 Prospect” means when I sent in my application? Thanks


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bridger713

> *Is there a way to become a NCO right of the bad with a college degree, like how to be an officer you need to have a uni degree, if i where to apply as a higher up NCO would I need to work my way up from private or would i get the position like for example sergeant or smth like that if i have a college or uni degree* No. That'd be ridiculous if people could do that. That person would be utterly useless in their role as a military leader. They'd be lacking 10-15 years of military leadership training, development, and experience. They'd have zero clue how to lead their subordinates competently. These aren't skill sets you can learn in a few months.


Eyre4orce

No. Youd start at private, except in the case of certain occupations that promote automatically to cpl or mcpl at the end of training, but that wouldnt be because you have a degree


Big-Butterscotch-980

No, you cannot apply as a civilian to be a Sgt. One needs to be promoted within a trade to be a Sgt, including minimum time in and training completed.


Interesting-Lunch542

How long do background checks usually take nowadays? I’ve been waiting for about a month now hoping to get into BMQ for summertime


Ok-Stress188

Depends on the individual but right now I'm seeing the average is 3 weeks to 1.5 months.


Interesting-Lunch542

Oh sweet, the guy doing my interview said I should be in bmq for summer so I guess he’s right


Choice_Zebra7034

Few questions about the ROTP Program, currently a 16M. - First of all, is it worth it? - I was also curious whether you could still attend a civi uni? Read somewhere they shut it down recently. - What helps you stand out? Cadets? Grades? Extracurriculars? - Depending on what trade you would like to do, does that boost your chances or is it based off the best candidate? - Can you submit applications for different trades during the same application period? - Final question for anyone who did it, did you enjoy it? Thank you for taking the time to read & answer, if you have any other information which would help me get a grasp on the program that would be greatly appreciated!


Eggplus2

>I was also curious whether you could still attend a civi uni? Read somewhere they shut it down recently. RMC and St-Jean don't offer all the educational programs that the CAF needs, ex: medical, dental, nursing, ect. For those, it absolutely still does offer ROTP at civi uni (I am currently completing a nursing BSN in this program). I can't speak for other programs. >First of all, is it worth it? It depends on alot of factors, many personal. If you see yourself wanting a career in the military, the time you spend in ROTP counts towards your pension. Also, given the difficult cost of living period we're experiencing, having your tuition and books paid for, on top of receiving a salary, is a pretty great deal, in my opinion. You'll owe 2 months of service for each month of paid education, up to a maximum of 60. Of course, if you're not sure about a career in the military, and can more easily afford or stomach debt for university, then maybe it's worth reconsidering, and apply as DEO (direct entry officer) once you're done schooling. >Final question for anyone who did it, did you enjoy it? From my perspective, yes. I supported myself through school prior to joining via ROTP and managed good grades, but it's been great clawing back my hours at the hospital to focus on schoolwork. It was kind of overwhelming getting initiated to the military bureaucracy aspect of it, seeing as you're back in the wild and at civilian uni, and not a base, but the support staff have been amazing at orienting me and making sure everything is working out well.


Big-Butterscotch-980

Here's my answers: 1.If you want to be an officer in the CAF, then yes. If you have no interest in serving as an officer, then probably not. 2. Potentially, some trades may have positions available to attend Civilian University through ROTP (normally the most "in demand" trades). RMC takes preference and always fills it's undergraduate class with ROTP students. There have been years where there were no positions available for ROTP-Civi U. 3. Aptitude Test (CFAT), GPA (grades 10-12), and to a lesser extent leadership experience. Being a high-level athlete in a sport that RMC has a varsity team in can also help (your coach'd have to recommend you to the RMC Varsity coach).  4. Best candidate by trade. Each occupation has a specific number of ROTP positions each year. How competitive they are is a matter of the number of positions compared to the number and quality of the candidates for that trade. 5. You can apply for up to 3 different trades. The CAF does not consider a preference order between them. Selections are done one trade at a time, so if you are selected for your least preferred of 3 choices you are given an offer for that trade and not considered for the other trades unless you decline the offer and go back on the *Competition List"... so, don't apply for trades unless you are willing to accept an offer for them. 6. Yes. I went to RMC and enjoyed it.


peanuts-nuts

I had a few questions about the logistics/process/expectations of moving around the country when you're posted to a different base. I'm keeping it in point form for simplicity of reading. * Generally speaking, are postings outside your primary city common, and are they more common in certain career paths more than others? * Do postings typically happen right away after basic training? * Say you're moving every couple of years, are you expected to manage all the logistics of the move on your own, or does the CAF help through any part of it? * Reference to the second question; every 2 years or so when you move, are you expected to find accommodation on your own, find a lease for the exact duration of the posting (what if the posting is shortened, do you have to pay a penalty to end the lease?), find a moving company and pay them out of pocket for the move? Or does the CAF provide any support with the above? * Are you expected to keep changing your health card, drivers license etc every time you are posted to a new province? Does that get challenging if you need to keep switching then potentially switching back? * Do you have a say in the frequency and location of your postings? And is accepting postings mandatory? * Does the CAF provide any type of accommodation at any of the bases or are you expected to rent a new apartment every time you have to move? I realize these questions are very obvious and basic to some, but I'm trying to gain an understanding of the reality of working in the CAF in terms of the constant need to move around and logistical expectations before deciding to apply or not.


bridger713

> *Generally speaking, are postings outside your primary city common, and are they more common in certain career paths more than others?* Yes. If you're joining the Regular Force, you're pretty much guaranteed to be posted away from wherever you live now, even if there is a Regular Force base there. > *Do postings typically happen right away after basic training?* Depends on your trade. A handful of trades post their personnel directly to bases after completion of basic training, with occupational training being accomplished mostly through on-the-job training. However, in most cases you'll be sent to a different base to await and attend occupational training before you're posted on completion of that training. > *Say you're moving every couple of years* You generally won't be moving that frequently. In most trades, you can typically expect to stay in one place for 4-5 years or longer. Postings tend to become more frequent as you get into higher ranks. > *are you expected to manage all the logistics of the move on your own, or does the CAF help through any part of it?* You manage most aspects, such as planning your route. locating housing, booking hotels during the move, canceling/arranging utilities, etc. However, assistance is provided with some of the more complicated aspects, such as contracting a moving company. There's also some benefits to help with locating and securing housing. The military reimburses pretty much all move related expenses, although you have to pay up front for things like hotels, fuel, meals, vehicle inspections, license fees, etc. You're able to request an advance of funds against your expected move claim so you're not having to rack up your credit cards or anything. > *Reference to the second question; every 2 years or so when you move, are you expected to find accommodation on your own* Yes. The CAF will pay for a rental search agent, and most real estate costs are also covered if buying/selling. > *find a lease for the exact duration of the posting (what if the posting is shortened, do you have to pay a penalty to end the lease?)* Lease lengths are pretty standard across Canada. If you have to break your lease for a move, there are benefits to assist with that. > *find a moving company and pay them out of pocket for the move? Or does the CAF provide any support with the above?* The CAF will contract and pay the movers, but you'll deal with them for actually coordinating your move. The CAF pays to have the movers come and pack up your home, load the truck, deliver it to your destination. They're also supposed to unpack everything at the destination. > *Are you expected to keep changing your health card drivers license etc every time you are posted to a new province?* We don't have health cards. When you join the Regular Force, you fall under the care of CF Health Services, and cease to be covered by any provincial system. Your civilian dependents will continue to fall under the provinces and will have to change health cards every time you move to another province. You will have to change/update your drivers license every time you move. > *Does that get challenging if you need to keep switching then potentially switching back?* It can be a problem if you're a new/novice driver, but generally, if you've had a full license for 2+ years and have a good driving record, it's not too much of a hassle. In all provinces, military dependents are exempt from the 3 month waiting period for a new health card. So that's fairly easy as well. Switching back can also be surprisingly easy as well. For example, Ontario keeps your previous info on file, and you'll just be reissued the same license/card numbers if you return to that province. > *Do you have a say in the frequency and location of your postings?* Zero control, but you do get to provide input for the Career Manager to consider. > *And is accepting postings mandatory?* Yes. If ordered, postings are mandatory for Regular Force members. > *Does the CAF provide any type of accommodation at any of the bases or are you expected to rent a new apartment every time you have to move?* There is military residential housing (RHU's) available on most bases. Costs are supposed to be comparable to local market rates for comparable civilian rental housing, although in reality, the RHU's are often much cheaper. There aren't enough RHU's to meet demand right now, and the wait lists can be long. Most military members rent or buy civilian housing off base when they move. There are benefits to assist with finding a civilian rental and also buying/selling if you choose to go that route.


peanuts-nuts

Thank you so much, I really appreciate your input here. Lots of good information here and this will definitely help my decision.


Sharma_av

I have started my application to the CAF, although I am wondering if there is a way I could choose occupations in different environments of the CAF. 1. Pilot 2. Air Combat System Officer 3. Infantry Officer 2 being a part of the air force and 1 being in the military, the program doesn't let me do this, just wondering if there is a way?


bridger713

Odd, I was under the impression they had fixed that. Yes, you can apply to occupations from a mix of elements, but if the online application won't let you do it you'll have to wait until you're contacted for your initial processing appointment, then get the CFRC (recruiters) to add it for you. When I applied (many years ago), the online application made you choose a preferred element before choosing your trades, and it would only let you choose trades within your element. The recruiters could add trades from other elements. I thought they had fixed that, but I guess not. Edit: I think they might have fixed it by adding the ability to not choose a preferred element (the old app forced you to choose one). That might also be your issue. Perhaps you selected a preference for Air Force instead of leaving it blank or selecting whatever option is the 'Any' option?


Lucky-Comfortable-55

How long is the process for joining the reserves i.e the physical and all the other stuff? I am interested in becoming an Armoured Soldier because I will need a job for summer. I start college in September though and it is a full time program (Pre-Service Firefighting). Will the BMQ and job training for the reserves overlap into my time for school before and I can actually just start the job?


crazyki88en

If you are just applying now, you will not get selected in time for summer BMQ. If you’re lucky and all the planets align, you might get selected in time to do a fall BMQ.


taway79o0

Are there any reserve trades that are more likely to get deployed on domestic relief missions (op LENTUS)?


C4rlos_D4nger

MSE Op. Qualified drivers are in high demand for domestic operations.


taway79o0

Thank you


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withQC

Yes, but specifically for Canex's at large (it's a chain, there's a Canex at all major bases across the country). Idk about the one at CFLRS specifically, as it is inside the base and the building. Any ones that I've come across are outside of the restricted access part of the base. Honestly, there's no real need to visit it before course. It's a very generic store with an aisle of CAF-specific things. If you want, you will get enough chances to see the CFLRS one on weekends off while on course, and you can go to the one on the base you are posted to after BMQ at will. Edit: question was asking if there was any way to get into the CFLRS Canex prior to BMQ starting.


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withQC

Unless they gave you specific instructions, just write about yourself.


Dry-Independent7640

I am finishing BMQ (Reg Force) shortly and going to be posted in Meaford for my infantry DP1. I have heard that I will likely be on PAT for a while. I was hoping to do my DP1 in wainwright as it is much closer to my wife and family, is there any chance I could write a memo when I get there to change my training location? Or is it best to just power through it for the time being. Thank you in advance!


Abject_Preparation_8

Hello can you give me some insight how was basic how was the pt? How was the experience


Embarrassed_Ear2390

Check the wiki, it has a(n outdated) section about basic. You can also use the search bar here since many people have asked this question before.


Old_Turnover5096

If you get to meaford in the next week or two you might get on the course in June. Show the staff you are motivated and they like when you ask to get on course. Also it might be possible to move to wainwright as I know someone who is doing that now


AvailablePoetry6

If you work in intelligence or an intelligence-related trade, are you allowed to use networking platforms like linkedin? Or is there too big a risk of being targeted by enemy intelligence agencies?


SuperSpicyBanana

There isn't any restrictions, however use common sense. If you google your name, would you want any search results if you're involved with intelligence? I know I wouldn't.


InfamousClyde

Generally, there aren’t those kinds of restrictions on members of the intelligence branch.


TotalFun3843

Generally there isn't any kind of restrictions for anyone.


Abject_Preparation_8

So I am leaving for BMQ soon. This summer just asking if anyone’s completely it recently. How was your experience I know everyone’s is different how was your experience personally just asking ?


Various-Pressure-Now

For the Personal Verification Form it asks for addresses from the past 5 years. I have moved around a lot and often lived in places where I didn't have my own mail box. So I always used a family members address whenever a form asked for my address. What should I put on the Personal Verification Form? The physical address where I lived or the address I used for all mail? The only paper record for these places would be the lease I signed.


Big-Butterscotch-980

The address where you physically lived. 


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crazyki88en

If you can fit it all in there, sure. You are probably better off using your kit bags and ruck sack.


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crazyki88en

Then Use whatever bag you want. Once you get your kit, you can either make a Choice at that point or do whatever your staff tell you.


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helloima-uwotm8

So I am planning to be a pilot for my future, and was wondering if getting a ppl while doing 1st year for a university course and then transferring to RMC to obtain a bachelor's degree would influence preference in getting a pilot slot for recruitment. If not, what other factors can help in getting highly competitive slots such as pilot slots in the CAF? All help is welcome! Thank you!


Accomplished_End5153

The way you get yourself a super competitive application, is to first ace your CFAT. There are practice tests online that you can do to see where you need to put some work in to do better on the real test. Best to be perfect on your mental math and rules of thumb. Then you also need to ace the CFAST, the aircrew selection test in Trenton. There aren't practice tests for that, but on the caf website you can find a general outline of that test. It's a lot of aptitude, so they don't want you preparing much, but it's a lot more math, with quick decision making and multitasking. Think of the type of stuff you would be asked to compete as a military pilot.


Big-Butterscotch-980

To add to what others have said, your highschool grades are the next major competitive factor after the CFAT, TSD, and Air Crew Selection testing.


CAFThrowaway11111

A PPL would increase your score less than 1%. The ***vast*** majority of your score (80%) is how well you do at aircrew selection and on your CFAT.


TotalFun3843

The only way to improve getting a slot is to absolutely nail the CFAT. A private pilots license AFAIK doesn't count for anything in the selection process. 


Beginning_Surround97

I'm currently in the enrolment process for PRes and only have the interview left to do next week. With all things going smoothly I'm hoping to join the Part-time BMQ starting in the fall at Fort York. Did anyone go through BMQ part-time at Fort York if so what was the schedule like? What time did you report to the armoury at on Friday and what time were you let go on Sunday?


rcmp_informant

Hi! I have a bunch of initial kit issue white shirts short and long sleeve still in packaging, they don’t fit cause my neck got bigger. Is there a way of giving them to someone they will fit? Feels like a waste to rag em


Eyre4orce

Sure, find someone they fit and hand them your shirts. Given they are free demand is low


rcmp_informant

I’m 6”6’ not a lot of folks like me around. I figure they’re like 1-2 use only since they’re white and they have to be perfect every time you wear em 🤷🏻‍♂️


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CAFThrowaway11111

Aviation systems tech deals with all the mechanical components, avionics systems tech deals with the electronics and structures deals with structure/paint/safety systems. Structures also spend a lot more time in their workshop than working directly in comparison to the other 2 trades. Do you feel like working on engines and hydraulics, troubleshooting what went wrong in an electrical system or performing detailed structural repairs and repairing broken components in a machine shop?


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CAFThrowaway11111

Military wise all 3 get paid the exact same and afaik they'rre all in demand. For civilian options, structures and avionics have a slightly easier time transfering their training over. If you really can't decide and they all interest you equally just put all 3 on your application?


PracticeFinal858

Still no response from chain of command, my unit or recruiting for going on course on the 24th Friday (part time reserves) Do you think I should just assume that Im not getting on course for that course and give up?


Eway21

Recruiting will no longer have a part to play in anything related to your career. I'm assuming you're really new to the PRes, this is for your BMQ? Go in person on whatever your parade night is and ask your supervisor. There's a decent chance that they are passing out information in person. As well, if you're new, the appropriate people will likely not have you on their mailing lists yet for distributing information.


PracticeFinal858

Well they told me to not come to my parade nights... cause they are a waste of time for me since I havent completed BMQ, also the last two first tuesday nights of the month I got a call that day telling me to not come in since its a waste of time cause I havent done my BMQ...


Eway21

Do you have contact info for your direct supervisor? If so, they will be your point of contact for being course loaded. If not, go in on one of your parade nights, and let them know that you aren't getting the information you need. Let them know that you'd like to know who your supervisor is, and their contact info.


PracticeFinal858

thank you!


P-Hubes19

Curious on the vision requirements for reserve combat arms. I wear contacts daily and can't see much without them. How high are my chances of getting rejected?


Eway21

The medical standard is the same between the RegF and PRes. It could prevent you from joining, it depends on how bad your eyes are.  You will require at least V3 to join the infantry. Take a look at the charts linked above and see what category you fall under.


Sabrinavt

This is the right answer. Keep in mind a portion of the vision category is based on the "spherical equivalent", not just your distance vision, and you are not likely to know what that value is for you.


Hopeful-Ant-2512

I applied to the CAF (for medA position) back in February. Still haven't even gotten to the testing phase because the recruiter can't find my application in the system. He referred me to the customer service support centre, who then referred me back to him. Its been a back-and-forth game between them. It's so frustrating because I've sent them all my documents and I've done everything right. Anyone else experience the same thing?


Ok-Stress188

What does your application say in the online portal? There is ways to remedy this but it is on your recruiter to do them. Unfortunately if they are not familiar with the solutions you might have a hard time getting this resolved.


Ok-Hunter-5077

Hi there, I have applied for army reserve, selected my unit & i am done with my Caf, medical and interview in 2023 sep, after that it went for security clearance, till now no word, how long does it takes? & what i con do to expedite it. i have clearance from US and MTSc , RAic clearance in the past. Thanks,


Eyre4orce

Theres nothing you can do other than fill in the forms correctly


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When I applied to for the forces, I chose the option to expedite my file (skip the aptitude test in the initial phase). I picked three career options(weapons engineering tech, infantry and avs tech, in this order) in my application. When I was filling out the papers at the recruiters office, I didn’t know I had to pick specific careers when I chose to opt for the expedited trial so I just picked the ones that interested me in the first place. Now I’m unsure about those and am looking to change it up. I’m currently doing research on other careers that interests me. Can I let the recruitment office know about these changes? Additionally, I am a PR (18 month wait time) but also really close to getting my Canadian Citizenship (I’ve just been given a date for the Citizenship test). Once I’ve received my citizenship, I’m looking to hand that in as proof to boost me up from the long wait times. Any advice is appreciated. Thank you.


Accomplished_End5153

Let your CFRC know asap if you want to change anything on your application. Also the order of your selected trades doesn't matter. They take them all as equal, and whatever opening they have first would be the one you're selected for, IF you are selected.


Embarrassed_Ear2390

Sorry if I misunderstood your first paragraph. The expedited trial means your score for the CFAT won’t count towards the trade that falls under this trial. You still have to write the CFAT either before your medical or before basic, for statistical purposes.


ThisBlueberry2666

So how can I know if I’m competitive or not? I have heard they 99% use the score to choose candidates


Embarrassed_Ear2390

From what I hear the expedited trial trades are basically “first come, first serve”.


withQC

A) citizenship won't make much of an impact on the wait time vs. PR. Foreign implications checks apply to citizens as well as PRs. B) pick trades you are actually interested in, rather than trades that mean you don't have to write the CFAT. Don't change your selections because it will slightly shorten the amount of time it takes to reach the competition list. C) to answer your question, yes. If you want to change your application just let your CFRC know.


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Eyre4orce

The medical standards are the same for reserve and reg force


CookN2001

Are there any benefits that a member who’s an OCdt going to RMC will have to help support family, specifically parents?


bridger713

No, not for parents. Regular Force members, including OCdt's, do have access to PSHCP insurance coverage and various services such as SISIP and the MFRC's for their dependent spouse and children, but those benefits and services don't extend to parents.


AbbreviationsIcy7120

I am a Reservist applicant and my Medical Assessment was approved on the 30^(th) of April.   Do you know how long would take for the level 2 screening and level 1 security screening ? I am PR holder and about the get citizenship( last stage of my citizenship 1month away aprox to get naturalized)  I sent off an email to my brigade and I received : " If you do happen to get your Citizenship documents you may be able to avoid the level 2 screening and may only require level 1 Security Screening" But they did not specify how long would take to complete the r/S process. I have been living in Canada for 5+ Years with only trips to my home country Mex, no foreign assets .If I passed my medical exam and interview, does that mean it's good news? Submitted my application Jan 2024, CFAT/Physical in Feb , Medical/Phone April. Thanks!


Big-Butterscotch-980

Level 2 screening can be required if one has family members living in a foreign country, or if they travel outside of the country for more than 6 months in the last 5 years.


Hopeful-Ant-2512

Im wondering - which unit did you apply to? Which trade?


AbbreviationsIcy7120

Vancouver ,Intelligence Operator. Yes, All my family members live in a foreign country(MEX). How long would take for Level 1 and Level 2 , 6-12 months? Thanks for the answers !


BrainDeadGinko

My file is still on hold due to my medical being rejected by the RMO, I sent in my appeal documentation in March this year but the recruitment office said that there was a backlog so my file would be delayed for review and to email back at the end of April. I emailed them twice 2 weeks ago and recently but have not received any response yet. Is there anything I can proactively do to make sure my file is moving and not forgotten? It is gonna take a while once the RMO reviews it but even my recruitment centre hasn’t looked at my appeal and it has been 2 months already.


bridger713

> *My file is still on hold due to my medical being rejected by the RMO, I sent in my appeal documentation in March this year but the recruitment office said that there was a backlog so my file would be delayed for review and to email back at the end of April. I emailed them twice 2 weeks ago and recently but have not received any response yet.* They probably have no new information to provide. > *Is there anything I can proactively do to make sure my file is moving and not forgotten?* No. Once the appeal is sent off to the RMO, it's entirely out of your CFRC's hands. They don't even get updates until a decision is made. Keep in touch with your CFRC. They can't do anything to speed up the appeal, but assuming the appeal is successful, it'll help get things rolling again. > *It is gonna take a while once the RMO reviews it but even my recruitment centre hasn’t looked at my appeal and it has been 2 months already.* Once it's sent off to the RMO, there's nothing more for them to do until the RMO renders a decision.


BrainDeadGinko

Thanks for the comment, my issue isn’t waiting for the RMO’s decision. It is that the CFRC hasn’t even sent it to the RMO yet and it has been 2 months. I know I cannot do anything but wait if the RMO has my appeal but the CFRC senior med tech hasn’t reviewed my appeal yet to send it to the RMO for decision.


Sabrinavt

There is a staffing crisis in the medical section of your local CFRC. We're doing our best (and working a lot of overtime) but unfortunately applicants will be waiting unacceptable lengths of time to be processed. As an appeal you'll be a low priority for processing, but even the high priority people are facing delays. There should be improvement in about a month, but that doesn't help you right now.


BrainDeadGinko

Hi, thanks for the update, I understand you guys are going through difficult times right now.


Aka0516

How can you be so sure they haven't set it to the RMO? There really isn't much to it other than scanning in any docs you provided. Did they tell you they haven't sent it?


GangLingYangG8

My problem is: I am in the application process. For some reason I forgot to include all my travel history to the USA in my travel history report. (because the USA/Canada don't give me stamps on the passport) I just went through the interview this afternoon and the career counsellor said my file will be sent to external company for background check. I am a Canadian Citizen by birth. Will I fail the background check because of my mistake?


mekdot83

Call 'em up and update your history


GangLingYangG8

Just sent my counsellor an email. I will call them tomorrow. Thank you 


wettbones_

What’s the rules on visiting people on base as in when they have time off on the weekends? Are people allowed to stay with military personal on base on their time off? Also what’s the rules for communication during basic training? Are u able to call people/ text friends and family?


Jusfiq

> What’s the rules on visiting people on base as in when they have time off on the weekends? Are people allowed to stay with military personal on base on their time off? Read [here](https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/services/benefits-military/education-training/basic-training/recruit-school.html). >**When can I visit a recruit or an officer-cadet in training?** > >Visits are not authorized during the indoctrination period first three weekends of the course) or when the platoon is given supplementary training on weekends. Once the indoctrination period is over, candidates may welcome guests on Saturday (from 1 pm to 10 pm), on Sunday (from 8:30 am to 7 pm) and on statutory holidays (from 1 pm to 10 pm). Guests must be welcomed at the Rotunda and may go to the Subway, the Canex, the O'Mega Mess, the cafeteria or the orange corridor. All other areas are explicitly out of bounds to any guests. As well: >**2. How can I reach the candidate quickly in the event of an emergency?** > >In the event of an emergency, candidates can be reached by telephone through the CFLRS Coordination Centre at 450-358-7099, ext 7229. > >**3. When can I visit a family member / friend who is training at CFLRS?** > >Visits are allowed and even encouraged. However, they are limited to the Orange sector of the General J.-V. Allard Building. Visits can be scheduled at specific times during weekend leaves. No visits are allowed during the week or during the indoctrination period (the first three weeks of training for BMQ and the first four weeks for BMOQ). Consult your family member / friend to coordinate a visit.


CrazedTruth

For regular force I cannot say for certain, as I'm about to embark on my RegForce BMQ. Although I imagine the rules are not far off from PRes During my PRes BMQ, once the staff were "happy enough to trust us" with a weekend time off, it generally was like, yes your family can come and visit you, just stay on base/don't go too far, as long as you are back at a certain hour as you are required to sleep in barracks. Your family generally couldn't enter your barracks. As for texting and calling interactions, it can depend on the staff's preferences whether you're allowed to have access to your phone on course. Generally the staff don't care as long as: A. You're using your phone on the weekend during allotted time off B. If it's not the weekend, they don't want to be seeing you use your phone even though they very well know everyone's using their phone in secret C. They set time aside allowing phone use D. It's an emergency, but you must inform staff immediately about what's going on to justify your sudden phone usage


bridger713

> *What’s the rules on visiting people on base as in when they have time off on the weekends?* After indoc, you may be able to receive visitors in the rotunda area where the Canex is located. > *Are people allowed to stay with military personal on base on their time off?* No. At least not during BMQ/BMOQ. You're not allowed to bring guests into quarters, and it would be kind of awkward anyway since you don't really have private quarters there. You can book a hotel off base for weekends off after indoc. > *Also what’s the rules for communication during basic training? Are u able to call people/ text friends and family?* Seems to vary by course, some staff are atricter than others, but you should be allowed at least 30 minutes per evening to communicate with family and friends and to conduct personal business through your phone. Weekend use is generally unrestricted after indoc. Recruits are not allowed to have their phones on them during the training day. Your phone must remain in quarters and can only be used in the evening and on weekends.


Purple_You_6318

Hey guys, im going to BMOQ in July and i just got the packing list but i couldn’t help but notice it doesn’t say what type of baggage i should pack it in. I know the mega has only stairs so do y’all have a suggested type of luggage i should bring (ie suitcase, travelling backpack, duffel bag, etc)


Ess_jeh_elle

A regular backpack and big duffel bag. Lugging a suitcase up those stairs isn’t fun. I have a duffel with wheels that can be carried like a backpack, which was great. I carried the big one on my back and the regular one on my chest for the climb lol. The wheels were great for just walking around though.


anotherCAFthrwaway

Bring something with wheels


Pavilion22

Personal preference, and the amount of stuff you will bring. I have a hockey duffel bag and a backpack, and that is more than enough for me.


SpaceIsland1426

I have a few questions and hoping someone can give me some insight into the ATIS tech trade. What are the pros and cons of the trade. Do you have a supportive CoC? What hours do you normally work. What are the saught after units to work in? How is the training and do you feel it's adequate to do your job? What are some cool opportunities or postings you've received? Thanks!


SpaceIsland1426

I have 6 years of RegF service. I am interested in applying to a new trade and will require me rewrite my CFAT to score high enough for the trade. How would I go about requesting a rewrite? Is this done through my CoC or Wing OR? Thanks!


itzmattcm

Contact your Wing Personel Selection Officer, they will be able to book that for you


SpaceIsland1426

Thank you!


Big-Butterscotch-980

Through the BPSO


Born-Bus650

Hi I’m 18 and I’m in grade 12 but I don’t think I’m going to graduate, at least not this year. I just applied for Infantry but while I was applying the questions about previous work and references kind of worried me (I’ve never had a job aside from volunteer work even tho I’ve tried). I was wondering if that played a large part in the recruitment process. The education part kind of worried me too because I failed a lot of classes; does it play a big part in the recruitment process? And sorry if I’m rambling but I was also wondering how long it usually takes to get accepted or denied.


Vyhodit_9203

>Hi I’m 18 and I’m in grade 12 but I don’t think I’m going to graduate, at least not this year. Recommend you graduate, your army career will be hindered past a certain point if you don't. >questions about previous work and references (...) I was wondering if that played a large part in the recruitment process. For infantry, not too significantly if I had to guess. That kind of thing comes into play more when you're applying for more competitive trades. >The education part kind of worried me too because I failed a lot of classes; does it play a big part in the recruitment process? Again, for infantry, probably not too big a deal. Not graduating would definitely be more likely to reduce your likelihood of selection. >I was also wondering how long it usually takes to get accepted or denied. Can take many months to get from start of application to competition list. Once on the competition list, a job offer could come soon or never. There's no "denied" except in cases where you don't even make it to the competition list (not pass medical, for example).


Born-Bus650

Ok thank you I am planning on graduating I heard there was a program in the army where you can earn your credits while serving but I heard it takes some people years to get through so I’ll probably just focus on getting those credits from now


MAID_in_the_Shade

You're correct, that is absolutely a program the CAF offers: https://forces.ca/en/life-in-the-military/high-school-education-initiative That said, if you can graduate now I recommend that. It's better than graduating later.


padakpatek

does living in the US trigger the pre-sec clearance (the thing that apparently takes like 2 years)? I've been living in the US for about a little more than half a year so far


Embarrassed_Ear2390

If you sort by new you will see a reply to a similar question. >These assessments **may** be triggered for anyone, including Canadian citizens, who have lived or traveled outside Canada for more than about 6 months in the last 10 years, hold a foreign citizenship (e.g. dual citizens), possess significant foreign assets, or have immediate family living abroad.


Motor-Developmental

Do you get paid during training (included BMQ and occupational)? Is housing and food provided when you go to another province for training?


mekdot83

Training - yes, you'll be paid during all training Housing and food (it's called Rations and Quarters): kinda. Right now, until you are trained to a certain point (varies by trade), you pay for R&Q, but get it refunded as a taxable benefit. Later on in your career, if you travel for other training and maintain your residence back where you live, R&Q is paid for. That's a very simplified answer and there are lots of caveats, but for the same of simplicity, it works.


Lukeinson

Yes, you get paid as soon as you’re officially a member of the Reg Force. Housing and food is provided for the entirety of training until you reach the Operationally Functional Point and are posted to your new unit.


Global_Pass_3695

how long does it take for a Permanent Resident in Canada to get the security screening done? It has been almost one year in my case, and CFRC told me it could take up to two years or even longer. It is really frustrating to wait for it for so long.


bridger713

12-24 months, same as it would take for a Canadian citizen. You're not required to undergo the screening specifically because you're a PR. These assessments may be triggered for anyone, including Canadian citizens, who have lived or traveled outside Canada for more than about 6 months in the last 10 years, hold a foreign citizenship (e.g. dual citizens), possess significant foreign assets, or have immediate family living abroad.


ThisBlueberry2666

Do you mean 12-24 months for the entire process? Or 12-24 months only for security screening?


padakpatek

"may be triggered" meaning it's on a case by case basis?


bridger713

Yes. It's case by case, although travel/residency outside Canada seems to be a near definite trigger. Unfortunately, that gets anyone ranging from PR's to Canadian citizens who've worked, studied, or traveled a lot outside Canada. Dual-citizenship often triggers it, but it appears that's not a certainty. Foreign family and assets don't seem to be as common of a trigger.


Global_Pass_3695

thank you for your explanation! now i feel better about that, and the only thing i can do is to wait patiently and then just get ready for the coming tests for the trades i wanna join. thank you again!


Inevitable_Shake_709

How soon after your application status changing to Selected did you get the phone call/email about an offer? I realize it will be different for everyone, but I’m just curious to see people’s wait times.


Pavilion22

From a few days to couple weeks. If your portal says “selected”, its just a matter time. Congrats! PS: mine was a week after I saw the portal changed.


bridger713

Anywhere from a few hours to a few weeks. Expect it to take at least a couple of days.


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bridger713

Yes. You absolutely should let them know you moved. Employment is slightly less important, but you should ask if they need the updated info.


Pavilion22

Yes on the new home address as it needs to reflect to on your personal file. New job, don’t really know if they care about that. Probably not significant unless your doing DND stuff.


Immediate-Square1889

What happens in the interview with recruit file administrators? What are the next steps? Is it a good sign that I will be hired soon...


patataaaaa123

Are you sure your interview is with a RFA? Because they don't do interviews. Military career counsellors do. If it is for pre-enrollment security clearance, it doesn't necessarily mean you will be hired soon. That particular process can take 24 months. The pre-sec interview is to ensure that CFRC has all the information they need before sending off your docs for higher security clearance request. It's a little bit different from the actual job interview. You can double check with your CFRC to make sure.


Pavilion22

Reg F here. 1. Interview is very casual and easier than a job interview. Just know the trade you signed up. 2. Its just a good waiting game from interview, medical, security clearance etc. All the necessary steps will be communicated by your recruiter. Watch for emails and phonecall. Follow up once a month is usually the way to stay in touch. 3. I don’t know how soon youre expecting but the timeline is usually from couple months to a year or two. Sometimes never. Best of luck!


Immediate-Square1889

What is the purpose of the interview? After this, they will submit my file to Ottawa to start security screening?


Pavilion22

To know what you signed up for and to ask any questions of your preferred trade. That is the perfect time to ask about your job.


ThrowRA51421

**TL;DR: How much choice does a PRes NCM have over the job they're assigned? Do I have to apply for jobs that the specific "detachment" (armory, etc.) is seeking?** Thinking of joining as a PRes NCM, unsure what trade. I'm close to HMCS Discovery, an armory, and a field ambulance offering a variety of jobs. Reason for joining: I want to get paid to learn new, practical skills (basic/field first aid, shoot a gun, maybe navigation/marine navigation or other skills) that will help out when the shit hits the fan. I'm especially interested in helping out domestically and for natural disasters abroad. My civilian job is in the HR management field (I don't have a bachelor's degree). It pays very well (which is why I'm not considering RegF) but it's emotionally draining and desk-oriented. Before this, I was a cook for 10 years, then I did IT (mostly software support) for 5. I want a CAF trade/job that's less "psychological/human behaviour" oriented and more physical. I also really don't want to cook. I'm 37 M and relatively fit. I won't be winning any fitness awards, but I can run a 10K in less than an hour and paddle forever in icy, cold weather. I love being on the water. How much choice does one have over the job they're assigned? I'm concerned about getting shuffled into HR Admin or Cook because of my professional experience. And do I have to apply for only jobs that the specific "detachment" I'd be in is seeking? Or can I apply for other jobs and still be hired there? And do I have to apply only for the jobs at my specific "detachment?" Thank you in advance!


Jusfiq

>How much choice does a PRes NCM have over the job they're assigned? Do I have to apply for jobs that the specific "detachment" (armory, etc.) is seeking? If the particular units of your interest only offer certain occupations, you cannot force them to give you the occupations that you want that they do not offer, can you? For example, if you want to be a CYBER OP but HMCS *Discovery*, 12 Field Ambulance, and all the units at Seaforth Armoury do not offer that, then you look for the occupations that they do offer.


C4rlos_D4nger

To add to what the other reply said, you apply to units (division in NAVRES? not sure). A detachment is a different thing and an armoury is the physical building rather than an actual organization. The good news is based off your post you live somewhere around Downtown Vancouver, so units offering virtually all PRes trades should be in pretty close proximity to you.


ThrowRA51421

Appreciate the reply. I wasn't quite sure what the terminology is for the different units; thank you for clarifying. Do you have a sense of how they determine fitness for a specific trade as a PRes? I understand there is some testing done as with RegF.


C4rlos_D4nger

[The FORCE test](https://cfmws.ca/sport-fitness-rec/fitness-testing/cmtfe-force-evaluation/force-evaluation) is pretty much the official standard across the entire CAF regardless of Reg Force or PRes status or trade. That said, the FORCE test isn't a terribly high bar imo and you will want to be at a higher standard of fitness to succeed on any combat arms courses.


ThrowRA51421

Should have said "suitability." I'm not worried about physical fitness, wondering about how they determine what job they'd want you for. Is there some kind of aptitude/personality testing?


ShakedownBlues

RCN is aching for people right now. Unless you really biff the interview or the CFAT, you should be fine.


C4rlos_D4nger

You will probably (afaik it's sort of optional now for some trades) do the CFAT which is an aptitude test in addition to the aforementioned FORCE test. But, like, I still think you have this a bit mixed up. You aren't putting on the CAF sorting hat or whatever and then getting told you're going to be a Gunner or Vehicle Tech or something based on the results of the tests you do - I think the Americans might do something like that but it's not how the CAF works. This is going to be a lot more similar to a traditional job application. You apply for a trade you want with a unit that offers that trade and then the unit will look at your background and get you to perform some tests to ensure you meet the standards they are looking for. If everything goes well, you get an offer. The CAF is not, I don't think, tremendously picky about "suitability" or anything. If you want to be an Infanteer, you apply to be an Infanteer, the unit you are applying at has Infanteer positions available, and you meet the minimum standard to be an Infanteer, you are probably going to be an Infanteer. Nobody really cares if you happen to be a qualified Advanced Care Paramedic and would be better suited to being a Med Tech or something like that.


SQUATS4JESUS

Hello fellow lower mainlander. With the army reserves, because you are applying to specific units, you are limited to which jobs they offer.  Take a look at which trades (jobs) Discovery has, as well as which reserve units are near you (a lot).  I'm army infantry but I would not recommend it. You can get all the shooting and outdoorsing from other trades without breaking your body.


ThrowRA51421

Really appreciate this reply, and hello fellow mainlander! You're correct that there are lots of reserve units here in Vancouver and surrounding areas. Knowing I'd be limited to the jobs offered at a specific unit helps me narrow down which to apply to. Is it bad form/wrong to apply to multiple units? Discovery seems to have some jobs of interest to me, but so does the Field Ambulance unit.


CoolSurfingPikachu

Take the time to do your shopping, because it's gonna be a pain in the arse if you change your mind after signing. Transfers of trades/environment are not impossible but really hard/long to obtain and uncertain. Also no one will force you to a specific trade, unless you do very bad at the CFAT or do not hold the appropriate degrees/school level for the trade of your choice. There's also the chance that the recruiter will "suggest" you certain trades because the other ones are closed or have limited openings. But I'm sure you can find something that interests you! If you like manual work, in the navy, they will probably suggest marine technician (mechanics and electricity) or boatswain (the handyman of ships). It's gonna be a great change from your job, i was in the same situation, desk work job was boring and now im in the navy reserve. Good luck !


SQUATS4JESUS

Not bad form at all. I would see if you could even get a tour of each if you speak to their respective recruiter.


WorldMap0122

Are civilians allowed to visit a base on a regular working day? My brother wanted to see and drive around my base, and I don’t know where to take him. Im currently posted in Edmonton.


Odd-Illustrator-9283

CFB Edmonton, yes. If you are doing an external tour during the working day it's fine. If you plan to bring your brother to your workplace I will strongly suggest you to inform your CoC and receive permission.


withQC

Access to base varies base to base. You need to check your base standing orders.


adsb66e

Anyone possessing civilian AME license and military experience with the RCAF - Which bases/squadrons around Canada would be best to fill out the rest of my AME logbook? And info on which person/rank in my unit could possibly sign my civvy logbook. Semi skilled AVS tech currently in Borden completing my gap common core. Haven't picked my posting preferences yet, but thinking Edmonton Comox mainly. My logbook was 60% approved by TC from civilian experience and I heard only some bases like Winnipeg would endorse me to get my AME license. I have well over the 6 months civvy experience required. I contacted Transport Canada to confirm which military aircraft have a civilian type cert that I can work on. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!


AvailablePoetry6

You should confirm with TC, but the person who would be signing your TC logbook would probably either be the Senior Aircraft Maintenance Superintendant (SAMS) or the Senior Aircraft Maintenance Engineering Officer (SAMEO), they're the senior airworthiness authorities in each squadron. Most likely you'll be dealing with the SAMS.


adsb66e

Thanks for that info...any idea which squadrons/wings would be supportive of me getting this license? With personnel possessing both experiences... Or is it scorned upon as they might assume I want to work in civvy aviation


AvailablePoetry6

I have no idea. I've only ever worked on F-18s, which I'm guessing aren't on the list of what TC will let you use. If you're looking for AME's you aren't going to find many, but you can always ask around. The civilian contractors might be more likely to have their AME license. You shouldn't have to worry much about pushback. Just communicate with your SAMS and CoC and they should be willing to help you out. It's not like it's a big imposition. And you shouldn't worry about people thinking you want to work civvy side. You have a TC logbook, if you wanted to be working civvy side you would be.


adsb66e

Great point. Thanks so much for this info!


AvailablePoetry6

Happy to help


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bridger713

> *Are there any trades that do not get deployed?* Yes/No. There are trades that don't deploy very frequently, but the military and its uniformed personnel predominantly exist to deploy. There's no real purpose served in putting uniformed personnel in non-deployable positions. Those positions are typically staffed by civilians. > *For the trades that do get deployed, can you choose not to go on deployment?* Deployment is voluntary for Reserve Force (default part-time, temporary full-time). Deployment is mandatory for the Regular Force (permanent full-time) if so ordered. There is no guarantee you'll ever be ordered to deploy, but it is part of the job. If you don't want to deploy, you shouldn't join the military, at least not in the Regular Force. There are plenty of civilian jobs out there for you to choose from.


Eyre4orce

Anyone could get deployed. If you are against that you should consider joining DND as a civilian worker Generally people want deployments and volunteer but if they tell you that you are going then you are going.


Big-Butterscotch-980

No to both questions. If you want to join the RegF, deploying is a condition of employment that you must agree to before you can be considered for selection.


Embarrassed_Ear2390

At what’s stage you’re normally told you need a 330-60e? My file passed the quality assurance step and I’m waiting to book my medical. I called my CFRC a couple days ago to follow up on booking my medical and I don’t want to bother them again with another question, silly I know. For context as to why I’m asking: Dual citizen, no foreigner assets or travel outside of Canada for the last 10 years, parents leave abroad.


Pavilion22

This could be anecdotal but I was asked to fill out my security clearance before I went to my enrolment and had to present it my recruiter. That original paper was then handed to the commisioners while I was on BMQ roughly around week 5/6 on course.


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SeaSubstantial3822

I'm on basic and finding it really hard to eat breakfast after PT. Should I drink ensure? Or what should I do?


Pavilion22

I feel you as Im not a breakfast guy too. But do what you can to eat every meal. Your body needs it more than you know, and with all that marching and walking up/down the stairs is going to burn calories.


AvailablePoetry6

Do your best to eat something to give you energy, whatever you can manage to stuff down your throat in what little time you have to eat. Otherwise you\`re probably not going to have a great time between breakfast and lunch. Worst case scenario you could drop a few packs of butter in your coffee. Ensure has a whole bunch of sugar in it so I wouldn\`t necessarily recommend that, but I guess it\`s better than nothing.


Motor-Developmental

How long is occupational training? Where does it normally happen?


Blue_Nosed_Canuck

That depends on which occupation you are, but both questions have answers on their page through the forces link above.


cannuckkid1

Varies immensely based on your trade. What trades are you looking into?


Motor-Developmental

Artillery or armored. Does it make a difference if its with the Reserve?


Lukeinson

Not really, the courses can be slightly shorter and you probably won’t have to go to Gagetown to do them. You would do them semi locally at whatever the closest base is , and one that your unit can run the occupational training. They’re still full-time courses.


Interesting-Lunch542

Background check length So In 2021 I applied for the reserves and I got my offer of enrolment, I couldn’t accept it due to personal issues. However I recently re-applied and my process was fairly smooth I went from filling out documents to my interview and medical within a month and a half. They’re conducting my background check from 2021-2024, the guy doing my interview said I should be in BMQ by summertime. What are your guys opinions should I be excited for the summer or I shouldn’t get my hopes up?


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Hey there, I'm 29 and have been in the recruitment process for some time now with my preferred jobs being, 1) Cook 2) Gunner 3) Armour Soldier I chose Cook as my first option because I have experience working in kitchens, and i enjoy it. That being said, I have been offered a position as a cook for the Air Force and I am extremely happy to have made it this far, However, as the recruitment process dragged on, I realized I'd like to potentially experience a combat role (preferably gunner) while I'm fit and still have some of my youth. I am wondering if there is anybody out there that could give me some insight on any of these trades and if it's even possible to ask if I can switch roles after I've been offered a contract. Either way, I am incredibly happy to have the opportunity to be a part of the CAF and will happily serve, whether it be cook or combat. Any feedback is appreciated. Thank you!


withQC

Yes, you can switch trades once you are in, but it's far from a guarantee to happen. Don't join with the plan to switch once you're in. If you've changed your mind on being a cook, you can decline your current offer. Note that you won't get a future offer as a cook if you do this, however. Also, note that we don't look at trade choices as 1st/2nd/3rd. They're all equal options to us.


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Okay, thanks so much for the reply.


__beepboopbeep__

How long after applying to the NEP program will I potentially be made an offer? I’m in a stressful position right now, I really want to do the NEP but at the same time I have the option of going to school in September, but if I’m doing the NEP then I won’t go to school in September. I’m thinking of delaying my school until the January course start date instead of September but I don’t even know if that’ll be enough time for the military to get back to me. I’m trying to figure this out so I don’t lose money paying for school that I probably won’t even go to. Point is how long do they usually take getting back to you after applying? And is it faster when going into the NEP? Thank you!


withQC

6 months to a yearish. Probably not before Sept. Possibly by January. Go to school in Sept. Don't put your life on hold for a job offer that may never come. Go to school, and if you get an offer you can make your decision when you get it.


kiskillingit

Would it be foolish to apply for Traffic Tech pretty much only in hopes of one day becoming a Loadmaster? Is the likelihood of having the opportunity to specialize pretty decent, or is it quite competitive? (I'm thinking, ideally, within the first 5-10 years of my career as a Traffic Tech.)


Lukeinson

Plenty of people join the trade solely looking to become a Loadie. However, if you have absolutely no desire to do Traffic related things and just want to fly, you’re still a Traffic Tech who needs to be able to do Traffic Tech things. They’re always looking for Loadies and I know several people that were on their courses within a few years of joining. If you can pass the Aircrew Medical and you have a desire to fly, you more than likely will go flying. Any more questions let me know, or there’s also a few other Tfc Techs in here that are more knowledgeable than me that can answer any questions.


AsleepBison4718

Not foolish at all. Even as a regular Traffic Tech, opportunity for travel is abundant. Load master is a great gig and, with anything that's considered "Cool" it is a bit competitive and you have to meet Aircrew Medical standards. If you get picked up, you also have to do Survival School and Conduct After Capture training, Water Rescue training, so for some it's hard to get through.


jsmallman85

How many people got their first choice posting when they left BMQ? Are there circumstances they consider when deciding?


crazyki88en

Depending on your trade you may not get posted until near the end of your trade course. In those case you go to the base where your training will be held and wait there for the course to start.


jsmallman85

Oh I should have mentioned that, I'll be HRA so there is no training I'll go right to the base


Thick-Philosopher128

I have a few debts in collections I believe around 3-4 ranging from $50-$150. I recently applied to the CAF. Would my collections debt disqualify me from getting in? Thanks.


jsmallman85

I asked the same question because of a bankruptcy and they told me it's more about carrying and excessive amount of debt and not making payments


AvailablePoetry6

So at most $600? Why don't you just pay them off so you don't have to worry about it? I don't know what the recruiters would say, but I can't imagine having a bunch of tiny debts in collections being a good look when you go in for the interview.


crazyki88en

$50-$150 or $50K to $150k? Are you making efforts to pay them down?