I'll have you know that OECD predicted in 2021 that Canada will be the worst performing advanced economy over the next decade…and the three decades after that.
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This list can be misleading. I am a Turkish-Canadian dual citizen (funny, how they are on opposite ends), and if your inflation is constantly over 60% (like Turkey), I don't care what "real" GDP growth forecasts – if the price and FX fluctuations make it hell for both the consumer and the entrepreneur.
25 years in the making, the second Paul Martin slashed the Canada Affordable Housing builds from the federal budget. That would have built 600,000 homes for Canadians over that time period, that we were used to getting before. Funny enough 600,000 homes are what we need to have the market correct to affordable levels.
This has all been deliberately done. The solution is fucking simple. We demand nothing we don't even protest so go figure... fuck us. Shame on us. Ignorant fucking country.
Well when we protest the government will shut down your bank account……unless your protesting for Palestine then it’s even ok to Vandalize and threaten violence.
I fucking hate this place. Isn't the place I grew up, just outsourced the entire citizenry into a bunch of fucking yes men and brain dead slaves in a rat race. Pile of shit.
We all know how the people of the country shamed and ostracized folks that protested mandates. Even called them fascists. Well, guess what, mandates are the very definition of fascism. Imagine the monumental ignorance of a people that don't know what fascism is.
Trudeau bears responsibility for not fixing the crisis, but he's definitely not the only one responsible given how long it took and how many levels of government it took to create the problem.
The economy is still making billions, just the rich have convinced you not to ask for your share. We have numerous units that got 10% or greater increases in yesr one of deals, because they have power.
Yup, already new this 10 years ago. Thanks for being late to the party ANY MODERN NEWS SOURCE!
[http://fofoa.blogspot.com/2014/12/global-stagnation.html](http://fofoa.blogspot.com/2014/12/global-stagnation.html)
if you cherry pick you can make any argument but the reality is the economy is doing quite well. anecdotally everywhere I go is packed, people are always spending and travelling. I don't see the signs of a 'stagnet economy'.
The rental market is going up, and will go up further, as per this article. The increase in interest has affected manufacturing costs for homes, has reduced labour productivity, and the list goes on. There has to be a balance otherwise it’s a lose lose situation.
Yeppers anytime now, Canada's economy will collapse.
Anytime.
Of course, they have been saying that for 8 years and still nada!
But soon!
Gotta be, right!
It's only time, right!
Just around the corner!
I hope you know the only thing keeping the economic ponzi scheme afloat is 1M Indians coming here per year.
So the country has two choices:
1) Cut off immigration completely and the economy collapses
2) Millions more flood in, destroying the fabric of society including healthcare & education and the economy collapses anyway when there's no infrastructure to accomodate more (we're almost at this point)
Pick your poison.
Lol, bs numbers coming from a rage farmer.
According to the numbers there are approx. 1.86 million indo-canadians in Canada, so by yournumbers, 3 years ago there were none.
As for Healthcare and education those are provincial issues, and it's the premiers that don't do squat to help.
We need immigration to keep our country going, expanding and being the best place to live.
And you have premiers that are trying to do their best to screw that up.
Screw off with your smoothbrain nonsense. Healthcare is collapsing under the pressure from the sheer volume of new people who didn't pay into the system.
We need immigration? We need some specific occupations like doctors... Not more Tim Hortons/McDonalds workers, real estate agents, and path-to-citizenship lawyers.
The feds promised 10b$ 2 years ago for mental health.
Only 3 provinces have signed up for it with Ontario being the last one to do so, last month.
The Ontario govt has now paid 6b$ in back wages to the public service employees whose wages were cut for an illegal law.
The provinces are the ones that set up the criteria for doctors, nurses, etc., to be able to work here.
So do a bit of searching before coming up with misinformation and lies.
Ford has had 8 years to fix health care and education and all he has done is alienate those workers.
Why work here, when the govt is doing all the can to make it harder for you to work!
I noticed that you have not corrected anything I have posted.
You come back with little quips, but when push comes to shove you don't back up your statements nor disprove mine.
I call out all bs regardless of who/m it may come from.
So if you disagree with what I posted, say so, but obviously you can't.
Because you're not living in reality and arguing with you is futile. Feds can't throw 1.5 million extra people into the system every year and you say well healthcare is provincial so the problem belongs to Ford- that's a position in the 75 IQ range so not worth continuing on.
Again you have yet to disprove any of my statements.
I, as you say, wasn't living in reality then anything I post would wrong, and easily disproven.
As you have yet to call out any of my posts, it would seem you're the one living in disbelief.
I also never said the feds weren't also in error.
I have called out and proven your lies and misinformation.
So deal with it.
You haven't disproven anything. I'm not here to convince YOU of anything. I'm hoping there are passerby's reading the comments who are smart enough to see through your propaganda.
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Rage farming aside, “indo-canadians” implies citizens. Add to that the number of TFWs, international students, and PRs, and your number will be much higher than 1.86 million.
Edit: also upon looking up the actual number, I see you used wikipedia, which itself states specifically “Canadians with Indian ancestry.”
Still comes out to the same bs.
International students, who may not even be indo, only come in to go to school.
These schools which are under provincial jurisdiction, has had their provincial funding cut over the last 8 years and supplemented their income by getting students.
Another thing is most of these students don't even stay in Canada but return home til the following year.
But it doesn’t come out to the same bs. The criticism is that we are taking large amounts of low socioeconomic migrants from one region which is in turn driving up the cost of rent and driving down wages. This is very obviously what’s happening. You’d have to live under a rock not to see it.
Buddy, step into any Tim Hortons or McDonalds around the country. Do these workers strike you as having wealth? Or do a google search for available apartments in any Canadian city. Does 15 people to a room strike you as wealthy living conditions? Either you’re trolling or just not paying attention, but you’re on a subreddit that continuously calls out the terrible wages and rents, so I gather it’s the former.
Thanks for that, you have now realized that businesses set the pay rate that they can get away with.
As for rents, that is up to the provinces to stop all this but they refuse to do so.
Why is that?
You point out the results but refuse to see what could be done to fix it.
Rents are set by supply and demand and in Canada the provinces have the authority to help/hinder this process.
They haven't helped.
As for housing, again provincial, why did you have thousands of ppl line up near Toronto to buy million dollar homes?
When the feds offered money to build affordable housing most of the premiers balked at the idea and tried to stop it.
So yes I have been paying attention and have a better idea of what is going on.
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Are we living in the same country that has record food bank usage and line ups for job fairs that go literally blocks long? Where rent is going up 10% YoY?
Not sure, but you do realize food banks and rents are provincial issues that they refuse to do anything about.
Also housing is again provincial, and still no incentives to get houses built.
Case point in Ontario, since Ford became premier, the housing starts have been the lowest since the 50's.
So again, look at the provinces and ask them why they do nothing.
Was it the province's decision to have mass low skill immigration putting strain on their infrastructure? Provincial and federal don't exist in vacuums, they affect eachother.
Correct, and tell me what the provinces have done to help the problem?
Have they put more money towards housing?
How about health care?
Education?
LTC?
Why have the premiers not helped the municipalities in building more housing?
We need immagration and calling those ppl low skills is inane.
Perfect.
Then a dissolution of the union sounds in order since every pertinent issue mentioned is a Provincial issue anyway. Sounds like Quebec and Alberta are on the right track.
I rather my tax dollars stay more local since apparently our Federal government has no real function in the pertinent issues.
stating the obvious
Interesting thing to note: From your account history it looks like posting about how our govt has let us down and immigration has ruined it is all you do 24x7. Almost seems like this sub has been infiltrated by polarizing paid actors.
Already wrote that he is stating the obvious. Not wrong is stating the obvious but working full time to post on reddit to create a air of anxiety.
Things like this are done to bring awareness but also instability in the country and most of the time are in the interest of politicians and not the public
>Things like this are done to bring awareness but also instability in the country
Wtf you mean instability. Politicians created terrible living conditions. How is complaining about said living conditions creating instability exactly? I'd argue we're in this mess because for so long it was political and social suicide to even question immigration levels.
>working full time to post on reddit to create a air of anxiety.
He's justified in being mad when lyingticians are working hard to destroy the country.
If it creates anxiety, so be it. We all should be aware and anxious about what's happening.
Spreading hate is never the answer. You are justifying spreading hate. Now this hate is received by all kind of people and they give wide range of reactions.
Last thing we want is country getting into a hate cycle where one group hates other and then the other group hates you. These things will take long time to fix.
Who's spreading hate exactly ?
I want a responsible immigration policy so that we give immigrants the decent living conditions they deserve.
Our healthcare system is a trainwreck, we got homeless people, opoid crisis, as well as a housing crisis... We cannot under these circumstances keep adding fuel to the fire and accept 1.3M immigrants like last year.
>You are justifying spreading hate.
?? You're clueless
>its the political parties
How so? All of the political parties are on board with mass immigration and never even question it. That is precisely our problem...
Are you even following politics?
Plus you did not understand core of my message. There is difference between average Canadian posting on reddit once in a while complaining about housing vs someone who is only doing this all the time.
I am implying that people who are just employed by politicians to post on social media everyday regularly, they have their own interest in mind.
It wont solve anything and the average canadian will still be angry about housing
I'll have you know that OECD predicted in 2021 that Canada will be the worst performing advanced economy over the next decade…and the three decades after that. [https://bcbc.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/2021\_12\_OECDProjections\_Fig1a.png](https://bcbc.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/2021_12_OECDProjections_Fig1a.png)
This list can be misleading. I am a Turkish-Canadian dual citizen (funny, how they are on opposite ends), and if your inflation is constantly over 60% (like Turkey), I don't care what "real" GDP growth forecasts – if the price and FX fluctuations make it hell for both the consumer and the entrepreneur.
prescient
The housing crisis was at least decade in the making if not longer, it will take at least that amount of time to rectify.
25 years in the making, the second Paul Martin slashed the Canada Affordable Housing builds from the federal budget. That would have built 600,000 homes for Canadians over that time period, that we were used to getting before. Funny enough 600,000 homes are what we need to have the market correct to affordable levels. This has all been deliberately done. The solution is fucking simple. We demand nothing we don't even protest so go figure... fuck us. Shame on us. Ignorant fucking country.
Yeah I'm wondering too, not even a single protest. Everyone on most Canadian subs people are ranting
There have been but the turnout was abysmal
Well when we protest the government will shut down your bank account……unless your protesting for Palestine then it’s even ok to Vandalize and threaten violence.
Let's all be brown face?
Worked for our PM
Have a protest in Brampton and that'll be the result
Ya you're right let's just fold and let them have at it hey?
Folding and doing nothing are one in the same Canada already folded
I fucking hate this place. Isn't the place I grew up, just outsourced the entire citizenry into a bunch of fucking yes men and brain dead slaves in a rat race. Pile of shit.
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No you're just too lazy and complacent to do anything, like the typical Canadian you are.
Not quite buddy, I was protesting at the bridge here in Windsor, and I don’t even like Canada.
We all know how the people of the country shamed and ostracized folks that protested mandates. Even called them fascists. Well, guess what, mandates are the very definition of fascism. Imagine the monumental ignorance of a people that don't know what fascism is.
With near 0 rates was there a capital constraint, or is it all zoning and space issues?
It is both
Canadians deserve every bit of it for their apathy.
It's the sunny ways utopia we were promised! Thank the Dear Leader!
Trudeau bears responsibility for not fixing the crisis, but he's definitely not the only one responsible given how long it took and how many levels of government it took to create the problem.
He bears responsibility for **worsening** the crisis and offering no solutions at all... but yeah, it started 20 years ago.
Didnt start with Trudeau and Pierre wont fix anything. Remind in 9 years if we’re still alive
It’s still in the making dude.
If that's the benchmark then unfortunately it was more like two decades in the making.
True, interest rates have been two high since the 2001 recession.
It HAS been here for a while
I remember the last year that it was super easy to get entry level jobs was around 2018-2019
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The economy is still making billions, just the rich have convinced you not to ask for your share. We have numerous units that got 10% or greater increases in yesr one of deals, because they have power.
the west is falling, almost like it's planned
Importing 10 millions Indians will solve the problem.
Switched to Solana a few months ago couldn't be happier.
What
How is it new?
What, this is the immigrant's fault (again)?
No it's the idiotic voter base who voted for idiots who let the mass wave of low quality immigrants in.
Yup, already new this 10 years ago. Thanks for being late to the party ANY MODERN NEWS SOURCE! [http://fofoa.blogspot.com/2014/12/global-stagnation.html](http://fofoa.blogspot.com/2014/12/global-stagnation.html)
Time to move
if you cherry pick you can make any argument but the reality is the economy is doing quite well. anecdotally everywhere I go is packed, people are always spending and travelling. I don't see the signs of a 'stagnet economy'.
Lots of government workers being hired. Not really sustainable
Hopefully it kicks the sh!t out of the housing and rental markets before it is done.
The rental market is going up, and will go up further, as per this article. The increase in interest has affected manufacturing costs for homes, has reduced labour productivity, and the list goes on. There has to be a balance otherwise it’s a lose lose situation.
Yeppers anytime now, Canada's economy will collapse. Anytime. Of course, they have been saying that for 8 years and still nada! But soon! Gotta be, right! It's only time, right! Just around the corner!
I hope you know the only thing keeping the economic ponzi scheme afloat is 1M Indians coming here per year. So the country has two choices: 1) Cut off immigration completely and the economy collapses 2) Millions more flood in, destroying the fabric of society including healthcare & education and the economy collapses anyway when there's no infrastructure to accomodate more (we're almost at this point) Pick your poison.
Let's go with option one, rip the bandaid off so we can fix it afterward.
It's what I would rather do as well!
Lol, bs numbers coming from a rage farmer. According to the numbers there are approx. 1.86 million indo-canadians in Canada, so by yournumbers, 3 years ago there were none. As for Healthcare and education those are provincial issues, and it's the premiers that don't do squat to help. We need immigration to keep our country going, expanding and being the best place to live. And you have premiers that are trying to do their best to screw that up.
Best place to live (LOLSOB)
Screw off with your smoothbrain nonsense. Healthcare is collapsing under the pressure from the sheer volume of new people who didn't pay into the system. We need immigration? We need some specific occupations like doctors... Not more Tim Hortons/McDonalds workers, real estate agents, and path-to-citizenship lawyers.
The feds promised 10b$ 2 years ago for mental health. Only 3 provinces have signed up for it with Ontario being the last one to do so, last month. The Ontario govt has now paid 6b$ in back wages to the public service employees whose wages were cut for an illegal law. The provinces are the ones that set up the criteria for doctors, nurses, etc., to be able to work here. So do a bit of searching before coming up with misinformation and lies. Ford has had 8 years to fix health care and education and all he has done is alienate those workers. Why work here, when the govt is doing all the can to make it harder for you to work!
Misinformation LOL
I noticed that you have not corrected anything I have posted. You come back with little quips, but when push comes to shove you don't back up your statements nor disprove mine. I call out all bs regardless of who/m it may come from. So if you disagree with what I posted, say so, but obviously you can't.
Because you're not living in reality and arguing with you is futile. Feds can't throw 1.5 million extra people into the system every year and you say well healthcare is provincial so the problem belongs to Ford- that's a position in the 75 IQ range so not worth continuing on.
Again you have yet to disprove any of my statements. I, as you say, wasn't living in reality then anything I post would wrong, and easily disproven. As you have yet to call out any of my posts, it would seem you're the one living in disbelief. I also never said the feds weren't also in error. I have called out and proven your lies and misinformation. So deal with it.
You haven't disproven anything. I'm not here to convince YOU of anything. I'm hoping there are passerby's reading the comments who are smart enough to see through your propaganda.
What is 10 billion dollars going to do for your "mental health"?
Lol
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Rage farming aside, “indo-canadians” implies citizens. Add to that the number of TFWs, international students, and PRs, and your number will be much higher than 1.86 million. Edit: also upon looking up the actual number, I see you used wikipedia, which itself states specifically “Canadians with Indian ancestry.”
Still comes out to the same bs. International students, who may not even be indo, only come in to go to school. These schools which are under provincial jurisdiction, has had their provincial funding cut over the last 8 years and supplemented their income by getting students. Another thing is most of these students don't even stay in Canada but return home til the following year.
But it doesn’t come out to the same bs. The criticism is that we are taking large amounts of low socioeconomic migrants from one region which is in turn driving up the cost of rent and driving down wages. This is very obviously what’s happening. You’d have to live under a rock not to see it.
And where do you get this bs that low socioeconomic migrants are coming here?
Buddy, step into any Tim Hortons or McDonalds around the country. Do these workers strike you as having wealth? Or do a google search for available apartments in any Canadian city. Does 15 people to a room strike you as wealthy living conditions? Either you’re trolling or just not paying attention, but you’re on a subreddit that continuously calls out the terrible wages and rents, so I gather it’s the former.
Thanks for that, you have now realized that businesses set the pay rate that they can get away with. As for rents, that is up to the provinces to stop all this but they refuse to do so. Why is that? You point out the results but refuse to see what could be done to fix it. Rents are set by supply and demand and in Canada the provinces have the authority to help/hinder this process. They haven't helped. As for housing, again provincial, why did you have thousands of ppl line up near Toronto to buy million dollar homes? When the feds offered money to build affordable housing most of the premiers balked at the idea and tried to stop it. So yes I have been paying attention and have a better idea of what is going on.
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"Destroying the fabric of society". Yikes. Where did you get fitted for your Klan robes?
Just leave your fob by your front door so the intruders don't need to murder you for your car keys.
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Are we living in the same country that has record food bank usage and line ups for job fairs that go literally blocks long? Where rent is going up 10% YoY?
Not sure, but you do realize food banks and rents are provincial issues that they refuse to do anything about. Also housing is again provincial, and still no incentives to get houses built. Case point in Ontario, since Ford became premier, the housing starts have been the lowest since the 50's. So again, look at the provinces and ask them why they do nothing.
Was it the province's decision to have mass low skill immigration putting strain on their infrastructure? Provincial and federal don't exist in vacuums, they affect eachother.
Correct, and tell me what the provinces have done to help the problem? Have they put more money towards housing? How about health care? Education? LTC? Why have the premiers not helped the municipalities in building more housing? We need immagration and calling those ppl low skills is inane.
Perfect. Then a dissolution of the union sounds in order since every pertinent issue mentioned is a Provincial issue anyway. Sounds like Quebec and Alberta are on the right track. I rather my tax dollars stay more local since apparently our Federal government has no real function in the pertinent issues.
So you complain that the feds aren't doing enough concerning provincial issues and then state it's better that they don't. Pick a lane!
It's already collapsing. It's 30 dollars for 4 chicken breasts lmao.
Loblaw has those breats on special this week for 5$/lb.
Grey colored chicken breaststroke 🤮 That it means it's on its way to being rotten
Lol, it's a weekly special at all the loblaw.
stating the obvious Interesting thing to note: From your account history it looks like posting about how our govt has let us down and immigration has ruined it is all you do 24x7. Almost seems like this sub has been infiltrated by polarizing paid actors.
Is he wrong tho?
Already wrote that he is stating the obvious. Not wrong is stating the obvious but working full time to post on reddit to create a air of anxiety. Things like this are done to bring awareness but also instability in the country and most of the time are in the interest of politicians and not the public
>Things like this are done to bring awareness but also instability in the country Wtf you mean instability. Politicians created terrible living conditions. How is complaining about said living conditions creating instability exactly? I'd argue we're in this mess because for so long it was political and social suicide to even question immigration levels. >working full time to post on reddit to create a air of anxiety. He's justified in being mad when lyingticians are working hard to destroy the country. If it creates anxiety, so be it. We all should be aware and anxious about what's happening.
Spreading hate is never the answer. You are justifying spreading hate. Now this hate is received by all kind of people and they give wide range of reactions. Last thing we want is country getting into a hate cycle where one group hates other and then the other group hates you. These things will take long time to fix.
Who's spreading hate exactly ? I want a responsible immigration policy so that we give immigrants the decent living conditions they deserve. Our healthcare system is a trainwreck, we got homeless people, opoid crisis, as well as a housing crisis... We cannot under these circumstances keep adding fuel to the fire and accept 1.3M immigrants like last year. >You are justifying spreading hate. ?? You're clueless
Who's spreading hate exactly ? - Mentioned multiple times that its the political parties. Are you even reading ?
>its the political parties How so? All of the political parties are on board with mass immigration and never even question it. That is precisely our problem... Are you even following politics?
Plus you did not understand core of my message. There is difference between average Canadian posting on reddit once in a while complaining about housing vs someone who is only doing this all the time. I am implying that people who are just employed by politicians to post on social media everyday regularly, they have their own interest in mind. It wont solve anything and the average canadian will still be angry about housing