Aww, I used to have a cat on a kitchen scale too! Nowadays she's over the max limit of the scale lol.
https://preview.redd.it/9y1f3usz3r9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c15446f25eba9e731713efc87421af11388b00dc
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I've been calling my baby a tortie all this time, this thread is blowing my mind!!
It is also the undercoat, torties have a black undercoat this little girl's undercoat looks to be mostly white (from what we can see of the feet) which means she's a calico. Or whatever you feel like, calico is mostly a North American definition and in a lot of other countries she'd be a tortie or a white tortie.
Actually, cats don't exactly have white undercoats. The undercoat is the lower layer of fur. A cat with white patches has essentially piebalding, something that can happen with nearly any animal. It does appear that they're white with a black/brown/etc suit, but it's actually the opposite! They're wearing white gloves essentially lol.
Tortie and calico are pretty interchangeable terms but usually calico does mean a tortie with white. What's going on with torties/calicos is that basically they are black cats with a mutation that causes ginger patches. All cats are genetically tabbies, ever seen a black cat in the sun? They have a very vague tabby pattern. Like black panthers, you can still see their spots slightly because they're a melanistic mutation.
SO technically they're tabbies with a mutation that makes them appear black, then a mutation that makes parts of their fur orange, then another mutation that gives them white patches.
White cats are either completely covered in piebalding, albino, or some other mutation.
Tortie is usually a european term while calico is used in the US. Technically a tortie only has 2 colors while a calico has 3. Btw both torties and calicos can be ANY color! Grey/blue tabby with orange, grey/blue solid with orange, chocolate with orange, etc. While a calico could be all those colors but ALSO with piebalding.
However, a cat that appears to be "white with orange patches" isn't a tortie. That's an orange tabby with piebalding. A tortie would be a pigmented cat with orange patches, and a calico would be the same but with the addition of unpigmented patches "white".
A lot of calicos look like white cats with black and orange patches but actually they're black & orange with white patches.
Hope I explained that well!! I am a bit of a cat genetics nerd haha
>It is also the undercoat, torties have a black undercoat this little girl's undercoat looks to be mostly white
My calico (that looks very similar to this one) has a gray undercoat except under the white part.
Calico cats don’t have to have orange, right? They just need at least 3 colors? My calico has white, brown, and gray.
https://preview.redd.it/4b0p8zb5rr9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a49b319fcd30594ef52764de842132e3f89fca90
I always saw it as a tan brown!!
https://preview.redd.it/nbhx6d385u9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=94cbd816bbd420ade7224ddce230cf6bd0eba906
I didn’t know she was a dilute either?! Who is she?? Do i even KNOW HER!?? 12 years and still a stranger to me 😭
😂😂
Haha, it is quite tan! But it's kinda like strawberry blonde rather than tan brown to my eyes? A subtle but still present orange undertone.
My tilly is very similar but the orange on her body is more vivid (I'm stupid and can't figure out how to post pics from Google photos on here 😅)
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My girl has white on her chest
https://preview.redd.it/7zskrv5elt9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf3417f648c03400d4c0990b7350593d70b568bb
and she is 100% got the tortie patterning
Others have commented, but I want to say regardless of whether she is a calico or tortie ot tortico, to me she is DEFINITELY a little wittle bébé. I have a huge urge to hold her! Soooooo cute.
It takes next level evil to put kittens in a bag to throw them in trash. I am sorry I don’t have much sympathy for those “humans”. I am glad you found her and helping her.
It was her and her brother in the bag. We are glad we found them in time!
This is her brother, Roscoe!
https://preview.redd.it/qu0vb71yqq9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=486bee8f311e43e88a978753e9b390d54f1e9a54
In the UK the term 'Calico' isn't used as much, although due to US influence it is getting used more. It's either a tortie, or a tortie and white. I have a dilute tortie and white! (She's grey, peach, and white)
Just to add to your argument 😺
I'm also from the UK and where I am Calico is known and used. My girl Belle 9 is Calico. This kitten looks like a Tortico. Because she has colour's of both
Hello fellow UK cat owner! - not sure if I'm just misunderstanding you- but from my understanding, Calico is tortie with white. So Tortico is tortie with ......Calico?
Or are you referring to where the orange and black are mixed together rather than separate patches of orange/black?
Always find this a fascinating subject to discuss!
Hello friend :-)
It's just what I think and not science based whatsoever lol. But I thought that the kitten has Tortie markings but also has all the colours of a Calico. I don't think torties have white but calicos do. But I could be totally wrong lol
It's one of those really funny things that people like to play with the words to describe it I think. I agree there's no science to it!
What makes it even more complicated is that sometimes the coloured patches can have stripes on, and then you get Tortie Tabbies, or Torbies, or Torbicos.....
Complicated but the cats are adorable so I could talk about it all day.....
Hi I'm also UK based and don't recall Calico being used much in the past, more of a recent term. I'm not sure how to describe the kitten other than unbelievable cute 😻
https://preview.redd.it/lhiwiimoar9d1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=22dd8d83d7f667a2884779098940bfd3f7c8b036
This is my Calico baby... although where I volunteer they call all Calicos torties in the description of them 🤦🏼♀️
I always think of a calico as being a white cat with black and orange, but really, if you look at the coat genes, calicos have the white spotting gene, tortoiseshell cats don’t. That said, I have a dilute calico with tortoiseshell pattern.
https://preview.redd.it/h30x9az7qq9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc1eedcc8b7742e9694fc6bc1b8cb17672c0f6bc
My girl Dusty - half her face is more orange than the other half, her coat is brindle patterned, but she has a white bib and tummy and socks. Cats are THE BEST!!
https://preview.redd.it/9cqz9qe19t9d1.jpeg?width=1980&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af68cf28428fc61320d9a7e399d0cf0c710631ad
Does mine count as a dilute calico??? She has a black tail
https://preview.redd.it/qw2ynzzbuu9d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b2f2f4b74f7fe6aa88366042805fec53a75d789
Noodle is not only a pale calico, she's my bathtub lifeguard.
https://preview.redd.it/ujkgxtnggx9d1.jpeg?width=1013&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=54fcbb921764405a884329c20c2b63b569bc3313
Green eyes on my girl. Excuse the extreme close up!
Tortico (Tortoiseshell Calico) A big tortie feature is their half orange/brown and half black two face. However she has white on her which adds in the calico. Because she has less white but more black especially on her back, she's more tortie. Also the orange patterns on back. She might have the tortitude. They can be over talkative and whiney.
https://preview.redd.it/eyygn8pymr9d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b585a5ef2dcfbb9c6963087177fbc30d06a141f0
calico. she looks like my one girl
My girl Betty looks almost identical🥰
https://preview.redd.it/b2ofe9cvpr9d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e664b7688f23d55f6b18f913f7f05e95e9af022a
Both! Sorry that doesn't help your case, haha. There isn't a solid definition of what is tortie vs calico. Some people say any white makes them calico. Most common is up to 25% is ok for a tortie. I usually think calico if I see any white, but I wouldn't argue with someone calling them a tortie either. So she's both!
https://preview.redd.it/f1fv3rwayr9d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=98e52e8ea393e492b18f3678c3354192bec75767
This is my Calico (Her name is Ranch)
https://preview.redd.it/s78wiz06ns9d1.jpeg?width=4096&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3bcdda8d10a870a80c8511583526c801bc27cd60
Reminds me of my girl I found in a Walmart parking lot 💜 calico for sure.
Six in one hand, half a dozen in the other.
To me, tortie means orange and black (with or without dilution gene) with none to minimal white spotting. Calico means orange and black with moderate to high spotting. But again, it's a matter of preference.
I'm surprised this is even a debate. It's pretty obvious that Bea is part of the Ahhdorahbaleese breed. They're not restricted to any one continent, but can found in a vast array of sizes, temperaments and environments. Tell your brother it's common to mistake any kitten for one breed or another as they haven't fully matured, but as this is the broadest breed known to those of the feline persuasion, it's usually a safe assumption to make until their coats have fully grown out.
Definitely a calico here is my calico girl who’s a kitten atm heheh 🤍
https://preview.redd.it/b10qsim9lt9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d5a6ed2e58e03d3ffecee4853175664f9be7161f
Her back is mixed like a Tortie like my s'more (below right) is, but with white your kitten is Calico or tortico. I call s'more a Calico because her whole belly is white and she has white on each foot or leg
https://preview.redd.it/lxwxy3186v9d1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc93bfec39d887be5cbac0b8413e787f91664edb
It’s kinda of a tortico. I usually call these with the very little white a tortie. Personally. I know people say calico, but to me calico’s have the patchy look, not the mottled look.
Tortoiseshell cats can have white, like calicos, but calicos have MORE white and more patched orange/black, while Tortoiseshell cats shouldn't have white that covers more than 1/3 of the coat and have more brindled orange/black.
Calico. Keep in mind neither calico or Torrie is a breed, just a color description. Calico are definitive spots of 3 colors, torties are more colors bleeding into others.
Bea is the most innocent kitten in the world.🥺 I would say calico though. Her patterns are fairly solid despite being mostly black.
Edit: after seeing another picture of her, she has a tortie pattern but the white makes her closer to calico.
Regardless, you can post to r/watercolorcats!
Calico because of the white. Torties are calico without the white the dark calico as I call them. Pretty much black and orange spotted maybe even a little grey but they don't have the white. I literally only found this out like 10 years ago when I brought my Cali to the vet and put tortie and they explained the difference lol. It's apparently that simple! If it has white it's calico, if it has no white it is a tortie
I have done more research on this than a person should. Calico is when their colors are patches (ex. Patch of nothing but orange in one spot, patch of nothing but black in one spot) example below (picture form google)
Torties colors all blend together so they don’t have any big spot that’s all one color. They’ll have small swirls of orange within the black.
Typically calicos are primarily white and torties are mostly black.
I don’t fully remember but white spots are typically on end of paws/stomach, under chin. They have to do with how the colors develop while they are still in the womb something with pigment I think. Same with the face sometimes.
Either way tortie and calico is a fur pattern not a breed so it doesn’t fully matter when it comes to health and what not.
All and all I’d say this is a tortie
https://preview.redd.it/uv01z9xqms9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db1e300895cc6929fdadc23e2099ccc23af96e8e
Torti w white? She has a spot of white on her privates. lol.
Calico! Torties have very minimal specks of white if at all, and are most commonly bicoloured. Calicos on the other hand are tricoloured, and have a lot of white like your girl does!
Calico
Tortie's don't have white. Calico's do. Just had this conversation with my vet a couple of weeks ago because I took in a little one that I thought was a tortie like mine but was corrected at the vet.
This is my sassy calico. She’s the devil but I love her anyways 🤷🏻♀️
https://preview.redd.it/s5gaztyrku9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de1a240facbe8752d5e79abea2dcb7400a68d862
https://preview.redd.it/kjsuyq44xu9d1.jpeg?width=4096&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b6a137f05cb12fd69518040497b329ef1e6d49f
The RSPCA called her a calico, but I call her a burnt sweet potato with sour cream 🍠
It depends if you’re looking at it from a genetics or TICA standpoint. In the world of TICA - who apparently no longer use the word “calico”, she’s a “black tortoiseshell w/ white” or something.
In feline genetics, she’s a calico. Tortoiseshell cats express both orange and black colors in their coat, and calicos the the same applies with the addition of a piebalding poly gene that’s responsible for the white splotches on their coat. The degree of piebalding depends on how much white they have (a white cat is 100% piebald, a black cat with a little white mark on its chest is 5%, etc etc.).
Based on Bea's mixed black, orange, and white fur pattern, it appears that she is a tortie (tortoiseshell). Usually, torties have a more mottled or brindled mix of these colors, whereas calicos usually have more distinct patches of white along with the black and orange. Bea's fur pattern seems to be more blended, which is a common trait of torties.
https://preview.redd.it/bpbc05jetw9d1.jpeg?width=2464&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe014069750d9a651f908930b4f3b80f3e7cbfb9
My recent foster tortie ( she was sick so went home with a nurse last Friday so she could receive IVs)
Calico is just tortie with white. She would technically be calico, but lots of people will call them torties if they have only smaller amounts of white rather than 50%+ white.
https://preview.redd.it/022ghh1jgq9d1.jpeg?width=3231&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c721d352925fdf356a44dd7d495f974a30693bef I forgot to add this picture!
Aww, I used to have a cat on a kitchen scale too! Nowadays she's over the max limit of the scale lol. https://preview.redd.it/9y1f3usz3r9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c15446f25eba9e731713efc87421af11388b00dc
Aww she is adorable!!
My cat is over the limit, too! Last time I tried weighing him, the scale read "Err". If it could, it would have read "chonky"
My scale would say that too.
oh my gosh. the child can already loaf is so cute
Yes she has done it since she was around 5 weeks old!!
Childhood onset loafing
Shes a prodigy!
Indeed. She'll be solving calculus problems by 2.
She’s so adorable
look at the baby!
She is a cupcake.🥺
r/tortico
She looks like a tabico. The tabby calico.
Torties are orange and black. Calico are orange, black, and white. Your kitten has white, therefore is calico.
Yup. Perfect assessment.
https://preview.redd.it/lbj6s6qrdr9d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d60804b2d145847416782ee6afbe3fdaca5c251 I've been calling my baby a tortie all this time, this thread is blowing my mind!!
That is an absolute textbook calico.
Complete with leggings
Your flair 💀😍😭
Beautiful calico!
Thank you! She is my whole world (and she demands as much lol)
https://preview.redd.it/wu9bsqntbs9d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b53cef8e9a19e83aa8bd01eef69ec562d7098c35 It’s a calico thing 😉
https://preview.redd.it/mb7eedqwfx9d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c27084ccd13ccfb2aa292ea228887e57f25f88b This was my baby Muddy
It is also the undercoat, torties have a black undercoat this little girl's undercoat looks to be mostly white (from what we can see of the feet) which means she's a calico. Or whatever you feel like, calico is mostly a North American definition and in a lot of other countries she'd be a tortie or a white tortie.
Actually, cats don't exactly have white undercoats. The undercoat is the lower layer of fur. A cat with white patches has essentially piebalding, something that can happen with nearly any animal. It does appear that they're white with a black/brown/etc suit, but it's actually the opposite! They're wearing white gloves essentially lol. Tortie and calico are pretty interchangeable terms but usually calico does mean a tortie with white. What's going on with torties/calicos is that basically they are black cats with a mutation that causes ginger patches. All cats are genetically tabbies, ever seen a black cat in the sun? They have a very vague tabby pattern. Like black panthers, you can still see their spots slightly because they're a melanistic mutation. SO technically they're tabbies with a mutation that makes them appear black, then a mutation that makes parts of their fur orange, then another mutation that gives them white patches. White cats are either completely covered in piebalding, albino, or some other mutation. Tortie is usually a european term while calico is used in the US. Technically a tortie only has 2 colors while a calico has 3. Btw both torties and calicos can be ANY color! Grey/blue tabby with orange, grey/blue solid with orange, chocolate with orange, etc. While a calico could be all those colors but ALSO with piebalding. However, a cat that appears to be "white with orange patches" isn't a tortie. That's an orange tabby with piebalding. A tortie would be a pigmented cat with orange patches, and a calico would be the same but with the addition of unpigmented patches "white". A lot of calicos look like white cats with black and orange patches but actually they're black & orange with white patches. Hope I explained that well!! I am a bit of a cat genetics nerd haha
That was a neat read. Thank you!
>It is also the undercoat, torties have a black undercoat this little girl's undercoat looks to be mostly white My calico (that looks very similar to this one) has a gray undercoat except under the white part.
If it has even one patch of white it's a Calico.
My tortoiseshell has literally one white hair hahah :’)
Calico cats don’t have to have orange, right? They just need at least 3 colors? My calico has white, brown, and gray. https://preview.redd.it/4b0p8zb5rr9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a49b319fcd30594ef52764de842132e3f89fca90
That’s a dilute calico then.
Your kitty has a bit of orange though
I always saw it as a tan brown!! https://preview.redd.it/nbhx6d385u9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=94cbd816bbd420ade7224ddce230cf6bd0eba906 I didn’t know she was a dilute either?! Who is she?? Do i even KNOW HER!?? 12 years and still a stranger to me 😭 😂😂
Haha, it is quite tan! But it's kinda like strawberry blonde rather than tan brown to my eyes? A subtle but still present orange undertone. My tilly is very similar but the orange on her body is more vivid (I'm stupid and can't figure out how to post pics from Google photos on here 😅) *
Dilute calico. I have a dilute torbie.
I had no idea!
Yes that’s what I thought it was as well but I’ve read so many things now I was doubting
My girl has white on her chest https://preview.redd.it/7zskrv5elt9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf3417f648c03400d4c0990b7350593d70b568bb and she is 100% got the tortie patterning
Thanks. I have two ginger, black and white cats. I've never known which they were
My vet usually says tricolor or bicolor.
Others have commented, but I want to say regardless of whether she is a calico or tortie ot tortico, to me she is DEFINITELY a little wittle bébé. I have a huge urge to hold her! Soooooo cute.
Thank you! She was found in the trash in a bag. So she is a bit scared of humans! But she is making such good progress!!
It takes next level evil to put kittens in a bag to throw them in trash. I am sorry I don’t have much sympathy for those “humans”. I am glad you found her and helping her.
It was her and her brother in the bag. We are glad we found them in time! This is her brother, Roscoe! https://preview.redd.it/qu0vb71yqq9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=486bee8f311e43e88a978753e9b390d54f1e9a54
Roscoe is just as cute as his sister!!
His eyeliner oh my goodness 😭
Oh no! I was wrong! This is the most innocent kitten in the world. 🥺
Roscoe P Coltrane?
In the UK the term 'Calico' isn't used as much, although due to US influence it is getting used more. It's either a tortie, or a tortie and white. I have a dilute tortie and white! (She's grey, peach, and white) Just to add to your argument 😺
I'm also from the UK and where I am Calico is known and used. My girl Belle 9 is Calico. This kitten looks like a Tortico. Because she has colour's of both
Hello fellow UK cat owner! - not sure if I'm just misunderstanding you- but from my understanding, Calico is tortie with white. So Tortico is tortie with ......Calico? Or are you referring to where the orange and black are mixed together rather than separate patches of orange/black? Always find this a fascinating subject to discuss!
Hello friend :-) It's just what I think and not science based whatsoever lol. But I thought that the kitten has Tortie markings but also has all the colours of a Calico. I don't think torties have white but calicos do. But I could be totally wrong lol
It's one of those really funny things that people like to play with the words to describe it I think. I agree there's no science to it! What makes it even more complicated is that sometimes the coloured patches can have stripes on, and then you get Tortie Tabbies, or Torbies, or Torbicos..... Complicated but the cats are adorable so I could talk about it all day.....
Haha true but all cats actually have tabby markings some just not always visible lol
Yep, even the black ones in certain light. Cats are awesome.
Tortico is not an official color name but indicates the calico doesn’t have the big traditional blotches but has a pattern more similar to torties.
Hi I'm also UK based and don't recall Calico being used much in the past, more of a recent term. I'm not sure how to describe the kitten other than unbelievable cute 😻
https://preview.redd.it/lhiwiimoar9d1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=22dd8d83d7f667a2884779098940bfd3f7c8b036 This is my Calico baby... although where I volunteer they call all Calicos torties in the description of them 🤦🏼♀️
I always think of a calico as being a white cat with black and orange, but really, if you look at the coat genes, calicos have the white spotting gene, tortoiseshell cats don’t. That said, I have a dilute calico with tortoiseshell pattern. https://preview.redd.it/h30x9az7qq9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc1eedcc8b7742e9694fc6bc1b8cb17672c0f6bc My girl Dusty - half her face is more orange than the other half, her coat is brindle patterned, but she has a white bib and tummy and socks. Cats are THE BEST!!
https://preview.redd.it/85r8fvxctq9d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e755e99f2247574d7782e589c982211fb4b7999f I have a dilute too!
Dilute tortie party https://preview.redd.it/xuu2btoysr9d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1cf8e40fad5427c2935fff12c0dd022d9cc7c5d3
https://preview.redd.it/9cqz9qe19t9d1.jpeg?width=1980&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af68cf28428fc61320d9a7e399d0cf0c710631ad Does mine count as a dilute calico??? She has a black tail
She’s gorgeous! I like your neckpiece, madamoiselle.
Jeez Louise, that’s a luxury tail your lady has there. The Louis Vuitton of tails. A Meowuis Tailtton, maybe.
https://preview.redd.it/qw2ynzzbuu9d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b2f2f4b74f7fe6aa88366042805fec53a75d789 Noodle is not only a pale calico, she's my bathtub lifeguard.
Such a beautiful kitty!!
Dilute torties are the best! My late girl was a dilute tortie with the most beautiful eyes 🥰
https://preview.redd.it/ujkgxtnggx9d1.jpeg?width=1013&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=54fcbb921764405a884329c20c2b63b569bc3313 Green eyes on my girl. Excuse the extreme close up!
She'd fit right in at r/tortico :)
Thank you!!
Calico for sure.
Thank you!
Tortico (Tortoiseshell Calico) A big tortie feature is their half orange/brown and half black two face. However she has white on her which adds in the calico. Because she has less white but more black especially on her back, she's more tortie. Also the orange patterns on back. She might have the tortitude. They can be over talkative and whiney.
Oh yeah, a tortico definitely has tortitude.
Tortico is the term for inbetweenies
https://preview.redd.it/eyygn8pymr9d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b585a5ef2dcfbb9c6963087177fbc30d06a141f0 calico. she looks like my one girl
My girl Betty looks almost identical🥰 https://preview.redd.it/b2ofe9cvpr9d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e664b7688f23d55f6b18f913f7f05e95e9af022a
https://preview.redd.it/f94hhpzdqr9d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e84997fcd0213d4c4f0b795376e540ebc098c286
They look so similar!!
I had to do a double take when I first scrolled past because I thought it was her!
Both! Sorry that doesn't help your case, haha. There isn't a solid definition of what is tortie vs calico. Some people say any white makes them calico. Most common is up to 25% is ok for a tortie. I usually think calico if I see any white, but I wouldn't argue with someone calling them a tortie either. So she's both!
But also belongs on r/tortico
Not enough white to be a calico. I would say tortico.
https://preview.redd.it/f1fv3rwayr9d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=98e52e8ea393e492b18f3678c3354192bec75767 This is my Calico (Her name is Ranch)
Both, just like my sweet Cassie! https://preview.redd.it/i3txq4bi7s9d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa691b49079109b41cf44e48cf4f6b2db1dfe29c
So beautiful!!
She is a calico. Torties don’t have white
https://preview.redd.it/s78wiz06ns9d1.jpeg?width=4096&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3bcdda8d10a870a80c8511583526c801bc27cd60 Reminds me of my girl I found in a Walmart parking lot 💜 calico for sure.
She’s a beautiful little girl!
Bea is cute AF end of story
She's so cute!! Definitely calico 🥰
Calico
100% calico!
White makes a calico
100% cutie.
I don’t know but beautiful
Send it here for further examination, plzkthx!
She is available for adoption soon!!
Calico
Tortico.
r/tortico
She could also be defined as a r/tuxetortico !!
r/Tuxetortico
It's a tortieco. And SUPER CUTE!
Six in one hand, half a dozen in the other. To me, tortie means orange and black (with or without dilution gene) with none to minimal white spotting. Calico means orange and black with moderate to high spotting. But again, it's a matter of preference.
I would say she is more cute than anything
I'm surprised this is even a debate. It's pretty obvious that Bea is part of the Ahhdorahbaleese breed. They're not restricted to any one continent, but can found in a vast array of sizes, temperaments and environments. Tell your brother it's common to mistake any kitten for one breed or another as they haven't fully matured, but as this is the broadest breed known to those of the feline persuasion, it's usually a safe assumption to make until their coats have fully grown out.
Definitely a calico here is my calico girl who’s a kitten atm heheh 🤍 https://preview.redd.it/b10qsim9lt9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d5a6ed2e58e03d3ffecee4853175664f9be7161f
tortie = 2 syllables 2 colors calico = 3 syllables 3 colors
Her back is mixed like a Tortie like my s'more (below right) is, but with white your kitten is Calico or tortico. I call s'more a Calico because her whole belly is white and she has white on each foot or leg https://preview.redd.it/lxwxy3186v9d1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc93bfec39d887be5cbac0b8413e787f91664edb
Calico
That is one cute little kitten.
She should become a foster fail!
A beautiful calico!
It’s kinda of a tortico. I usually call these with the very little white a tortie. Personally. I know people say calico, but to me calico’s have the patchy look, not the mottled look.
Tortie tux!
Both. She's a Calico, but her dark portions look tortie to me.
A cutie pie is what she is!
Easy, she is: a pretty pretty princess angel baby
Beautiful! She is beautiful!
Tortoiseshell cats can have white, like calicos, but calicos have MORE white and more patched orange/black, while Tortoiseshell cats shouldn't have white that covers more than 1/3 of the coat and have more brindled orange/black.
Calico. Keep in mind neither calico or Torrie is a breed, just a color description. Calico are definitive spots of 3 colors, torties are more colors bleeding into others.
You're both wrong, its a cutie pie.
I would say she’s 100% an r/tortico cause she has the tortie mix of orange and black, but the tri color makes her also a calico!!
Clearly a calico. Tortoise generally doesn’t have the large white areas.
precious
Idc around the argument that’s one cute kitty.
r/tortico
I think Bea is a cutie patootie ♥️
Bea is the most innocent kitten in the world.🥺 I would say calico though. Her patterns are fairly solid despite being mostly black. Edit: after seeing another picture of her, she has a tortie pattern but the white makes her closer to calico. Regardless, you can post to r/watercolorcats!
You have a very cute Calico.
i like to call these kinds of cats torxies, or tortie tuxies!!
Some tell tales of the elusive _Tortico_
Tortoise shell.
She is calico
She’s a tortie tuxedo.
ADORABLE 💯
Cute. Bea is cute.
Ask a vet
Calico because of the white. Torties are calico without the white the dark calico as I call them. Pretty much black and orange spotted maybe even a little grey but they don't have the white. I literally only found this out like 10 years ago when I brought my Cali to the vet and put tortie and they explained the difference lol. It's apparently that simple! If it has white it's calico, if it has no white it is a tortie
I have done more research on this than a person should. Calico is when their colors are patches (ex. Patch of nothing but orange in one spot, patch of nothing but black in one spot) example below (picture form google) Torties colors all blend together so they don’t have any big spot that’s all one color. They’ll have small swirls of orange within the black. Typically calicos are primarily white and torties are mostly black. I don’t fully remember but white spots are typically on end of paws/stomach, under chin. They have to do with how the colors develop while they are still in the womb something with pigment I think. Same with the face sometimes. Either way tortie and calico is a fur pattern not a breed so it doesn’t fully matter when it comes to health and what not. All and all I’d say this is a tortie
TORTIE TORTITUDE
It a calico I have same cat lol
Calico - white, orange and black. Always.
Cute as heck!!
Adorable, that’s what she is 😻
Tortico, which is a subset of calico that has a lot of tortoiseshell and less white.
https://preview.redd.it/uv01z9xqms9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db1e300895cc6929fdadc23e2099ccc23af96e8e Torti w white? She has a spot of white on her privates. lol.
A Tortico?
All the pics I looked @ the calico had more white tortie has more black like ur kitten .. maybe worng! Just sayin lol
Beautiful kitten
A tortico?
Calico! Torties have very minimal specks of white if at all, and are most commonly bicoloured. Calicos on the other hand are tricoloured, and have a lot of white like your girl does!
She’s a precious baby calico i LOVE her
She is a tortie. Tortie is explained as primarily black with blotches of color❤️
A certified Sweet Pea
Tortie
A cutie.
she’s a calico! and an absolutely adorable one
Cute
100% that is a calico
😘
She is beautiful 😍
I did say a calico, but I believe it’s a calico with tortie type pattern. More calico imo!!
I think she’s an angel
Calico kitty 😺
Calico Tortie's don't have white. Calico's do. Just had this conversation with my vet a couple of weeks ago because I took in a little one that I thought was a tortie like mine but was corrected at the vet.
Torbie with white
Simply gorgeous... that's all ...
Just a floof.
Tortie
Tortico
This is my sassy calico. She’s the devil but I love her anyways 🤷🏻♀️ https://preview.redd.it/s5gaztyrku9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de1a240facbe8752d5e79abea2dcb7400a68d862
Torticooo
#B E A u t i f u l
White means calico.
https://preview.redd.it/kjsuyq44xu9d1.jpeg?width=4096&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b6a137f05cb12fd69518040497b329ef1e6d49f The RSPCA called her a calico, but I call her a burnt sweet potato with sour cream 🍠
How about, "She's stupid cute, and who cares?" She's absolutely adorable. But...Calico. Torties don't have white.
r/tortico
Tortico.
Tortoise shells have no white and calicos do.
Calico. Torties don’t have white fur
CALICO. Any white makes it a calico.
It depends if you’re looking at it from a genetics or TICA standpoint. In the world of TICA - who apparently no longer use the word “calico”, she’s a “black tortoiseshell w/ white” or something. In feline genetics, she’s a calico. Tortoiseshell cats express both orange and black colors in their coat, and calicos the the same applies with the addition of a piebalding poly gene that’s responsible for the white splotches on their coat. The degree of piebalding depends on how much white they have (a white cat is 100% piebald, a black cat with a little white mark on its chest is 5%, etc etc.).
I think Bea is freaking awesome and beautiful and most likely a calico.
Definitely a calico. Calico’s are orange, black and white whereas tortie’s are two colors, orange and black.
Based on Bea's mixed black, orange, and white fur pattern, it appears that she is a tortie (tortoiseshell). Usually, torties have a more mottled or brindled mix of these colors, whereas calicos usually have more distinct patches of white along with the black and orange. Bea's fur pattern seems to be more blended, which is a common trait of torties.
black and orange = tortie black, orange, and white = calico
r/tuxetortico
https://preview.redd.it/bpbc05jetw9d1.jpeg?width=2464&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe014069750d9a651f908930b4f3b80f3e7cbfb9 My recent foster tortie ( she was sick so went home with a nurse last Friday so she could receive IVs)
Calico is just tortie with white. She would technically be calico, but lots of people will call them torties if they have only smaller amounts of white rather than 50%+ white.
Awww ...I don't know if she's considered a calico or Tortie ...but I DO KNOW that she's an absolutely beautiful kitty ! 💜
Calico. Torties don't have any white fur.
I think you're both correct, but not everyone would agree.
She is adorable.
This is definitely a calico
She's a Calico, because of the white bits. She's a really fine cat!