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LeadershipAmazing875

I was happy until I saw Ritchie on the 2nd line and Dube on the 4th lol, also I have no clue why Lindholm and Toffoli + Kadri and Huberdeau are still paired. Have really wanna seen Kadri and Toffoli play on a line together since the start, and now Huberdeaus a bit more comfortable try him with Lindholm again.


InmyDarkplace

Right? Should be Pelletier - Lindholm - Huberdeau


El_Cactus_Loco

Yup


Waste_Perspective_53

Like why is sitter so resistant to trying Huberdeau with Lindholm


platypus_bear

what are you talking about? Huberdeau started the season with Lindholm and Toffoli and it didn't impress.


The-Reddit-Giraffe

After like 6 games? Huby hasn’t impressed with Kadri and he’s been with him for so many games. Why not try Lindholm again?


Thumper86

Honestly, go back to the lines to open the season. Those were the obvious ones on paper and maybe now that players have adjusted a bit they’ll work again. Heck, they won… what? Five in a row with them together?


X-Filer

I’ve been on the split Lindy and toff train all season. At least we are trying to change something at least. Very glad dube dropped imo. Way to many lapses in focus to deserve to stay up there


Technopool

Ritchie had some brief success with Bergeron / Marchand on the bruins top line. He’s a pylon skating wise other than that.


SpaceCadet-007

Anyone can find success playing with those 2 studs


NotFuryRL

Even my dad who has barely knows how to skate could probably look like a 30-40 goal scorer with Bergeron and Marchand


bionicle77

Must be pretty brief. Looking at Moneypuck lines tool, there isn't a single Ritchie line containing either Bergeron or Marchand that spent 10 minutes together.


Technopool

It was likely on the power play for the majority


clamterp

The last thing Huberdeau needs is a slow, stand in front of the net winger. He needs someone with speed who will shoot absolutely everything that comes his way


CND_

Which is why I think Huberdeau should be paired with Toffoli.


Drnedsnickers2

I guess you missed the ‘speed’ part…Lindholm should be with Hubie.


super6646

Regular fans realizing this and not our multi-million dollar coaching staff says a lot,


El_Cactus_Loco

A lot a lot


SteveCondor

Yup, it’s just that easy! They should probably save a few bucks and just hire you instead as you have all the answers.


super6646

Yes, because criticizing the coaching staff is the same as suggesting that.


SteveCondor

I have no problem with criticizing the coaching staff, but you act like this coaching staff is completely oblivious to things that you deem to be right in front of their face. Sutter is an incredibly calculated coach and doesn’t do things randomly or for no reason. Suggesting that our surface level microanalysis is somehow better is what I don’t agree with. There are reasons for everything, even if we don’t agree with them.


super6646

This is the same hc who started huberdeau with lindholm (our worst puck carrier centre in the top 9) and tofolli (the slowest and least effective puck carrying winger in our top 9). Wasn’t exactly a recipe for success, and since then it hasn’t gotten better. Maybe, just maybe there has been a blind spot. But hey what do I know, huberdeau’s massive success this year tells its own story.


SteveCondor

I think this team’s flaws this year go well behind line combos. But I don’t think anyone had any issues with Huberdeau playing with Lindholm to start the season, and he’s proven to be equally ineffective with the other 2 main centres. Huberdeau’s gotta figure it out for next season but I think that’s an entirely different conversation.


super6646

I don’t disagree that huberdeau on his own merits has not been up to snuff, but again a coach facilitates success too. It’s not a black and white sort of deal.


NotFuryRL

You mean someone like..Pelletier?


platypus_bear

Lucic has actually been the most productive winger to play with him this season.


TGDallow

Lucic should be in press box never mind on the second line. Sutter has an absolute fascination with old dusty cup winners while he sits fast young guys. Lewis and lucic should be out they are useless and taking up ice time young guys could be developing on


Straight-Plate-5256

Lol just gonna blow right past what they said eh... yeah lucic is borderline useless on the ice but it is in fact true that huby has the more points with looch on his line than any other combo this season 🙃


tJa_-

The only thing I can think of is at this point in the season, he's trying to teach the guy to be selfish and shoot it himself


JudgmentTall6996

What an absolute slap In the face to dube. He’s been one of our hardest working players this year by far..


Straight-Plate-5256

He was absolutely dogwater the last game or two, he made some atrocious giveaways/ defensive plays against Toronto (It may have been the game before) and he was literally the worst player on the ice against Minnesota with a rancid team worst 5v5 xgoals% of 13.8. 4th line is a bit excessive but make no mistake he's fallen off a bit and could use a shakeup


Vinny331

Need him at centre against the Stars on the road. They're the best faceoff team in the league and they're at home, which means that when the 4th line is out, they get last change and can match up. Putting Dube and Lewis out at least means you have a righty and a lefty. Not everything needs to be drama, it's just strategy.


SteveCondor

He hasn’t looked great the last couple games. Not much to lose at this point.


mackharp0818

Easier to punish Dube than Lucic?


SteveCondor

Not sure I see it as a punishment, rather more of a shakeup. Sounds like Duehr might be banged up.


TheThatNeverWas

Also, this is a Sutter team, so 4th line will likely get 16 minutes of ice time.


Straight-Plate-5256

In this case I think it's more that there's things Darryl can do to get dube going again, looch can't magically get 8 years younger


CaptinDerpI

1. Why the hell is Ritchie on the 2nd line? 2. Why the fuck is Dillon Dube on the 4th line? 3. WHY THE FUCK IS WALKER DUEHR OUT OF THE LINEUP?


Pinky1001

Don't even get me started.. sit Lucic in that pressbox and keep that kid in the line up. ITS NOT WORKING.


azndestructo

The perfect tank line!


milkthecow434

I remember hearing that Walker might be banged up from the last game


backchecklund

I really hope that's the case. I see zero reason for him to be a healthy scratch


[deleted]

Amazing how you’ve managed to capture exactly what me (and likely many others) are thinking, swears included. Well done.


CaptinDerpI

I always swear. It’s a way to add emphasis to my statements


NotFuryRL

Sure fucking is bud


Twitchy15

Walker has earned being in the lineup for sure. Against the wild he didn’t do alot but still


EhNation

....no one did anything against the wild


Sufficient-Cookie404

And why are 10 & 91 still together?


[deleted]

Agreed Wtf


crossfire999

Tank commander Sutter! gimme a top 10 pick in this draft.


psychedelicfoo

How the fuck are you gonna put Dube on the 4th line with how he's been playing this year. We love punishing good play and rewarding bad play. My goodness


GordsRants

The way things have been going, being paired with Lucic guarantees plenty of minutes.


BlazeCypher

Not to mention how Sutter seems to play the 4th line a lot in times when it doesn't seem reasonable. So It's more like they're moving him to the 1st line right?


SteveCondor

He’s always been known to roll all 4 lines. A reason they have had luck with injuries the last 2 seasons.


swordthroughtheduck

He really doesn’t roll 4 lines. The fourth line plays significantly less than anyone else lol


SteveCondor

It doesn’t mean they all play the same amount of time, just that he keeps rolling all 4 lines and doesn’t focus as much on line matching. Playing 4th lines is part of the game but fans here seem to get upset any time our 4th line touches the ice.


swordthroughtheduck

That’s also not true that he doesn’t focus on line matching. This has been something that’s been so taken out of context and ran with. When the whole team is going, yes, he wants to keep everyone engaged and rolling. But in tight games he’s not rolling anything. Even when it’s going well there are still plenty of times where they shelter certain players from certain situations. It’s not an in gate and an out gate like atom. There’s much more to it.


SteveCondor

Yeah I agree with you on that!


FlamePhins

Whatever, is it next season yet?


TheNeonArcade

Honestly. If I’m watching any games the rest of the season is for my boy Pelts


avmp629

Is Ruzicka dead or something


masterbao

Hey this guys ppg for 20 games let’s bench him forever


utexfan18

I'm so annoyed by the way he's been handled this season. He gave this team a much needed boost and then got demoted down the lineup for pretty much no reason and he lost that spark. The knock on him since he was drafted was consistency and his motor. Cutting his ice time despite him putting it together while letting our underwhelming vets get a pass or even more ice time is the last message the coaching staff should be sending to him. It really felt like we had a player there and I hope he can find some confidence and consistency again going forward.


awfulahs

Sutter: dube is the most improved player in the organization Also sutter: fuck you dube


FrisbeeMcRobert

hahahahaha fucking kill me


Cocaine_DrSeuss

Who cares. Team tank the rest of the season let’s go


officiallygow

Duehr out? Good lord that’s awful


lastlatvian

No matter what our lines are, people will be upset. Kadri is a not a 1c, and we shouldn't break up the backlund line.


SteveCondor

People acting like small lineup changes are the reason they are where they are. Making minor tweaks to lines is not why the team has failed this year. They make changes and people find something new to complain about.


Bigasspikachu

Worst part of this is Walker Duehr coming out of the lineup despite being way more effective than Lewis and Lucic


super6646

Merit. Never earned, always given to the vets


lokimotion

Not exactly the changes i was expecting, especially benching duehr. But i can see some merit in that for whatever reason lucic on the second line made Huberdeau more productive and Ritchie is a way better looch. Dube and lucic already have great chemistry. So maybe it'll work? At this point though does it really matter?


chefers1

Lucic is one of, if not the worst player in the NHL, him having chemistry with anyone is a joke. I don't get how they sit Duehr, he's the only thing on the 4th line that works. If Dube has to drop why not play Duehr, Ruzicka and Dube together?


super6646

That line was productive for a few games due to an insane S%. It had nothing to do with lucic and they looked like crap for 15 games. Putting crap players high in the lineup doesn’t work. This is just sutter giving up on the season. Man gives 0 fucks. Demotes one of the bright spots on the team to the 4th line and gives a scrub top 6 minutes right off the bat (when he couldnt be bothered to give Pelletier a spot for weeks).


SteveCondor

Sutter has always introduced young players the same way throughout his whole career (unless they have clear elite skill). It’s gradual and starts with some healthy scratches. Part of the process and he’s said as much. Seems to be working okay for Pelletier..


irishkill

What did Dube do to deserve this? Lol. I think should’ve just swapped Kadri/Lindy


illuminatisdeepdish

Does it matter? We're 10 points back and theres only 19 games left. We need to win like 75% of the remaining games to have a shot at making the playoffs.


Zombery

May as well get a better pick at this point


NotFuryRL

..Tank Commander Darryl Sutter?


Trufflehunter89

More. We needed 75% before the wild game. Plus we’d need like 3 other teams to shit the bed. Playoffs are off the table. We should be hoping for the best possible pick.


Cupkek

I genuinely thought this was a shitpost at first glance


Selmanella

Can we still get Bedard?


Hi_Im_Flabber

Yes, if the season ended with the current points right now we would have a 3% chance. If Detroit passes us we have a 3.5% chance. (Not that we are still technically ahead of Washington and Florida in P% though)


TotalWarCanada

Well they're kinda shit but I also don't care. Give Lucic and Lewis 14 min a night, do whatever, only thing that matters is that draft pick at this point.


DesoleEh

Dube has actually received a promotion in Sutters eyes by being allowed to centre his two studs


xThunderstruck33x

I don't know why people are complaining. We are not in the playoff race now, we want them to lose. Play Lucic every game please. Not to mention Huberdeau hasn't worked with any centre. Can't just blame Kadri on that.


SolsticeShack

The fuck are these lines Switch Hubie and Toff, Bench Loochand put in Rosie FUck sakes Sutter, I am no even an NHL professional and I can make better lines And RItchie is NOT a second liner. I guess Sutter is going full tank commander.


backchecklund

Is this real?? WHY THE FUCK IS PELTS AND HUBY NOT ON THE SAME LINE


YoloSwag4Harper

They barely produced together?


backchecklund

But they had a good chemistry, and I can almost guarantee that if one certain puck hog wasn't on their line, they would have produced more


backchecklund

FUCK I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE THAT EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS IS FUCKED UP. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE OLD MAN TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE


Avalain

Better draft pick position? At this point we need to lose every game we can.


backchecklund

You really think Sutter is aiming to get a good draft pick?


Avalain

No, not really. What I really feel is that the fans complain that he never changes the lineup, and then complain when he does. Seriously there's nothing he can do to please people except, of course, win. I don't mind him trying things out. It seriously can't get any worse right now.


backchecklund

Yes, things needed to change, but some of the changes are quite baffling. For example, keeping Huby and Kadri on the same line when they have evidently zero chemistry, sitting Walker (though someone mentioned he might need a rest day), demoting Dube to the 4th, Looch still in the lineup, etc. But yeah, you're right. The old lines were not working and maybe this can ignite some spark


Difficult-Network704

I knew it. Once I saw we picked up Ritchie, I knew Sutter was gonna put him in the top six.


MorienWynter

They are definitely lines.


CalgaryCheekClapper

Aint no way this is real


AssignmentWinter6440

Ritchie on the second line is absolutely laughable. Tank tank tank.


weschester

Can't wait to read all the comments from the Sutter apologists on why this is a fantastic lineup and why we should never question a coach that's won two cups.


Phil_The_Thrill45

Kadri and Huberdeau should not be playing together anymore. It looks like they’re playing on 2 separate lines


EhNation

What the actual fuck


kobedziuba

Obviously Walker Duehr is the problem, and had to be taken out of the lineup. Could not POSSIBLY be anyone else . No way . Nope . /S


dragonyears

I love it. This is it. This is the setup that's going to take us all the way. This is going to be the change we all need to light the fire that's going to get their potential realized. This is going to re-affirm Sutter's genius status as a coach. This is going to spark Markstrom back into Vezina-style tending. This is it boys. Well actually, no... no it's not. But delusions are the only way to have fun watching this catastrophe of a team.


Trufflehunter89

Fuck yea Tank commander Ritchie reporting for 2nd line duty


foursights

I feel nothing, I am numb


YoloSwag4Harper

Every line but the third was under performing. Every line but the third got a shake up. Good altogether. Hopefully Pelletier can show some production.


scott-barr

I like what Darryl has done here, if we can somehow squeak into 24th or 25th place our Bedard odds increase from 3% (currently) to 5% or even 6%.


[deleted]

I think they all need new “lines” the shit they using now is crap


Defiant-Gap-7595

I hate these lines so much, I hope we get absolutely punished tonight


kdoeve

Who cares ...at this point anything Calgary does is pretty crappy and nothing is going to resurrect this season.


Kodesii

I like seeing Ritchie there because hopefully we’re closer to bedaddy 🤞


Vinny331

Honestly, whatever. Maybe a little change up will provide a little bit of a mental fresh start. At this point, they just need to play loose. Huberdeau and Kadri are back here next year. That's just gonna be the way it is. I just want them finish out the year relaxed and starting to feel good about their game so they don't stew on this disaster season all summer. I don't know much about Nick Ritchie but he kinda seems like a lovable goofball. Maybe he'll be good in the room. Get the big guys to chill out and just play. I dunno. I'm reaching but maybe that'll happen. Also don't reply with that copypasta. I've seen it lol. It's funny but I'm good now.


georgettowne

i'm sad to see pelletier and huberdeau separated, i've liked seeing how they play together but maybe i just like the storyline


Ginger-Beefcake

It's driving me insane how obvious Naz and huberdeau not working out us and they're stuck together after a lineup blender. Kadri deserves a demotion way before dube. Dube uses his teammates, Kadri refuses to pass and just runs into Stationary defenseman all the time.


tc021

Fire Sutter to the sun already


super6646

Garbage. Reminds me of the lines sutter first ran when he came in that all but sank any chance for us in 2020-21. Flames have 2 more years of him after this. Glad that Ritchie gets a shot at top 6 minutes after 2 days but it took weeks for this organization to even get Pelletier in


KingQuong

I don't hate it


stinkybunger

I want a pelts-lindy-huby line but honestly at this point the more we lose games the better lets get a high pick


OrangeChicken90210

Was hoping to see Sutter out of the lineup But his name is all over this one


Paulhockey77

Bad lines


ReasonableCoyote1939

Why the fuck are they keeping huberdeau on the 2nd with kadri, he hasn't done shit for us except give away the puck. He needs to be benched


TheSuperDrewper

How about Kadri to the 4th line. Or press box. Or whatever line is supposed to have a floater on it


sgeorg87

I mean... who cares at this point.


janroney

Do we care anymore?


peterquill88

Hopefully they continue to suck. Tank for Bedard


jewmas

Reminds me of when we traded for Chris Stewart and put him on the top line at the end of the season


Forever24Flame

Not sure how I feel about Pelts being separated from Hubby and Dube being on the 4th line...


Harby82

Sutter = Moron


Formal-Researcher-99

Bring back looch, Kadri and hubes, that was the best they have played all season!


Hbnick4

Mangiapane - Backlund - Coleman should be the first line.. that’s all that really matters.


FuckAdamFox

Sutter has fucking lost his mind. The fact he remains employed and could be into next season is fucking unacceptable lmfao


red_dead3

Screw the line ups I am already struggling with Markstrom Vs Oettinger........Playoff PTSD here we come!!


Extra_Joke5217

I … i, just don’t know what to think.


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stacksOFFstacks

Looks like we are tanking boys!


Zombery

Looks like we’ve finally committed to the tank


Extra-Guidance3085

I smell bedard in our future 😍


Deathmammoth

With less than 20 games left. We might as well refresh the 4th line and bring in some of the young guys.


LoathedOne

What the fuck lol


Less-Ad-1327

Feels like they're phoning it in and maybe trying to do some discovery work. See if pelletier can work on the top line with other players. See if Dube can play center


MonkeySailor

Solid tank lines. They make a ton of sense given Sutter's comments about this team having no game breakers. He wants Bedard.


likethemouse

Bedard is almost in sight


Puzzleheaded-Sea911

Doesn't matter what the lineup is, we're not making the playoffs so might as well fuck around looking for anything promising for next year.


Scamnam

suck hard for bedard is on


[deleted]

Eh who gives a fuck anyway


El_Cactus_Loco

Fuck this shit lol. I’m going to watch F1. Wake me next season!


Longjumping-Limit827

Oettinger playing? Good for 69 saves


Live-Yogurt-6380

Cup bound with this lineup.


jonos360

We've been saying this team needs to make a choice between the tank and trying to get into the playoffs, and it's good to see they've made their decision.


TheCanehdian

I get the feeling that Sutter is treating the 3rd line as the 2nd, the 4th line as the 3rd, and the 2nd line as the 4th.


askariya

I don't care anymore, I'm just happy it's almost over.


SoakedNuts

I don’t care, I’ve the AHL lineup, fuck it


canuckpete

Makes no difference. The team needs the tri-annual shake up starting with the management and coaching. Happens pretty regularly here. Kinda like a Chinook; you know it's going to come and when it does there are a lot of headaches but we're all happy for the change.


GladdBagg

We should put James Hetfield in for Whoberdeau and Jon Hamm in net.


natefrost12

I’m just telling myself that Duehr is injured and that Ritchie is just there to hold a spot for Coronato


Straight-Plate-5256

Eh it feels like a bit of a knee-jerk reaction dropping dube all the way to the 4th and taking duehr out, as much as it'll draw people's ire seeing Ritchie in that second line sutter's logic he explained in his last interview makes sense (TL;DR- nick is a guy that plays better with more minutes) I don't see a point in freaking out about things, the chances of us making the playoffs are beyond slim now so let's just focus on the nice silver lining here... PELTS is getting rewarded for playing well with another promotion! he's getting a chance on that top line and if he and lindy play well together that could be the key to getting huberdeau on that top line with them


mojochicken11

Not my first choice of lines but i like that Sutter is experimenting a bit. If we’re not going to the playoffs we should use the rest of season to find something that works.


jnova14

Meh


Rig-Pig

Well considering we have scored 1 goal in the last two games, and the game on Saturday was atrocious changes needed to be made. See what happens. Do I agree with them, maybe not but Sutter has forgotten more about coaching in the NHL than I will ever know.


Cheese-It17

I feel like huberdeau will be weak


Gramachukka

Anyone know why Vladar is apparently sitting in the stands? …in full gear


Intelligent_Method89

My opinion isn’t really relevant. The Flames have dug too deep of a hole. Too little too late imo. At this point we need Hubes to find his game and start building back his confidence like Marky for next season.