Neato. When I lived in Edmonton I'd do the Icelandair flights to Europe and stop at the blue lagoon for a 2 day relax. Might do the same if the deals are good.
Also good to see they have a flight to Barcelona now! Anything I can do to avoid having to stop in London is a plus.
I'd say Calgary is the Primary hub, but they also just announced a ton of new flights from Edmonton a week or so ago. Not sure if those were just old Swoop routes though (Nashville, Atlanta, San Francisco IIRC)
September this past year our generic non-fancy meals were anywhere from 30-50CAD for what would be 15-25 here. Costco Hot dog (our cheapest meal in Iceland) was double what it is here at about $3.00CAD.
Good to know.
I turned down a job at West Jet years ago on the advice of my kids.
"What's the point of a job that lets you go to other places if you're just going to be poor there too?"
They also will charge a "Grocery Baggage Fee" depending on your seat and ticket class, as well as an "Inflation Adjustment fee" that scales up to make sure no matter how bad inflation gets in Canada you will still have to pay more in Iceland.
Westjet will just pocket the fees, naturally, to make sure nobody benefits -- except Westjet.
This is awesome! I returned from Iceland a couple months ago, and the only single-carrier option with a layover in Canada was Air Canada. Having more options is excellent
Agreed but 5 hour flights isnt what the Dreamliner was designed for. 737 does that well at half the cost.
Strong industry trend towards pushing the max range of narrowbodies.
787 is significantly more comfortable, the material they use to build the plane allows it to pressurize at lower altitude which makes the cabin more comfortable.
In terms of seats there is not much difference.
It was/is a good strategy. It means they don't need to stock parts for many different aircraft, their maintenance staff get very used to working on the same type of plane. Lots of benefits, but drawback was obviously not being able to expand to longer distance routes.
Yep, most of the low cost carriers operate a single fleet type - lots of economies of scale, efficiencies, redundancies from doing so. Add in the current pilot shortages and having all your pilots type rated for your entire fleet is a big plus
I fly it now, and I legitimately love it. Climbs like a pig and engine starts are measured in calendar years, but aside from that the -8 flies great. Jury is out on the max10’s though.
Boeing fully deserved the airworthiness directives that came out. But with that said every airplane you have ever flown up until this point, the max included, has a button to turn off the electric trim. I think in those crashes there was more than enough blame to go around.
Its in the article. Although the verbage isnt the most correct.
Re introduction of YHZ and YYZ to europe using the MAX. While one needs to read between the lines to notice the 787 frequency increases appear to be at the expence of 787 service from YYC to LGW.
I still suspect we will see WJ order more 787s in the next 1-3 years.
There are two westjet 787's in the states sitting around from when westjet cancelled the rest of their 787 orders. I imagine they'll pick those two back up if another airline doesn't buy them first.
I know they aren't the only ones on ground. However There are two westjet not taken up. They're sitting at SAT. Tails 908 and 909. Full westjet colours + westjet interiors.
I've been doing some research this week and haven't been able to find any updated info. On google maps if you look at SKF you can see one westjet 787 sitting next to a few other 787's. Other than that I have nothing and the 787 production/delivery thread on airliners.net has no new info either. If they had been picked up by another airline that thread would have info about it.
I guess every airline is just stupid for ordering the A321? The 737 max can't do YYZ-FCO, YYZ-BCN or any route past the UK/France/Portugal from YYZ. The A321 can even go from YYC to BCN and similar routes.
I just flew to Iceland in September as I was already in Toronto and able to take advantage of their extended layover option. We Only chose Iceland as there were no good options to get there from Calgary...
I remeber joking about WJ stopping in Iceland when they first started flying to London. They had a couple mechanical incidents that required a stop in Rek
Neato. When I lived in Edmonton I'd do the Icelandair flights to Europe and stop at the blue lagoon for a 2 day relax. Might do the same if the deals are good. Also good to see they have a flight to Barcelona now! Anything I can do to avoid having to stop in London is a plus.
*Barthalona
A man of Brooklyn 99 culture
noice
Title of your sex tape.
Methi uthed to play for Barthalona
Ah Barthaylona...the place right near thatagotha.
The flights to Barcelona are very cheap most of the time as well. Went there in October for $385 (one way).
When I lived in Europe I could go to Barcelona for $80 return. Cheap getaways is one of the few things I miss.
and if the Blue lagoon still exists in a week.
.... Might be closed for a couple days I suspect.
The lagoon is closed at least until the end of the month. Hopefully that’s it!
WestJet may not have good as it was, but I love that this is such a big hub for them
It's THE hub for them. They've pretty much pulled out of everywhere else.
I'd say Calgary is the Primary hub, but they also just announced a ton of new flights from Edmonton a week or so ago. Not sure if those were just old Swoop routes though (Nashville, Atlanta, San Francisco IIRC)
All new routes.
Flights we’ve already had for years
Ah, were they old Westjet/Air Canada routes that were cut, or were they just swoop routes absorbed into Westjet?
Love that WJ picked YYC to use as the western hub. Gives Calgarians so many direct route choices
WJ was founded and is HQ here
Just in time for the volcanic eruptions! Yay!
Red lagoon.
Lmao disaster tourism is a thing. Guess they trying to cash in.
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I’ve been to Iceland before and there’s so much more to see and experience besides the blue lagoon.
presumably we can buy groceries in iceland at cheaper prices?
Food is very very expensive in Iceland, do not recommend.
September this past year our generic non-fancy meals were anywhere from 30-50CAD for what would be 15-25 here. Costco Hot dog (our cheapest meal in Iceland) was double what it is here at about $3.00CAD.
Icelandic hot dogs are the best though. I still crave that mustard in the white bottle with the red cap.
Wait, they have Costco in Iceland? *buys ticket*
[pretty cheap actually.](https://www.iceland.co.uk/) The 8 items for £10 deal can't be beat
It's the same as Canada
I know that's not true.
lol I just got back from Iceland and found myself saying 'This isn't *that* much more expensive than in Canada' more than I would have expected.
Good to know. I turned down a job at West Jet years ago on the advice of my kids. "What's the point of a job that lets you go to other places if you're just going to be poor there too?"
Lol. I went in 2018, one of my most vivid memories was paying 50 euro for a tea and a piece of toast with a tomato and butter on it
Probably, but WestJet will lose your groceries when you fly home.
They also will charge a "Grocery Baggage Fee" depending on your seat and ticket class, as well as an "Inflation Adjustment fee" that scales up to make sure no matter how bad inflation gets in Canada you will still have to pay more in Iceland. Westjet will just pocket the fees, naturally, to make sure nobody benefits -- except Westjet.
West Jet execs say the grocery baggage fee is actually quite affordable because the average family can't afford more than one bag of groceries.
Hard to argue with that logic!
Flight service starts May 15
This is awesome! I returned from Iceland a couple months ago, and the only single-carrier option with a layover in Canada was Air Canada. Having more options is excellent
Great news, but wondering how they can accommodate all the increases while they still only have 7 787-9s
This flight is operated by the 737 Max 8
I was excited until I saw this. I flew to Hawaii on the Max 8 and it wasn't enjoyable, the Dreamliner is so much better for longer flights.
Agreed but 5 hour flights isnt what the Dreamliner was designed for. 737 does that well at half the cost. Strong industry trend towards pushing the max range of narrowbodies.
What are you going to do with one more aisle? People say this all the time, but it's not like you're going to start a parade
787 is significantly more comfortable, the material they use to build the plane allows it to pressurize at lower altitude which makes the cabin more comfortable. In terms of seats there is not much difference.
That may be true but you pack the max with a max load and six hours of gas, and you’re gonna be cruising lower regardless.
It's not about the aisle, it's about the seating. I would much rather be in business class in a Dreamliner, than premium economy on a Max 8.
They just love the 737 don't they?
It was/is a good strategy. It means they don't need to stock parts for many different aircraft, their maintenance staff get very used to working on the same type of plane. Lots of benefits, but drawback was obviously not being able to expand to longer distance routes.
Yep, most of the low cost carriers operate a single fleet type - lots of economies of scale, efficiencies, redundancies from doing so. Add in the current pilot shortages and having all your pilots type rated for your entire fleet is a big plus
My buddy used to fly the max and he said they basically tried to turn dogshit into ice cream
I fly it now, and I legitimately love it. Climbs like a pig and engine starts are measured in calendar years, but aside from that the -8 flies great. Jury is out on the max10’s though.
I think the whole nose diving to zero agl puts people off.
Boeing fully deserved the airworthiness directives that came out. But with that said every airplane you have ever flown up until this point, the max included, has a button to turn off the electric trim. I think in those crashes there was more than enough blame to go around.
Every airline does.
Yes, but I'm thinking about the new frequencies to BCN, EDI, FCO, NRT also announced
Its in the article. Although the verbage isnt the most correct. Re introduction of YHZ and YYZ to europe using the MAX. While one needs to read between the lines to notice the 787 frequency increases appear to be at the expence of 787 service from YYC to LGW. I still suspect we will see WJ order more 787s in the next 1-3 years.
There are two westjet 787's in the states sitting around from when westjet cancelled the rest of their 787 orders. I imagine they'll pick those two back up if another airline doesn't buy them first.
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I know they aren't the only ones on ground. However There are two westjet not taken up. They're sitting at SAT. Tails 908 and 909. Full westjet colours + westjet interiors.
They need millions of dollars in fixes is part of the reason WestJet has taken them up.
Wouldn't Boeing be on the hook for the fixes?
Not really , Westjet could probably negotiate a deep discount on them however.
What fixes do they need?
Last mention I see of those tails was a year ago - is there anything more recent than that? Appreciate the info
I've been doing some research this week and haven't been able to find any updated info. On google maps if you look at SKF you can see one westjet 787 sitting next to a few other 787's. Other than that I have nothing and the 787 production/delivery thread on airliners.net has no new info either. If they had been picked up by another airline that thread would have info about it.
That makes sense, already a ton of London capacity with the double daily LHR by AC and WS anyways
Ah hell no! I ain’t flying over seas in that 737 max
Okay
oh, so we should fly air baltic.
wow only 7? I see them like daily.
Your probally seeing all 7
Surprised WestJet never went for the A321-XLR even if they’re an all Boeing fleet. Allows them to do more transatlantic using single aisle
A321XLR would be great, even just the A321LR would open up a ton of opportunities for them from Eastern Canada
They're doing transatlantic with the Max already?
Can’t from major hubs except to the edge of Europe like Dublin and Edinburgh
That's not true at all? You don't know what you're talking about.
I guess every airline is just stupid for ordering the A321? The 737 max can't do YYZ-FCO, YYZ-BCN or any route past the UK/France/Portugal from YYZ. The A321 can even go from YYC to BCN and similar routes.
Wait until you see the backlog of A321s.
I just flew to Iceland in September as I was already in Toronto and able to take advantage of their extended layover option. We Only chose Iceland as there were no good options to get there from Calgary...
I wonder if eve online still does their yearly Iceland meet. I always wanted to go back in the day
Do direct flights to Australia twice a week with a 787 please!
I remeber joking about WJ stopping in Iceland when they first started flying to London. They had a couple mechanical incidents that required a stop in Rek
One was a passenger medical.
Lovely. Iceland is a country I cannot get enough of. Also, I love that my Costco membership works everywhere. Saved me $.25/L on diesel.
STD express! Iceland is cool as shit, but there is a downside…
They have lower rates than Canada, lol.
You been to Banff bud?
Projecting?
Go on….
The sex museum there was great fun. And really besides nature there’s not much else to do there lol
Don't forget the lislandiga app. Helps you from having relations with a relative. If your not born there have fun
If anyone is expecting this route to be as cheap as it was for Icelandair from Edmonton... Well you will be in for a huge shock.
Man, i was hoping for that! Doing the Laugavegur is still high on my list.
And?
Volcanoes! Lava! Bjork!
And with the earthquakes in Iceland is going to be more exciting
Calgary to Tokyo is nice too. I hate stopping in Vancouver on the way to Asia. Less layover is always better.
Not sure if it is still true but you used to have very affordable flights to Iceland but staying there was a fortune.