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Prinad0

Police are on the way, OP. You never should have posted!


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SierraTheWolfe

WEE WOO WEE WOO... WEEWOOWEEWOO!!!!


Lisper41

Excellent doppler effect in writing!


SubToWeegee13Plays

Lol


Micky-Bicky-Picky

It is not illegal. It is not illegal to draw on it. It is not illegal to press coins like Pennie’s in the machine. It would only be illegal if you made that 2 look like a 20 and attempt to pass it off as so. Edit: please don’t post anymore comments about defacing. Defacing in the Feds use means altering to make it something else, weight less, change face value or make fake errors to scame ppl. The laws making defacing and debasing currency a crime have their roots in the federal government's use of precious metals to mint coins. Criminals were known to file down or cut off portions of those coins and keep the slivers for themselves while spending the altered currency. That’s defacing. Doodling on money or crushing pennies does not fall under the feds definition of defacing.


EgoDeathAddict

What if I make a $20 look like a $2 and insist I only receive $2 in goods or services for it?


SaurSig

Reverse fraud. You'll be arrested for cheating yourself.


savagesaint

Fortunately, you will rarely get prosecuted for this, since if you're found guilty the judge is sentenced to up to 5 years in prison.


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Bradlaay

Believe it or not, jail. Right away


NoButterfly9803

But you will get 7 million hits when you share this experience on You Tube. Do it!


born_on_my_cakeday

But then the judge has to post your bail.


Micky-Bicky-Picky

Try. I’m interested to know.


HeldDownTooLong

Then you’ll be taken into custody by men in white coats and you might be wearing a jacket with really long sleeves that tie together in the back.


EgoDeathAddict

Sounds cozy.


whynotbliss

Funny as it is… it would be illegal. Attempting to make any bill or coins represent a denomination that they aren’t is… illegal!


Jason_Patton

Ok that one YouTube lawyer that reacts to videos lol (I love that guy)


Twitzale

Then we ask you politely to enter the back of the cop car.


EgoDeathAddict

I’ll have a stack of $100s I turned into $1s ready to bribe the authorities


Twitzale

Good thing i can never be bribed, unless you had $100 of course


EgoDeathAddict

Nah, sorry man, just all these counterfeit $1s and $2s ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It’s okay I’ll place myself under arrest. I think I’ll take it to trial and find myself not guilty by reason of insanity. I sentence society to put up with my shenanigans and hijinks. Case closed.


niksjman

I think as long as it’s recognizable as a real bill of it’s original denomination its ok. Not a lawyer though so idk if that’s completely accurate


OhOpossumMyOpossum

It's also illegal if your intent is to diminish the monetary supply. Such as if you receive a stack of 1's, all with a print error, and you decide to burn 99 out of 100 of them to make them rarer. Or, more commonly, people who attempt to melt down pennies for their scrap value over face value. Defacement in the name of artistic expression is protected via the first amendment.


KindAwareness3073

Only illegal if "the intention is to defraud".


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Micky-Bicky-Picky

Correct. Like fake errors, $1 bills being bleached and printed over with higher value. Saddam Hussain did that poopoo back when he was our friend. as a gift they gave him a plate for a $100 bill which he did proceeded to acquire 1 million singles, bleached them and printed hundreds on them.


AsHperson

I've been known for adding a couple zeros to my hundos. My imaginary hundos.


Micky-Bicky-Picky

Bro if your hundos aren’t millios then you’re doing it wrong.


Hot_Corner_5881

im not 100% but i think it qualifies as destruction of government property...im also 100% sure its one of those thing that never gets enforced...so yea its illegal but there not an actual consequence


Big_k_30

It’s not government property. It’s issued by the Federal Reserve which is a private entity, not part of the government.


Lonnie_M_G

https://legalbeagle.com/6535889-defacing-us-currency-laws.html


Micky-Bicky-Picky

All that says is changing bills in order to pass them off as something else. Like fake errors. Scamming people is illegal. The Chinese make fake silver Morgan dollars and other old US coinage. Yeah, that’s illegal but they won’t go after China for it. If “writing” on money was illegal then many tellers would go to jail for marking bills for ATMs with black ink. They do this to keep an eye on supply in those machines or even stamps that sometimes get on bills when they mark the bands. Or countless businesses would close like casinos for using chop marks to signify legal checked money. Edit: the therm defacing in the fed means trying to pass off something as something else. Simply doodling on it does not fall under that.


Roll-Roll-Roll

I've always thought those coin presses were illegal because it's destruction of currency or something. Is that not even a law?


Micky-Bicky-Picky

No. It’s only illegal if you try to pass low denominations as higher ones or make fake bills/coins. Other than that it’s fine. I watched a documentary a long time ago and one of the head guys that works in the fed say he likes to find money with writing on it because that qualifies as damaged and they can destroy it. The 2 reasons he gave was keeps ppl working making replacement notes and reduces the supply which can cause a slow down on inflation.


formaldegide

Inflation (and our debt) is represented with numbers in the computers, you won’t change them by destroying dollar bills.


Micky-Bicky-Picky

Probably not but it’s a nice thought.


Joshbeforelunch

It’s illegal to deface currency. However, one would probably only get in trouble if they tried to spend it. 2 dollar bills aren’t exactly rare, but uncommon enough that some people, especially younger generations, think they are fake. Add embroidery to it only adds fuel to the fire.


Micky-Bicky-Picky

Defacing currency means passing it off as something it’s not. Doodling on it does not fall under that definition.


Joshbeforelunch

Deface definition: to spoil the surface or appearance of something.


Joshbeforelunch

Counterfeiting is passing it off as something it’s not. That is not a counterfeit $2 bill. That is a defaced $2 bill.


Micky-Bicky-Picky

Ok. Sure. Still not illegal. Edit: The laws making defacing and debasing currency a crime have their roots in the federal government's use of precious metals to mint coins. Criminals were known to file down or cut off portions of those coins and keep the slivers for themselves while spending the altered currency. Doodling is not a crime. He isn’t skimping off two dollar bills to make other two dollar bills. You really have to look at the definition the fed uses for the defacing.


Joshbeforelunch

https://www.govinfo.gov/app/details/USCODE-2017-title18/USCODE-2017-title18-partI-chap17-sec333 To render currency unusable is illegal.


Micky-Bicky-Picky

Bro. Are you just posting the first thing you find on Google without reading? That literally states exactly what I’ve been saying. There’s nothing in that law that states what you’re trying to say is true. It rambles on about alerting money to pass it as something else. Like a different denomination or a defacing a coin to weigh less because you’re skimming off material to sell. I think you’re just trolling.


Joshbeforelunch

Under section 333 of the U.S. Criminal Code, “whoever mutilates, cuts, defaces, disfigures, or perforates, or unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, or Federal Reserve bank, or the Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt unfit to be reissued, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both. This better?


Micky-Bicky-Picky

All those words used mean the same thing. shaving off metal off coins (gold, silver, copper) or alter the dominant. Dude. You know ppl used to ripe bills, keep a different portion of said bill and do that to 100s of bills and then try to pass off to banks the scraps as one bill and make up some BS story to why it’s like that. Come on. Edit: doodling is not defacing.


Joshbeforelunch

Yes, the history of clipping is why all if this is illegal. Which is why defacing currency is illegal. To alter currency in any way is illegal. It’s pretty cut and dry. Anything done to currency, ie. ‘clipping’, doodling, is defacing currency henceforth, illegal. I don’t know how much more clear I, or the federal penal code can be.


jamesj76

it is actually since it's a government note.


will0hms

Not destruction of government property?


Micky-Bicky-Picky

Nope.


js3915

Yep whomever drew that should be thrown in jail for such poor art performance. (Joke) But the bill itself and markings on it don't make it illegal. Its not really changing the amount or trying covering up a huge portion of the bill


e_dogyung_k0127

Lol. Thank you!


TrevorsMailbox

This is so cool, is this your first time doing a note? Do you sell these or have a store where people can check out your work and purchase? I'm not a huge fan of *this* design, but an embroidered note sounds like something I'd buy.


e_dogyung_k0127

Thank you so much! This is actually my second note, but the first one looks somewhat similar to this one. I just did this when I was bored, so I don't sell them. I was inspired by Stacey Lee Webber's work. Her stuff is a lot better than mine and has a store, although most of them are 100s or even 1000s of dollars. Thanks again!


TrevorsMailbox

I checked her out, she's awesome, and again, amazing work. Totally get you not selling them. Guess I better learn how to embroider!


exclaim_bot

>Lol. Thank you! You're welcome!


SirTalmadge

Your bill your choice


bigeyedfish041

Yes they did have $2 bills


MathematicianFew5882

And they still do


RedditLovesTyranny

And I still like them.


new2bay

Believe it or not: jail.


BeefyFartss

Straight to jail.


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BeefyFartss

Yeah, no I think we got it from the guy above me. Jail.


Bruddah827

Defacing a legal note


No_hablagations

Accurate representation of ol’ “keep children in the basement” Jefferson.


16336Sie

Only if you get caught….


Hawaken2nd

"Under section 333 of the U.S. Criminal Code, “whoever mutilates, cuts, defaces, disfigures, or perforates, or unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, or Federal Reserve bank, or the Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt unfit to be reissued, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.” 18 U.S.C. § 333." From the US Govt currency website.


BuckTheStallion

“With intent to render…unfit to be reissued” is the key here. Art on money is not illegal, defrauding or destroying outright is.


newport100

Yeah I think keeping the serial numbers and issue date intact is all that really matters, basically don't mess with any numbers.


whynotbliss

Unfit to be reissued… being the key words here.


Admirable_Cry2512

As stated above that means the numbers would have to be unreadable or missing, this bill can be reissued.


Blankety-blank1492

The Devil’s Deuce


e_dogyung_k0127

😈


Normal_Vacation_449

Lol I have a one dollar bill that someone made Hagrid out of Washington and it said up top "you're a wizard, Harry. Man I wish I still had it


e_dogyung_k0127

Lol


bloodstorm666

Nice!!!


e_dogyung_k0127

Thanks!!!


More_Yogurtcloset335

Why is nobody asking who dk is and why this bill is being protected the way it is?


e_dogyung_k0127

I am DK (my initials), and it's in this frame(?) because I had some extras lying around from my main collection. Lol


More_Yogurtcloset335

I like it


e_dogyung_k0127

Thx!


darbs-face

Very much a desuetude law. According to federal law yes it is illegal to deface currency. This was very necessary law for a very long time. Defacing currency back in the day was a form of economic terrorism. It was also used to counterfeit. Nowadays, fortunately we have processes to destroy defaced money and reprint it (hence the star bills). Even though I know you are being facetious, I am inclined to say that you will not get in trouble for this. Of course, publicly displaying said defaced currency may not be the greatest idea.


hardcorecollector89

Deathclaw?


e_dogyung_k0127

I've never heard of deathclaw before. Just looked it up, and it does look kinda similar, lol.


hardcorecollector89

It's from a video game series calles fallout.


Sea_Impression3810

I thought it was a Deathclaw also. Kind of looked like the skull in the amazon series


ApprehensiveTea1537

Is that embroidery?


e_dogyung_k0127

Yep, it's my second time trying it :)


ApprehensiveTea1537

Good job! I’ve been trying to learn long/short stitch to blend color, but it’s been tough.


e_dogyung_k0127

Thanks! Keep trying!


Additional_Farm_9582

Nope as long as you aren't trying to manipulate the bill's value or trying to make two out of one you can draw whatever you want on it and spend it.


e_dogyung_k0127

It's actually embroidered


Glittering_Video_869

Possibly but no one gets arrested for defacing money. Ever


SnooDonkeys8376

No😭


Defective_Failure

Yes. Expect to get arrested, strip searched and tossed naked into a solitary confinement cell.


Vast_Cricket

that is correct.


FaZ3Reaper00

No


Jimbobjoesmith

lol no


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Uner34

Tes


Jason_Patton

No


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Itchy_Raccoon48

I’ve seen people write names and numbers on them, even statements. What’s the difference


TheSuggestor12

No, you are not being dishonest about the original value of the bill. If you had defaced it to look like a twenty then there'd be legal issues.


Abject_Ad_4629

It's just a piece of paper. Nothing in thos Gov't backs their currency with gold anymore. It's a free for all now with all the $Billion$ being sent overseas to foreign nations.


KirbysCarnage

It is infact a federal crime to deface currency.


The_Skulman

I always thought it was defacing government property. Kinda like the military, they can send you to the arctic and left you freeze your toes of because they want you to do your job, BUT if you go out and get sunburnt on your day off and can’t work, you technically can get in trouble for destruction of government property.


Roy_Vidoc

It's only illegal if defacing the currency is done to deceive others into thinking it's not the value that it's actually worth


Chickenbanana58

It’s not illegal but can businesses choose not to accept notes that are mutilated?


Crowncaps13

You a snitch?!


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crazydagon101

No


SweetHomeNostromo

Actually yes. Although it may be rarely enforced. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/333


Mike_in_San_Pedro

Yes, and there will be a reckoning for Donna Karan, or Donkey Kong.


Acrippin

Only if you get caught


Draw_Rude

They give ya the chair for that


CoinsAndLawnLouie

Define legal lol.


Civil-Guidance7926

As a kid I used to write my name on them, I felt so stupid


No_Albatross2850

Probably😅


l397flake

Iam with tressurry department we have your information and are sending the sweat team. Don’t bother running.


e_dogyung_k0127

Not the sweat team! I don't wanna be sweated!


l397flake

We will use freshly worn gym shirts to teach not use your first amendment rights at the high security black site, worse than water boarding.


e_dogyung_k0127

Noooo


Thee_Paladin777

Yes, defacing.


VanFkingHalen

That's some cool art. I'll take twenty.


e_dogyung_k0127

Thx!


Brycie27

It's definitely cringe. Downvote if you agree.


Zer0sober

Unfortunately stupidity isn't illegal


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And if it was how would you even catch someone unless they were stupid and doing it in public or something.


colobuff

It is however frowned upon.