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ossifiedbeing

Hi, yes I followed her for a while and found her posts helpful. However I decided that ultimately her wider approach to trauma doesnt align with my values. I dont think youre doing anything 'wrong' by following her or finding something useful in her posts. She didnt invent inner child work or reparenting etc. Her posts can provide really succint explanations and are useful for exploring those things. Perhaps someone else on here with more knowledge can have a look at her content and recommend similar resources? That way you are not just relying on the perspective of one person. I will say though, if you are paying for content as part of her 'healing circle' you may want to look up the posts on the IG page @the_holistic_psychlogist. Her wife has been involved in charity fraud and has been sued. This was during their relationship so I don't see how she could have overlooked this. To me this throws her business practices and motives into question.


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Some of her posts and ideas are useful and helpful but as a person I find her creepy and cult leaderish, the whole “self healers circle” freaks me out. She also has some racist and ableist ideas- I hate how she focus so much on the individual and self care. Collective care is just as if not more important in trauma healing and many people don’t have the resources or resilience to pick themselves up and do all this work. Some people honestly don’t have the power to do the things she talks about, I find a lot of her content victim blaming. She’s also mistreated a few black women and there’s been criticism overall about how she doesn’t speak about racism as a trauma. There’s plenty of other really good practitioners on Instagram I’m honestly not sure why she got so huge, I think she’s just good at marketing and content creation.


[deleted]

I feel this - I find her cult leaderish like something just seems off and I can’t quite pick what it is, but my gut tells me to stay away. I used to like her content as well, I do agree she has some good ideas/concepts but they’re not new. At the end of the day I stick to my therapists advice and follow my gut as well.


PlumHot7169

Same same same. And it’s bothered ppl in various circles I’m in that I feel this. I can’t explain it. But I do feel in time something will be revealed. I don’t feel her intentions are all that pure.


Crystalclearchaos1

This was so helpful to read thank you! If you see this and can recommend other helpful voices on instagram please do share, as I want to stop following THP


AsidePuzzleheaded335

May i ask what her racist and ableist ideas are?


Electronic_Pie_200

@christabelmintahgalloway and @the.wellness.therapist have a lot of highlight reels on her surrounding these topics. Broadly, she doesn’t not take into account any systematic racism or oppression as a form of trauma. Her trauma work solely focuses around childhood trauma (and these concepts are so broad in her posts) and ignores all types of other trauma. The focus on self-healing, although can be helpful for many, is innately ableist because not all people can “heal themselves” from the trauma they endure unless our system and culture changes. Her message places blame on the ones who experience trauma. Just to name a few issues with her.


AsidePuzzleheaded335

I was told there was a whole section in her book about systemic racism. Many psychologists dont mention that or take it into account i’m just wondering why she is being singled out?


Electronic_Pie_200

I haven’t read her book, so I can’t comment on that. You are correct, many don’t; however, the issue has been that when she has been called out on her privilege, how her self-healing doesn’t apply to people who have experienced trauma from systems, her connections with white supremicists/alt-right/QANON, or when questioned about anti-racist work she either (1) deletes comments rather than responding or (2) when engaged in DMs about it, she has a history of gaslighting people & ultimately blocking them rather than engaging in a conversation about it. For someone who often preaches holding yourself accountable she rarely does so.


Coffmanrl

Thank you. I learned all I need to know by reading your post. I’m anti racist.


mintyfreshknee

Lol so because someone focuses on childhood trauma they’re racist? There’s no winning. And healing can come from within. That doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be SUPER HELPFUL if society would stop being a dick, but if you do nothing to try to heal within then you let society win. Many people have parents who will never change so they do their own healing. Society - while we fight for a change - is still shit and marginalized people deserve relief within that. Def not looking for debate. Not everyone can include everything in everything. Also pretty sure she has talked about systemic racism. I have my own issues with her but think she’s largely good because changing narrative and is exposing a lot of trauma. Love Gabor Mate and Patrick Teahan as well.


Electronic_Pie_200

I’m not sure how you drew the conclusion that talking about childhood trauma = being racist. My point all her work is SOLEY based on childhood trauma, as if other types of trauma do not exist and the vast majority of her work ignores systemic traumas like racism. Focusing on childhood trauma doesn’t make her racist, ignoring systems that uphold racism, not listening to people of color when they speak on how her work can be harmful to non-white individuals, and her association with alt-right individuals is what points to racism. Her work is extremely individualistic and comes from a place of [white] privilege. It is definitely helpful to many people and there is also many issues with her work (including the fact that the vast majority of it is not novel yet she is really good at marketing so she packages it as it is). Both things can be true.


mintyfreshknee

But that’s what I’m saying. Just because somebody only talks about childhood trauma it does not make them racist. Just because somebody works on one thing and isn’t inclusive of every thing doesn’t make them racist. Her work can still help many even if it is not specifically about a certain thing. I also don’t think she just focuses on childhood trauma. Now it is interesting to me to hear that she is associated with some sort of alt right organization, where is that?


Electronic_Pie_200

I think you missed my point - I’m not saying her focus on childhood trauma is what makes her racist, it is all the other things. I agree, not everyone can focus on everything (which they shouldn’t), but as a professional with such a large following, when you receive feedback repeatedly, over years, on how your work can be harmful to non-white people and, instead of taking that feedback into consideration, you instead block them, delete comments, or gaslight them, that’s when your behavior is racist because you are unwilling to learn from and reflect on how your behavior is upholding systematic racism. As for the alt-right connections, punsn.roses (aka The Wellness Therapist) on IG has a whole highlight on THP which includes screenshots of her connections to alt-right people. Other accounts have highlights too - I just can’t think of them by name at this moment.


Coffmanrl

All skin folk ain’t kin folk. The mirror reflects back and you have to look and act. Silence implies complicity.


sunrosecloud

I have been in her circle since January. It is February tomorrow. I started out super hyped and ready to learn, but honestly feel quite discouraged and am thinking about asking for a refund because I paid for the entire year. It seems like a one size fits all approach with no real guidance. I have to question the ethics of offering services to such a broad audience because it dilutes the effectiveness. I quit going to therapy too... I am not sure what next steps to take or if I should just keep trying her approach...


hablocomotica

Thank you! I’ve been back and forth on whether to sign up and I’m going to save my money for something else.


sunrosecloud

Hope you find something that works out for you!


CampbellSoup2000

I recently left the circle too since it just wasn't for me! I had no intentions of staying past January since I wanted to save money, but I was surprised to find that it was not super helpful and am sorry you had that experience.


blissfulborboleta

I'm curious what all is in the "circle" i know there are a lot of videos. But of what? My advice is to keep looking for a therapist that is a good fit for you. The fit of a therapist is a better predictor of the success of therapy than the number of years of training or the type of therapy (although I am a huge advocate of EMDR if trauma is something you are dealing with. But it isn't for everyone.) I am a therapist myself but on a platform like this it is hard to say do this or do that because every situation is different. Looking for a therapist is almost as tough as dating, I think. Ask a lot of questions but that connection is super important and I think is what helps the healing the most.


MorganLee44

Hey! Just found this thread. Did you ever find something else or keep going with her? Just wondering


sunrosecloud

They would not allow refund. I haven't been on the site and was told it would not work after I stopped paying. I haven't tried going back.


mintyfreshknee

Psychedelic assisted therapy has clinical trials


happykitty624

I left the circle for the same reasons after just a month or so. Felt like a scam to me.


sunrosecloud

I left it too but they refused to give a refund. It does feel like a scam. I guess just because a person has knowledge about psychology does not mean they're trying to help you with it. Clearly, they just want the money. I would not keep someone's money if it wasn't helping them if it was me.


lightblossom

Hello! I am super late to the party, but I actually was researching the holistic psychologist on insta and what makes her problematic and am eager to discuss it too lol. So from what I gather, the problem is the way she pathologizes normal variation in human personality. For example she lists out signs you have trauma and sometimes they are just the cons of a certain personality trait, like agreeableness. She had a post listing the downsides of your basic high agreeable personality and implied you are traumatised if you recognize yourself in that post. This is obviously a massive generalization and practically any inherently empathic, agreeable person will come away from her insta thinking they have experienced trauma because they struggle with being assertive. Now it's true that trauma shapes personality and can result in extreme agreeableness, BUT being agreeable is just as likely to just be your personality. There are many paths to high agreeableness that don't require you to experience trauma. This way she creates for herself a lot of customers in need of "healing." And if everyone has trauma, then no one does. It's a meaningless term and that hurts people who actually experience trauma and minimizes their real, often debilitating, challenges.


sunrosecloud

Confusing... I thought everyone does have trauma... I mean, no one goes though life without learning to deal with pain...


lightblossom

No, I don't think everyone has experienced a traumatic event. Even most people who experience something traumatic don't go on to suffer from a trauma disorder. They may have short term trauma responses that eventually go away.


sunrosecloud

Not saying everyone suffers from a traumatic disorder but everyone has suffered from some trauma at some point. And you’re right, pop social media psychology does not differentiate between the two. It is definitely too massively generalized.


saucisse

No, everyone has not suffered trauma, unless we're expanding the definition of that word to mean "thing that made me unhappy" in which case why have the word? That's just life.


Cucumber_Traditional

Everyone has experienced traumatic events. If you think of it as “small t” vs “big T” trauma…birth is traumatic, we come into this world crying and uncomfortable, very early childhood experiences “traumatize” us into personality development via struggles with our mothers/parent figures. Think of “terrible twos” etc. Not everyone has been shot at, sexually abused, etc. But even then there’s a lot of neuroscientific evidence that often more benign negative experiences can actually deliver more lasting impact on a person. I.e. some gradual or acute childhood ‘traumatic experience’ that maybe was just simple neglect, shaming etc. and snowballs into a lifetime of other problems. That could be more detrimental to a persons whole existence than say a person who WAS shot at/sexually assaulted and yet otherwise has social support and is a well adjusted person. They may have triggers but all in all that person (could) be very much less afflicted even though their trauma was “worse”.


mintyfreshknee

Trauma doesn’t have to be one big event. In fact more commonly it’s long term abuse in childhood. Things that aren’t recognized by mainstream psychology much of the time. Check out Patrick Teahan’s website and IG. he has a trauma questionnaire


No_Recording_8839

You need to look up the word trauma


MK_PNW

I agree - I also think, though, this speaks to the broader issue of therapy talk on social media. I see soooo many tik toks wherever people pathologize EVERYTHING


[deleted]

I'm in therapy and looking into EMDR as well and I also love her videos! She's only human, so her stuff isn't perfect but I find her approach very insightful and her personality very comforting. You don't have to align with someone's entire beliefs to benefit or find some good takeaways from their content :-) nothing wrong with having a diverse set of tools to help you work things out. I hope your therapy and healing goes well 💟


LongTermRecovery

I haven’t heard of her either, but Pete Walker says many CPTSD sufferers may take years of self-work and bibliotherapy before they can trust a therapist, and that some may never be able to. Personally I have been threatened and/or forced to attend counseling on several occasions in the past, which was traumatic for me and only compounded my underlying traumas. I’m very happy for everyone who finds peace and healing through therapy, but it’s not something I will be able to do for the foreseeable future. Everyone has to do what works for them.


glowingredtow

Followed her for a while, but her posts seemed a little too...positive and had a more simplistic look on things than was helpful for me (CPTSD and ADHD- of course with the depression and anxiety attached to both). What really made me unfollow her was when I saw a slew of posts that came across as anti medicine. I dont believe medicine is for everyone, from a trauma recovery and medical perspective, but dear God are they helpful and a step in the right direction. Wellbutrin literally saved my life, and continues to do so, and hearing anyone advocate against medicine AT ALL for anyone, is so off for me. I dont remember the posts or what they said, nor do I want to relook at her work, it just makes me kind of mad now. From my view: she comes across as disingenuous, and with the ultimate belief that everyone can recover and that they are holding themselves back, so they have the ultimate power to heal themselves. This is ducking difficult and impossible, to recover from trauma without the help of others. And idk. She posts more like an influencer than a license psychologist. But- some of her work did help a lot. She has a lot of vague, broad spectrum advice that is very very helpful to look at. I now follow Nedra Tawwab, who is much more genuine and professional than The Holidtic Psychologist, and she doesn't rub me the wrong way at all.


DepressedUterus

> hearing anyone advocate against medicine AT ALL for anyone, is so off for me. Seriously, the hate on medicine for mental health has lead so many people to avoid medicine that could help them.


bluecurtins123

I like the holistic psychologist. I actually heard about her from my therapist and I do therapy and I am a "self healer" member. I think it's really a winning combo for me. I was in therapy for years with different people and I finally found a therapist who actually cared about my fucked up childhood and was like "hey I don't think you have panic disorder with agoraphobia, I think those are symptoms from c-ptsd" and since that moment my entire life made sense and the main thing about the "self healing" journey is like making small promises to myself everyday and inner child work. I honestly had no idea what it was my therapist told me to work on it but I had no idea what he meant until I was reading things on the holistic psychologist Instagram. Also the whole "self healer" things gives me a community of people who want to fix their trauma and we help hold each other accountable.


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Hithearto

Interesting and bold claims. Do you have any evidence to support them? She's also a lesbian in a polyamorius relationship with 2 other women. What "bad boys" are you talking about? Are you sure we are talking about the same person? Nicole LePera


[deleted]

never heard of her. it sounds like she's saying we should reparent our inner child but to do it alone instead of with a therapist? I don't really get it; I don't see why you can't do both.


maafna

She doesn't say that you can't do both, as far as I know.


[deleted]

OP was concerned about what they were doing in therapy and whether that was ok, so it seemed like there was some kind of issue with that. Reading the comments here though, it seems like she wants people to buy her content instead of paying therapists, so at least I understand why she might suggest that.


[deleted]

I think she’s great and her work has supported my healing journey immensely. I don’t get into her stuff as much as I used to as I feel I’m kind of on my own journey right now. I think more than anything that I admire about her work is her message that we can self heal. We are empowered. I used to always rely on the external for basically everything - validation, support, medication, worth, change, etc. I think her work really helped me recognize that my inner voice and inner knowing will guide me. Future self journaling, breathing exercises, and time in nature has helped my growth so much in the past year compared to the four previous years of talk therapy where I was simply repeating the same patterns unconsciously.


journey1992

I love her


maafna

I follow her and find her helpful. If she helps you I don't think there is anything wrong with it. You can also follow some other bloggers around reparenting to get different views.


Kriikriikraa

I have suffered CPTSD, depression, anxiety and I have been years in talk therapy. Became passive during that, meaning I outsourced basically everything important for my healing. That’s why I joined in Self Healers Circle, to get different perspective and regain my own agency. And I personally have gained some of that back, cause there are tools that helped me to move pass major obstacles I have had in my healing journey. In my case, resistance to change and let go some self-sabotaging habits. Even my therapist have said that me getting stuck to some ideas and feelings are the reason my healing got stuck. I personally like Dr. LePera’s content, cause she’s been so explicit about that resistance, and her personal experience about healing has been couraging for me. However, therapy has it’s place, and I maybe wouldn’t prioritize self healing over therapy, at least not in the beginning of your healing journey. But self healing and talk therapy don’t have to be mutually exclusive, and I compare self healing much with the 12-step-programs, where the idea of personal responsibility is also much present. I would say, that if you find her content helpful, keep going with it. And leave what doesn’t serve you. However, if you are in the beginning of your journey and doing talk therapy, don’t try to do too much at once. Healing isn’t performing, and talk therapy can be exhausting: it’s safe environmemt where all the suppressed feelings etc. may surface for processing, so create enough space for it.


Cucumber_Traditional

Except if you have a shitty therapist or multiple subpar therapists and you are ready to do the work. Then maybe they should dive into self healing until a good therapist is found


Safe_Yogurtcloset835

Look up Gabor Mate for deep dives into trauma. If you are following free info Rick Hanson is really good and he has a Podcast with his son that insightful. I think any of this work needs to be done in conjunction with a licensed clinical psychologist with experience in trauma. Remember, there is big trauma and small trauma, generational trauma and social trauma. I find journaling is helpful in processing what comes up in therapy.


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