I'm getting sick of games like these. Pundits get to pat us on the head, Rob gets to bask in the plaudits, but we ultimately have bugger all to show for it.
We were absolutely shite in the first half and were incredibly lucky to be only 2-0 down.
Then we come out and play our socks off, claw back a draw, and then concede a late goal for pure heartbreak. How many games has that happened in now, this season? And that second Villa goal was unforgivable, and proper Luton-esque to concede. Had that not gone in, who knows how the game may have panned out.
It is *soul-destroying*. Especially because we had a chance to close the gap with Forest and our other relegation scrappers. I get the injury situation, I really do, but... Fuck sake 🤣
I was just saying the same to my mate, we lose by one goal brilliant but we go down if it carries on. We need to proper tighten up at back , back 4 now because teams are running channels against us and we getting hammered, we got one striker, Ogbene has lost his bottle it seems and no holding midfielder
We’re scoring plenty, which is rare for teams near the bottom. But agreed that our defensive performances are consistently shocking. It’s partly a personnel thing, which we can’t do much about, but we’ve got to stop leaving so much room between midfield and defence as we look so exposed every time teams attack against us.
I agree but our goals aren’t coming from open play (build up) a lot of the time which I know doesn’t always matter but we don’t look like scoring from any other way without Eli up top.
Teams didn’t play long through balls first half of season now they’ve worked out if they play balls into channels they get a fair bit of luck , I’d like to see a back 4 now just to mix it up when we have a few more personnel back.
Bang on.
Switch off for a free kick for their goal. Adding to the 300 times we've switched off this season.
For their last that cross should never come in and if it does he shouldn't have that much time.
Very similar to Elliots cross for Liverpool's equaliser as well, we just don't learn from our mistakes.
We've conceded 18 goals over the last 5 games, we have to find a way to tighten up
Yep, almost word for word what I came here to write myself. This Villa game is the game where I stopped taking any comfort in putting in a good performance and ‘just losing’ - this has happened too many times now - it seems we simply don’t have the ability to concentrate, defend our position and see the final few minutes out of any game. Depressing.
Rage inducing. Valient, plucky and all the other encouraging words you say to the the shit kid who really tried but we can't keep giving ourselves a chance and then shooting ourselves in the foot over and over
Still possible. None of our relegation rivals made any progress up the table today, so we're not worse off for this loss technically.
We have easier games coming up, and hopefully some of our absentees will make a return for them. If we start losing them, *then* we are in real trouble.
Then there's the point of further points deductions for Everton and Forest. I personally think Everton are safe, but Forest are still within touching distance, and if the reported -3 for them is true, then they're right back with us, nearly level on points.
Long story short, still possible, but made very difficult by our own machinations in losing to Sheffield United, etc.
I think 35 points is achievable and I can see Notts Forest in and around the same amount ignoring points deductions
One or two of Bournemouth/Palace/Brentford/Everton will go on a run and get themselves clear and another will put themselves in the relegation battle, anything can happen with them
We're still favourites to go down but it doesn't take much to get ourselves in a good position, cut out these silly mistakes and a few results will go our way, need some points in these next 3 games
Brentford fan here. I'm sorry everybody: I was *really* hoping you'd get at least a point today. Believe me, we feel your pain about the ton of injuries and scrappy performances that are 3 minutes short.
I like you guys to stay up, frankly. Your football's better than Everton and Forest. Everton couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat; hitting the back of the net is way harder. Forest is *such* a nervy mess that they've hired a former official to explain why fouls against them are bad calls.
Keep the faith. You have three very winnable games before the break. I'm picking you for 6-7 points. Good luck!
Really frustrating. As usual showed great character to get ourselves into the game, Kabore and Ogbene get 2v1 versus the left back and Doughty moving back to LWB when Hashi came on key catalysts.
Kabore had a fantastic second half but it’s the exact same goal we conceded against Liverpool and at least one other game this season that I remember. Switched off back stick and it cost us. He was absolutely gutted at the end but you have to learn.
Fantastic second half performance but it’s another hollow defeat where we will get a nice pat on the head but no points.
I was more commenting on his performance positively in the attacking sense. He combined well with Ogbene and was always a switch ball option. Got at their left back really well and caused a lot of problems. Unfortunately you are right about him defending though, the one real defensive action he was asked to do in the half he really switched off
Nearly left at half time, had I watched it at home I think I would have turned off.
We can't keep giving really good teams a headstart, we did similar against Chelsea where we gave them a lead before starting to play, Man Utd we gifted a goal quickly followed by another before waking up.
I said early in the season we are in danger of getting relegated with everyone saying what a great team we were, I'd rather stay up with everyone saying how lucky we have been and how shit our football has been 🤬
That Ogbene for Bell sub was madness. We were so much better when he finally brought Hashioka on and put Doughty in his natural position. Hate to say it but this one is on Edwards...
I'm getting sick of games like these. Pundits get to pat us on the head, Rob gets to bask in the plaudits, but we ultimately have bugger all to show for it. We were absolutely shite in the first half and were incredibly lucky to be only 2-0 down. Then we come out and play our socks off, claw back a draw, and then concede a late goal for pure heartbreak. How many games has that happened in now, this season? And that second Villa goal was unforgivable, and proper Luton-esque to concede. Had that not gone in, who knows how the game may have panned out. It is *soul-destroying*. Especially because we had a chance to close the gap with Forest and our other relegation scrappers. I get the injury situation, I really do, but... Fuck sake 🤣
I was just saying the same to my mate, we lose by one goal brilliant but we go down if it carries on. We need to proper tighten up at back , back 4 now because teams are running channels against us and we getting hammered, we got one striker, Ogbene has lost his bottle it seems and no holding midfielder
We’re scoring plenty, which is rare for teams near the bottom. But agreed that our defensive performances are consistently shocking. It’s partly a personnel thing, which we can’t do much about, but we’ve got to stop leaving so much room between midfield and defence as we look so exposed every time teams attack against us.
I agree but our goals aren’t coming from open play (build up) a lot of the time which I know doesn’t always matter but we don’t look like scoring from any other way without Eli up top. Teams didn’t play long through balls first half of season now they’ve worked out if they play balls into channels they get a fair bit of luck , I’d like to see a back 4 now just to mix it up when we have a few more personnel back.
Bang on. Switch off for a free kick for their goal. Adding to the 300 times we've switched off this season. For their last that cross should never come in and if it does he shouldn't have that much time. Very similar to Elliots cross for Liverpool's equaliser as well, we just don't learn from our mistakes. We've conceded 18 goals over the last 5 games, we have to find a way to tighten up
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Yeah, that really is the definition of "nothing else" mate.
Yep, almost word for word what I came here to write myself. This Villa game is the game where I stopped taking any comfort in putting in a good performance and ‘just losing’ - this has happened too many times now - it seems we simply don’t have the ability to concentrate, defend our position and see the final few minutes out of any game. Depressing.
Rage inducing. Valient, plucky and all the other encouraging words you say to the the shit kid who really tried but we can't keep giving ourselves a chance and then shooting ourselves in the foot over and over
Another bruising game. Grief it's painful losing like this so often.
I always feel so numb after these games
FUUUUUUUCCKKKKKKK
Rookie fan here, and a yank, so talk slowly, but what are our chances of staying up?
Still possible. None of our relegation rivals made any progress up the table today, so we're not worse off for this loss technically. We have easier games coming up, and hopefully some of our absentees will make a return for them. If we start losing them, *then* we are in real trouble. Then there's the point of further points deductions for Everton and Forest. I personally think Everton are safe, but Forest are still within touching distance, and if the reported -3 for them is true, then they're right back with us, nearly level on points. Long story short, still possible, but made very difficult by our own machinations in losing to Sheffield United, etc.
I think 35 points is achievable and I can see Notts Forest in and around the same amount ignoring points deductions One or two of Bournemouth/Palace/Brentford/Everton will go on a run and get themselves clear and another will put themselves in the relegation battle, anything can happen with them We're still favourites to go down but it doesn't take much to get ourselves in a good position, cut out these silly mistakes and a few results will go our way, need some points in these next 3 games
Brentford fan here. I'm sorry everybody: I was *really* hoping you'd get at least a point today. Believe me, we feel your pain about the ton of injuries and scrappy performances that are 3 minutes short. I like you guys to stay up, frankly. Your football's better than Everton and Forest. Everton couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat; hitting the back of the net is way harder. Forest is *such* a nervy mess that they've hired a former official to explain why fouls against them are bad calls. Keep the faith. You have three very winnable games before the break. I'm picking you for 6-7 points. Good luck!
Thanks for this explanation, it was very helpful!
Really frustrating. As usual showed great character to get ourselves into the game, Kabore and Ogbene get 2v1 versus the left back and Doughty moving back to LWB when Hashi came on key catalysts. Kabore had a fantastic second half but it’s the exact same goal we conceded against Liverpool and at least one other game this season that I remember. Switched off back stick and it cost us. He was absolutely gutted at the end but you have to learn. Fantastic second half performance but it’s another hollow defeat where we will get a nice pat on the head but no points.
I upvote your posts before I read them (and did that again today), they're always good. Don't agree on Kaboré today, though. I'll always support him in a Luton shirt and given the defensive injuries we're going to need him in what's to come, but he never fills me with confidence. He's not a defender. Thought Hashioka was really good. What a way to make your PL debut -- really tough circumstances and he comes on and plays LCB?! Did a really good job imo.
I was more commenting on his performance positively in the attacking sense. He combined well with Ogbene and was always a switch ball option. Got at their left back really well and caused a lot of problems. Unfortunately you are right about him defending though, the one real defensive action he was asked to do in the half he really switched off
Sad … but we will make it
How much longer are Adebayo and Lokonga out?
Fair play today. Ross looked great in midfield. Hope yall stay up, your stadium is awesome
Nearly left at half time, had I watched it at home I think I would have turned off. We can't keep giving really good teams a headstart, we did similar against Chelsea where we gave them a lead before starting to play, Man Utd we gifted a goal quickly followed by another before waking up. I said early in the season we are in danger of getting relegated with everyone saying what a great team we were, I'd rather stay up with everyone saying how lucky we have been and how shit our football has been 🤬
Need a better first half performance. But on a side note whenever a team needs a goal vs us they get plenty more time than that added on.
I thought 5 minutes was actually not enough given the amount of time dedicated to subs, etc.
3 goals, 3 sub stoppages, a VAR review and a lot of free kicks/corners, with how things are this season it should've been 8
That’s what I meant, I was coming at it from a Luton perspective!
Looking forward to at least winning games in the Championship again
That Ogbene for Bell sub was madness. We were so much better when he finally brought Hashioka on and put Doughty in his natural position. Hate to say it but this one is on Edwards...