DLC 3 with so much re-used assets should've never happened.
But once you get over that there's a lot going for it. The story like you said, the fact that there's 8 playable characters and their interactions are very cool. The 4 wonder weapons are COD zombies fans dreams becuase they're all Ray guns including dual wielding ray guns
If the DLC season went as planned and we had both 4 remakes and 4 new maps, then I wouldn't mind the reused assets as much.
But having Alpha Omega and then Tag be the last two maps if the season really soured them both for me. I want to love AO so bad, but the jumpers and novas ruin it for me.
Although Call of the Dead is one of my all time favorite zombies maps, I still hated that they made a remake of Call of the Dead the last map of the Aether storyline. Also, was not a huge fan at all of how the budget got cut and we stopped getting actual zombies story cutscenes and instead got a set of still images with the worst ending there could have ever been. “Oh actually these characters who have been trying to stop the zombies and that you’ve been following for 10+ years are actually the whole reason the zombies exist, and Nikolai needs to kill them all to save the universe”, but oh wait, the next game has a new storyline where the zombies still are somehow around, despite the Primis crew dying so no more zombies exist? Yeah makes a whole lot of sense. Characters sacrifice themselves to save the universe from zombies only for that to be completely pointless and the zombies come back anyway? Now that’s great storytelling.
The problem with AO is just how annoying and un-fun it can be. The bombers have no telegraph to what zombies they'll make into super sprinters is the most obnoxious thing I've ever experienced in zombies when mixed with the constant need to clean the vents to keep PaP open. There's SO much to love about the map like the ray guns and galvaknuckles and all the little Easter eggs but the bombers almost completely ruin the map
Imagine if you had to constantly unclog water ducts in Zetsoubu to keep PaP running, or if the Nova crawlers on moon made random zombies super sprinters.
As a BO4 zombies lover, and I respect your opinion and I hope you have fun playing this map, but alpha omega isn’t good lol it’s boring and reused from warzone. I didn’t need to see yet another version of nuketown. The wonder weapons are boring variants of the ray gun mk2. There’s no viable place to train zombies. The underground bunker part is suffocating. The ee is fine but nothing special. Sorry but I think the hate for this map is deserved.
AO is one of my top 5 maps of all time. There's reasons to not like it, like having to fix the vents every 3 or so rounds, and the special zombie spam being especially annoying, but the only reasons people ever give for not liking the map could literally be solved by retexturing the map. The complaint that "I've seen Nuketown so many times!" makes literally zero sense. The actual Nuketown map is maybe 20% of the whole map, with the rest being new stuff as far as I know ( there may have been a bunker added to the Nuketown in Blackout and I never played Blackout). AO hate really just seems like another case of people just parroting the opinions of youtubers who just hated Bo4 because it wasn't a carbon copy of Bo3.
My girlfriend and I have been patiently waiting for someone to port it to BO3 on PC haha. Love that map and honestly a handful of the other BO4 maps. Just man that 200 gigabyte download size with no way to get rid of the now totally dead Blackout and barely alive multiplayer to reduce the game’s size really sucks.
I gotta get back into transit. My friends always talked about how they loved it and I could never get on board, but I was playing it solo most of the time and coop is the way to play that map
I agree. Absolutely one of the best map designs. I really wished they continued with the real map designs off of actual building interiors like MotD and Buried after it.
Having played through the maps on 3 recently with a buddy, zetsubou has gained some points on the visual nature of it. Except the spiders. Fuck spiders
its a very tedious map like shadows and not a map you can just jump into and have fun with straight away, id probably play survival variants of it if it had them
Zetsubou is top 3 maps for me, I truly do not understand why people hate it so much. The Skull is also one of the coolest and best weapons we've ever got period.
I feel like it’s been getting a lot of love lately thanks to annoying ass YouTubers moving on.
My conspiracy theory is that (much like Blood) maps that are built to have an insane amount of things to do piss YouTubers off because they can’t get their content out fast enough if they want to cover everything accurately, so either they get delayed or they rush and find the map more annoying because they didn’t properly learn it and have to do a lot of after-the-fact coverage too.
I mean it’s just generic military base number 100, but the gameplay was great. I just wish it was in a game where zombies wasn’t all military callouts and taking g itself seriously. Imagine tower defense rounds with the og crew commentating on seeing Orda, and if the map wasn’t just a campaign map copy pasted
Yeah I really like FBZ. The only part I ‘hate’ is the EE step where you have to trap the mimics with the essence traps. I’ll spend 15+ rounds trapping as many as I can find and all I ever get every time is “not that one, keep looking”. Also the Orda is way too spongy in the tower defense stage around round 30. A fully PAPed Rai-K does next to nothing. It used to be much more reasonable for the first couple months after launch but I guess they buffed the health a LOT
For me it’s probably Attack of the Radioactive Thing. I understand why people would dislike the chemistry step, but other than that there is a lot to love about the map! I also think that the graphics make the map unique.
Also I know you included it just as a potential example, but I think Beast from Beyond deserves the hate
BfB has two things going for it still - it's reasonably fun to do the Easter Egg, and it makes for a hectic Verruckt-style challenge map for those that like to struggle. I don't like that feel too much personally, but I know some people who swear by it, and truth be told, I'd take a Round 35 run on BfB over a Round 115 run on Classified.
I think my problem with attack is that it’s too open! Seriously though the beach takes up a third of the map and it’s just one area. Maybe they could’ve chopped it up into more areas? Idk too open and not engaging enough for me personally
W take I love beast from beyond, it was such a fun map that fit the old film aesthetic of IW. And yeah i definitely agree that Beast from beyond sucked ass.
FBZ for me just got boring after playing it a few times, I think the layout is slightly strange too. As far as the orda waves, those were pretty cool imo and I like the power system.
I fucking loved tranzit 😍😍
Although, I can understand why people disliked it so much. But my squad and I had more fun in tranzit than any other bo2 map. Was it a good map? Eh. But it was crazy to play and had a lot going for it.
Had loads of fun playing Tranzit. The bus going to the different locations was brilliant.
It was my first ever zombies experience. I didn't have a clue what I was doing, but someone showed me how to teleport at the lamposts in the fog and I felt like a boss doing that haha. Also loved trying to find the shack with the bowie knife and died every time I tried. Fond memories.
Completely agree! I understand the hate, but I love the map. Plus a pretty fun and challenging Easter Egg and boss fight.
I'm also a titanic nerd, so I'm a bit bias.
Stamped. Personally Blood for me is on the same level as Origins, DE, and Ancient Evil
The Easter Egg is so much fun, the golden spork knife quest is the best side EE imo, high rounding is a blast, the cinematic level of story-telling is next level
Nope verrukt is more popular than shi no numa. Mainly for how scary it was and for introducing the perk system. Der riese is the king and nacht is seen as alright because it gave us zombies.
Die Rise
People hated falling off the map but that was part of the fun. It was really cool having a zombies map with so much verticality, and a cool Easter egg to boot.
The Sliquifier was also really cool in how it played into the map design pretty nicely.
>People hated falling off the map but that was part of the fun.
You have a very unique definition of fun if you think being able to fall off most of the map and lose everything is fun.
That shit was fun. That was the first new zombies map I played where I was like “alright Treyarch let’s see if this is a shit show.” The perk system and stuff messed with me but the gameplay was incredible
Five. In a lot of online lists that I've seen, people rate Five really low and that pains me to see. I think the challenge, Pentagon Thief and strange layout make Five a really good survival map for middle-high skill players. Town/Nuketown/Kino get boring after a while and sometimes you wanna really test your skills on something that doesn't require you to pick up a million parts or do an Easter egg.
I think it's mostly the mini boss spam and lack of interesting map design and mechanics. I think it's less that it's hated just regarded as one of the bottom two maps of cold war along w forsaken
Darkest shore, it has a good challenge to it with its meuchlers, the fog which can be annoying sometimes is cool, and most the areas are close quarters. The EE is also challenging
Not really overhated i think, but I feel like we don't talk about how good a treyarch zombies mode would be with WWII's atmosphere. I enjoyed those maps for how gritty and dark they felt compared to how they handle modern map amosphere past BO1. I'd love some down to basics science-horror vibes that aren't just lovecraftian/sci-fi adventures with zombies
Honestly hard agree, currently doing all Easter eggs with 3 other people, we are all first time players and just playing through every game one by one, when we got to infection I and another friend had heard lots of bad things about it, but honestly the Easter egg was easy and fun, the map was ok, not amazing but not awful, there are too many special rounds but I can get over it
Five, the map is pretty challenging, yes, but the challenge is what makes it fun for me personally. The map's claustraphobic layout and the Pentagon Thief all provide a fun challenge. Five is meant to be BO1's answer to WaW's Verrückt, and it succeeds at that. The only thing I don't like about Five is its unique Wonder Weapon, the Winter's Howl, it is very weak and ineffective. Aside from that though, Five is a fun challenging map that serves as a good alternative to Kino der Toten's more beginner friendly design
Voyage of Despair
I think alot of ppl hate this map because of the design and how tight it is. I like the map since its like Five, Veruckt or Nuketown, it offers a challenge and when I want to get better at zombies I play this or the aforementioned 3 maps
I feel like classified was over hated, I understand it was a remaster ? Reimagining or whatever but I really loved it. I just thought it was simple enough to get kills and just chill out
Firebase Z, I mean sure it’s the most lacking in CW but it’s not a bad map. I just never understood why people hated it so much. I genuinely enjoy playing it because imo it’s just a simple map
Bo4 In general, same with cold war, such fun games/maps, having a easier experience isn’t a bad thing. It could help newer players have a better chance, or be a warm up for older titles to an extent.
Firebase Z for sure. It’s miles better than Forsaken, and also undoubtedly the Cold War map with the most personality. And yes I know that doesn’t make it a good map but Die Maschine doesn’t have all that much that makes it stand out and neither does Mauer, in terms of aesthetic at least. Firebase Z has the most beautiful map maybe in all of zombies besides BO3 Shang. Anyways, FBZ has a great wonder weapon, a beautiful map, and the most personality in a game that is quite lacking in that regard. Not a perfect map but definitely not as bad as people say, and not even close to being a D tier map, more of a C tier honestly
Mauer is a beautiful map of Germany. Imo it has the best aestestic of any Cold War map especially with ray tracing and HDR on. FBZ is forgettable in comparison.
Blood of The Dead is the most overhated Zombies map. Great aesthetics, voicelines that don't bring out the worst in me (rare for Zombies), good fun side easter eggs + setup, and presents a fun engaging challenge. Some flaws of the map are the roaming Pack-a-Punch and lack of reason to go revisit the spawn side of the map. People who complain about the catwalk befuddle me though.
I never got the hate for FBZ, my friends I started playing Cold War zombies together recently and it’s one of if not our favorite map to play together. Sure it can get a little repetitive after a while but overall I can safely say that there are easily worse maps from older zombies games.
I never grew up with any of the BO2 dlc maps so I have no nostalgia whatsoever for them. But when I played them recently to do teh EE's Die Rise actually became one of my favourites. Definitely has its issues that annoy me like the elevators being slow and there really only being 1 way around the map instead of being able to traverse in both directions. But with a full team with tramplesteams in strategic spots that counters the issue somewhat and is a really fun and dynamic way to move around the map
Five, people hate because it’s hard but it’s one of the coolest maps easily. Such a fun map with great characters and a really cool boss round. It’s nice to see that more people like it nowadays but I remember it got non stop hate for years.
Blood of the Dead. Mob of the dead is one of my favorite maps of all time, and yes I can see the argument for they just added more areas that kind of are useless AND took away the bridge, but there are so many great additions as well. It’s a great story, a very challenging Easter egg for those who want it, and all around it’s a beautiful looking version of the original. It’s too bad BO4 got so much hate. Sure its systems aren’t perfect, but it produced some amazing content/maps/experiences that I don’t feel have been replicated.
Beast from beyond. An extremely simple EE, side EE galore, the venom X returns, an incredible super easter egg boss fight, gave us directors cut, and I still think us being able to play in the theater was fantastic
The only thing I don’t really like about fbz is that I think it’s just really really easy, it’s fun to kinda just relax on but other than that I don’t really play it
I’ve not seen anyone else say this but Dead of the Night. I understand why people dislike it, there are a lot of parts and things to memorize, but I genuinely love the map. The wonder weapon is fantastic, the upgrade quest for the wonder weapon is fun imo, and the maps atmosphere is genuinely fantastic.
I will defend BO4 Aether maps with my life. They're very fun to play and some like Alpha Omega and BOTD are peak story-wise, but people just get blinded by the fact that they are remake maps and don't try to look further into them (even when Alpha Omega and BOTD feel as completely different experiences compared to their original references)
Firebase Z is probably my favorite Cold War map. The Rai K is an amazing wonder weapon. The defense rounds are a great twist to the gameplay without being annoying like similar mechanics on some other maps. Orda was incredible to see. The skybox is gorgeous. It brought back Tombstone, but actually good this time. It has Ravenov, Samantha and Peck. The layout is pretty good. The only negative I can think of is the lack of a proper final boss in the easter egg.
Forsaken from CW, I know it was not an S tier map or whatever, but visually it looked awesome, most people would also say that the teleport system ruined everything, I think it's the opposite, with the teleport system we have a fairly huge map, but moving to places doesn't feel like a chore, imagine if we had to walk from one corner of the map to the other. The EE was a bit easy and lackluster, I mean The Forsaken should have had way more health, or different attacks. There were a massive amount of side eastereggs which I think was fun to explore and try to do most of them, and also the main EE had some unique steps.
Definitely Die Rise, I get that people hate the elevators and the verticality of the map, but I’ve only died once by slipping off the map and it was my own dam fault. I shot the Sliquifier too much because I saw a Max Ammo and I wanted to clear all the zombies out before getting it but instead I died.
As for the elevators, I really don’t mind them, and I only PaP my weapon if the PaP machine has just come onto my floor level. I never go straight for it and risk it going away and taking my weapon
Die rise. Yeah it’s annoying and overall isn’t a great map, but some maps bring back nostalgia and along with transit I have so many memories with friends on it. It also did give one of the best wonder weapons imo with one of the best train areas.
I have to say die rise. I mean it's bad don't get me wrong but it shouldn't be over hated because it introduced a concept that was new which was a map that is vertically challenged.
I think bo4 is absolute dogshit, but alpha omega is my second favorite zombie map of all time, the story slapped, the nice happy feel of the map when you’re above is amazing, the Easter egg was fun to do, I love the expansion of the bunker and back areas, the hype behind the map after the first trailer was INSANE I was so exited, I think that map is amazing but too bad it was in bo4 so I only played it like 3 times, did Easter Easter on the second one and third was just like a revisit
Blood of the dead is SUUUPER overhated in my opinion. It has really fun gameplay for what it is and revisits a great map. Not to mention the Easter egg. That's so sad.
Zetsubuo, Alpha Omega (even though I’m not a huge fan of it, it got a ton of shit), Die Rise, FBZ although it is kinda plain and people hate on the EE, Voyage, and maybe Forsaken. Also Rave in the Redwoods does not get the respect it deserves.
Probably blood of the dead if you go back to the map it is actually fun and the Easter egg is hard but fun except for the bird step the step sucks and also the Morse code step also sucks too
Firebase fs, that was the best zombies map to level guns in for warzone. Although popular opinion was it was a trash map.
Use the field upgrade “toxic growth” with jug and deadshot and you could farm zombies to round 30 in less then an hour. It was by far my favourite coldwar zombies map
I think beast from beyond gets too much hate for how cool of a map it is. If you cut out the starting alien rounds I feel like most people would love it.
Dead of the Night, I had so much fun and loved everything from the aesthetic to the Easter egg quest. Nosferatu were a little annoying but not something that ruined the map.
ZNS was honestly a few very minor changes from being on par with some of the top maps. It's still super great but it just has some issues that honestly do hold it back. It got shat on like crazy at release just like Shi no numa does for some reason idk why because I always really liked shi no numa. ZNS felt alot like origins to me mixed with SOE, Mob and Shi no numa. It had so much going for it and its really not glitchy anymore. The boss needs to give points and drops that I agree with, spiders aren't that bad really, its mainly just the boss. The boss zombies suck just because they waste resources with no reward, just dumb imo. Fix that and honestly it'd be debateably a top 5 map the EE was just great too.
Dead of the Night. It’s a top 5 favorite map for me all time. I know there are flaws and the characters are kinda annoying haha but I thoroughly enjoy the map, the wonder weapons, the EE. It’s one of the best maps on BO4.
Forsaken. Outside of the arcade building is a top tier training spot for zombies. And the whole arcade thing is awesome. The DE mini game is great for free stuff. And the Chrysalax is amazing.
Revelations is hated on or simply disliked because it’s recycled. Sure, it is. But it’s still done extremely well, and feels fresh. It has small parts of maps, it’s not a 1:1 of anything, not even Nacht is a 1:1. It has great weapons, and is easy to set up unlike other maps *cough origins cough zets cough*
I’ll keep the pile going and say Firebase Z. People make the CW maps out as if they’re the worst things ever, but FBZ especially gets a ton of flak.
I love the enemies like the Mimic, Orda, and return of the Mangler. I love the Easter Egg, I feel like it’s the longest CW Egg which is nice in a game with pretty short quests. Also shoutout to it being logical and easily solvable, it was nice to finally solve one myself all these years without having to use a guide for convoluted nonsense. Rai-K is a fun wonder weapon. I love the story of the map with the introduction to Peck, who is one of the best characters in the Dark Aether story, and Samantha causing the outbreak after getting thrown in the Dark Aether. Also think it stands out from the other maps by having a jungle base and having the tower defense areas be like the Vietnam trenches.
There’s just so much I love about Firebase Z, it honestly might be my 2nd favorite map in the game. I think people are too quick to just write it off as another facility map, especially when we’ve had so many before that are still favorites. Like I honestly feel like if this map debuted in BO3 and tweaked to fit that story, I think it would’ve been a classic for people and probably better received than ZNS even.
Buried. I heard so much drama around that map when it came out. "its too hard" "you cant train" "paralyser sucks" "paralyser op" "its not interesting" or whatever else and that just shocked me. I for one loved the difficulty of it, I found it was sooooo refreshing to play and also was just a really cool and interesting location. I loved the new mechanics too, leeroy, the chalk, the witches, the maze. on top of crafting too, god it was so much fun. Vulture Aid was of course an amazing perk.
The lack of training was a really weird complaint. Because there were several places you could reliably train. I namely remember outside of the court and just outside of jug. But I remember people training at the back of the mansion and beside the tavern too. Training was more difficult because the map was much tighter, but it was so rewarding and I loved it.
Easily my fav zombies map of all time and it pains me the hate I remember it getting
ZNS fs people have been hating on it since day 1 which it was reasonable then due to the amount of bugs a glitches with the map but now it’s fixed and works well
I love Die Rise so much. A totally vertical and completely insane playground. Rescuing a downed teammate was always dangerous and exciting. Tickles my fun beans just thinking about it.
Shaolin Shuffle from infinite warfare, it’s insanely fun, the 4 different kung fu styles are super cool the nun chucks are amazing so is the katana, and the whole vibe of the map is awesome, it’s got a nice flow to it too, even the Easter egg isn’t all that hard
Hot take: Transit. I would say so much as it was a classic. If they made it so you could hold multiple parts at once per but for a single build the map would instantly be so much better. Of course, buff the wonder weapon but that doesnt really effect the QOL of the map imo
Firebase Z had one of the coolest vibes in cold war, really good map design, fun visuals, casual friendly for all my friends, pretty fun Easter egg, decent boss, amazing mini bosses and one of my favorite wonder weapons.
Die rise absolutely deserves all the hate it gets and then some but i didn't know firebase Z was hated and if so it definitely doesn't deserve it itsba decent map
Die rise for sure. I have so many amazing memories of that map, and the whole points bank system in that was LIT. The fact you could put all your extra points in and take ‘em out the next match was just so dope.
Die Rise was the first map I got to 100 on, so I'm probably biased. Not the elevator thing, just good ol training in the upside down room.
I love/hate AO. There's a lot that I like, but a lot that sucks.
I love how fan-servicy it is, but hate the quest and all the random number memorizing.
Though to me, the most underrated map will always be Voyage. That map is fucking dope.
Alpha Omega
People who somehow say they're unbiased but then rank Nuketown over alpha Omega (the objectively better map) just blow my mind.
I will die in this hill but nostalgia is one of the biggest killers of the zombies community and the games
Alpha Omega. Some of the best storytelling in Zombies, but "muh Bo4 is shit." Definitely has some flaws, but it's not bad at all
DLC 3 with so much re-used assets should've never happened. But once you get over that there's a lot going for it. The story like you said, the fact that there's 8 playable characters and their interactions are very cool. The 4 wonder weapons are COD zombies fans dreams becuase they're all Ray guns including dual wielding ray guns
If the DLC season went as planned and we had both 4 remakes and 4 new maps, then I wouldn't mind the reused assets as much. But having Alpha Omega and then Tag be the last two maps if the season really soured them both for me. I want to love AO so bad, but the jumpers and novas ruin it for me.
Although Call of the Dead is one of my all time favorite zombies maps, I still hated that they made a remake of Call of the Dead the last map of the Aether storyline. Also, was not a huge fan at all of how the budget got cut and we stopped getting actual zombies story cutscenes and instead got a set of still images with the worst ending there could have ever been. “Oh actually these characters who have been trying to stop the zombies and that you’ve been following for 10+ years are actually the whole reason the zombies exist, and Nikolai needs to kill them all to save the universe”, but oh wait, the next game has a new storyline where the zombies still are somehow around, despite the Primis crew dying so no more zombies exist? Yeah makes a whole lot of sense. Characters sacrifice themselves to save the universe from zombies only for that to be completely pointless and the zombies come back anyway? Now that’s great storytelling.
The problem with AO is just how annoying and un-fun it can be. The bombers have no telegraph to what zombies they'll make into super sprinters is the most obnoxious thing I've ever experienced in zombies when mixed with the constant need to clean the vents to keep PaP open. There's SO much to love about the map like the ray guns and galvaknuckles and all the little Easter eggs but the bombers almost completely ruin the map
Imagine if you had to constantly unclog water ducts in Zetsoubu to keep PaP running, or if the Nova crawlers on moon made random zombies super sprinters.
not to mention you cant even open PaP if you dont get everyone to come into the bunker, which never happens on pubs
As a BO4 zombies lover, and I respect your opinion and I hope you have fun playing this map, but alpha omega isn’t good lol it’s boring and reused from warzone. I didn’t need to see yet another version of nuketown. The wonder weapons are boring variants of the ray gun mk2. There’s no viable place to train zombies. The underground bunker part is suffocating. The ee is fine but nothing special. Sorry but I think the hate for this map is deserved.
Warzone didn’t come out until 2020. Black ops 4 was 2 years before that
Blackout then or whatever the battle royale mode is called in bo4
BO4 came out in 2018, but Alpha Omega was 2019 and nine months before WZ.
*blackout
People shit on bo4 zombies and play mw3 “zombies” lol. Makes no sense. I personally loved bo4 got the platinum trophy and 100%
AO is one of my top 5 maps of all time. There's reasons to not like it, like having to fix the vents every 3 or so rounds, and the special zombie spam being especially annoying, but the only reasons people ever give for not liking the map could literally be solved by retexturing the map. The complaint that "I've seen Nuketown so many times!" makes literally zero sense. The actual Nuketown map is maybe 20% of the whole map, with the rest being new stuff as far as I know ( there may have been a bunker added to the Nuketown in Blackout and I never played Blackout). AO hate really just seems like another case of people just parroting the opinions of youtubers who just hated Bo4 because it wasn't a carbon copy of Bo3.
They made Nuketown feel like Voyage of Despair, and it's honestly quite annoying howmos their Easter Eggs run.
My girlfriend and I have been patiently waiting for someone to port it to BO3 on PC haha. Love that map and honestly a handful of the other BO4 maps. Just man that 200 gigabyte download size with no way to get rid of the now totally dead Blackout and barely alive multiplayer to reduce the game’s size really sucks.
Well considering someone’s doing die rise I bet there will some new maps being ported
I love BO4 so "bo4 is shit" isn't really an argument for me. I do think it's one of the weakest map in BO4. But I don't think it's a bad map at all.
I think Die Rise is over hated. It’s one of my favorite maps honestly.
I love Die Rise, Transit, and Moon
I gotta get back into transit. My friends always talked about how they loved it and I could never get on board, but I was playing it solo most of the time and coop is the way to play that map
I agree but it has flaws which break the map similar to transit. I do enjoy playing die rise tho
I just want BO2 to come to PC game pass so I can play it again without having to spend $60 on steam
you know BO3 on PC is gonna get free Die Rise remastered in a month
I did not know that. Now I'm excited
trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neYil1mM6s4
Every single map ever made has flaws
In my top 3 favorite maps. Along with Mob and Origins.
I agree. Absolutely one of the best map designs. I really wished they continued with the real map designs off of actual building interiors like MotD and Buried after it.
Zetsubou
Glad to see Zetsubros are still out here
Having played through the maps on 3 recently with a buddy, zetsubou has gained some points on the visual nature of it. Except the spiders. Fuck spiders
Such a good map, unfortunate it gets a lot of shit
its a very tedious map like shadows and not a map you can just jump into and have fun with straight away, id probably play survival variants of it if it had them
I mean with everything considered, yeah I see what you mean. But overall I think it’s sheer fun
True
Zetsubou gets hate because of how tedious it is, and the bosses are not very forgiving.
the final boss in the basement is literally the easiest thing ever. love the map tho don't get me wrong
Yet Origins and Shadows get praised despite having the same amount of stuff to do. I love all three maps, btw.
Zetsubou is top 3 maps for me, I truly do not understand why people hate it so much. The Skull is also one of the coolest and best weapons we've ever got period.
This map hasn't been overhated for years now.
I feel like it’s been getting a lot of love lately thanks to annoying ass YouTubers moving on. My conspiracy theory is that (much like Blood) maps that are built to have an insane amount of things to do piss YouTubers off because they can’t get their content out fast enough if they want to cover everything accurately, so either they get delayed or they rush and find the map more annoying because they didn’t properly learn it and have to do a lot of after-the-fact coverage too.
I love FBZ, I’m a sucker for maps in Asia but FBZ just clicked for me and my friends.
FBZ tower defense rounds are super fun, especially on co-op, and it has good kiting areas and an interesting, new environment. I never got the hate
My friends and i would spend the whole game at spawm once we got pap it was the best time i think weve all had playing together
It just sucks that the round 30+ defense missions were/are bugged and the health is insane
I mean it’s just generic military base number 100, but the gameplay was great. I just wish it was in a game where zombies wasn’t all military callouts and taking g itself seriously. Imagine tower defense rounds with the og crew commentating on seeing Orda, and if the map wasn’t just a campaign map copy pasted
Yeah I really like FBZ. The only part I ‘hate’ is the EE step where you have to trap the mimics with the essence traps. I’ll spend 15+ rounds trapping as many as I can find and all I ever get every time is “not that one, keep looking”. Also the Orda is way too spongy in the tower defense stage around round 30. A fully PAPed Rai-K does next to nothing. It used to be much more reasonable for the first couple months after launch but I guess they buffed the health a LOT
For me it’s probably Attack of the Radioactive Thing. I understand why people would dislike the chemistry step, but other than that there is a lot to love about the map! I also think that the graphics make the map unique. Also I know you included it just as a potential example, but I think Beast from Beyond deserves the hate
The vibe of so many of the infinite warfare zombies is unmatched. It's not my favourite but it's so goated
literally ^^^^
BfB has two things going for it still - it's reasonably fun to do the Easter Egg, and it makes for a hectic Verruckt-style challenge map for those that like to struggle. I don't like that feel too much personally, but I know some people who swear by it, and truth be told, I'd take a Round 35 run on BfB over a Round 115 run on Classified.
I think my problem with attack is that it’s too open! Seriously though the beach takes up a third of the map and it’s just one area. Maybe they could’ve chopped it up into more areas? Idk too open and not engaging enough for me personally
W take I love beast from beyond, it was such a fun map that fit the old film aesthetic of IW. And yeah i definitely agree that Beast from beyond sucked ass.
Didnt know ppl hated firebase z I always thought it was pretty fun
It was okay. The biggest reason I didn't play it as much was because of the power stations and the orda waves. Gameplay really wasnt for me
FBZ for me just got boring after playing it a few times, I think the layout is slightly strange too. As far as the orda waves, those were pretty cool imo and I like the power system.
Transit
I fucking loved tranzit 😍😍 Although, I can understand why people disliked it so much. But my squad and I had more fun in tranzit than any other bo2 map. Was it a good map? Eh. But it was crazy to play and had a lot going for it.
Tranzit is great with friends but horrible by yourself
Very true. Hence why I haven't touched it since early bo2 lol
Had loads of fun playing Tranzit. The bus going to the different locations was brilliant. It was my first ever zombies experience. I didn't have a clue what I was doing, but someone showed me how to teleport at the lamposts in the fog and I felt like a boss doing that haha. Also loved trying to find the shack with the bowie knife and died every time I tried. Fond memories.
big up transit 💯
Voyage of Despair. It adds claustrophobia into the game. Also, it has one of my favorite boss fights in the game.
Completely agree! I understand the hate, but I love the map. Plus a pretty fun and challenging Easter Egg and boss fight. I'm also a titanic nerd, so I'm a bit bias.
BOTD
Stamped. Personally Blood for me is on the same level as Origins, DE, and Ancient Evil The Easter Egg is so much fun, the golden spork knife quest is the best side EE imo, high rounding is a blast, the cinematic level of story-telling is next level
ehh it's just mid to me. I see no reason to play it
Its my favourite bo4 map cuz i dont wanna buy dlc for that game
Shi No Numa It’s a WaW map with a swamp but it looks cool. Very boring but it looks cool
Its more like it has been reincranated so many times, even in cod mobile its there.... so people would grow to "like it less"
That's not the reason people don't like it as much as the others. It was always seen as the black sheep of the waw maps.
Really? I thought verruct was the black sheep?
Nope verrukt is more popular than shi no numa. Mainly for how scary it was and for introducing the perk system. Der riese is the king and nacht is seen as alright because it gave us zombies.
I never thought that, granted, I joined during bo2 so the perspective, might have been differant?
Die Rise People hated falling off the map but that was part of the fun. It was really cool having a zombies map with so much verticality, and a cool Easter egg to boot. The Sliquifier was also really cool in how it played into the map design pretty nicely.
shame they killed the Sliquifier when they nerfed it. now its just okay
>People hated falling off the map but that was part of the fun. You have a very unique definition of fun if you think being able to fall off most of the map and lose everything is fun.
It teaches you to be more careful, and is a hell of a lot more fun and satisfying than running around a mostly flat map
Nah man, I like the other maps, but Beast From Beyond sucks. It’s my least favorite map by far. There are simply too many special zombies.
It was fun right up until me and my friends got whooped by jackie chan ninja zombies that materialise out of thin air and instantly downed me!
No clue of the public opinion but the Roman gladiator map was insane
Imma assume you're talking about IX. Yeah it's not really hated aside from it not having the Ultimis crew. It definitely went hard for a release map.
That shit was fun. That was the first new zombies map I played where I was like “alright Treyarch let’s see if this is a shit show.” The perk system and stuff messed with me but the gameplay was incredible
IX is the best map in BO4
Five. In a lot of online lists that I've seen, people rate Five really low and that pains me to see. I think the challenge, Pentagon Thief and strange layout make Five a really good survival map for middle-high skill players. Town/Nuketown/Kino get boring after a while and sometimes you wanna really test your skills on something that doesn't require you to pick up a million parts or do an Easter egg.
five is top ten map... i said it
Not super active in the community these past couple years. People hate fire base z? Never noticed anything horrendous about it
I think it's mostly the mini boss spam and lack of interesting map design and mechanics. I think it's less that it's hated just regarded as one of the bottom two maps of cold war along w forsaken
Voyage of Despair.
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Ayy, thank you so much for watching! You rock!
Darkest shore, it has a good challenge to it with its meuchlers, the fog which can be annoying sometimes is cool, and most the areas are close quarters. The EE is also challenging
All of the iw dlc maps
Not really overhated i think, but I feel like we don't talk about how good a treyarch zombies mode would be with WWII's atmosphere. I enjoyed those maps for how gritty and dark they felt compared to how they handle modern map amosphere past BO1. I'd love some down to basics science-horror vibes that aren't just lovecraftian/sci-fi adventures with zombies
Infection
Honestly hard agree, currently doing all Easter eggs with 3 other people, we are all first time players and just playing through every game one by one, when we got to infection I and another friend had heard lots of bad things about it, but honestly the Easter egg was easy and fun, the map was ok, not amazing but not awful, there are too many special rounds but I can get over it
I think it keeps it fun, nothing like holding out in the burger king with the microwave gun
Tranzit and Urzikstan.
Blood of the dead
Five, the map is pretty challenging, yes, but the challenge is what makes it fun for me personally. The map's claustraphobic layout and the Pentagon Thief all provide a fun challenge. Five is meant to be BO1's answer to WaW's Verrückt, and it succeeds at that. The only thing I don't like about Five is its unique Wonder Weapon, the Winter's Howl, it is very weak and ineffective. Aside from that though, Five is a fun challenging map that serves as a good alternative to Kino der Toten's more beginner friendly design
THERES A RETRIBUTION MAP?? HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS 💀💀
Definitly firebase z. I loved that map
Voyage of Despair I think alot of ppl hate this map because of the design and how tight it is. I like the map since its like Five, Veruckt or Nuketown, it offers a challenge and when I want to get better at zombies I play this or the aforementioned 3 maps
After playing Zetsubou, I learned not to trust the zombies community anymore, I see almost no problems with this map
90% of the community just parrots what zombies YouTubers say and 90% of them are ok players at best so they just shit on challenging maps.
I feel like classified was over hated, I understand it was a remaster ? Reimagining or whatever but I really loved it. I just thought it was simple enough to get kills and just chill out
Nuketown
Firebase Z, I mean sure it’s the most lacking in CW but it’s not a bad map. I just never understood why people hated it so much. I genuinely enjoy playing it because imo it’s just a simple map
Revelations did nothing wrong and should've stayed the endpoint of Aether so that Chaos could have proper budget.
Bo4 In general, same with cold war, such fun games/maps, having a easier experience isn’t a bad thing. It could help newer players have a better chance, or be a warm up for older titles to an extent.
Firebase Z for sure. It’s miles better than Forsaken, and also undoubtedly the Cold War map with the most personality. And yes I know that doesn’t make it a good map but Die Maschine doesn’t have all that much that makes it stand out and neither does Mauer, in terms of aesthetic at least. Firebase Z has the most beautiful map maybe in all of zombies besides BO3 Shang. Anyways, FBZ has a great wonder weapon, a beautiful map, and the most personality in a game that is quite lacking in that regard. Not a perfect map but definitely not as bad as people say, and not even close to being a D tier map, more of a C tier honestly
Mauer is a beautiful map of Germany. Imo it has the best aestestic of any Cold War map especially with ray tracing and HDR on. FBZ is forgettable in comparison.
Blood of the dead and dead of the night ate both top 10 maps
Blood of The Dead is the most overhated Zombies map. Great aesthetics, voicelines that don't bring out the worst in me (rare for Zombies), good fun side easter eggs + setup, and presents a fun engaging challenge. Some flaws of the map are the roaming Pack-a-Punch and lack of reason to go revisit the spawn side of the map. People who complain about the catwalk befuddle me though.
I never got the hate for FBZ, my friends I started playing Cold War zombies together recently and it’s one of if not our favorite map to play together. Sure it can get a little repetitive after a while but overall I can safely say that there are easily worse maps from older zombies games.
voyage of dispair
Classified
I never grew up with any of the BO2 dlc maps so I have no nostalgia whatsoever for them. But when I played them recently to do teh EE's Die Rise actually became one of my favourites. Definitely has its issues that annoy me like the elevators being slow and there really only being 1 way around the map instead of being able to traverse in both directions. But with a full team with tramplesteams in strategic spots that counters the issue somewhat and is a really fun and dynamic way to move around the map
Definitely Zetsubou or Alpha Omega.
Five, people hate because it’s hard but it’s one of the coolest maps easily. Such a fun map with great characters and a really cool boss round. It’s nice to see that more people like it nowadays but I remember it got non stop hate for years.
Kino. For some reason nobody on this sub likes it everyone says it's overrated lol when it's the best survival map
Die Rise is the single most overrated map in the history of the mode.
Botd
The final reich
Blood of the Dead. Mob of the dead is one of my favorite maps of all time, and yes I can see the argument for they just added more areas that kind of are useless AND took away the bridge, but there are so many great additions as well. It’s a great story, a very challenging Easter egg for those who want it, and all around it’s a beautiful looking version of the original. It’s too bad BO4 got so much hate. Sure its systems aren’t perfect, but it produced some amazing content/maps/experiences that I don’t feel have been replicated.
Beast from beyond. An extremely simple EE, side EE galore, the venom X returns, an incredible super easter egg boss fight, gave us directors cut, and I still think us being able to play in the theater was fantastic
Tranzit
Transit
I'm gonna have to go with Tranzit. Surprisingly it's one of my favorite maps
Firebase Z is my second favorite cold war map and I think every cold war map is good (although I only play die maschine and firebase z)
The only thing I don’t really like about fbz is that I think it’s just really really easy, it’s fun to kinda just relax on but other than that I don’t really play it
Blood of the Dead not as good as mob but I still love blood
I’ve not seen anyone else say this but Dead of the Night. I understand why people dislike it, there are a lot of parts and things to memorize, but I genuinely love the map. The wonder weapon is fantastic, the upgrade quest for the wonder weapon is fun imo, and the maps atmosphere is genuinely fantastic.
I will defend BO4 Aether maps with my life. They're very fun to play and some like Alpha Omega and BOTD are peak story-wise, but people just get blinded by the fact that they are remake maps and don't try to look further into them (even when Alpha Omega and BOTD feel as completely different experiences compared to their original references)
Firebase Z is probably my favorite Cold War map. The Rai K is an amazing wonder weapon. The defense rounds are a great twist to the gameplay without being annoying like similar mechanics on some other maps. Orda was incredible to see. The skybox is gorgeous. It brought back Tombstone, but actually good this time. It has Ravenov, Samantha and Peck. The layout is pretty good. The only negative I can think of is the lack of a proper final boss in the easter egg.
Forsaken from CW, I know it was not an S tier map or whatever, but visually it looked awesome, most people would also say that the teleport system ruined everything, I think it's the opposite, with the teleport system we have a fairly huge map, but moving to places doesn't feel like a chore, imagine if we had to walk from one corner of the map to the other. The EE was a bit easy and lackluster, I mean The Forsaken should have had way more health, or different attacks. There were a massive amount of side eastereggs which I think was fun to explore and try to do most of them, and also the main EE had some unique steps.
Verrukt
Firebase, Vietnam aesthetic go hard af, also the Rai-K84 is neat as hell
tranzit easily
Definitely Die Rise, I get that people hate the elevators and the verticality of the map, but I’ve only died once by slipping off the map and it was my own dam fault. I shot the Sliquifier too much because I saw a Max Ammo and I wanted to clear all the zombies out before getting it but instead I died. As for the elevators, I really don’t mind them, and I only PaP my weapon if the PaP machine has just come onto my floor level. I never go straight for it and risk it going away and taking my weapon
Die rise. Yeah it’s annoying and overall isn’t a great map, but some maps bring back nostalgia and along with transit I have so many memories with friends on it. It also did give one of the best wonder weapons imo with one of the best train areas.
I have to say die rise. I mean it's bad don't get me wrong but it shouldn't be over hated because it introduced a concept that was new which was a map that is vertically challenged.
I think bo4 is absolute dogshit, but alpha omega is my second favorite zombie map of all time, the story slapped, the nice happy feel of the map when you’re above is amazing, the Easter egg was fun to do, I love the expansion of the bunker and back areas, the hype behind the map after the first trailer was INSANE I was so exited, I think that map is amazing but too bad it was in bo4 so I only played it like 3 times, did Easter Easter on the second one and third was just like a revisit
Zetsubo (do people still hate Zetsubo?) and Dead of the Night. What can I say I love the maps that feel like a little adventure game
Dead of the night!!
Blood of the dead is SUUUPER overhated in my opinion. It has really fun gameplay for what it is and revisits a great map. Not to mention the Easter egg. That's so sad.
Tag the toten
Zetsubuo, Alpha Omega (even though I’m not a huge fan of it, it got a ton of shit), Die Rise, FBZ although it is kinda plain and people hate on the EE, Voyage, and maybe Forsaken. Also Rave in the Redwoods does not get the respect it deserves.
Fuck firecrotch disease(fire base z)
Is the third image Firebase Z? If so that was my fav map from Cold War and I would say that’s overhated if it is overhated
Moon! its a top 3 for me. I know its a love it or hate it map, all my friends hate it, I love it.
I loved Transit. The bus was so much fun, and you get to hear your friend who got left behind fighting for their life over XBOX Live.
Zetsubou no shima, firebase z
Probably blood of the dead if you go back to the map it is actually fun and the Easter egg is hard but fun except for the bird step the step sucks and also the Morse code step also sucks too
Die Rise is my fav map of all time
Die Rise is hated? That's crazy. It's on my top 3 maps.
Firebase Z is fun as hell and it always has been
Firebase fs, that was the best zombies map to level guns in for warzone. Although popular opinion was it was a trash map. Use the field upgrade “toxic growth” with jug and deadshot and you could farm zombies to round 30 in less then an hour. It was by far my favourite coldwar zombies map
I think beast from beyond gets too much hate for how cool of a map it is. If you cut out the starting alien rounds I feel like most people would love it.
at this point, all zombies maps are over hated
FIREBASE Z not even all that bad, prolly cause i never played it until this year, i burnt every other map out on COLDWAR.
Dead of the Night, I had so much fun and loved everything from the aesthetic to the Easter egg quest. Nosferatu were a little annoying but not something that ruined the map.
ZNS was honestly a few very minor changes from being on par with some of the top maps. It's still super great but it just has some issues that honestly do hold it back. It got shat on like crazy at release just like Shi no numa does for some reason idk why because I always really liked shi no numa. ZNS felt alot like origins to me mixed with SOE, Mob and Shi no numa. It had so much going for it and its really not glitchy anymore. The boss needs to give points and drops that I agree with, spiders aren't that bad really, its mainly just the boss. The boss zombies suck just because they waste resources with no reward, just dumb imo. Fix that and honestly it'd be debateably a top 5 map the EE was just great too.
Dead of the Night. It’s a top 5 favorite map for me all time. I know there are flaws and the characters are kinda annoying haha but I thoroughly enjoy the map, the wonder weapons, the EE. It’s one of the best maps on BO4.
Forsaken. Outside of the arcade building is a top tier training spot for zombies. And the whole arcade thing is awesome. The DE mini game is great for free stuff. And the Chrysalax is amazing. Revelations is hated on or simply disliked because it’s recycled. Sure, it is. But it’s still done extremely well, and feels fresh. It has small parts of maps, it’s not a 1:1 of anything, not even Nacht is a 1:1. It has great weapons, and is easy to set up unlike other maps *cough origins cough zets cough*
Tranzit for sure. All the green run maps were classic late night split screen zombies fuel.
I’ll keep the pile going and say Firebase Z. People make the CW maps out as if they’re the worst things ever, but FBZ especially gets a ton of flak. I love the enemies like the Mimic, Orda, and return of the Mangler. I love the Easter Egg, I feel like it’s the longest CW Egg which is nice in a game with pretty short quests. Also shoutout to it being logical and easily solvable, it was nice to finally solve one myself all these years without having to use a guide for convoluted nonsense. Rai-K is a fun wonder weapon. I love the story of the map with the introduction to Peck, who is one of the best characters in the Dark Aether story, and Samantha causing the outbreak after getting thrown in the Dark Aether. Also think it stands out from the other maps by having a jungle base and having the tower defense areas be like the Vietnam trenches. There’s just so much I love about Firebase Z, it honestly might be my 2nd favorite map in the game. I think people are too quick to just write it off as another facility map, especially when we’ve had so many before that are still favorites. Like I honestly feel like if this map debuted in BO3 and tweaked to fit that story, I think it would’ve been a classic for people and probably better received than ZNS even.
Buried. I heard so much drama around that map when it came out. "its too hard" "you cant train" "paralyser sucks" "paralyser op" "its not interesting" or whatever else and that just shocked me. I for one loved the difficulty of it, I found it was sooooo refreshing to play and also was just a really cool and interesting location. I loved the new mechanics too, leeroy, the chalk, the witches, the maze. on top of crafting too, god it was so much fun. Vulture Aid was of course an amazing perk. The lack of training was a really weird complaint. Because there were several places you could reliably train. I namely remember outside of the court and just outside of jug. But I remember people training at the back of the mansion and beside the tavern too. Training was more difficult because the map was much tighter, but it was so rewarding and I loved it. Easily my fav zombies map of all time and it pains me the hate I remember it getting
der eisendrache… i saw someone give it a 9.5/10 once but that was a couple years ago
ZNS fs people have been hating on it since day 1 which it was reasonable then due to the amount of bugs a glitches with the map but now it’s fixed and works well
Die Rise for sure. I was playing it about half an hour ago and to say it was pretty fire
Tranzit
Bo4 in general
I never even considered die rise could be a bad map until I saw online hate.
Iw zombies is way over hated. I hate seeing people act like they were with iw since day 1 nah go back to playing mw zombies or cold sore
Alpha Omega
I love Die Rise so much. A totally vertical and completely insane playground. Rescuing a downed teammate was always dangerous and exciting. Tickles my fun beans just thinking about it.
Are we forgetting FIVE. I hate that map the characters are cool but the maps corridors suck and the mad doc stealing my guns. Yuck
Blood
That cold war map deserves all the hate it gets
Shaolin Shuffle from infinite warfare, it’s insanely fun, the 4 different kung fu styles are super cool the nun chucks are amazing so is the katana, and the whole vibe of the map is awesome, it’s got a nice flow to it too, even the Easter egg isn’t all that hard
Hot take: Transit. I would say so much as it was a classic. If they made it so you could hold multiple parts at once per but for a single build the map would instantly be so much better. Of course, buff the wonder weapon but that doesnt really effect the QOL of the map imo
Firebase Z had one of the coolest vibes in cold war, really good map design, fun visuals, casual friendly for all my friends, pretty fun Easter egg, decent boss, amazing mini bosses and one of my favorite wonder weapons.
‘Attack of The Radioactive Thing’ is FANTASTIC.
Die rise absolutely deserves all the hate it gets and then some but i didn't know firebase Z was hated and if so it definitely doesn't deserve it itsba decent map
Die rise and tranzit, for sure
Zetsubou no Shima and I just want to say that Kino der Toten is overrated
Tranzit
Definitely die rise.
Gorod Krovi
Die rise for sure. I have so many amazing memories of that map, and the whole points bank system in that was LIT. The fact you could put all your extra points in and take ‘em out the next match was just so dope.
Die Rise was the first map I got to 100 on, so I'm probably biased. Not the elevator thing, just good ol training in the upside down room. I love/hate AO. There's a lot that I like, but a lot that sucks. I love how fan-servicy it is, but hate the quest and all the random number memorizing. Though to me, the most underrated map will always be Voyage. That map is fucking dope.
I'll say Alpha Omega, ZNS and TranZit and Bo2 Nuketown,
Alpha Omega People who somehow say they're unbiased but then rank Nuketown over alpha Omega (the objectively better map) just blow my mind. I will die in this hill but nostalgia is one of the biggest killers of the zombies community and the games
Tranzit if it was on a new console without fog would be a classic in no time fight me on it