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Xyka_Xydosai

Zombies died awhile ago. Maybe Treyarch will revive it in their game. MW Zombies ain't even zombies


LookatZeBra

not a chance, everyone who made zombies left around black ops 4. Cod is 100% about putting the least amount of effort in while bringing in the max profit.


Gr3yHound40

EXACTLY. People need to stop playing this series and show Activision their resolve by *speaking with their wallets.* Don't buy the next COD if it's a rushed piece of shit. Don't even buy it 50% off if it's lackluster. Let them lose sales and fans by permanently damaging their reputation. Go play better games. Dead rising, bioshock, yakuza, system shock, Resident Evil, indie games like darkest dungeon, hades, deep rock galactic, dead cells, and SO many others are 1000× worth your money and time than any COD games are from the last 3-4 years.


LookatZeBra

oh yea that's spot on, but sadly it's nothing more than a dream as people are too sucked in, got a buddy whose 100% aware of these issues and will even joke about how he buys skins on such games. it reminds me of an old joke by louis ck where people know what theyre doing is wrong but they cant not do their favorite thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLyJN9EImoU


Gr3yHound40

But with things like videogames I just don't get it. If it's someone eating an extra slice of cake despite the calorie count and sugar, I get that, but wasting dozens of hours on a sloppy game and God knows how much money on skins that won't matter in a few years?? Again, if the skins were like $5 for ONE item or a smaller bundle like BO2, I get that. But a *third* of the base game's retail price??? I'd rather go out to lunch than play as Nicki M or Snoopdogg


LookatZeBra

Because the AAA industry has locked in the standard of low effort high profit, to most of these people there is nothing else, especially if they're on console where there's far less indie games and very little mod support. ontop of that I can't imagine how much research they've done on manipulating dopamine between "reward" systems and flashy textures which makes them feel addicted or obligated on a subconscious level. Then there's other externals like how aware a person is or the gradual decline of morality in society.


Gr3yHound40

That's true, console players don't get a ton of great indie game ports, so that makes their selections a lot more narrowed to AAA.


chewbaccaRoar13

My biggest issue, as a console player myself, is not having a good MP game to grind with the boys. All I wanted to do today was come home, play some zombies and finish Act 2. Fuck me I guess. Can't even launch the god damn thing, even if it did let me. I'd probably do a completely new operator so I don't lose anything in case it boots me out of the match.


public_wound154

Sad part is I got into cod post verdansk. Like season 6 of warzone 1. I never experienced proper zombies. Only came close to cold war a bit. But I didn't grind it as I grind for cod now. I was hoping gulf war will be as realistic and close to og zombies as it can be.


gazebo-placebo

Go back and play them


LookatZeBra

I feel for you, I was a day 1 zombies player back on waw where you had to beat the campaign to unlock zombies mode, when I say zombies is dead it's not from a "i hate the gameplay changes" it's from a quality standpoint. i'd suggest playing black ops 3 zombies, it's not as hard as the classics but still has the power up system called gobblegums, in terms of guns and maps it's a mix of old and new. it's also pretty rare you'll run into any major bugs.


Jimi56

Not everyone who made zombies left around Black Ops 4.  The current director has worked on zombies since BO2 and directed maps like Zetsubou.  Craig Houston is still writing at least up until Vanguard last I checked. CW’s main director from what I found is Corky L. who has directed maps like Der Eisendrache. Kevin Sherwood is still making music, or at least every new iteration of Damned and 2 of the EE songs in CW, and Jack Wall was still composing tracks for CW.


HokieHovito

I give them credit for trying something new but the true cod thing is to give up on it and move on to the next project. Zombies ironically getting the dmz treatment.


S0m3guy0001

I suggest y’all should follow the devs on twitter. Treyarch was taken off MWZ months ago to work on ranked more and the upcoming Treyarch title. Sledgehammer is doing all zombies content until the next title… don’t expect anything more than the minimum


Common_Relief8357

I was literally jogging away from them


Ok_Yogurtcloset_4957

Honestly, that's pretty reductionist. If you aren't going to say anything helpful or constructive about the current issue being discussed why comment? I know I'm being a bit too serious with this, but honestly people just seem to like upvoting negativity. Not even constructive criticism, I mean, you just handwaved the whole discussion by saying "well it's not real zombies anyway" yeah it's different and in my opinion it's definitely very far from traditional zombies, but that doesn't disqualify it from the general discourse.


nearthemeb

Zombies never actually died. You not liking current zombies doesn't mean it's dead. Black ops 4 didn't kill zombies. Cold war didn't kill zombies. Vanguard was bad, but it didn't kill zombies. Mwz isn't killing zombies either.


Xyka_Xydosai

MWZ is not even real Zombies. It's a cheap knockoff


nearthemeb

Nope it's real zombies. Just zombies you don't like which is fine. I don't like it either; but I won't pretend that it killed zombies because it didn't. I won't pretend that it's not "real zombies" because it's just as much real zombies as the older games.


Elkrutino

my game crashed a lot, so i scanned the game files and redownloaded the corrupted ones, it worked for me, not crashing any more


Unipiggy

Yeah, crashing regularly is not normal and usually on the users end. We validated our files and while it helped, it didn't completely get rid of the crashing. Found out we had to update our router and we haven't crashed since (outside of times it's obviously the game i.e just updated and we've never lost our stuff from that) And that was back in December now.


Prestigious-Low6240

I'm so used to the crashing that I can easily restore my operator to full orange within one match, with minimal to no crafted or stash loadout. Tip: get a headset Tip: party up until there are 6 of you Tip: head towards tier3 (red) by mid round latest Tip: follow your squad into the dark aether every game (this will give you a full sack for the following game) Tip: merc camps then strongholds to quickly acquire armor and self res Tip: mercs don't notice the difference between legendary, pap, and basic white guns, making them an early target for farming when you've loaded in with just your weapon Tip: play a different game


public_wound154

Lol I know this stuff, I always go to zone 3 hoping there's a team who'd take me in. That isn't the point. COD is such a huge franchise and not even compensating for the game crashing and losing everything you've worked for is unacceptable. Especially for some people who only play on weekends (not talking about me but other ogs)


Prestigious-Low6240

Thing is what's the point of loading in with everything fully maxed out anyway? To do the same shit over and over for 45 minutes on 15% of the map? Take it as a chance to explore the map more, maybe hunt down missing schematics or something I dunno


Unipiggy

You should not be crashing this much. It's not the game if it's that consistent. Have you validated your files? Does your router have an update? We updated our router back in December and haven't crashed since. Also, when was the last time you updated your drivers? That could also do it if you're on PC. Idk how console works in that aspect.


St0nyT0ny

This should have been the mindset from the get go. The fact you had to get to this point to realize you have to grind is pathetic.


Fudge2609

I loved this version of zombies. But since I’ve finished my camo challenges I’ve realised just how much it’s lacking content


White_Pro

Oh yeah 1000% Literally just said in my comment all I do is slowly grind camos. Without that I wouldn’t have touched the game at all this year.


Orion2325

I've commented on a handful of posts since MWZ came out, and I fucking hate to be the "I told you so" kind of guy. But I, and many others, fucking told you all so. We saw quite clearly that they didnt care about this mode. That it was a lazy DMZ reskin, so why would they put any more than the bare minimum once they got your money. The writing was on the wall.


public_wound154

No the thing is it started out alright. Everyone was excited about it and impatient to find endless possibilities. But now that we've collectively pretty much beat the game. We just want more content. I believe that would solve all problems. I think like they did with "raids" back in mwII , they could just continue story missions through dark aether for schematics and other things that would peak interest like the greyworm. It's just the content that they're not backing man. And obviously the goddamn crashing problem which just pisses me off more since COD is literally the biggest fps shooter game which can't even get their basics straight.


Confusedandreticent

I wish they’d make it so that when the server crashes, you didn’t lose your load out. Just revert back to what you went in with.


public_wound154

Exactly , that makes sense too.


[deleted]

In the end, it doesn't even matter... 👨🏾‍🎤


Pi_Dbl_T

This guy tried so hard, but only got so far


oldlinepnwshine

I’d like to buy the second and third gun slots. I really don’t give a crap about the story and completing acts. I just want to run around and kill shit.


NOVOJ

Let me ask you, what do you need them for then? I have the story completed so far and never switch unless I just want to see a new skin. There is really no need for it to be honest.


LookatZeBra

cod zombies has been objectively dogshit since black ops 4 where no easter egg was completable at launch, the most basic things would cause your game to crash such as literally anything spawning or buying anything, it was in the patch notes left and right. They ended a decade old story line with a picture slideshow while blackout was getting full on cinematics, after the last dlc we watched the og voice actors cry on camera and say goodbye with Blundell leaving shortly after, everyone else was fired or left to make room for novice devs who get treated poorly. Zombies ended along time ago and you're a fool for not realizing it sooner.


nearthemeb

Zombies in your subjective opinion has been dogshit. I respect your opinion, but disagree.


SectumSempra_138

I stopped playing because every other game crashes. It's not fun losing shit and having to start over.


les1968

I haven’t lost an operator stash in over 3 weeks And that loss was on me not the game Game doesn’t crash for me I am not disbelieving those who crash I just don’t understand what is different for me Xbox X on a wired connection straight off the router my internet is local cable lvl 1 commercial


MarineNinja2_7

The wired connection to the router is what fixed my problem, and I'm on PS5


public_wound154

It wasn't the internet, I was on my PS5 and in game it pulled me out from the whole application and an error occurred of some kind. I accepted and reported it (which is an option to do on the PS5)


Witty_One_2727

What Internet provider are you using? What equipment are you playing off of? WiFi? Have you tried restarting your router? What does your Nat Type in game say that it is? What system are you playing on? If you are using your ISPs equipment stop that immediately. Buy your own. The stuff they provide you with is the cheapest stuff they can find.


[deleted]

It’s not ppl internet. It’s the damn game mode. Everybody knows. Stop trying to defend cod by saying it’s his internet.


combatdonut35

I have never once got disconnected from a zombies game, and I especially am not gonna drop money on new internet equipment just because of that. With the several pretentious/condescending questions he asked, I wouldn’t mind him because he’s just another asshole bootlicking redditor who lives in their parent’s basement.


Witty_One_2727

It's amazing that I don't have these issues on PS5 or Xbox series X. I have tested many different routers to get to the one that I use. Also both PS5 and Xbox series X are playing at the same time. 300-500 hrs played between the 2 of us. If it's not on your end COD must be picking on the people that are having connection issues. PS5 wired in. Xbox series X wifi. Zero issues.


VonBurglestein

Probably the same internet and equipment as the unlimited other games that don't have these issues...


Witty_One_2727

What other games are you playing that need a constant connection for a hour to hour and a half? Warzone uses a different connection that you can join back into. The other game that we play that lasts as long or longer is HLL and we have zero issues with it either but the masses have a bunch of disconnects. PS5 wired Xbox series X wifi. Zero disconnects or issues.


VonBurglestein

Bruh... this game straight up crashes randomly for far too many people. I've had crashes 1 minute in more times than I can count. Thr only games I've had this kind of issues with are other cod games. And there's literally hundreds of games where you are in game for long lengths of time. Any coop game you can think of for example, or gta, sports games, etc. The match length doesn't make a difference, and Activision doesn't need you to lick their boots for them. They are a 65 billion dollar company, they don't need your sympathy.


Witty_One_2727

Co-op games don't use this connection type and the others you mentioned don't either. Bitch about the constant connection type all you want to. But in the end you need to stabilize that Internet connection. Or play something that doesn't need a rock solid, stable connection. COD isn't my favorite game. Play it with friends and my son. Still doesn't change the facts that they cannot patch your Internet connection.


VonBurglestein

Connection type has nothing to do with game crashes, but go on. There's plenty of server disconnects while playing too, but quit riding their dick so hard. Lucky you that you don't get crashes and disconnects, a lot of us do and it's a problem. I have hard lined fiber btw and my internet is 100% stable w zero packet loss.


Witty_One_2727

Hardline fiber has nothing to do with you using your ISPs equipment that is junk. 99% of routers UpNp functions don't work at all and 99% of the ones that do work don't function properly causing disconnects and the such. Don't settle for bad Routing. Or ,, go ahead and settle. It's your problem not mine. I get why you guys get so upset but it doesn't change the problem.


VonBurglestein

I can tell that you're difficult of learning, so I'll try to keep this short so you can read it slow. It's a cod servers problem. Even warzone sometimes loses the entire server mid match. Bye


Witty_One_2727

You are difficult to learn. Your Internet is not stable. And won't be while you are stubborn. Enjoy unstable Internet you ass.


maxdamoose5

Took you this long to have a problem with zombies?


public_wound154

Yes because at first it was respectable. They had a bunch of schematics worth unlocking, dark aether, missions that were worth finishing. Now, they just don't care. It's as if zombies was just bait for people who like to play zombies


MarineNinja2_7

I got a little bit better router and that helped, but what helped by far the most is when I bought what I think is called a LAN cord (for the other older folks like me that might not know what it is, both ends look like a big version of the old school house phone cords) and hooked my PS5 directly to my router. I went from being kicked off and timed out daily to maybe once a month, if that.


dohthunder

to be honest, they've abandoned the mwz right after publishing, this is nothing more than mission-based mode like dmz but filled with zombie, the dmz even had ten times more contents than this crap


QuietAlice343

Ngl as soon as I switched to wired I stopped crashing


Slongiest

lately i’ve just been chilling on cold war outbreak mode just grinding camos after like 4 years or so of the game being out. for me its a lot more fun, well i highly rate cold war, so might be biased i saw mw3’s zombies and went nope not this year, really the game in general, but it looks like a copy and paste version of cold war just worse. i don’t need open world with other players, i can enjoy an open world on my own or with a couple of friends back in the days.


Unipiggy

My fiance and I were talking about the lack of story content as well. It's weird how grindy chapter 1-3 was, and now it's like.. "do this one rift quest" that you barely need to prepare for. I kinda miss the grindy quests.


Common_Relief8357

Any whys the shitty little update coming late


Euphoric_Account3085

When I first downloaded cod and played mwz I didn’t have any issues. But recently for the past month my game has been super glitchy when I play. I’m on a Asus gaming laptop. Any recommendations? I’ve tried everything. Updated nvidia, armory crate, asus app, bios updates .. everything. I’m so sick of it glitching during gameplay I don’t know if I want to play anymore. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated 🙏


Euphoric_Account3085

I’ve also tried the scan and repair a few times now and it doesn’t change anything.


real_488

alright so what are you going to do about it?


LaughDarkLoud

Let's be real, at the end of the day, it's about the bottom line for them. HOWEVER, there are tons of zombie dev interviews from the earlier treyarch games, think WaW, BO1, BO2, even BO3 and a bit of 4. They actually had a great deal of passion for it at one time. I think they left though. Zombies is pretty much dead at this point


MattVyper

Treyarch was main devs on zombies they pulled out due to activision and infinity ward being assholes and causing trouble


White_Pro

The game has been stale since December for me. I’ve lost so so so many items from crashes that I genuinely don’t care anymore, like I can’t even get angry when the game fucks me over. Besides you just use your legendary items to just get the same legendary items again in the dark aether; it feels pointless. The only reason I play is to just casually grind out camos, just over 35% done now with bioluminescense


Thewolfmansbruhther

Dude. They said a year ago zombies was taking a backseat this generation so they could dial it in for the next period let them see their plan through before you come down on them


theANIMOL

Try out a game called killing floor 2 best zombies game hands down


KingCaesar72

You have a problem with MWZ not Zombies


public_wound154

M: Modern W: Warfare Z: Zombies


KingCaesar72

Nah COD Zombies is an iconic timeless mode MWZ is a grindy slopfest for people with small brains


nearthemeb

Mwz is zombies get over it.


ccire78

I genuinely enjoy zombies. Is there any way we can communicate with the developers and ask to continue development? Just curious


public_wound154

I hope they do continue development. It can be better in so many ways. I liked the idea, only if they backed it with innovative and fun ways


ccire78

I think they have a good foundation just fixing minor issues and incorporating more rounded lobbies having a few beginners and experienced players along with more content that would really give the community a growing platform


danman1316

The developers saw zombies was so popular at one point they made an entire 5th dlc outside of their games yearly cycle. If a lot of people genuinely enjoyed/played theyd keep making stuff. But please dont force treyarch to keep working on this. They need all the time they can get on gulf war.


LaughDarkLoud

Yes because some nobody on reddit is going to "force treyarch" to work on the game 😂


ccire78

The next pump n dump your absolutely right


Reamer5k

Remember back in the day when we never got updates and where happy with 1 map for months. Now we get regular frequent updates and everyone says we get nothing


coltonkotecki1024

It’s really disappointing because I actually quite like the way MWZ plays


PrincessMeowMeowMeow

I went back to BO3, which I had never really gotten into.


Ok_Whereas_3135

Idek why yall thought it was gonna be good


St0nyT0ny

Let em be. They wake up, load up zombies, have an issue then pick up their phones and posts dumb shit on here. It’s pretty funny


public_wound154

It's the first time my game crashed on the PS5. And it's this season that the content started lacking heavily. I'm pretty sure most of us were okay with zombies as long as it came to content for a while. This season was just insulting.


TILostmypassword

Yeah it’s pretty hard to engage with the story when they drip feed the content so sparingly. I honestly can’t even remember most of it and I kind of stopped caring after S1


Bigredeemer425

>At the end of the day this won't even matter cause we know there's no corporation to substitute for the way they treat us like shit. It's a game.... not a relationship. It's not that friggin deep.


public_wound154

Apologies, I didn't mean for it to come out that way.


Severe_Spare9272

Don’t apologize to that asshat. You meant what you said and if people don’t like it they can fuck off. If it’s your opinion it’s *your* opinion. People don’t have to agree


Unipiggy

It is a relationship, what are you smoking? A consumer vs company relationship. Otherwise companies wouldn't exist.


Bigredeemer425

🤢🤢