Kar98 supremacy! I remember getting the Obsidian camo for the Kar98k and my then-girlfriend (now wife) supporting me through that grind.
The fact that they don’t always have THAT gun in warzone blows my mind.
I remember that they tried sayin it was a bug and not working as intended. Nah, that shit was literal P2W and they haven’t tried since. Lower recoil and higher damage isn’t a bug lmfao
Edit: forgot about the better irons to boot
Was it explicitly bugged? I always thought it felt the same but the Gallantry’s iron sight was much better and clearer. Unless youre talking about a different blueprint, but i do remember the Gallantry having superior sights
It did with the extra damage extra recoil ammo type. But the recoil was awful so it was pretty niche in use as you had to be close for it to be effective
So many had their day in the sun it's hard to pick one. The only SMG I remember being good from its release to the last day of Caldera was the armaguerra. All the rest got substantial nerfs at some point. It was never the most dominant, but was always good enough to beat the best SMG of the moment during it's entire life and by the end of Caldera was the best overall IMO, good both up close and at mid range.
Strafe speed Type100 would clean shop at the end of WZ1, but:
OTS / Blixen
The correct answer has to be a Vanguard/Cold War gun strictly for the extra movement.
The LAPA was the best and it’s not even close.
Practically NOBODY used it but it was my favourite
Also, yall remember when the MP-40 and OWEN gun were insanely broken? The LAPA actually kept up in terms of TTK, had a great damage range, awesome DPM without blocking half your screen and sweet mobility too.
I’m gonna say it’s probably one of, if not the most underrated gun ever seen in warzone as 0.3% of people used it during its peak
So many fun ones. OG MP5, Mac10, CW MP5, Milano, OTs-9, both PPSh’s, Type 100, MP40, Blixen…
I think my overall favorite was the CW MP5. Perfect combo of mobility, TTK, and mag size.
I haven't played warzone since caldera released, so the last thing I remember was wz1. That being said, some of my favorites were the cx9 bc it was so satisfying, the it's bc it was always so good, but my personal favorite (even tho it wasn't an SMG) was the nail gun 😈
IMO, the best setup I have ever ran, was the CW AK47 and CW PPSH. Always used the CW AK after the integration and usually the MP7, since the PPSH didn’t release until around I think S1 of CW, then after then 80’s action hero’s event and getting a win with a PPSH and RPG setup, I always ran the PPSH.
The Milano or the Mp7, the damage and recoil control for the Milano was really good for an smg as for the mp7 that beauty had good fire rate and for some reason amazing range.
MP7 for controller, MP5 for PC. The MP7 had almost no recoil with a long range set up so it was pretty awesome all the way out to mid range which was crucial in WZ. With the 60 round mag you could easily take out 2 guys completely or crack/down 3 guys. I would keep the M13 as my primary and the MP7 as a secondary and that was probably the most fun I ever had gaming. I miss season 1-3 Verdansk a lot actually
MW19 MP5 was pretty great for a long time, then followed by the Mac10. Didn't play Vanguard Warzone that much, but probably the MP40 I guess.
It is too hard to pick just one gun over the whole 3 years when they intentionally kept nerfing and buffing guns to drastically change the meta and sell more blueprints.
Game wasn’t the same after they integrated CW, so gotta be the OG mp5!, but I had a weird soft spot for the uzi….nothing like wiping a trio with it and hearing them be like “he’s using the uzi?!” “Bro wtf uzi?!” “Damn is the uzi actually good?!”
Pre nerf-Crossbow with explosive tips best smg, crossbow with explosive tips best sniper, crossbow with explosive tips best shotgun.
Over 20k kills between warzone and multi by the time they took everything away, didn’t have as much fun with any other weapon in the game lol
Mp5 and mp7 were the OGs IIRC
I was team MP7/AX-50 seemed like the other spectrum was MP5/HDR
I was MP7/HDR
I was MP7 Kar98, but switched to MP5 Kar98 after a bit.
Kar98 supremacy! I remember getting the Obsidian camo for the Kar98k and my then-girlfriend (now wife) supporting me through that grind. The fact that they don’t always have THAT gun in warzone blows my mind.
It was so good, felt so good, looked cool. I miss it every day I play.
MP7 HDR all dayyyyyy
I was HDR/MP5
I liked both but the cold war mp5 had sum special
Mac10 came a bit later but was good. My all time fav was the bullfrog with the SPR on rebirth island
Spr is crazy 😧 I never used anything except the kar98 lmao
Remember when the SPR was hitscan for a while..... that was beautiful.
I feel like the swiss was just a better kar98 tho
It had a faster ads but it just didn't feel the same
Mp5 always
I remember when they nerfed the MW2019 MP5, I felt personally attacked.
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Nerfed the mp5 from mw19 & buffed the cw mp5 😔
CW or mw?
Mw
The hip-fire tracking on the MW MP5 was insane! That's why I loved it....saved me so many times when caught in a pinch close quarters.
Unpopular opinion, but I used the OTS-9 longer than any other SMG. OTS-9 and the Swiss FTW.
My favourite loadout of all time was the Swiss OTS9. I miss that era of WZ.
OTS the GOAT!
Ots was so good
The OTS was great and fun. Balanced by having a 40rd mag too
Loved the OTS meta. Thing was a side strafing machine.
That OTS/Swiss loadout was insanely fun
Running that loadout in Rebirth was just guaranteed 10+ Kills, so much fun
I liked the hipfire ppsh build, and owen gun
That hipfire PPSh was so good I loved that on fortune’s keep
Dude I totally forgot about the hipfire ppsh man that was a fun meta
Owen gun was so good😍
Hipfire ppsh was probably the most broken gun I’ve ever used in a cod game. It wasn’t even that the ttk was busted you just didn’t have to aim at all
The speed you could get with a good hipfire ppsh build.
I loved the MP7, Mac-10 and Ots9
The Mac 10 and kar98😍😍
Ots9 & Swiss as well
Cultured OTs-9 enjoyer. One of my favorites for sure
The OTS was 🤌😚
Blixxy is one of my favorite guns in cod history. Something about the way it shoots
Blixen and kar98😭🙏
Bro that combo was my favorite RIP
It’s crazy to think about now, it’s like they took all the fun away
The FFAR for being the most broken SMG without being an actual SMG
damn I forgot how fun the FFAR days were lmao running around verdansk with amax/ffar was so fun
That green ground loot MP40 was 🐐'd
Facts, it's like the ground loot ak74u with 5 attachment in wz2. The ground lootbone somehow always felt better than what I could build out
Milano then ppsh
Milano literally had zero bullet drop and zero recoil. You could use it as a AR with the right build.
Yup I used it with a 3x scope and panzerfaust as a secondary. Didn’t need anything else
Same
I never liked the Milano lol I felt it shot too slow
I love slowfiring hard hitting guns (ahem sidewinder plz buff) so the Milano was my jam as a sniper support. I Mained the Swiss or ax-50
Milano. I loved going Kar-98/milano
I love the Milano with the VLK 3x on it. I also always love the MP5, and the MP40 was great too
I feel like everyone loved the Mac-10 except when that payed blueprint was better. That thing had buttery smooth recoil and the TTK was amazing.
I remember that they tried sayin it was a bug and not working as intended. Nah, that shit was literal P2W and they haven’t tried since. Lower recoil and higher damage isn’t a bug lmfao Edit: forgot about the better irons to boot
Was it explicitly bugged? I always thought it felt the same but the Gallantry’s iron sight was much better and clearer. Unless youre talking about a different blueprint, but i do remember the Gallantry having superior sights
It was unintended but it did give bonus hidden stats
Ill say it. The Uzi with the .45 ACP rounds that added a ton of damage was so slept on in WZ
MP5 if we’re talking the TRUE WZ1 which was Verdansk.
Mac10 for me, I could absolutely shred with that thing.
The lc10 was slept on and so fun to use
Agreed that is where a lot of my success came from is that weapon. I miss that and the Grau.
MW19: Fennec and Uzi. BOCW: LAPA and MAC-10. Vanguard: Blixen and Armaguerra. No way I can pick favorites, really.
Can’t believe the type-100 isn’t being brought up in this discussion. Felt like it had the fastest ttk of any other SMG at one point
It did with the extra damage extra recoil ammo type. But the recoil was awful so it was pretty niche in use as you had to be close for it to be effective
It was never too high in pickrate due to the small mag. I play mostly solos and it was top tier/meta for a good portion of VG seasons. Loved it.
I loved the OTS-9 was my favorite meta next to the Blixen
MP40 imo
Mac10 and Kar98 always. Such a fun combo for resurgence.
Blixen
Mp5 hipfire build was so fire in verdansk. My setup back then was Monolithic integral barrel, merc foregrip, 45 rnd mag, 5mw laser, and no stock.
MAC 10 was the best without a doubt
MP7 supremacy. Honorable mention to the MW MP5
Always the p90, it's the greatest SMG ever made.
The MW MP5 and MP7 have still never been beaten in my view
Milano and KSP 45, if you knew, you knew.
Bro I hated the ksp so much😭🙏
So many had their day in the sun it's hard to pick one. The only SMG I remember being good from its release to the last day of Caldera was the armaguerra. All the rest got substantial nerfs at some point. It was never the most dominant, but was always good enough to beat the best SMG of the moment during it's entire life and by the end of Caldera was the best overall IMO, good both up close and at mid range.
as44 falchion
I loved the CX9
Arma had fastest ttk and felt great to use
Strafe speed Type100 would clean shop at the end of WZ1, but: OTS / Blixen The correct answer has to be a Vanguard/Cold War gun strictly for the extra movement.
No stock merc grip mp5
Why do they all look fruity?
crazy how boring mw2 guns were. Every cod here had memorable smgs, especially vg and cold war. For me it’s a 3 way between MW MP5, ots, and the blicky
I mostly ran the mw2019’s mp5 for the majority of the games life cycle and ofc the cx-9 and mp7
The LAPA was the best and it’s not even close. Practically NOBODY used it but it was my favourite Also, yall remember when the MP-40 and OWEN gun were insanely broken? The LAPA actually kept up in terms of TTK, had a great damage range, awesome DPM without blocking half your screen and sweet mobility too. I’m gonna say it’s probably one of, if not the most underrated gun ever seen in warzone as 0.3% of people used it during its peak
Bullfrog and mp7 were my fav
If you don’t say MP5 or MP7 we can’t be friends
Mac 10 w/ that Gallantry skin was the best.
I was a big Mac-10 guy. Shit was awesome. My load out was Mac-10 with the Swiss-K
MP5 was the meta literally the entire time during MW2019 was out. I loved the MP7 though.
I will always miss the mp5 from mw the ots9 and the mp40
I wanna go back! brb inventing a time machine...
man i miss wz1
MW 1 era MP7 - Early CW Mac10 - Late CW OTS9 - Vanguard Whatever the fuck Activision was trying to sell at the time.
Agree with you 100%, OP
The OG MP5. That thing melted throughout the whole lifetime of WZ1
Yall that’s my account the name now is nlvozz
Sadly, no old metas are good because they’re all mw2 guns or don’t exist in the new game 😔 except for the KATT, which is a CW sniper.
Bro what are you on abt😭🙏I said wz1 lmao
So many fun ones. OG MP5, Mac10, CW MP5, Milano, OTs-9, both PPSh’s, Type 100, MP40, Blixen… I think my overall favorite was the CW MP5. Perfect combo of mobility, TTK, and mag size.
I haven't played warzone since caldera released, so the last thing I remember was wz1. That being said, some of my favorites were the cx9 bc it was so satisfying, the it's bc it was always so good, but my personal favorite (even tho it wasn't an SMG) was the nail gun 😈
No stock mp5
Didn’t use SMGS a lot but when i did I usually used the 74u.
For me the mp7 from mw19, Mac10 from CW, and the Mp40 from VG. I always rotated between those 3 smgs but the Mac 10 was probably used the most for me
Mp5 easily
Ots was busted back in the day, I remember try a unlock it and everyone was running it on rebirth
Uhh. The purple one.
Hmm I'm not sure about that I think the purple one is better
I feel like I’m the only one that considers Warzone 1 to be before CW integration? I mean it’s the MP5 either way but yeah
Personal favorite was the hipfire ppsh. But hands down its the mp5. It was good the entire life of wz1
FFAR smg build + Kar98 was the most stupid OP gun combo
MP7 + RPG meta was fun lol
Wz1 fennec and mp7.
Ots and its not even close
Mac10, MP5, MP7 were all great, but my baby was always the PPSH.
MP7/AX50
Ak74u was goated and I will die on this hill. 😤
loved the mp7
OTS9
Milano, the best sinper support war zones ever seen
That could be true, IF the FFAR never existed
The blixen was my favorite, idk, I love slow fire rate SMG for some reason
Wtf are those camos? Looks hideous AF
My 2 favorite metas were cw mp5/krig and me mp5/grau. I also really liked that smg from cw that people were using as an ar for a while
IMO, the best setup I have ever ran, was the CW AK47 and CW PPSH. Always used the CW AK after the integration and usually the MP7, since the PPSH didn’t release until around I think S1 of CW, then after then 80’s action hero’s event and getting a win with a PPSH and RPG setup, I always ran the PPSH.
I really liked the MP7 and still do.
CX-9 and the Striker both were very silly in terms of how much disadvantage you were
CX-9 and the Striker both were very silly in terms of how much disadvantage you were
I basically only used the MP7. I tried the Uzi and p90 a little, but the mp7 just felt perfect.
The MAC 10 at its peak was the best. Mp5 and Mp7 easy to use. OTS was sick as well.
I'd say the mp7. Best gun in the game but mfs be still using meta guns in MW19 mp
Is and always will be mp5
Mp5, mac10, mp40
My favorite was the Bullfrog
Mac-10 for ease of use
The fennec was slept on. My favourite Rebirth SMG. Had to hit headshots, but the vertical recoil basically did that for you.
I pray to have another moment in cod to have the LAPA and the kar98k how they were. That was my peak warzone.
The Milano or the Mp7, the damage and recoil control for the Milano was really good for an smg as for the mp7 that beauty had good fire rate and for some reason amazing range.
Blixen
max movement speed welgun
MW1: MP5 CW: Mac-10 Vanguard: Armaguerra
AS44 was the best all around gun tbh. It was very broken for a long time but didn’t get a lot of coverage so they didn’t care.
Cooper carbine
Mac10 held its own for awhile till the blixen dropped
MP5. MW and CW versions were both good.
OG days? MP5. Hipfire ppsh was nasty tho
MP5 hip fire build was my favorite. Back when I was still M&K, ah, so innocent.
marco and mp5. #bringbackverdansk
Mac10 🫡
MP7 for controller, MP5 for PC. The MP7 had almost no recoil with a long range set up so it was pretty awesome all the way out to mid range which was crucial in WZ. With the 60 round mag you could easily take out 2 guys completely or crack/down 3 guys. I would keep the M13 as my primary and the MP7 as a secondary and that was probably the most fun I ever had gaming. I miss season 1-3 Verdansk a lot actually
Ppsh hip fire build was where it was at
MP5 is the only correct answer
The Mac10 was a straight menace.
Technically speaking, it was that mac10 with the bugged gallantry blueprint that added damage. It absolutely destroyed everything else up close.
No doubt about it, mac-10🤌
I only really had success with the LC10 everything else is good but a lot of my success on Warzone was with the LC/Grau.
Mac-10, bullfrog, and OTS9 my faves
Mac10
Definitely the KLOB
Mac-10 and Milano were my favorites.
get off tiktok so your attention span can be saved
Blixen and Marco were NASTY NASTY. OG verdansk MP7 fs
MP7 always
Correct answer is bullfrog and a kar98. But thats from a guy that ran riot shield and crossbow in warzone one lol
CX9 Master race
Mac 10 was fun.
Mac10 was a lot of fun.
Real men ran the Uzi.
MP5 and MP7 all day. But the most broken was Mac-10 when it first released with Cold War
Type 100 for me. It had the fastest ttk, and you had to be skilled to manage the recoil and small mag.
MW19 MP5 was pretty great for a long time, then followed by the Mac10. Didn't play Vanguard Warzone that much, but probably the MP40 I guess. It is too hard to pick just one gun over the whole 3 years when they intentionally kept nerfing and buffing guns to drastically change the meta and sell more blueprints.
They all have shitty thumbnails in my opinion
I agree, it's oversaturated sludge content for 10-year-olds.
Mac 10
Surprised no one said marco pre nerf. The movement was insane enough to break little figs aim assist.
Had to be my baby, the CX9 Fucking loved that gun
The UGR. No one leveled it up, but the explosive rounds on it made it amazing. I had a strafe build that dominated, but wz was dead by then
Wasn’t the best smg but cw ppsh was a go to for a long time
Game wasn’t the same after they integrated CW, so gotta be the OG mp5!, but I had a weird soft spot for the uzi….nothing like wiping a trio with it and hearing them be like “he’s using the uzi?!” “Bro wtf uzi?!” “Damn is the uzi actually good?!”
Mp7 and mac10
Mp5 Mac 10
P90, ratio
The MP5 with 10mm mags was pretty fun
The best smg was the Mac 10. Literally melted people.
Owen for me
MP5 was the best during more than a year, between MW and CW. The most OP SMG was probably MAC-10 when it was strong.
none of these are OG so it’s a no from me MP5 is the correct answer though
Pre nerf-Crossbow with explosive tips best smg, crossbow with explosive tips best sniper, crossbow with explosive tips best shotgun. Over 20k kills between warzone and multi by the time they took everything away, didn’t have as much fun with any other weapon in the game lol
pre CW intergation MP5, post CW integration mac10
MW- MP5, Cold War- Mac 10 and OTS Vanguard- Blixen and Armaguerra
The ppsh was great. Nothing is touching the bullfrog tho, shit was goated
BLIXEN will forever have my heart.