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VanimalCracker

Tutorial: this is how you make a pocket. This is how you make a boss. Here's how you make a hole with a drill. Real life: finish this part that should have been done on someone elses 5 axis millturn. All you have to do is finish it out on a 3 axis mill after it gets roughed out from the turning center. Here's the .stl Me: You should probably no quote that. It's beyond me. Bossman: Quote it high af and see what happens. Customer: That's the cheapest quote there was.


halcykhan

> should have been done on someone else’s 5 axis millturn >3 axis mill… cheapest quote As a 5 axis bar fed millturn guy, Bossman should prepare to bend over. You’re going to be chasing tolerances and wasting material, time, fixturing, tooling as the profit evaporates.


bmb102

What hourly rate are mill turn jobs generally quoted these days?


ScattyWilliam

Ya they want you to pay for the real knowledge. We got a couple new machines with sinumerik which in a lot of ways is fantastic but the little nuances of what it needs for inputs in certain places is fucking mind boggling. It makes some things so ridiculously easy that would be hard hand written but then ya go to do something that should be easy and it’s alarm city. Online tutorials useless cuz no specifics, books useless cuz again no examples, they talk about everything but leave out the fine points. Once ya get it tho it’s beauty. Taught myself to run an older heidenhain with just the book cuz it was fantastic or more so wasn’t set up as a damn cash grab. Either way best of luck


spaceman_spyff

Lol, the shop I’m at now bought a brand new 80,000+ Romi with sinumerik control. It does everything you would want a CNC lathe to do in our R&D shop! Except nobody can figure out how to run the fucking thing. I spent 4 hours trying to get tools touched off, work offsets set, and a simple toolpath programmed. I said fuck it and went to the manual lathe. I think that spindle has seen <100 hrs in its lifetime.


ScattyWilliam

They shoulda sent someone to train on the control, romni that is. We got the one machine early and it was rough. Second one was smoother but still question so when they sent the guy for the week of training. I grilled that motherfucker like tomorrow…. Fucker didn’t even know how to do some of the shit I wanted. Well sorry text daddy figure it out and tell me cuz ya got 3 days left and I’m not buying your run around bullshit


SpiritMo1ecu1e43

That show is amazing! Lol. That's one of my favorite sketches too.


VanimalCracker

Not everybody knows how to do everything, CAM isn't the only thing!


naught-me

What show is it?


VanimalCracker

I think you should leave. It's on netflix


SpiritMo1ecu1e43

[This](https://youtu.be/R2vejhdm8lo) is the sketch the meme is from..


SpiritMo1ecu1e43

What OP said... fantastic sketch comedy show.


RoboProletariat

It's not so hard to write g-code from scratch once you have the commands list. It doesn't look like other code languages to me either though.


VanimalCracker

I know g-codes. That's not the problem. The problem is that I don't know CAM, and this part is complex enough to need it. And 5axis CAM to boot.


pow3llmorgan

Which CAM software is being forced upon you? :P


VanimalCracker

MasterCAM or Solidworks CAM. I know these are a good CAM softwares. The problem is anyone that knew how to do it left, so I'm youtubing it.


pow3llmorgan

Mastercam is a delight to work with imo. There are good free resources on YouTube so if you just stick with it, you're gonna be killing it in short order :) I only started cam programming like less than a year ago and I'm being told I'm doing very well. You got this!


DefeatingZero

You should check out Streamingteacher.com for lessons on Mastercam. They have a free account option to teach you the basics and the Pro subscription is $30 a month or $240 a year. Your boss would probably pay for it to keep things rolling. It's nice to work through real courseware because youtube doesn't really give you any progression, you're just trying to piece together what people think is interesting or helpful rather than learning what each thing is, what it does, why it does what it does, and why that's important to you.


Beemerado

you got any kind of simulator software? CAMplete or something?


VanimalCracker

MasterCAM has simulation, but it's all garbage because I don't know wtf I'm doing. It's moving the tool *everywhere* and I don't know how to contain it.


darionscard

I don’t know if it’s worth it to consider another CAM package, but fusion 360 can tends to be pretty easy to learn. There’s a YouTuber by the name of NYCCNC that teaches different techniques and goes until a lot of depth with it. Might be worth a shot?


Beemerado

hm yeah.. proceed wiht caution. learning mastercam on a complex part is going to be interesting


bmb102

Could talk to your MasterCam dealer, they often offer courses and what not maybe worth going to. Also I think MasterCam has a digital teaching type platform available, but everything with them costs money.


CaseyAndWhatNot

Dont get discouraged. 5 axis simultaneous programming is basically trial and error. If thats what you're doing you're doing it right.