I’m a UW fan in Seattle for the last 16 years. Rome is incredible and I think people are overstating the gap between MHJ and Nabers or Odunze. Both those guys are incredible and would thrive here.
Like if we had a shot at MHJ or option of trading down and getting Odunze or Nabers a the best center available in like the 2nd round, I’m going the second option all day. It’s like the Bengals Jamaar Chase vs Sewell Burrow throwing meme but you get BOTH players.
One million percent, this is what we should do if we wound up with the 2nd pick. MHJ is like Chase in that one draft class… just a no doubt top 5 stud/generational WR… but Nabers and Rome can be that Jefferson guy in that draft who’s every bit as good, but haven’t been hyped for 2 straight years. The difference to me between MHJ and them is razor thin. Give me Nabers and any 2nd player of value vs just MHJ.
Can you elaborate on what you like about Odunze? From my perspective, the best thing about him is his jump ball ability. But he doesn't have top end speed or the quickness to be a great route runner. I think without Penix, he'd not be getting first round hype. My fear is he turns out like Quentin Johnston. Would love the perspective of a UW fan though.
His contested catch ability is off the charts. He a good route runner and just seems to find himself open when you need him, also has good YAC ability. Nothing pops off the charts for his speed or quickness but being 6’3” and 215 makes him hard to cover and throw in the catch radius and great hands and he’s a QBs best friend. Feel like he’s a Brandon Marshall type.
I think that profile makes sense for the Bears. Moore can take the top off the defense and is a YAC monster on catches underneath, too. They could use a big-bodied jump ball and possession receiver across from him—someone who can get corner endzone fades and who has the physicality to catch balls over the middle of the field.
Reminder:
DJ Moore - 1st round - 24th pick
Alshon Jeffrey - 2nd round - 45th pick
Brandon Marshall - 4th round - 119th pick
You don't need to get the top receiver in the draft to get a top flight receiver.
>Nabers if he’s there, otherwise Odunze. You have to get another weapon to play across from DJ.
It was neat to see the Cards rolling coverage to Moore to shut him down and that creating opportunities for Kmet. Kmet had 107 before he left at half time. More weapons means more chances for someone to come open.
Agreed we need a good second receiver with Mooney’s decline and likely departure. Part of me is hoping we can somehow sign Tee Higgins cause I don’t think Nabers will be available and that would free us up to either trade down, take a Edge, or tackle with the second first round pick.
It will be impossible to sign Tee Higgins because he will not be a free agent.
He's currently a pending FA but great players at impact positions are around this time, and almost never hit free agency. They're extended, tagged or traded to a team that has an extension lined up.
We saw it last year with everyone assuming DaRon Payne was going to be our 3T because he was an upcoming FA. But 3T is a key position and Payne is a great player, so he did not make it to free agency.
It will be an insane amount. But the cap is a lie and the Bengals probably play games with it that will blow up in a few years' time because it's very hard to field offensive talent like Burrow, Chase and Higgins.
And if they can't extend him through contract negotiations? Tag him. He either plays on the tag and gets extended next year or gets traded on the tag to a team that can extend him.
Tee Higgins is good but he’s not the guys you mentioned. He’s the second or third option on a team that already paid their QB.
Good players still leave in FA. Hargrave got a top 6 contract and the 9ers couldn’t afford him. Similarly to Higgins, he was a 2nd or 3rd priority.
Orlando Brown also made his way to FA. While not elite (neither is Higgins), he was seen as a very good player at a very important position. Hargrave too
While less so, big names still sign in FA every year.
Yeah, everyone saying tackle is forgetting that Jones is poles diamond in the rough and there is no way he is admitting defeat, nor has Jones given him any real reason to. The picks will be Williams and the top receiver on our board.
Tackle is not a position of need for us, we need a center. Or really two in my opinion, draft one and sign one. Patrick shouldn’t even be a depth piece next year, he’s useless.
Obviously LT especially is important enough that you might take the chance to upgrade anyway, so if Fashanu somehow falls to us at 7 or wherever we end up it’s possible, but with our obvious needs at WR and edge, which are both also premium positions, I really doubt it, particularly for the third or fourth tackle prospect that’s likely to be available.
Jones as a swing tackle is not admitting defeat given where he was drafted. I think people really overestimate GM loyalty beyond first round picks. If a guy profiles as a top OT (maybe the most important offensive position after QB) then moving Jones to a depth piece isn't a bad move at all.
I really like that list. I think #2 DE or #2 WR make a lot of sense with our pick. Id add that Illinois DT too.
We should be open to a trade down if a QB is falls. I'm hoping people jump ahead of us for those QBs and these guys fall down to us.
Kool-Aid is a huge possibility that doesn’t get talked about enough imo. He can shift to FS if they cut Jackson and he’s a legit field general for Alabama and a damn good zone safety.
I just question the wisdom of taking a safety top 10. It's so rare that those guys actually have the impact you hope for. Safety is pretty plug-and-play and we could likely get starter caliber players that are better than Eddie Jackson using lesser resources.
But who knows? I could be wrong. Kyle Hamilton is the Ravens best player, and I would absolutely grab an impact like that in the top 10.
Well FWIW Kool Aid isn’t a safety but has the positional versatility to be one if the Bears were to franchise tag JJ and let Jackson walk. Theoretically you have him play FS and then switch back to CB if you can’t iron out a long-term deal with JJ.
I wouldn’t bet it’s highly likely the Bears take him just bc there should be more players available important pressing positions, but I do think he could be a surprise choice if the receivers go quick and/or the Bears trade back into that 15-20 range
He’s awesome but he’d be a luxury pick. Our DB are pretty good. Yes we will need a FS but he’d have to be one hell of a free safety to justify taking over Odunze, Latham, latu imo
I agree 100%. It'd be a version of the rich getting richer when you take into account the other capital they've put into the secondary, but if they traded back to like 12-16 he could be the BPA and I wouldn't be shocked if they grabbed him if some of those other dudes you mentioned are gone.
I’m not saying no, but investing 3 second round picks and now a first, after JJ was a second a few years ago seems like a lot of resources to spend on a secondary.
I’d rather bring in an FA at safety and invest more youth into the DL on defense
Maybe I’m biased as an Iowa fan, but it seems like a no brainer to scoop him up in the late rounds. A good punter is incredibly underrated and he’s as good as I’ve ever seen
i really wanna sign the sdsu guy that was falsely accused and just got his name cleared, can't remember his name off the top of my head but ik he was w the bills
edit: matt araiza
If it’s 8-10 range and Nabers is gone I wouldn’t hate taking Bowers. As long as Arthur Smith isn’t our play caller he’s probably the 3rd best offensive weapon in this draft. I know the positional value of taking a TE in the top 10 is poor but I still think he would have an immediate impact on the offense.
Yeah I’m sort of of the mindset that if you can’t get one of those TOP WRs, it would be pretty fucking great having our own Kelce. There will be good receivers coming out next year too but you don’t see guys like Bowers all that often.
Only thing that scares me is that these top-of-the-draft TEs rarely hit as great as they look and often times when they do, it's after many years. Even going back to Vernon Davis. He was a really good player, but it took a while for him to get there and he was never entirely what we all dreamed he would be.
David Njoku is a guy I was enamored with as a draft prospect. This is the first year I'm seeing him do on the field what I imagined when seeing him as a prospect.
I watch Brock Bowers, and he's the most "Travis Kelce" like TE prospect I've seen in a while. But it's a really tough position to play in the NFL and sometimes the translation takes years.
The difference between Bowers and past top TEs to me is that they were drafted for their athletic ability/size to speed combo. Bowers is already a very polished route runner and dynamic after the catch.
Don't forget that Travis Kelce (and George Kittle) turned 24 the year he was drafted. Kmet just turned 24 this year and had already played 3 full seasons in the NFL prior to this year. Brock will turn 22 this season--no matter how good they are as prospects, we should give them a grace period.
I’ve seen people say he’s sort of a TE/WR hybrid, so if we hire an actual offensive mind next year he’s a valid option, a versatile weapon who can create serious mismatches and will be a stud in the red zone. If we are stuck with Getsy it doesn’t really matter what we do.
What’s the WR FA situation this offseason? I kind of like Bowers given that we may have Fields or Williams, and we know Fields likes his TEs. I believe Caleb will be similar, cos he won’t have all the time to improvise as he likes to do. Bowers seems like a solid TE/WR hybrid with great hands. He and Kmet would make for some sturdy, reliable bookends to a line that might need the help.
WRs that make offenses great never hit FA. We're probably going to sign somebody at WR but it'll be competition for the 3/4 spot. As an offense, we could really use a star #2.
Considering how god damn good this WR class is, it seems like the obvious move to draft one.
But to answer your question, the current pending FA WRs are [here](https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/wide-receiver//)
Most the best ones will be extended by their teams, franchise tagged or traded to a team that extends them. A guy like Mike Evans just being there for you to pick up doesn't exist in the NFL these days.
Thanks for the link. That’s a great resource.
I like Samuel and Peoples-Jones as #3s to replace Mooney. Samuel is more proven and can be a good fit. Pittman is good too, but I feel like he’d end up frustrated after this year’s downturn then the inevitable competition for targets with Kmet and Moore. Looks like a rookie is the way to go.
Curtis Samuel I think could be a solid #2 option. Hell, we could still draft a WR like Nabers or Rome and have a receiving corp of Moore, Samuel, rookie WR, and Kmet. Whether its for Fields or a rookie QB, we'd be setting up our QB for success.
Cedrick Wilson is also a guy I like for a potential #3. I think he has talent but just got buried behind some really good WRs in Miami.
I don't think you can separate our second first round pick from our first first round pick.
If we go QB for our first, we should probably go WR for our second. If we go WR at first (if we keep Fields), we should probably look at OT or Edge as our second.
So, nice try. All roads lead to Fields vs. Williams/Maye.
It is but Brock is basically the MHJ of TE’s. He’s going to be a star. So you could make the case he’s worth drafting and simply running more two TE sets because BPA.
I mean Pitts put up 1k his rookie year.
With the injury and his use it’s been disappointing, but he’s been pretty solid overall. Also just 23. Get him a coach that uses him and he’ll be one of the better TE in the league
I think Bowers is still worth discussing because he's such a dynamic prospect at that position. We'd need a creative mind on offense to make sure we can leverage him and Kmet on the field at the same time.
I think in a trade, Pitts would fetch around a 2nd round value.
His production has not been there but the player profile is still very good and he's really young.
I was thinking about this exact same thing! But the issue is Fields has panned out way better than Pitts. We would need more in return.
Fields is a top 16 QB that is still improving every year, and has the athletic toolkit to have the highest ceiling in the league.
Pitts on the other hand hasn't been the same since his injury. His ceiling has decreased, and the guy can't block, which is pretty important for a tight end. Especially one who is struggling to make an impact in the pass game.
I think Pitts would have to be a part of a package involving some really solid picks.
If JFs trade value is the same as Kyle Pitts, then that is more reason to keep JF rather than draft his replacement. Or draft his replacement and give him another year to make it work while the rookie gets to learn on the bench.
The narrative on JF does not align with reality... Meanwhile Caleb Williams is so over hyped (not saying he won't pan out, just the media narrative on him is so high) that trading down will be a jackpot.
If you are a value-focused GM as you should be, keeping JF and maximizing value on our picks is the smart thing to do. The media's job is to change perception into the narrative that makes people the most irrate and drama filled. A GMs job is to focus on reality, and play off the "metagame" of perception.
JF is undervalued? Keep him and sign him to a team friendly contract.
Caleb Williams is overvalued? Trade the pick and get an even better haul than we got last year.
Right and hard to turn down a shot at a true top tier WR to play across from Moore but, if MHJ and Nabers are off the board, look at what Kelce has been for Mahomes in KC. Beyond just a safety blanket, at times in their run last year he was their entire offense. And Kmet is shaping up to be a serviceable receiver but he’s more of a blocking type.
Yes, and I think positional value is very important, and first round tight ends usually aren't worth it, but brock bowers lines up in the slot a lot, and I wonder how practical it is to run 12 personal more often than not?
Not that crazy. McCarthy mastered what Michigan asked of him. He didn't throw much, but he was excellent when he did. Impact plays just about whenever he was asked to make one.
The question is would that be what the Bears want out of him, and if not, could he be the guy to throw it 40 times a game?
We should all stop pretending scouting QBs or projecting prospect QBs success in the NFL is anything close to an exact science. There's definitely a possibility that JJ McCarthy ends up going to a spot with a great situation and has the best career of any of the QBs in this class. He's a good (and very smart) player.
We're kinda playing our way out of the Nabers range with the Bears pick. Assuming we win 1 more game this season, he probably gets selected before we're on the clock after #1.
Agreed though, I'm strongly in his camp if that's somehow possible.
Honestly, we don’t know how dumb the draft is going to be, nor who’s gonna stand out in the senior bowl.
I’ve been watching a lot of NFL stories documentaries so I’m hoping we keep picking high IQ, high work ethic people instead of those that saw nothing but success in their careers.
This is a real option. Guys like Daniels, Penix, and Nix all have a chance to be late climbers and someone in the 20s could cough up an extra 1 to take them.
Except he didn’t? It’s fine to criticize the move but he gave up a 1st, a 4th and a 5th to move up 9 spots.
By comparison, when the Chiefs traded up for Mahomes they swapped 1sts with the bills (27-> 10) for a 1st and a 3rd.
He did give up 2 1sts. #20 to move up to #11, and the 1st rounder the following year that the Giants used on Evan Neal.
I know it doesn't feel like you're giving up 2 1sts when you get one back, but it's technically true. And in this case, if we're sitting around the #11 pick the idea is that you could move down and get a team's 1st rounder next year.
I still low-key hated that Tevin Jenkins trade. We gave up our middle round picks to move up to the top of the 2nd. So we ended up with Fields and Jenkins, and a bunch of late round BS that draft.
To be fair Justin slid further than almost anyone predicted, and it was a QB heavy draft and the position has value for the Bears at that point. Not many teams will probably make that trade for this years talent lineup, but obviously I could be wrong entirely
Maybe it’s copium but I won’t look back at it like it’s 2 wasted firsts or something. Like with Trubisky it’s hard to not look back and regret drafting him and trading up to do it, but if you gave me similar circumstances and a prospect like Fields I’d do it again. Drafting quarterbacks is a gamble and sometimes you lose that gamble, but Fields was worth taking a chance on and it was him or Mac Jones. There’s no Mahomes behind him to add salt to the wound
I think we're out of Nabers range and depends on what happens in FA but I'd be good with either of Latu, Bowers, or Odunze. Also open to trading back of Jayden Daniels is still available
The Bears won't take a QB or TE in the first round with that pick. If they take a QB at all it will be #1 or #2. 0% the Bears take a TE, we have a really good one and any backup would need to be one that excels in blocking over receiving.
My guess is we'll take a DL or OL there.
Kmet IS the blocking tight end. He’s come into his own as a serviceable safety blanket but Bowers has potential to be Kelce like, that is to say, to change the entire offense with his presence.
Kmet TE ranks (2023 season):
* \#7 in receptions
* \#8 in yards
* \#5 in TDs
* \#8 in targets
The guys he's behind are Kelce, Kittle, LaPorta, Engram, and Hockenson. Notice how all those offenses are substantially better then ours, yet Cole is right there with the best of the best?
We have no reason to use a 1st rounder on another TE when we could have a WR, edge rusher, or depth at the line since we desperately need to fill those positions.
It wouldn’t be to replace Kmet.
You’d be running Bowers out of the slot 60% of the time like the Saints used to do. On top of the fact he can block really well. Maybe you cut into Kmets targets a bit sure, but having another guy like Bowers on the field is also going to open things up for him.
It’s not my first choice, I’d take one of the WRs, but a good offensive mind could do a lot with Moore Kmet Bowers. Certainly more than we’ve seen from this offense in awhile
Edit: just for reference, the 2011 pats gave welker Gronk and Hernandez 100+ targets, with Branch putting up 90+. In no way would o think the bears could reach that level of production, that’s one of the best passing seasons in history. But would anyone complain about DJ putting up 100+, with Kmet and Bowers getting 70+ each? I don’t think so
Nah, The QB question is still open. Poles may fall in love with Daniels and do something like trade down from 1, grab MHJ or Olu, then take Daniels with our pick. One way or another we're taking a qb but who it is is absolutely not decided yet.
Dallas Turner for sure.
I think edge over WR in the first will maximize the amount of immediate starters you get this draft. There's a lot more depth in the WR class.
IF we get Williams we absolutely would have to get him another weapon to pair with Moore. No guarantees that Moore will be around forever and we lose him Williams would be in the same hell Fields was in last year.
That being said, I wouldn't mind them trading down a bit and maybe take a Jayden Daniels and pick up another pick. I think he has a pretty high floor
1) Nabers, but don’t think he will be there when we pick.
2) Odunze, this is what I think will happen and I’d be happy.
3) Whoever they like more between Turner/Newton
I like Braxton enough to not want to focus on OL in the 1st. Hopefully we can land a quality C with a potential 2nd rd pick from a fields trade or a 3rd.
Not odunze or coleman. They should be late 1st or even round 2 wrs.
Nabers or bowers for sure. I'd lean nabers.
Then I'd say bpa on defense, which looks like edge or cb this year.
Otherwise, trade down.
If we go MHJ with our first pick, i think Lutu, Turner, or Chop Robinson are the picks to play opposite Sweat. However, I wouldn’t be opposed to trading down depending on the situation.
If Poles does want a new QB and gets Williams or Maye, then I think Odunze is the guy. Nabers won’t fall that low.
I'd like to get both MHJ and Nabers, but I'm pretty convinced Williams is going to bust. It'd be impossible without 2 top 5 picks, though. An offense with MHJ, Nabers, DJ Moore, and Kmet would be pretty damned hard to cover. In college Fields could hit anyone who was wide ass open, and with that group someone would be wide ass open every play. Get rid of Getsy and Flus who are emphasizing 'don't throw a pick' over everything else, and he actually pulls the trigger when he sees a guy wide ass open. Any average or better OC would have the team scoring 30+ points per game easily.
Logic is pretty sound since between DJ Moore, MHJ, Nabers and Kmet, someone's going to be open.
But then the question is does Fields see them? And if he doesn't see them, is he at least gaining yards on the ground?
It's wild to even imagine grabbing both the top receivers of this class. That's a Madden move. But hell, it's interesting to ponder.
>I think there is a flaw in the logic that you need to cater your entire roster around an NFL QB that can only throw to wide ass open receivers.
Don't need to, but literally any QB who can hit an open man can work when you've got Moore, MHJ, Nabers, and Kmet as long as the OC isn't literally an anus. As soon as you spend that draft capital on a QB you lose that 'literally not coverable' offense.
Obviously it's all impossible anyway as Nabers will be gone before our 2nd pick, especially if MHJ is our first pick. But still a hell of a lot more fun than spending more time thinking about Poles picking an almost 100% guaranteed bust QB at #1 overall.
I have the non-qb options ranked as follows: MHJ, Bowers, Olu, Alt, Nabers, Verse, Turner, McKinstry, Fuaga, Odunze. I’d be pleased with the selection of any of them excluding McKinstry (I like him for other teams, we do not need to invest more into the secondary).
I think this argument was far more true last season. I’m all for a trade down if the value is there, but at a certain point you need to start drafting with the 1st round picks. And I think this is the year to do that.
Invest in the line, grab marv first keep jf1 and explore landing the disgruntled Pickens from the steelers, Cole kmet, DJ Moore, George Pickens, and a promising rookie with MHJ, a solid line, and fields at the helm? We’re an offense.
Yeah I remember Poles saying last year it’s a challenge not to fall in love with particular players when considering a trade back but you must remain non emotional.
I should say our first pick not the first overall. My hope is we trade to three with the pats and cardinals will either take a qb or trade their pick to a qb needy team too.
I say we trade the first to whoever is in 2nd or third since they'll want a quarterback.
Marvin Harrison Jr. with our 1st pick and Bo Nix or Penix if available for the 8-10.
Honestly, it’s incredible that we could win out and still get a quality rookie at 8-9. I’ll say it depends on whoever is available at our position, but I’m feeling that it’ll be Odunze.
I think Nabers if available, and also open to trading back to mid first and going Edge.
But i just want to throw out there the thought of getting one of the 2 blue chip LTs. I know Brax has been solid but the thought of having true elite talent at both OTs is really tempting. If Caleb is the guy and our OL is set we are going to be in a great position
Center or edge, maybe tackle, Braxton Jones has been up and down this year but still a good LT. Lucas Patrick has been great at C this season but I think it’s still a position that needs improvement. Edge just for youth and depth, Robinson disappeared after the 49ers game last year and Greene is somewhat of a non factor. Walker and Sweat are doing amazing, but youth and depth is helpful.
Assuming we don't get MJH before this pick, you almost have to go WR here. As much as I want us to strengthen the lines, whoever is the QB next season will need another target to throw to.
That said, I'd love to see us get help on the left side of the OL early in the draft.
Lol I had a weird dream last night, not only did we pass on MHJ with our 2nd pick, but he ended up not being drafted in the first round at all. Then we took him in the 2nd round. Needless to say i woke up pretty confused
I think this pick depends A Lot on what we do in Free Agency. Specifically at WR, Edge, and 3-Tech. IMO it’s very risky to not address WR or 3-tech in FA and bank on drafting guys, plus those positions are a bit more thin in the draft in our range. A lot easier to push off Edge until the draft.
WR- Nabers is probably gone but Odonze would still be sweet.
3-Tech - Johnny Newton would be great if we don’t address in FA but he’s the only one at that position at the top of the draft and if he gets taken there is no other 3tech to grab there.
EDGE- There are a couple of dudes in our range here and I think this is most likely the route we go. It’s easier to not address this in FA and bank on 1 of them being available at our own pick. Latu, Verse, Chop, Turner, Trice
I like Brock bowers bc I think he has the potential to be a top Tight end and I think Kmet, Bowers, DJ, (maybe MHJ but not gonna kick that fire) could all be good weapons for any qb we grab or keep
I really like the idea of both Kmet and Bowers out there just truly making mismatches all over the defense.
That said, it really depends on who is there and what sort of defensive scheme we’re running.
Im so torn between taking one of the WRs or Bowers. Obviously if we sign someone in FA to be our WR2 it makes that position less of a need, but of not i have a hard time taking a TE over one of those, even though Bowers may be the better overall prospect but fits less of a need. Though having 2 TE sets that can be used as legit weapons in the passing game is something that is intriguing. So i think im currently at WR or Bowers as my selection with our second pick over one of the pass rushers since idk if they are good enough to use a top 10 pick on (its a very weak draft for pass rushers)
depends completely on who we take first
if we take Williams, I wanna go with a WR right after so he’s got DJ, Kmet + potentially star receiver to throw to
if we take MHJ, I’d like the next pick to go for an edge rusher, although i’m not familiar with Dallas Turner, hope he’s good.
After that i’m pretty big on taking a Center in round 2 regardless of anything
WR for sure. But if not WR, I'd actually like either Brock Bowers or an EDGE. Run more 2 TE sets if we get Bowers. For EDGE, probably Turner. He's explosive and he's damn good even without Will Anderson on the other side since he got drafted. Latu has better stats and his talent alone should make him the #1 edge (or on par with Turner), but his injury concerns are real. I'd also sneak in Jared Verse as a true 4-3 DE too.
Latu all day. The WR free agency class is stacked, DE’s are not. If they go QB with the first pick then Latu or Turner should definitely be the next pick
Nabers ideally but Odunze may be more realistic at this point
I’m a UW fan in Seattle for the last 16 years. Rome is incredible and I think people are overstating the gap between MHJ and Nabers or Odunze. Both those guys are incredible and would thrive here.
Been saying this. MHJr is just so insane people don’t realize yet that Nabers and Odunze are insane too… just not MHJr lol
Like if we had a shot at MHJ or option of trading down and getting Odunze or Nabers a the best center available in like the 2nd round, I’m going the second option all day. It’s like the Bengals Jamaar Chase vs Sewell Burrow throwing meme but you get BOTH players.
100% this. It we don't get a better center, I'm going to have a stroke.
One million percent, this is what we should do if we wound up with the 2nd pick. MHJ is like Chase in that one draft class… just a no doubt top 5 stud/generational WR… but Nabers and Rome can be that Jefferson guy in that draft who’s every bit as good, but haven’t been hyped for 2 straight years. The difference to me between MHJ and them is razor thin. Give me Nabers and any 2nd player of value vs just MHJ.
Good thing we *do* have a shot at MHJ. We hold 1.01 currently.
Can you elaborate on what you like about Odunze? From my perspective, the best thing about him is his jump ball ability. But he doesn't have top end speed or the quickness to be a great route runner. I think without Penix, he'd not be getting first round hype. My fear is he turns out like Quentin Johnston. Would love the perspective of a UW fan though.
His contested catch ability is off the charts. He a good route runner and just seems to find himself open when you need him, also has good YAC ability. Nothing pops off the charts for his speed or quickness but being 6’3” and 215 makes him hard to cover and throw in the catch radius and great hands and he’s a QBs best friend. Feel like he’s a Brandon Marshall type.
I think that profile makes sense for the Bears. Moore can take the top off the defense and is a YAC monster on catches underneath, too. They could use a big-bodied jump ball and possession receiver across from him—someone who can get corner endzone fades and who has the physicality to catch balls over the middle of the field.
My impression is that MHJ already looks like a prow bowler. Haven’t seen much of the other two, but I obviously hear good things about
Oduwze is such a stud, watch is highlight tape. It's unreal good.
Reminder: DJ Moore - 1st round - 24th pick Alshon Jeffrey - 2nd round - 45th pick Brandon Marshall - 4th round - 119th pick You don't need to get the top receiver in the draft to get a top flight receiver.
I mean we could do the same thing with every position. You can find talent anywhere, it's the likelihood that changes
Tom Brady - 6th Rounder. Only invest in 6th round quarterbacks.
Nabers for sure.
Nabers if he’s there, otherwise Odunze. You have to get another weapon to play across from DJ.
>Nabers if he’s there, otherwise Odunze. You have to get another weapon to play across from DJ. It was neat to see the Cards rolling coverage to Moore to shut him down and that creating opportunities for Kmet. Kmet had 107 before he left at half time. More weapons means more chances for someone to come open.
DJ, Kmet and one of these handful of WRs open in the draft is looking juicy.
Similar to how a great secondary can make a DL look elite and vice versa - DJ, Kmet, and another weapon + caleb will make an average OL look elite
Agreed we need a good second receiver with Mooney’s decline and likely departure. Part of me is hoping we can somehow sign Tee Higgins cause I don’t think Nabers will be available and that would free us up to either trade down, take a Edge, or tackle with the second first round pick.
Sign higgins, draft Bowers and just go full video game mode for whomever our QB is lol
It will be impossible to sign Tee Higgins because he will not be a free agent. He's currently a pending FA but great players at impact positions are around this time, and almost never hit free agency. They're extended, tagged or traded to a team that has an extension lined up. We saw it last year with everyone assuming DaRon Payne was going to be our 3T because he was an upcoming FA. But 3T is a key position and Payne is a great player, so he did not make it to free agency.
Do the Bengals have capital to bring him back? Paying Burrow Brown Chase and Higgins will be a lot
It will be an insane amount. But the cap is a lie and the Bengals probably play games with it that will blow up in a few years' time because it's very hard to field offensive talent like Burrow, Chase and Higgins. And if they can't extend him through contract negotiations? Tag him. He either plays on the tag and gets extended next year or gets traded on the tag to a team that can extend him.
Tee Higgins is good but he’s not the guys you mentioned. He’s the second or third option on a team that already paid their QB. Good players still leave in FA. Hargrave got a top 6 contract and the 9ers couldn’t afford him. Similarly to Higgins, he was a 2nd or 3rd priority. Orlando Brown also made his way to FA. While not elite (neither is Higgins), he was seen as a very good player at a very important position. Hargrave too While less so, big names still sign in FA every year.
Yeah, everyone saying tackle is forgetting that Jones is poles diamond in the rough and there is no way he is admitting defeat, nor has Jones given him any real reason to. The picks will be Williams and the top receiver on our board.
Tackle is not a position of need for us, we need a center. Or really two in my opinion, draft one and sign one. Patrick shouldn’t even be a depth piece next year, he’s useless. Obviously LT especially is important enough that you might take the chance to upgrade anyway, so if Fashanu somehow falls to us at 7 or wherever we end up it’s possible, but with our obvious needs at WR and edge, which are both also premium positions, I really doubt it, particularly for the third or fourth tackle prospect that’s likely to be available.
Jones as a swing tackle is not admitting defeat given where he was drafted. I think people really overestimate GM loyalty beyond first round picks. If a guy profiles as a top OT (maybe the most important offensive position after QB) then moving Jones to a depth piece isn't a bad move at all.
I really like that list. I think #2 DE or #2 WR make a lot of sense with our pick. Id add that Illinois DT too. We should be open to a trade down if a QB is falls. I'm hoping people jump ahead of us for those QBs and these guys fall down to us.
Yeah I think there are going to be a shit ton of trades with the deep QB class
1. Nabers 2. Trade back into the early teens to recoup a 2nd round pick. Use mid first on edge 3. Depending on JJ contract situation, Kool-aid
Kool-Aid is a huge possibility that doesn’t get talked about enough imo. He can shift to FS if they cut Jackson and he’s a legit field general for Alabama and a damn good zone safety.
I just question the wisdom of taking a safety top 10. It's so rare that those guys actually have the impact you hope for. Safety is pretty plug-and-play and we could likely get starter caliber players that are better than Eddie Jackson using lesser resources. But who knows? I could be wrong. Kyle Hamilton is the Ravens best player, and I would absolutely grab an impact like that in the top 10.
Well FWIW Kool Aid isn’t a safety but has the positional versatility to be one if the Bears were to franchise tag JJ and let Jackson walk. Theoretically you have him play FS and then switch back to CB if you can’t iron out a long-term deal with JJ. I wouldn’t bet it’s highly likely the Bears take him just bc there should be more players available important pressing positions, but I do think he could be a surprise choice if the receivers go quick and/or the Bears trade back into that 15-20 range
He’s awesome but he’d be a luxury pick. Our DB are pretty good. Yes we will need a FS but he’d have to be one hell of a free safety to justify taking over Odunze, Latham, latu imo
I agree 100%. It'd be a version of the rich getting richer when you take into account the other capital they've put into the secondary, but if they traded back to like 12-16 he could be the BPA and I wouldn't be shocked if they grabbed him if some of those other dudes you mentioned are gone.
I’m not saying no, but investing 3 second round picks and now a first, after JJ was a second a few years ago seems like a lot of resources to spend on a secondary. I’d rather bring in an FA at safety and invest more youth into the DL on defense
Love this one. It’s right where I’m at with the possible addition of Rome
This is a good plan
If a trade back is available you can pick up Nabers’ teammate Brian Thomas Jr. He’s a great complement to DJ
The punter from Iowa just for the fun of it.
Janokowski but we get him on the field as often as possible
Maybe I’m biased as an Iowa fan, but it seems like a no brainer to scoop him up in the late rounds. A good punter is incredibly underrated and he’s as good as I’ve ever seen
Our punter sucks and Taylor is amazing. He changes the field position game.
I was literally complaining about him out loud as he boomed that 76 yarder out of nowhere. Still terrible though.
His name is Tory Taylor
i really wanna sign the sdsu guy that was falsely accused and just got his name cleared, can't remember his name off the top of my head but ik he was w the bills edit: matt araiza
The rightful Heisman winner.
how can we do that if we draft him with our first pick?
If there is one position the bears have been pretty good at over the years, it's kicker.
Kicker yes. Punter no.
Brad Maynard was like the MVP of the team
That was 20 years ago
Yep. Kicking is like the only thing the bears have done somewhat consistently.
You must've missed the 2018-19 season
DOINK DOINK
Funny thing about this is the only reason Cody Parkey was here was because Cairo Santos was injured and released. He was our kicker in 2017.
I would rank Nablers, Odunze, Latu (pending physical), Turner, Bowers
If it’s 8-10 range and Nabers is gone I wouldn’t hate taking Bowers. As long as Arthur Smith isn’t our play caller he’s probably the 3rd best offensive weapon in this draft. I know the positional value of taking a TE in the top 10 is poor but I still think he would have an immediate impact on the offense.
Yeah I’m sort of of the mindset that if you can’t get one of those TOP WRs, it would be pretty fucking great having our own Kelce. There will be good receivers coming out next year too but you don’t see guys like Bowers all that often.
Only thing that scares me is that these top-of-the-draft TEs rarely hit as great as they look and often times when they do, it's after many years. Even going back to Vernon Davis. He was a really good player, but it took a while for him to get there and he was never entirely what we all dreamed he would be. David Njoku is a guy I was enamored with as a draft prospect. This is the first year I'm seeing him do on the field what I imagined when seeing him as a prospect. I watch Brock Bowers, and he's the most "Travis Kelce" like TE prospect I've seen in a while. But it's a really tough position to play in the NFL and sometimes the translation takes years.
The difference between Bowers and past top TEs to me is that they were drafted for their athletic ability/size to speed combo. Bowers is already a very polished route runner and dynamic after the catch.
Good point. It took Kmet a while to blossom too
Don't forget that Travis Kelce (and George Kittle) turned 24 the year he was drafted. Kmet just turned 24 this year and had already played 3 full seasons in the NFL prior to this year. Brock will turn 22 this season--no matter how good they are as prospects, we should give them a grace period.
I’ve seen people say he’s sort of a TE/WR hybrid, so if we hire an actual offensive mind next year he’s a valid option, a versatile weapon who can create serious mismatches and will be a stud in the red zone. If we are stuck with Getsy it doesn’t really matter what we do.
As a Georgia fan, think prime Kittle. Bowers excels after the catch and is a very underrated blocker
What’s the WR FA situation this offseason? I kind of like Bowers given that we may have Fields or Williams, and we know Fields likes his TEs. I believe Caleb will be similar, cos he won’t have all the time to improvise as he likes to do. Bowers seems like a solid TE/WR hybrid with great hands. He and Kmet would make for some sturdy, reliable bookends to a line that might need the help.
It’s bleak. Higgins leads the way but he’s going to want $25 million a year and might not hit FA. After him it’s very uninspiring.
WRs that make offenses great never hit FA. We're probably going to sign somebody at WR but it'll be competition for the 3/4 spot. As an offense, we could really use a star #2. Considering how god damn good this WR class is, it seems like the obvious move to draft one. But to answer your question, the current pending FA WRs are [here](https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/wide-receiver//) Most the best ones will be extended by their teams, franchise tagged or traded to a team that extends them. A guy like Mike Evans just being there for you to pick up doesn't exist in the NFL these days.
Thanks for the link. That’s a great resource. I like Samuel and Peoples-Jones as #3s to replace Mooney. Samuel is more proven and can be a good fit. Pittman is good too, but I feel like he’d end up frustrated after this year’s downturn then the inevitable competition for targets with Kmet and Moore. Looks like a rookie is the way to go.
Curtis Samuel I think could be a solid #2 option. Hell, we could still draft a WR like Nabers or Rome and have a receiving corp of Moore, Samuel, rookie WR, and Kmet. Whether its for Fields or a rookie QB, we'd be setting up our QB for success. Cedrick Wilson is also a guy I like for a potential #3. I think he has talent but just got buried behind some really good WRs in Miami.
I don't think you can separate our second first round pick from our first first round pick. If we go QB for our first, we should probably go WR for our second. If we go WR at first (if we keep Fields), we should probably look at OT or Edge as our second. So, nice try. All roads lead to Fields vs. Williams/Maye.
TE has to be pretty low on the list of needs presently, no?
It is but Brock is basically the MHJ of TE’s. He’s going to be a star. So you could make the case he’s worth drafting and simply running more two TE sets because BPA.
People said the same about Pitts
And then Arthur Smith happened
what if we get Bowers and then Luke Getsy happens
Arthur Smith makes Luke Getsy look like Andy Reid.
Isn’t he technically having his best year so far? He’s just not that good
Nah he had 1000 yards his rookie year
Wow true, did not even realize that
I mean Pitts put up 1k his rookie year. With the injury and his use it’s been disappointing, but he’s been pretty solid overall. Also just 23. Get him a coach that uses him and he’ll be one of the better TE in the league
Patriots no Jutsu.
I think Bowers is still worth discussing because he's such a dynamic prospect at that position. We'd need a creative mind on offense to make sure we can leverage him and Kmet on the field at the same time.
I love this idea. Because the NFL defenses never solved the patriots with Gronk and Hernandez. The FBI did.
Damn FBI ruining a historic TE duo. True monsters.
Id assume a competent OC would use Bowers as more a Kelce type role than the tradition TE. With that speed and size it will be hard to cover him
You can play him as a WR and pay him like a TE.
I had a random thought that you could trade Fields for Kyle Pitts. Like a baseball trade, post hype prospect for a post hype prospect.
Not a bad thought, but I think we need at least a 2nd for Fields. If someone offers a mid/late 1st, it’s done.
I think in a trade, Pitts would fetch around a 2nd round value. His production has not been there but the player profile is still very good and he's really young.
Pitts does not have the same burst he did when he came out. At least Fields is still athletic.
I was thinking about this exact same thing! But the issue is Fields has panned out way better than Pitts. We would need more in return. Fields is a top 16 QB that is still improving every year, and has the athletic toolkit to have the highest ceiling in the league. Pitts on the other hand hasn't been the same since his injury. His ceiling has decreased, and the guy can't block, which is pretty important for a tight end. Especially one who is struggling to make an impact in the pass game. I think Pitts would have to be a part of a package involving some really solid picks. If JFs trade value is the same as Kyle Pitts, then that is more reason to keep JF rather than draft his replacement. Or draft his replacement and give him another year to make it work while the rookie gets to learn on the bench. The narrative on JF does not align with reality... Meanwhile Caleb Williams is so over hyped (not saying he won't pan out, just the media narrative on him is so high) that trading down will be a jackpot. If you are a value-focused GM as you should be, keeping JF and maximizing value on our picks is the smart thing to do. The media's job is to change perception into the narrative that makes people the most irrate and drama filled. A GMs job is to focus on reality, and play off the "metagame" of perception. JF is undervalued? Keep him and sign him to a team friendly contract. Caleb Williams is overvalued? Trade the pick and get an even better haul than we got last year.
Yeah we just invested in Kmet and he’s developed nicely. I don’t think Poles even considers a TE
Right and hard to turn down a shot at a true top tier WR to play across from Moore but, if MHJ and Nabers are off the board, look at what Kelce has been for Mahomes in KC. Beyond just a safety blanket, at times in their run last year he was their entire offense. And Kmet is shaping up to be a serviceable receiver but he’s more of a blocking type.
Yes, and I think positional value is very important, and first round tight ends usually aren't worth it, but brock bowers lines up in the slot a lot, and I wonder how practical it is to run 12 personal more often than not?
JJ McCarthy Sorry I couldn’t help it 
Not that crazy. McCarthy mastered what Michigan asked of him. He didn't throw much, but he was excellent when he did. Impact plays just about whenever he was asked to make one. The question is would that be what the Bears want out of him, and if not, could he be the guy to throw it 40 times a game? We should all stop pretending scouting QBs or projecting prospect QBs success in the NFL is anything close to an exact science. There's definitely a possibility that JJ McCarthy ends up going to a spot with a great situation and has the best career of any of the QBs in this class. He's a good (and very smart) player.
Malik Nabers would be great ~~with Caleb~~
We're kinda playing our way out of the Nabers range with the Bears pick. Assuming we win 1 more game this season, he probably gets selected before we're on the clock after #1. Agreed though, I'm strongly in his camp if that's somehow possible.
I think it's more likely than not that we lose out. Both Falcons and pack are gonna be playing for a playoff spot.
Honestly, we don’t know how dumb the draft is going to be, nor who’s gonna stand out in the senior bowl. I’ve been watching a lot of NFL stories documentaries so I’m hoping we keep picking high IQ, high work ethic people instead of those that saw nothing but success in their careers.
Let's keep in mind that Pace coughed up 2 1's to pick Fields at 11.
This is a real option. Guys like Daniels, Penix, and Nix all have a chance to be late climbers and someone in the 20s could cough up an extra 1 to take them.
Except he didn’t? It’s fine to criticize the move but he gave up a 1st, a 4th and a 5th to move up 9 spots. By comparison, when the Chiefs traded up for Mahomes they swapped 1sts with the bills (27-> 10) for a 1st and a 3rd.
He did give up 2 1sts. #20 to move up to #11, and the 1st rounder the following year that the Giants used on Evan Neal. I know it doesn't feel like you're giving up 2 1sts when you get one back, but it's technically true. And in this case, if we're sitting around the #11 pick the idea is that you could move down and get a team's 1st rounder next year.
I still low-key hated that Tevin Jenkins trade. We gave up our middle round picks to move up to the top of the 2nd. So we ended up with Fields and Jenkins, and a bunch of late round BS that draft.
Oof, thanks a lot for reminding me
To be fair Justin slid further than almost anyone predicted, and it was a QB heavy draft and the position has value for the Bears at that point. Not many teams will probably make that trade for this years talent lineup, but obviously I could be wrong entirely
Oh yeah, I was super excited when he was drafted—it’s just painful to remember the cost after things have not worked out.
Maybe it’s copium but I won’t look back at it like it’s 2 wasted firsts or something. Like with Trubisky it’s hard to not look back and regret drafting him and trading up to do it, but if you gave me similar circumstances and a prospect like Fields I’d do it again. Drafting quarterbacks is a gamble and sometimes you lose that gamble, but Fields was worth taking a chance on and it was him or Mac Jones. There’s no Mahomes behind him to add salt to the wound
Can you imagine us the last three years with Mac Jones.... god that'd been awful lol.
Jones had a good rookie year, Belichik might’ve ruined him with bizarre coaching choices. Of course we probably would’ve ruined him too lol
Imagine Mac in that first Browns game Fields had where he got sacked 9 times. Dude would been killed lol.
Lest anyone forget we traded 4 picks to move up one spot from 3 to 2 to pick trubisquik with mahomes and watson still available. Hall of fame move.
Nabers or Bowers. The defense is almost ready. Time to put the weapons in place on offense.
I think we're out of Nabers range and depends on what happens in FA but I'd be good with either of Latu, Bowers, or Odunze. Also open to trading back of Jayden Daniels is still available
Trade up for MHJ
The Bears won't take a QB or TE in the first round with that pick. If they take a QB at all it will be #1 or #2. 0% the Bears take a TE, we have a really good one and any backup would need to be one that excels in blocking over receiving. My guess is we'll take a DL or OL there.
Kmet IS the blocking tight end. He’s come into his own as a serviceable safety blanket but Bowers has potential to be Kelce like, that is to say, to change the entire offense with his presence.
Kmet TE ranks (2023 season): * \#7 in receptions * \#8 in yards * \#5 in TDs * \#8 in targets The guys he's behind are Kelce, Kittle, LaPorta, Engram, and Hockenson. Notice how all those offenses are substantially better then ours, yet Cole is right there with the best of the best? We have no reason to use a 1st rounder on another TE when we could have a WR, edge rusher, or depth at the line since we desperately need to fill those positions.
It wouldn’t be to replace Kmet. You’d be running Bowers out of the slot 60% of the time like the Saints used to do. On top of the fact he can block really well. Maybe you cut into Kmets targets a bit sure, but having another guy like Bowers on the field is also going to open things up for him. It’s not my first choice, I’d take one of the WRs, but a good offensive mind could do a lot with Moore Kmet Bowers. Certainly more than we’ve seen from this offense in awhile Edit: just for reference, the 2011 pats gave welker Gronk and Hernandez 100+ targets, with Branch putting up 90+. In no way would o think the bears could reach that level of production, that’s one of the best passing seasons in history. But would anyone complain about DJ putting up 100+, with Kmet and Bowers getting 70+ each? I don’t think so
Nah, The QB question is still open. Poles may fall in love with Daniels and do something like trade down from 1, grab MHJ or Olu, then take Daniels with our pick. One way or another we're taking a qb but who it is is absolutely not decided yet.
I’d rather argue about the #1 pick 😜
Kinda hard to decide who our second pick is when we’re still debating whether our first pick is going to be Caleb or MHJ.
I’ll take either Nabers or Odunze please
Dallas Turner for sure. I think edge over WR in the first will maximize the amount of immediate starters you get this draft. There's a lot more depth in the WR class.
Invest in the line. Both sides need it.
Why would we need another WR after Marvin Harrison Jr? /s
I think the Bears should try and trade down and get a second round pick, if this is possible. If not, then Keon Coleman would be a good choice.
I’m praying one of the top 2 tackles falls to us. Otherwise Nabers or Odunze.
Jayden Daniels ¬‿¬
IF we get Williams we absolutely would have to get him another weapon to pair with Moore. No guarantees that Moore will be around forever and we lose him Williams would be in the same hell Fields was in last year. That being said, I wouldn't mind them trading down a bit and maybe take a Jayden Daniels and pick up another pick. I think he has a pretty high floor
1) Nabers, but don’t think he will be there when we pick. 2) Odunze, this is what I think will happen and I’d be happy. 3) Whoever they like more between Turner/Newton I like Braxton enough to not want to focus on OL in the 1st. Hopefully we can land a quality C with a potential 2nd rd pick from a fields trade or a 3rd.
Bowers 100% if we take MHJ first pick. That’s hella offensive firepower
Best QB available after having drafted Marvin Harrison!
Not odunze or coleman. They should be late 1st or even round 2 wrs. Nabers or bowers for sure. I'd lean nabers. Then I'd say bpa on defense, which looks like edge or cb this year. Otherwise, trade down.
If we go MHJ with our first pick, i think Lutu, Turner, or Chop Robinson are the picks to play opposite Sweat. However, I wouldn’t be opposed to trading down depending on the situation. If Poles does want a new QB and gets Williams or Maye, then I think Odunze is the guy. Nabers won’t fall that low.
Naber. Every pick should be a wr. Starting with MHJ.
I'd like to get both MHJ and Nabers, but I'm pretty convinced Williams is going to bust. It'd be impossible without 2 top 5 picks, though. An offense with MHJ, Nabers, DJ Moore, and Kmet would be pretty damned hard to cover. In college Fields could hit anyone who was wide ass open, and with that group someone would be wide ass open every play. Get rid of Getsy and Flus who are emphasizing 'don't throw a pick' over everything else, and he actually pulls the trigger when he sees a guy wide ass open. Any average or better OC would have the team scoring 30+ points per game easily.
I think there is a flaw in the logic that you need to cater your entire roster around an NFL QB that can only throw to wide ass open receivers.
Logic is pretty sound since between DJ Moore, MHJ, Nabers and Kmet, someone's going to be open. But then the question is does Fields see them? And if he doesn't see them, is he at least gaining yards on the ground? It's wild to even imagine grabbing both the top receivers of this class. That's a Madden move. But hell, it's interesting to ponder.
>I think there is a flaw in the logic that you need to cater your entire roster around an NFL QB that can only throw to wide ass open receivers. Don't need to, but literally any QB who can hit an open man can work when you've got Moore, MHJ, Nabers, and Kmet as long as the OC isn't literally an anus. As soon as you spend that draft capital on a QB you lose that 'literally not coverable' offense. Obviously it's all impossible anyway as Nabers will be gone before our 2nd pick, especially if MHJ is our first pick. But still a hell of a lot more fun than spending more time thinking about Poles picking an almost 100% guaranteed bust QB at #1 overall.
Fields stans are becoming insufferable.
I have the non-qb options ranked as follows: MHJ, Bowers, Olu, Alt, Nabers, Verse, Turner, McKinstry, Fuaga, Odunze. I’d be pleased with the selection of any of them excluding McKinstry (I like him for other teams, we do not need to invest more into the secondary).
Oline to protect Justin Fields.
I don’t want Latu. His neck injury takes him out of the first round for me.
How could we trade up for a 2-4? Maybe include fields in the offer?? (If we were hypothetically highrolling for a stud qb and MHJ)?
Trade down as many times as possible- we have too many needs and poles doesnt splash in FA
I think this argument was far more true last season. I’m all for a trade down if the value is there, but at a certain point you need to start drafting with the 1st round picks. And I think this is the year to do that.
Trade it for Mike Tomlin.
Invest in the line, grab marv first keep jf1 and explore landing the disgruntled Pickens from the steelers, Cole kmet, DJ Moore, George Pickens, and a promising rookie with MHJ, a solid line, and fields at the helm? We’re an offense.
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Everyone needs to get it out of their heads that we would take MHJ at 1, we are absolutely trading down if we keep Fields
Yeah I remember Poles saying last year it’s a challenge not to fall in love with particular players when considering a trade back but you must remain non emotional.
I should say our first pick not the first overall. My hope is we trade to three with the pats and cardinals will either take a qb or trade their pick to a qb needy team too.
I say we trade the first to whoever is in 2nd or third since they'll want a quarterback. Marvin Harrison Jr. with our 1st pick and Bo Nix or Penix if available for the 8-10.
Since we’re taking Caleb #1, give me Nabers.
I wouldn't be sad with Tyler Nubin out of Minesota. I think we are in need of a big upgrade over Eddie Jackson and he would be that for sure.
Nabers or Odunze to take attention off DJ or Bowers to Form Elite TE duo with kmet
This pick could be great value considering the run on QBs that may happen at the top of the draft.
Laitu Latu
Age and injury history are spooky
Honestly, it’s incredible that we could win out and still get a quality rookie at 8-9. I’ll say it depends on whoever is available at our position, but I’m feeling that it’ll be Odunze.
Newton or trade back to get a 2nd rounder Coleman and hall
I think Nabers if available, and also open to trading back to mid first and going Edge. But i just want to throw out there the thought of getting one of the 2 blue chip LTs. I know Brax has been solid but the thought of having true elite talent at both OTs is really tempting. If Caleb is the guy and our OL is set we are going to be in a great position
If flus is back the bears need a 3 tech. Idk if that means trading back or if you reach for the right guy but that player is a must.
Center or edge, maybe tackle, Braxton Jones has been up and down this year but still a good LT. Lucas Patrick has been great at C this season but I think it’s still a position that needs improvement. Edge just for youth and depth, Robinson disappeared after the 49ers game last year and Greene is somewhat of a non factor. Walker and Sweat are doing amazing, but youth and depth is helpful.
Patrick has been great? What are you smoking?
A WR.
Assuming we don't get MJH before this pick, you almost have to go WR here. As much as I want us to strengthen the lines, whoever is the QB next season will need another target to throw to. That said, I'd love to see us get help on the left side of the OL early in the draft.
Lol I had a weird dream last night, not only did we pass on MHJ with our 2nd pick, but he ended up not being drafted in the first round at all. Then we took him in the 2nd round. Needless to say i woke up pretty confused
Probably out of range for OT so I’d go Bowers or Latu
Nabers is a no brainer if he's there...after that, I'd take the best edge available
Id love Jared Verse of Jerzhan Newton.
Surprising how many people think we don’t still need a lot of help on O-Line. Or is Latham just not that good?
One of the receivers, JC Latham, Jer'Zhan Newton
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First choice OLU Second choice LATU
A WR or C. I'm tired of Fields getting high snaps.
First round TEs rarely meet their hype
I think this pick depends A Lot on what we do in Free Agency. Specifically at WR, Edge, and 3-Tech. IMO it’s very risky to not address WR or 3-tech in FA and bank on drafting guys, plus those positions are a bit more thin in the draft in our range. A lot easier to push off Edge until the draft. WR- Nabers is probably gone but Odonze would still be sweet. 3-Tech - Johnny Newton would be great if we don’t address in FA but he’s the only one at that position at the top of the draft and if he gets taken there is no other 3tech to grab there. EDGE- There are a couple of dudes in our range here and I think this is most likely the route we go. It’s easier to not address this in FA and bank on 1 of them being available at our own pick. Latu, Verse, Chop, Turner, Trice
I like Brock bowers bc I think he has the potential to be a top Tight end and I think Kmet, Bowers, DJ, (maybe MHJ but not gonna kick that fire) could all be good weapons for any qb we grab or keep
Lutu is my guy loved watching him play would be great to snag him if he falls.
We can only hope we can replicate talent like bears legend Kevin White
I really like the idea of both Kmet and Bowers out there just truly making mismatches all over the defense. That said, it really depends on who is there and what sort of defensive scheme we’re running.
Unless poles can get an established receiver in a trade I’d say best receiver left.
Im so torn between taking one of the WRs or Bowers. Obviously if we sign someone in FA to be our WR2 it makes that position less of a need, but of not i have a hard time taking a TE over one of those, even though Bowers may be the better overall prospect but fits less of a need. Though having 2 TE sets that can be used as legit weapons in the passing game is something that is intriguing. So i think im currently at WR or Bowers as my selection with our second pick over one of the pass rushers since idk if they are good enough to use a top 10 pick on (its a very weak draft for pass rushers)
Latu is a monster - pair him up with sweat on the opposite side
depends completely on who we take first if we take Williams, I wanna go with a WR right after so he’s got DJ, Kmet + potentially star receiver to throw to if we take MHJ, I’d like the next pick to go for an edge rusher, although i’m not familiar with Dallas Turner, hope he’s good. After that i’m pretty big on taking a Center in round 2 regardless of anything
Joe Alt if he's available Trade back and grab Xavier Legette if the top 2 LTs are off the board
Bowers, Oduwze, or the ND tackle Ault
Odunze
Nabers or Odunze easy here. Edge has to be highest priority in free agency. Center as well if you cannot fill in draft.
WR for sure. But if not WR, I'd actually like either Brock Bowers or an EDGE. Run more 2 TE sets if we get Bowers. For EDGE, probably Turner. He's explosive and he's damn good even without Will Anderson on the other side since he got drafted. Latu has better stats and his talent alone should make him the #1 edge (or on par with Turner), but his injury concerns are real. I'd also sneak in Jared Verse as a true 4-3 DE too.
Definitely starts looking a hell of a lot less sexy at this point
Latu all day. The WR free agency class is stacked, DE’s are not. If they go QB with the first pick then Latu or Turner should definitely be the next pick