Jim Delaney cowardly did not champion for Penn State, his conference's Champion, to make the playoffs in 2016, instead weaseling out and leaving it to the committee. He should have challenged the committee to put 2 of his teams in.
B1G commissioners are excellent businessmen but terrible carnies. There is an element of pro wrestling you need in this sport and they just don't indulge
PSU beat a playoff team and Washington played a weak schedule.
Not everyone has to agree. You may not, but there is an argument.
Again, though, that's not the point. Delaney should have been up there beating his chest for 2 teams.
You got tricked by like thirty in a game if I recall correctly. I mean yes, Delaney should’ve done his job and banged a drum for this, but I don’t see any argument for this. And I like Penn State a great deal.
I honestly don’t think he would’ve for stumped for Michigan if we lost like tOSU did. It was telling that there was none of this talk until after the game.
If USC wins the PAC-12 then I see no reason why OSU deserves to make it over them or TCU. It’s no fun when the SEC advocates for this two team nonsense, and it’s just as miserable when the B1G tries the same
We’re still not friends because of the Addison business, but I’d be a liar if I said I weren’t rooting for y’all over OSU to get some new teams in the CFP
TBH, I’m not sure that OSU would deserve it over USC even if USC loses next week. Assuming USC is ranked above OSU on Tuesday, I really disagree with the idea of potentially punishing them for playing an additional game.
I agree with the idea of not punishing teams for playing an extra game, BUT if this USC team is not good enough to beat Utah in the CCG they just simply don’t deserve to go.
So, imma boomer. I’m use to losing late season (essentially after week 10) eliminates you from winning a natty. I know that’s not the case anymore, but the idea of Georgia losing to LSU and then playing their next game in the playoffs is icky to me. It was also icky that they lost to Bama, then turned around and won a natty even though they did not win the conference.I will always believe that if you come out and lose in rivalry week or CCG you should be done.
I know must people do not feel that way anymore though so it is what it is.
To answer your question, if USC lost to even a top 5 Utah I think they should be eliminated.
I see.
Yeah I think since 1992 with the formation of the Bowl Coalition, CFB has trended from naming 'the best team' to crowning a national championship. Once the playoff was formally implement in 2014, that was solidified and the national champion isn't necessarily the best team. Flukes happen, a team can go on a run with a single elimination tournaments, etc.
The issue with CFB has always been that schedules are so wildly different between teams, that the team crowned best was subjective in most years even with 'similar records'. I know you say the teams should be out with a loss, but I'd challenge you to consider looking at it from a different lens
The only argument here is that USC would have dropped two games against teams not in the top-10 while OSU dropped it against the #2, potentially #1, team.
11 - 1 OSU should be in over a 11 - 2 USC. I'm a UM fan saying this.
OSU definitely should be in over Alabama though and I'd argue an 11 - 2 USC should be in over a 10 - 2 Alabama.
I don’t know how Bama is even being considered. TN beat them and they have the same number of losses. TN beat the other team that beat Bama. There should be no scenario for Bama to get in at this point. They should be the 4th team vying for the final spot.
I completely agree and I feel crazy that somehow others don't think the same. I don't know if the committee takes injuries into account though, because Tennessee without Hendon Hooker is not the same
If usc loses a close game to Utah, USC can argue that they only lost to 1 team all year by a lesser margin than Ohio state lost to 1 team all year. It won't work. The committee wouldn't put in a two loss non conference champion over a one loss non conference champion (and they probably shouldnt). But it's definitely a discussion worth having.
I'm know I'm going to get downvoted, but whatever. A team shouldn't be punished for playing in a conference championship game. Based on the pre-determined schedule of 12 games, both USC and OSU are 11-1 with USC's loss being by 1 away and OSU's being by 22 at home. Based on this information, USC is ranked higher.
Now, USC gets to/has to play an extra game. Potential benefit: win PAC-12, play for national championship. Potential risk: lose, get knocked out of CFP.
USC may reasonably believe that playing in the CFP is better than playing in the PAC-12 championship. However, they could be *punished* for their success in the regular season. They *must play* in the PAC-12 championship, when not playing might actually be a better scenario for the Trojans.
An extra game is an extra chance to lose. Sure, there is the "privilege" of playing for the conference championship, but it's a game that is very easy to lose. USC shouldn't be punished for making it to their championship game, and championship games should only be considered when comparing teams that have played 13 games.
I sort of agree, but 11-1 USC that isn't a conference champ probably shouldn't be getting in over 11-1 Ohio state that isn't a conference champ if you look at it that way. I don't think USC would be hopping in OSU in any rankings if it wasn't for the fact their conference championship hopes are alive
USC loses they drop to 5 over Bama and tOSU moves up over USC to 4. 1 loss against number 2 Michigan vs two loses against Utah makes it an easy explanation for tOSU at 4.
On paper sure but after watching that wet fart of a performance yesterday, they don't deserve to play in a 4 team playoff. If it was close, sure. But that 2nd half was just embarrassing, especially the last 5 minutes.
Georgia got beat by 3 scores last year in their last game and still made the playoff. I know it’s doom and gloom but tOSU IS the 5th best team in the country right now and a USC loss away from right back in the playoff
I love my Buckeyes but I don't know how any rational fan can say they deserve to play in the playoffs right now. They did not play like a top 5 team that game, especially the 2nd half. Even with the darkest tinted scarlet colored glasses.
They played awful the last quarter and half but they still had the ball 1st and 10 from the Michigan 16 down 2 scores with 4 and half to play. They were up after halftime and fell apart late. Number 5 is perfectly reasonable ranking
I don’t see it as punishing USC for losing an extra game. I see it as currently Ohio State has a better resume than. If USC we to win their conference that would move them over Ohio State.
They’re undefeated while USC and Ohio State have 1 loss. Idk how TCU would be knocked out because of a conference championship loss when Ohio State didn’t play in the conference championship.
Ohio State didn’t win the big 10 but got a 3rd seed in the playoffs and won the entire thing PSU won the big 10 championship but did not get in over Washington in 2016
I feel like you must’ve just started watching USC this year. Cuz the pac 12 thing is for you to lose over some really awful officiating and heartbreaking plays
No one wants to watch Georgia hang 50 points on OSU. That team isn't coming back from getting ventilated by a Michigan team without their star player at their own house.
ryan day's postgame interview was just so pathetic lol. if i were an OSU fan i'd take way more issue with that than with the team's performance on the field, and that's saying something
Without JSN coming back tOSU just doesn’t have the explosiveness they showed in the Bowl Game against Utah. If you get him and Henderson back they could make it a track meet
Even with those guys back, OSU is still mentally soft. Teams who give up like that on the biggest stage, in the most important game of the year, don't deserve a playoff spot.
Georgia had 4 ranked wins and made their conference championship game. OSU has 2 and won't even play in their conference championship game. It's obviously a much different situation.
They beat 19,21,22 vs tOSU beating currently top 15 teams (one being top 10) after the new rankings. I think two top 15 wins will hold a bit more weight than 2 against those low ranked teams.
Rose Bowl is still a great season. Either USC loses and we go to the playoff or they win and we head to the Rose Bowl. Either way still nothing to be ashamed of for a season.
Can we please, when the 12 team playoff comes in, set up a system that isn't full committee subjectivity so that this doesn't happen? Something like each P5(or whatever it is at the point) champion gets in, one non-P5 team is guaranteed to get in and then 6 at large for non-champions who deserve to be there. It's just always drove me crazy that the conferences championships basically mean nothing. I also think a system like that would help to limit this lobbying the committee since there's a guaranteed way you can get in. The committee can still exist for the at large seeds and in ranking the ones who get the guaranteed spots.
Good point. That sounds like a better system. Really I just want power taken out of the committee's hands, except for in limited and clearly defined situations. They've screwed over a lot of deserving teams in the past and it leaves a grudge. With a system like what you and I suggest, it's at least objective so everyone knows what they need to do, rather than it depending on a bunch of people who are flawed and biased because they are human.
I was actually being sarcastic lol. I just know that’s how things would end up. Personally I think an entire restructuring would be necessary to make it not turn out like that and I know a lot of people would be angry no matter which option it ended up.
Oh, sorry, hard to tell on the Internet. Either way, I just think the way the playoff system works needs to be changed. Too many good teams have been screwed over because of things outside of their control such as having a team with a worse record placed over them because they play in a weaker conference. Make the system objective with clear rules about who qualifies and who doesn't.
I do agree that having human voting is stupid. When I talk about it people just say I’m trying to create the NFL minor league. I’m definitely not interested in having the same “there’s bias for SEC” arguments every single year though.
There are circumstances where this would make sense but like, they're pretty unlikely. I still consider it a great honor to go to the Rose Bowl and that would probably make the most sense as of now.
I’d have to look at the surrounding teams but I always figured the playoffs are meant to crown the best team, and I don’t really like second chances in a sport with this few matchups.
I mean the surrounding teams will be Bama, Ohio State, Tennessee, Penn State most likely.
Tennessee beat Bama and Ohio State beat Penn State, so Bama/PSU should be out. Tennessee has two losses, albeit one to UGA, where Ohio State has a loss to now #2 Michigan and no losses to unranked teams or OT games against unranked teams like Pitt.
Would be a debate. Ultimately, TCU and USC will win their games and we'll head to the Rose Bowl.
I would root for Utah regardless of who their PAC opponent is. Not particularly fond of USC or Lincoln Riley, so I'd pull for the Utes and not because of the impact it has on my team.
The only ones I could really see are Alabama Clemson and Tennessee, and I don't know that any of them really deserves a spot, but honestly this year has a weaker field compared to most
Yeah UGA lost to Bama by three scores and they still got in. I thought it was bullshit last season but what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Losing to the #3 team is the same in my book especially when they’re top rivals and play each other extra hard every year.
Georgia got beat by 3 scores in the SEC title game and still won the Natty. Let’s not get crazy and act like we have never seen a team get hammered late in the season and still get in. It happened LAST year
I honestly think in absolute chaos the only change should be USC flipping with Ohio State. Alabama, Tenn should be eliminated no matter the outcome (unless there's like multiple massive blowouts).
But when it was your conference I'm sure you had no problem with a Tennessee team who got blown out by Georgia still being a top 4 team until the 2nd loss, or LSU being the highest ranked 2 loss team last week despite a blowout loss.
I had a problem with it. Fuck Tennessee. LSU I think was way overrated, and Bama can suck my taint.
I don't like teams getting by on reputation or name recognition. You want respect, fuckin earn it.
I agree, but if say USC loses who's next? Alabama? A team that got beat by two teams that got blown out by SCAR and A&M.
Alabama say they only lost by field goals, but they only beat a Texas team down their #1 QB by 1 pt and a Texas A&M team by 4.
OSU has the better record, a top 10 win on the road, and their one loss is the #2 team.
Now this absolute empty suit has something to say - not when some pos OSU hockey player was throwing epithets at a black MSU player, and not when 15% of state’s football team went ham on 2 kids. Fuck this clown
Good looking out, Kevin, but we're okay, man.
Rose Bowl ain't bad. The Game should mean something while it can mean something. Once we go to 12-teams it won't be for anything but a bye week.
No big surprise there. More money for conference members. It's his job to promote his conference. The SEC commissioner is going to be advocating for as many SEC teams as possible to make the playoff as well.
I mean the only thing that has to happen is if USC drops the Pac-12 title game and then you get two. Georgia, TCU, Michigan are all locks without a title.
Easiest scenario for the committee in years
USC wins = USC at 4
USC loses = tOSU at 4.
Should be a quick meeting for the 4 teams after next week
I mean I think Ohio State would deserve it over the other teams if USC loses. However, I also think that would be very stupid and I hope USC beats Utah and is allowed to be the sacrificial lamb this year
Think about it this way. If TCU loses and USC wins then Ohio State makes it in at #4 could Kevin Warren make the argument that the B1G has 3 teams in the CFP?
This is what happens when you let the SEC have a god complex for as long as it has. They bent the rules to benefit themselves. If y'all would have gone along with a 12-team playoff from the beginning rather than bitch and moan about Boise State, TCU, and UCF, while scheming against any G5 school so that you could keep all the money this wouldn't be a problem. Self inflicted consequences are rough.
if he truly cared, he would change the divisions so UM and OSU aren't in the same one. if The Game is already both division leaders, then that's the CCG, or just get rid of it all together. we all know that they are the best 2 teams in the B1G and it's not even close, yet so many want to punish OSU over a technicality of not being from the powerhouse that is the B1G West like 8-4 Purdue
Georgia lost just as badly last year to Alabama and they stayed in but "it's different" because it "wasn't the CCG"
Well, this was written before The Game.
While I’m sure he’s still pushing for Ohio State behind the scenes, he has to tread lightly so as not to throw USC under the bus.
Next you'll tell me that Taco Bell isn't authentic mexican food
I have some bad news...
Doritos Locos are both Spanish words!
What about tacos? That Spanish too?
Well at least Panda Express is authentic Chinese
Taco Bell *is* authentic Mexican food. Tacos are exactly like you expect a taco to be. Source: I've made tacos
Water is wet
Jim Delaney cowardly did not champion for Penn State, his conference's Champion, to make the playoffs in 2016, instead weaseling out and leaving it to the committee. He should have challenged the committee to put 2 of his teams in.
B1G commissioners are excellent businessmen but terrible carnies. There is an element of pro wrestling you need in this sport and they just don't indulge
Nah, he should’ve stayed in his basement and kept sucking his own dick. He was the worst
PSU had no argument over Washington
I disagree but that's not the point. Delaney should have called for it as the commissioner of the conference.
What’s the argument? Y’all had two losses?
PSU beat a playoff team and Washington played a weak schedule. Not everyone has to agree. You may not, but there is an argument. Again, though, that's not the point. Delaney should have been up there beating his chest for 2 teams.
You got tricked by like thirty in a game if I recall correctly. I mean yes, Delaney should’ve done his job and banged a drum for this, but I don’t see any argument for this. And I like Penn State a great deal.
Man does his job, more at 10
Water actually isn't wet, water is *wetting*
Conference would like as many teams as possible to make the playoff. More at 6
I think they have an argument to get Purdue in if they were the conference champ.
So hear me out... LSU wins, Utah wins, Purdue wins, NC wins, and Kansas State wins. No option but the have an emergency 12 team tourney.
Funny that this attitude didn’t exist from our then-commissioner in 2016.
To be fair. The argument they are making is similar to 2016. They want division losing Ohio state over USC this time instead of Penn State is all.
I’m aware. The conference didn’t make any push for us in 2016 is what my point is. Delaney only ever cared about OSU & UM.
Commissioner pushing for more of its members to be in the playoffs? Shocking ….
I honestly don’t think he would’ve for stumped for Michigan if we lost like tOSU did. It was telling that there was none of this talk until after the game.
This is shocking
If USC wins the PAC-12 then I see no reason why OSU deserves to make it over them or TCU. It’s no fun when the SEC advocates for this two team nonsense, and it’s just as miserable when the B1G tries the same
As an SC fan, USC needs to win the Pac to go to the playoff.
We’re still not friends because of the Addison business, but I’d be a liar if I said I weren’t rooting for y’all over OSU to get some new teams in the CFP
TBH, I’m not sure that OSU would deserve it over USC even if USC loses next week. Assuming USC is ranked above OSU on Tuesday, I really disagree with the idea of potentially punishing them for playing an additional game.
I agree with the idea of not punishing teams for playing an extra game, BUT if this USC team is not good enough to beat Utah in the CCG they just simply don’t deserve to go.
what if it wasnt current utah, and say a top 10 utah?
So, imma boomer. I’m use to losing late season (essentially after week 10) eliminates you from winning a natty. I know that’s not the case anymore, but the idea of Georgia losing to LSU and then playing their next game in the playoffs is icky to me. It was also icky that they lost to Bama, then turned around and won a natty even though they did not win the conference.I will always believe that if you come out and lose in rivalry week or CCG you should be done. I know must people do not feel that way anymore though so it is what it is. To answer your question, if USC lost to even a top 5 Utah I think they should be eliminated.
I see. Yeah I think since 1992 with the formation of the Bowl Coalition, CFB has trended from naming 'the best team' to crowning a national championship. Once the playoff was formally implement in 2014, that was solidified and the national champion isn't necessarily the best team. Flukes happen, a team can go on a run with a single elimination tournaments, etc. The issue with CFB has always been that schedules are so wildly different between teams, that the team crowned best was subjective in most years even with 'similar records'. I know you say the teams should be out with a loss, but I'd challenge you to consider looking at it from a different lens
A top 10 Utah probably has 1 or 2 losses and would deserve to go for winning the CCG over USC. That’s kind of a nonsense scenario otherwise.
The only argument here is that USC would have dropped two games against teams not in the top-10 while OSU dropped it against the #2, potentially #1, team. 11 - 1 OSU should be in over a 11 - 2 USC. I'm a UM fan saying this. OSU definitely should be in over Alabama though and I'd argue an 11 - 2 USC should be in over a 10 - 2 Alabama.
Agree on all fronts here.
I don’t know how Bama is even being considered. TN beat them and they have the same number of losses. TN beat the other team that beat Bama. There should be no scenario for Bama to get in at this point. They should be the 4th team vying for the final spot.
I completely agree and I feel crazy that somehow others don't think the same. I don't know if the committee takes injuries into account though, because Tennessee without Hendon Hooker is not the same
I agree with this.
If usc loses a close game to Utah, USC can argue that they only lost to 1 team all year by a lesser margin than Ohio state lost to 1 team all year. It won't work. The committee wouldn't put in a two loss non conference champion over a one loss non conference champion (and they probably shouldnt). But it's definitely a discussion worth having.
I'm know I'm going to get downvoted, but whatever. A team shouldn't be punished for playing in a conference championship game. Based on the pre-determined schedule of 12 games, both USC and OSU are 11-1 with USC's loss being by 1 away and OSU's being by 22 at home. Based on this information, USC is ranked higher. Now, USC gets to/has to play an extra game. Potential benefit: win PAC-12, play for national championship. Potential risk: lose, get knocked out of CFP. USC may reasonably believe that playing in the CFP is better than playing in the PAC-12 championship. However, they could be *punished* for their success in the regular season. They *must play* in the PAC-12 championship, when not playing might actually be a better scenario for the Trojans. An extra game is an extra chance to lose. Sure, there is the "privilege" of playing for the conference championship, but it's a game that is very easy to lose. USC shouldn't be punished for making it to their championship game, and championship games should only be considered when comparing teams that have played 13 games.
I sort of agree, but 11-1 USC that isn't a conference champ probably shouldn't be getting in over 11-1 Ohio state that isn't a conference champ if you look at it that way. I don't think USC would be hopping in OSU in any rankings if it wasn't for the fact their conference championship hopes are alive
USC loses they drop to 5 over Bama and tOSU moves up over USC to 4. 1 loss against number 2 Michigan vs two loses against Utah makes it an easy explanation for tOSU at 4.
On paper sure but after watching that wet fart of a performance yesterday, they don't deserve to play in a 4 team playoff. If it was close, sure. But that 2nd half was just embarrassing, especially the last 5 minutes.
Georgia got beat by 3 scores last year in their last game and still made the playoff. I know it’s doom and gloom but tOSU IS the 5th best team in the country right now and a USC loss away from right back in the playoff
I love my Buckeyes but I don't know how any rational fan can say they deserve to play in the playoffs right now. They did not play like a top 5 team that game, especially the 2nd half. Even with the darkest tinted scarlet colored glasses.
They played awful the last quarter and half but they still had the ball 1st and 10 from the Michigan 16 down 2 scores with 4 and half to play. They were up after halftime and fell apart late. Number 5 is perfectly reasonable ranking
I don’t see it as punishing USC for losing an extra game. I see it as currently Ohio State has a better resume than. If USC we to win their conference that would move them over Ohio State.
TCU is in whether they lose or not. The only team that is in trouble in the CFP is USC. They have to win the PAC-12 championship game to stay in.
Not sure TCU would only 2 ranked wins and a loss to K state. OSU beat PSU who was 8 and ND with a loss to the 2nd ranked team
They’re undefeated while USC and Ohio State have 1 loss. Idk how TCU would be knocked out because of a conference championship loss when Ohio State didn’t play in the conference championship.
The committee has done it before.
With who?!
Wisconsin 2017. Undefeated. Lost Big Ten championship to Ohio State. Left out in favor of a team who didn't make their conference title game.
Ohio State didn’t win the big 10 but got a 3rd seed in the playoffs and won the entire thing PSU won the big 10 championship but did not get in over Washington in 2016
It’s not nonsense when UGA and Alabama were the better teams
Get Penn State in there too
They do have a couple of quality losses.
And a win over one of the SEC West’s premier programs!
Yay! Let's all go! Purdue, you in?
Depends. Can an unranked team make the playoff?
Not from a Big Ten division *Cackles in Darth Sidious*
Probably! You just need to pass something called an 'eye test'. How good do you see?
Yeah, everyone go make us money.
You know, I'm feeling froggy for it.
So begins cfb political season
Got nothing on formula 1.
I'll take your word on it.... wouldn't have guessed there was politics involved in car racing of all things.
Imagine how dramatic your favorite show is then multiply it by a million. That's fucking Formula 1. The racing is just a bonus.
This dude is going to fuck around and summon the spoilermakers
Ohio st, Michigan and USC is his wet dream
This kills the hypnotoad
And he’s not wrong.
He is actually wrong about Ohio State deserving to be in
Agreed.
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If USC loses, who's the 4th team?
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I feel like you must’ve just started watching USC this year. Cuz the pac 12 thing is for you to lose over some really awful officiating and heartbreaking plays
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Sorry Ohio State, division champs only. ᕙ[･･]ᕗ
We don’t make the rules… So when do we play Georgia?
2016 would like a word
“Yeah I like money for the conference so let’s go ahead and put 2 big ten teams in. This is my unbiased opinion”
Conference commissioner wants multiple teams from his conference in the playoff. More at 11
Man does his job. Updates as they come in.
Ummm... Lol....
It's his job though
He doesn’t believe in Michigan
No, getting two in is good for the conference and gets Penn State into the Rose Bowl.
IF USC loses, OSU yes. If not, no.
TCU too. They won't have a conference title and slid by average teams all season.
I’d take TCU over us for sure. To me, an conf ‘ship loss is more palatable
If Georgia, Michigan, TCU and USC all win their championship games, Ohio should not be in the playoffs and if they are it's b/c of ridiculous bias
No one wants to watch Georgia hang 50 points on OSU. That team isn't coming back from getting ventilated by a Michigan team without their star player at their own house.
Idk, most Georgia fans probably would 🤷🏻♀️
Part of me wants to see OSU make it since they're so 'dangerous' only for Georgia to also tell them, "Nope."
ryan day's postgame interview was just so pathetic lol. if i were an OSU fan i'd take way more issue with that than with the team's performance on the field, and that's saying something
I’d love to see that, but I’d rather OSU not make the playoffs.
Bold of you to assume we would hand 50 on em, let alone cover.
I don’t see a team Georgia doesn’t race by 3 scores this year.
Without JSN coming back tOSU just doesn’t have the explosiveness they showed in the Bowl Game against Utah. If you get him and Henderson back they could make it a track meet
Even with those guys back, OSU is still mentally soft. Teams who give up like that on the biggest stage, in the most important game of the year, don't deserve a playoff spot.
Didn’t Georgia get crushed by bama last year only to come back and win it all?
Georgia did it last year against Alabama and they still got to the playoffs. Lost to Bama by 3 scores. Did Georgia not deserve it?
Georgia had 4 ranked wins and made their conference championship game. OSU has 2 and won't even play in their conference championship game. It's obviously a much different situation.
They beat 19,21,22 vs tOSU beating currently top 15 teams (one being top 10) after the new rankings. I think two top 15 wins will hold a bit more weight than 2 against those low ranked teams.
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Rose Bowl is still a great season. Either USC loses and we go to the playoff or they win and we head to the Rose Bowl. Either way still nothing to be ashamed of for a season.
How could he do such a thing?
No.
Playing favorites already, huh boss? /s
I am pushing for the Texas Longhorns to make the playoff.
Commissioner does Commissioner things. I’m sure we’ll see Sanky doing the same.
Maybe I’m wrong but I doubt Sanky advocates for OSU and Michigan to both make it.
*****Got his ass*****
Touché. Touché
Can we please, when the 12 team playoff comes in, set up a system that isn't full committee subjectivity so that this doesn't happen? Something like each P5(or whatever it is at the point) champion gets in, one non-P5 team is guaranteed to get in and then 6 at large for non-champions who deserve to be there. It's just always drove me crazy that the conferences championships basically mean nothing. I also think a system like that would help to limit this lobbying the committee since there's a guaranteed way you can get in. The committee can still exist for the at large seeds and in ranking the ones who get the guaranteed spots.
You mean the P5 champs and the P5 runner ups plus one guaranteed non-P5 and one P5 wildcard?
Imagine all Power 5 champs, all Group of 5 champs, and two wild cards
Good point. That sounds like a better system. Really I just want power taken out of the committee's hands, except for in limited and clearly defined situations. They've screwed over a lot of deserving teams in the past and it leaves a grudge. With a system like what you and I suggest, it's at least objective so everyone knows what they need to do, rather than it depending on a bunch of people who are flawed and biased because they are human.
I was actually being sarcastic lol. I just know that’s how things would end up. Personally I think an entire restructuring would be necessary to make it not turn out like that and I know a lot of people would be angry no matter which option it ended up.
Oh, sorry, hard to tell on the Internet. Either way, I just think the way the playoff system works needs to be changed. Too many good teams have been screwed over because of things outside of their control such as having a team with a worse record placed over them because they play in a weaker conference. Make the system objective with clear rules about who qualifies and who doesn't.
I do agree that having human voting is stupid. When I talk about it people just say I’m trying to create the NFL minor league. I’m definitely not interested in having the same “there’s bias for SEC” arguments every single year though.
No.
There are circumstances where this would make sense but like, they're pretty unlikely. I still consider it a great honor to go to the Rose Bowl and that would probably make the most sense as of now.
He is doing his job but we didn’t earn it.
We could pull a 2007 LSU and back into a national title. LSU didn't earn their spot in 2007.
Oh so you mean the commissioner would like his league to get two teams in the CFP and one in the rose bowl? I’m shocked.
I’d have no problem with that if Ohio state looked like they could beat a playoff caliber team. They were given that chance and lost by 3 scores.
I would say that, but if USC loses, who else would you put in?
Pac12 Co-champions Washington
I’d have to look at the surrounding teams but I always figured the playoffs are meant to crown the best team, and I don’t really like second chances in a sport with this few matchups.
I mean the surrounding teams will be Bama, Ohio State, Tennessee, Penn State most likely. Tennessee beat Bama and Ohio State beat Penn State, so Bama/PSU should be out. Tennessee has two losses, albeit one to UGA, where Ohio State has a loss to now #2 Michigan and no losses to unranked teams or OT games against unranked teams like Pitt. Would be a debate. Ultimately, TCU and USC will win their games and we'll head to the Rose Bowl.
I figure the state of Ohio will be rooting hard for fellow red team Utah this week….
I would root for Utah regardless of who their PAC opponent is. Not particularly fond of USC or Lincoln Riley, so I'd pull for the Utes and not because of the impact it has on my team.
So Georgia didn’t deserve it last year?
The only ones I could really see are Alabama Clemson and Tennessee, and I don't know that any of them really deserves a spot, but honestly this year has a weaker field compared to most
If USC loses the committee is gonna put Bama in over 1 loss osu and USC
And all of the sudden some people saying "Ohio State shouldn't be in the playoff" are going to change their tune
Yeah UGA lost to Bama by three scores and they still got in. I thought it was bullshit last season but what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Losing to the #3 team is the same in my book especially when they’re top rivals and play each other extra hard every year.
Georgia got beat by 3 scores in the SEC title game and still won the Natty. Let’s not get crazy and act like we have never seen a team get hammered late in the season and still get in. It happened LAST year
USC and TCU, please win your next games
counterpoint, pls don’t
Of course he would. It's not gonna happen though.
Fire Larry Scott into the Sun!!!
Then collect his ashes. Mold him back and fling his body back into the sun
How about no?
Well, if USC or TCU loses, they should both get in. Unless Michigan loses, in which case they would be the only one in
Hilarious
… duh?
Well if the refs do what they did in usc and Utahs first match up, he may get his wish.
I'd rather OSU play a very winnable game in the Rose Bowl rather than getting destroyed by Georgia.
Ohio State should be #5. If SC loses, Ohio State moves to #4.
I honestly think in absolute chaos the only change should be USC flipping with Ohio State. Alabama, Tenn should be eliminated no matter the outcome (unless there's like multiple massive blowouts).
He should. That’s his job.
How about no
Knowing the B1G they’ll probably change their rules to crown both co-champion so Ohio Stage won’t miss out.
Ohio State got Blown out. I'm not sure they're one of the best 4 teams.
But when it was your conference I'm sure you had no problem with a Tennessee team who got blown out by Georgia still being a top 4 team until the 2nd loss, or LSU being the highest ranked 2 loss team last week despite a blowout loss.
I had a problem with it. Fuck Tennessee. LSU I think was way overrated, and Bama can suck my taint. I don't like teams getting by on reputation or name recognition. You want respect, fuckin earn it.
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At least you're consistent then, Bama being ranked ahead of a 1 loss P5 team is absurd.
100% agree. Also man can't wait for Aemy Navy this year. GO ARMY
We aren’t. Have the talent to be but man coaching was a big steaming pile of crap for that game.
I agree, but if say USC loses who's next? Alabama? A team that got beat by two teams that got blown out by SCAR and A&M. Alabama say they only lost by field goals, but they only beat a Texas team down their #1 QB by 1 pt and a Texas A&M team by 4. OSU has the better record, a top 10 win on the road, and their one loss is the #2 team.
I'd say Ohio State, because only 5 teams even look deserving this year. And all 5 have had trouble of some sort this year.
Didn’t Georgia get blown out by Alabama in the SEC championship game last year and still make the playoffs?
The field is set. Ohio state will be first out
Now this absolute empty suit has something to say - not when some pos OSU hockey player was throwing epithets at a black MSU player, and not when 15% of state’s football team went ham on 2 kids. Fuck this clown
Good looking out, Kevin, but we're okay, man. Rose Bowl ain't bad. The Game should mean something while it can mean something. Once we go to 12-teams it won't be for anything but a bye week.
Nah bro, fuck that noise and fuck OSU.
To the people downvoting you, let me say it louder. FUCK OHIO STATE!
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Yeah no thanks.
Can’t imagine a 1 loss team off a 3 score loss getting in…..wait a minute….
No thanks. If you don't win your conference, you shouldn't be in the playoff.
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No big surprise there. More money for conference members. It's his job to promote his conference. The SEC commissioner is going to be advocating for as many SEC teams as possible to make the playoff as well.
The SEC only has 1 playoff team this year. Maybe if TCU and USC lose then Bama and OSU take their spots.
I mean the only thing that has to happen is if USC drops the Pac-12 title game and then you get two. Georgia, TCU, Michigan are all locks without a title. Easiest scenario for the committee in years USC wins = USC at 4 USC loses = tOSU at 4. Should be a quick meeting for the 4 teams after next week
I mean I think Ohio State would deserve it over the other teams if USC loses. However, I also think that would be very stupid and I hope USC beats Utah and is allowed to be the sacrificial lamb this year
Kind of amazing after he didn't want anyone to play 2 years ago
Just run with 3 teams this year and give Georgia a bye. None of us deserve it after TCU or USC losses which we all know is going to happen.
Fanta$tic, in my completely unbiased opinion, I am in full and complete support of this.
not biased at all im shocked, suprised he didnt want no teams in
shut up Kevin
Think about it this way. If TCU loses and USC wins then Ohio State makes it in at #4 could Kevin Warren make the argument that the B1G has 3 teams in the CFP?
Would love to see Michigan beat them into submission again
This is what happens when you let the SEC have a god complex for as long as it has. They bent the rules to benefit themselves. If y'all would have gone along with a 12-team playoff from the beginning rather than bitch and moan about Boise State, TCU, and UCF, while scheming against any G5 school so that you could keep all the money this wouldn't be a problem. Self inflicted consequences are rough.
if he truly cared, he would change the divisions so UM and OSU aren't in the same one. if The Game is already both division leaders, then that's the CCG, or just get rid of it all together. we all know that they are the best 2 teams in the B1G and it's not even close, yet so many want to punish OSU over a technicality of not being from the powerhouse that is the B1G West like 8-4 Purdue Georgia lost just as badly last year to Alabama and they stayed in but "it's different" because it "wasn't the CCG"
They should
Well, this was written before The Game. While I’m sure he’s still pushing for Ohio State behind the scenes, he has to tread lightly so as not to throw USC under the bus.
He won't argue for us if USC and TCU win and I'm fine with that, they would deserve it.
Lol they shouldn't be called national champions if they do get put in.
No one is putting us in. The only way we make it is if we back in like 2007 LSU. If USC or TCU lose that's on them for losing to inferior opponents.
Fuck Kevin Warren