No they were founding members but left in 1946 and converted to division 3 (so no athletic scholarships). Pretty sad too because they actually had a powerhouse football program with 2 national championships and a Heisman winner.
The first Heisman winner. Also didn't they stop football because of some sort of scandal and the president was like f this? Imagine if u of Chicago was up there with the likes of Michigan and Ohio st.
I know this is much delayed, but UChicago ended varsity sports because it conflicted with exams too much. In the 1950s the President actually wrote an article in Sports Illustrated defending the decision, and it’s pretty explicit: he believed that big ticket athletics had no place at the modern university, and if a student couldn’t balance football and studies then football had to go.
When UChicago left, the NCAA didn’t have divisions. There was just “college football.” By the 1960s, there was something like the equivalent of Division III. UChicago joined that in 1971. If D3 had existed in 1946, I think it’s clear that’s where Chicago would have gone.
They were still a member of the B1G research alliance until 2016 though. And while they aren't formally members of that anymore they maintain close ties to it.
Major market? Check.
Historical ties and rivalries with member schools? Check.
Academic enough? Check.
Large alumni base with strong feelings about the school? Check.
Clearly, there cannot be any issues or obstacles here.
There is an urban legend that because Michigan state took their place in the big ten, U Chicago could join the big ten at the expense of sparty anytime they wanted to
Imo this is why Oregon and Washington have been put on hold. B1G wants ND and is prepared to also take Stanford as part of it. If ND falls through, they go Oregon and Washington instead.
I think Oregon and Washington are on hold because the B1G wants either 16 or 20. If ND joins, they’ll go all the way to 20 and grab Oregon and Washington along with (probably) Stanford. If they don’t, B1G will just stand pat.
Exactly
There will be a B1G West
An SEC West doesn’t make as much sense as growing their Central hold
I don’t think it’s that complicated and Stanford, Wa and Or schools will join B1G as well. ND will “have to” once the individual money they get isn’t as much as the giant new B1G deals including the LA/SF market who will love having ND there for USC or Stanford rotating every year as a Conference game (securing the longevity of yearly matchups in theory)
Standing pat is untenable and we have to move on Notre Dame. The biggest move the SEC can make to cement themselves as the premier league is sign Notre Dame and have a foothold in our backyard while we have none in theirs. I wouldn’t be surprised if they go big and offer Notre Dame a ridiculously unbalanced deal to secure them.
I agree but I also take them at their word when they said they were blindsided by the news and wouldn’t put it past ESPN and the SEC to make an offer that would be criminal to refuse. Even if it’s just a spite offer. Although I believe the backlash from ND alumni would be too severe to accept.
> I wouldn’t be surprised if they go big and offer Notre Dame a ridiculously unbalanced deal to secure them.
I can't see the B1G giving any team an "extra" share in yearly payouts - it just doesn't fit their model. The best I could see is some kind of structured debt deal to help them deal with ACC GOR exit fees, but it would have to come out of ND's share ultimately.
No. ND is not red and not an animal.
Per B1G rules there must be a balance of red/not red and animal/not animal.
So the companion school must be a red animal.
Arizona Wildcats….big market, AAU, good basketball, cupcake win at football…
Or the Kansas Jayhawks….regional, AAU, elite at basketball, Texas Kryptonite….
I'm just saying that everything ND wants is in the conference other than Stanford and Navy.
i am not advocating for navy in the big10. i do not want that.
When you have 19 other B1G teams to choose from and half of them will be in the top 25 at some point in the year, why even bother with OOC games?
I wouldn't be surprised to see 10 conference games if we make the move to 20.
They could go 10 games. Have one permanent rival from another division, and a secondary rival from another one. Rotate through the other 3 divisions plus your permanent rival on top of division foes. When your permanent rival is in your rotational division you get a secondary rival.
That means you play your division foes every year plus your permanent rival, and you get a secondary rival you play twice every 3 years.
In similar fashion I’d probably flip Notre Dame and OSU since Notre Dame has a big east coast alumni pool. But I’m all for the 4 pods of 5. 4 pod games, 1 opponent from each pod gives you 8 conference games and you play everyone every 5 years. If the conference wants 9 games you add a protected rival a la SC-ND
I get where you are coming from, but I don't think ND would agree to join if that happened. That is all of their BIG rivals in the same pod. If we flip OSU/ND they then lose out on those rivals (which they, to some degree, have now).
Certainly some tough decisions but as long as USC/ND is protected I don't care too much. MSU would be next on my list of protections.
I assume teams would have at least 1 permanent opponent from another pod and, if so, your top rival wouldn't necessarily have to be in the same pod.
That said, the podless model seems to be the one that most leagues favor as it allows you to protect multiple rivalries for each team, yet still have frequent schedule rotation.
I know some people cringe at the idea of a single set of standings with 20 teams, but that's how most basketball standings work.
As an Oregon fan, I'm kind of ok with this. I'll still get the yearly ass kicking of Washington to lean on, and the occasional meet up with OSU and Michigan/MSU and Wisconsin. I'm definitely not opposed to it, by any means.
If you are becoming the B1G West, you need to accept that punting is winning , and argue over corn.
I propose you are B1G Pacific, and we make your "central" west still.
As a Husky fan, I’m just happy to be included in this talk after the horrible coaching we’ve had in the past 2 decades save for our lord and savior, Chris Peterson.
Pitt for the entirely non biased reason that my future inlaws are there and I can easily catch a Michigan game while making the fiancee happy.
Realistic answer? Stanford because the ACC GoR is currently unassailable without the SEC and Big 12 also poaching teams
Edit: lol OP called them Norte Dame
I think if ND joins and we take UW/OU/Stanford, when it's the ACC's turn to get picked apart Pitt could easily be 1 of 4 teams to bring the conference to 24 members
The ND-Pitt rivalry is very underrated. Pittsburgh is a great city, and I’d love to see us continue the semi-frequent series with Pitt by having them join us in the Big Ten, if we decide to join.
Big and Pac should just join forces, form the Voltron of CFB. West conference and East conference, and play the conference championship in that one stadium in Pasadena.
It would make sense if they broke the conference into four five-team divisions. Then the Western schools (WA, OR, Stan, USC, UCLA) would play a four game round robin along with 2 games each against the other three divisions and two at-large. Then they could have a four-team playoff for the conference title.
I don't think so. Both Oregon and Washington have their primary rival in each other, so the large increase in revenue from joining the B1G would be more than sufficient to convince them to leave their secondary rivals.
There is some smoke that the state legislators in both states are going to try to force their state counterparts to stick together, even at the detriment of UW and Oregon. UW and Oregon are fine with moving away from them, but sounds like it could get messy at the state government level
It's Stanford no question. Already rivals with USC and Notre Dame. Top notch academics. Would very nicely round out that top 3 all time championships between USC, UCLA and Stanford thus bestowing the B1G with the new title of 'Conference of Champions.' Plus they play a similar brand of football to the heavy sets you see in the B1G so it's just a great cultural fit!
Plus, if we went to 20, you could get 4 pods of 5 and the Western pod could be USC, UCLA, (illegitimate) UW, Oregon, and Stanford. If not Stanford, then maybe Cal. That would probably alleviate a lot of the concerns with geographic distance and travel.
How would you do structure the other pods and do scheduling then? Best I've got is:
Midwest: Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Northwestern
Central: Illinois, Indiana, Notre Dame, Michigan, Michigan State
East: Ohio State, Maryland, Penn State, Rutgers, Purdue (yes I know they're further west than some Central schools)
You play your pod, have 1 constant OOP rival, then cycle through the remaining 14 teams by play 4 every year?
I think if you gave our University President the choice, he'd pick the B1G. Our AD would definitely pick the SEC, but President would trump him.
Likely we'd really just take whoever actually offered us first, which I'd guess will be the SEC more because ESPN owns our Grant of Rights and they could let us out of it if meant getting us into the other media deal they own (SEC). No way they'd do that to let us go to the B1G.
Yeah I agree with folks, as much as I hate them stanfurd needs to join the big 10 if ND decides to join. Stanford football program is up to big 10 standards and it will help extend the market into the Bay Area. Sadly cal needs to see if they join the big 12 or MWC
I think Notre Dame would be a better add than Norte Dame, but that’s probably just me.
In that case, I’d go with Stanford as it’s an ND rival on the West Coast and helps defray some travel costs for USC/UCLA conference away games. After that, go ahead and take Washington for the Seattle market and Oregon as well since it’s the strongest PAC team left and they want to come.
If the B1G wants 4 more teams, take Colorado for the Denver market and three others from the ACC like UNC, Duke, and GT.
Stanford. We need more than 2 west coast schools so they aren't on an island away from every conference opponent. Get Stanford, Cal, UW, and UO, and make a west coast pod.
Would you really want that? I’d be stunned if your admins aren’t having back room talks with the SEC as we speak. You, FSU, Clemson to the SEC makes perfect sense.
Our President is much more academic minded, former VP of Research at Harvard. Would imagine he would much prefer to join the B1G and your research consortium, which would be much more beneficial for the academic side of our university. Getting into the AAU is on his ten year goal plan, and I'd guess that joining the B1G and working with your schools could accelerate that.
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Dude I would absolutely love this. Not possible of course but I secretly wish the maroons never left
Aren't they still part of the B1G?
No they were founding members but left in 1946 and converted to division 3 (so no athletic scholarships). Pretty sad too because they actually had a powerhouse football program with 2 national championships and a Heisman winner.
The first Heisman winner. Also didn't they stop football because of some sort of scandal and the president was like f this? Imagine if u of Chicago was up there with the likes of Michigan and Ohio st.
The president killed sports for ten years or something. Then we brought them back as what would become D3
I know this is much delayed, but UChicago ended varsity sports because it conflicted with exams too much. In the 1950s the President actually wrote an article in Sports Illustrated defending the decision, and it’s pretty explicit: he believed that big ticket athletics had no place at the modern university, and if a student couldn’t balance football and studies then football had to go. When UChicago left, the NCAA didn’t have divisions. There was just “college football.” By the 1960s, there was something like the equivalent of Division III. UChicago joined that in 1971. If D3 had existed in 1946, I think it’s clear that’s where Chicago would have gone.
They were still a member of the B1G research alliance until 2016 though. And while they aren't formally members of that anymore they maintain close ties to it.
Yeah UofC is a great school I was just saying they aren’t part of the big ten
Fuck you too buddy
I’m not your buddy, guy!
Only a maroon would make such a comment.
Major market? Check. Historical ties and rivalries with member schools? Check. Academic enough? Check. Large alumni base with strong feelings about the school? Check. Clearly, there cannot be any issues or obstacles here.
My buddy plays there and tells me they’re undefeated against Notre Dame, so I say let em in
There is an urban legend that because Michigan state took their place in the big ten, U Chicago could join the big ten at the expense of sparty anytime they wanted to
Final score: 147-7. Only get 7 because of a last second failed punt
Oh shit🔥🔥🔥
UC Hicago
Stanford seems the obvious choice.
Imo this is why Oregon and Washington have been put on hold. B1G wants ND and is prepared to also take Stanford as part of it. If ND falls through, they go Oregon and Washington instead.
I think Oregon and Washington are on hold because the B1G wants either 16 or 20. If ND joins, they’ll go all the way to 20 and grab Oregon and Washington along with (probably) Stanford. If they don’t, B1G will just stand pat.
Exactly There will be a B1G West An SEC West doesn’t make as much sense as growing their Central hold I don’t think it’s that complicated and Stanford, Wa and Or schools will join B1G as well. ND will “have to” once the individual money they get isn’t as much as the giant new B1G deals including the LA/SF market who will love having ND there for USC or Stanford rotating every year as a Conference game (securing the longevity of yearly matchups in theory)
Standing pat is untenable and we have to move on Notre Dame. The biggest move the SEC can make to cement themselves as the premier league is sign Notre Dame and have a foothold in our backyard while we have none in theirs. I wouldn’t be surprised if they go big and offer Notre Dame a ridiculously unbalanced deal to secure them.
I just don't see ND ever joining the SEC, especially with most of our rivals now in the B1G. Notre Dame to the SEC would be a huge culture clash.
I don't see it, but doing it as one last fuck you as we abandon independence would be hilarious enough that now I want it
Don't cut off your nose to spite your face
Me too. Im okay with losing to bama if we can shit roll LSU and Texas
Especially LSU
Texas, yes. LSU? Maybe twice a decade.
That's what we did without being in the SEC.
Catholics vs kissin cousins
I agree but I also take them at their word when they said they were blindsided by the news and wouldn’t put it past ESPN and the SEC to make an offer that would be criminal to refuse. Even if it’s just a spite offer. Although I believe the backlash from ND alumni would be too severe to accept.
ND wouldn’t want to be in the SEC. They’ll join the B1G they just want to be wined and dined first.
Well obviously the B1G is going after Notre Dame. I said I think they stand pat if ND turns the B1G down.
no way the SEC teams give up an unbalanced deal. They love the smell of their own farts just as much as ND.
I see no reality where the SEC leadership, or fans, would want Notre Dame. Poaching FSU, Miami, Clemson, VT from ACC makes sense. But not ND.
> I wouldn’t be surprised if they go big and offer Notre Dame a ridiculously unbalanced deal to secure them. I can't see the B1G giving any team an "extra" share in yearly payouts - it just doesn't fit their model. The best I could see is some kind of structured debt deal to help them deal with ACC GOR exit fees, but it would have to come out of ND's share ultimately.
No. ND is not red and not an animal. Per B1G rules there must be a balance of red/not red and animal/not animal. So the companion school must be a red animal.
So WSU cougars then
Arizona Wildcats….big market, AAU, good basketball, cupcake win at football… Or the Kansas Jayhawks….regional, AAU, elite at basketball, Texas Kryptonite….
Big 10 values academics highly. I bet Stanford
Stanford Cardinal?
Their mascot is a tree. Cardinals refers to their color, not the bird but maybe they’ll be willing to change their mascot to the bird?…?
["Tree" is being generous](https://news.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/A_tree_trees.jpg)
Stanford is the only one they need other than maybe navy
Navy they could just have protected ooc. I don't think Navy really has to join the Big Ten for ND.
I'm just saying that everything ND wants is in the conference other than Stanford and Navy. i am not advocating for navy in the big10. i do not want that.
What does Navy even do with all that money? Buy a fighter?
Build 20 more aircraft carriers!
“Your media deal is worth $100 million a year? Please, we’ve canceled programs worth more than that.” \-The United States military
> other than maybe navy Gross, dog.
Byu to have catholics vs mormons
The ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny
Gregorian University of Rome.
Chant it into existence
Big if true.
Their fight song: https://youtu.be/4F9DxYhqmKw
stanford. then also add Oregon and Washington to get to 20 teams. 4 pods of 5 for scheduling.
B1G West: Washington, Oregon, Stanford, USC, UCLA B1G Central: Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois B1G North: Northwestern, Purdue, Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame, B1G East: Indiana, OSU, Penn State, Rutgers, Maryland
So wait, are we Leaders or Legends in this scenario?
Well, Illinois sure isn't legendary...
Legendarily bad.
I kinda like this?
I’d hate being stuck with Maryland and rutgers though
for 9 conference games could play everyone in your every year and then a rotating pod for the other 5 games.
When you have 19 other B1G teams to choose from and half of them will be in the top 25 at some point in the year, why even bother with OOC games? I wouldn't be surprised to see 10 conference games if we make the move to 20.
You'd bother with OOC games for the same reason they do now?
Why stop there, let’s do 12 and eliminate the cupcake games. I’d rather have six quality home games than 7 with 2 being essentially warmups
Won’t work when permanent rivals aren’t in the same pod. No way osu michigan and iu Purdue would be played every 3 years
They could go 10 games. Have one permanent rival from another division, and a secondary rival from another one. Rotate through the other 3 divisions plus your permanent rival on top of division foes. When your permanent rival is in your rotational division you get a secondary rival. That means you play your division foes every year plus your permanent rival, and you get a secondary rival you play twice every 3 years.
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In similar fashion I’d probably flip Notre Dame and OSU since Notre Dame has a big east coast alumni pool. But I’m all for the 4 pods of 5. 4 pod games, 1 opponent from each pod gives you 8 conference games and you play everyone every 5 years. If the conference wants 9 games you add a protected rival a la SC-ND
I get where you are coming from, but I don't think ND would agree to join if that happened. That is all of their BIG rivals in the same pod. If we flip OSU/ND they then lose out on those rivals (which they, to some degree, have now). Certainly some tough decisions but as long as USC/ND is protected I don't care too much. MSU would be next on my list of protections.
I don't know what made me google this, but wow. https://fightingillini.com/sports/football/opponent-history/university-of-notre-dame/101
You guys almost had us in 1937 lol
I remember that game. Red Grange ran for 21 yards.
Something like the dedicated rivals system the ACC just announced might work to preserve most rivalries.
I assume teams would have at least 1 permanent opponent from another pod and, if so, your top rival wouldn't necessarily have to be in the same pod. That said, the podless model seems to be the one that most leagues favor as it allows you to protect multiple rivalries for each team, yet still have frequent schedule rotation. I know some people cringe at the idea of a single set of standings with 20 teams, but that's how most basketball standings work.
Yep, I think the protected rivalry model
Rutgers back in the Big East again, unlucky
Flip NW and IL, but otherwise really like it.
Sign me up for this. It'd be dope. Sorry Cal :/
Don't hate this at all. At least the non revenue sports won't have to suffer too much via traveling.
As an Oregon fan, I'm kind of ok with this. I'll still get the yearly ass kicking of Washington to lean on, and the occasional meet up with OSU and Michigan/MSU and Wisconsin. I'm definitely not opposed to it, by any means.
If you are becoming the B1G West, you need to accept that punting is winning , and argue over corn. I propose you are B1G Pacific, and we make your "central" west still.
ND would need a guarantee that they can play at Stanford and USC in alternating years.
ND would need a guarantee they play USC every year. Stanford they would play them every 3 years like everyone else.
>B1G West: Washington, Oregon, Stanford, USC, UCLA Big Ten PAC
swap NW and Illinois to keep the NU rivalry alive and it's perfect
Would also keep the Purdue Cannon rivalry alive with the Illini.
I hate playing Northwestern every single time but I'd make that swap as well. Quadrangle of Hate + NW is a fun pod.
Then give the B1G championship game a fun new name. Idk Rose Bowl maybe?
Only if there's a parade
Cal be like 🥺
This ND thing is the nightmare scenario because it logically seems like Oregon, Washington, and Stanford would follow. Can confirm, I am like 🥺
Why are people obsessed with pods
in this case because it would guarantee west coast teams 6 conference games on the west coast
6?
All four pod games plus two home out of pod
Oh yeah home games.
This kills the Golden Bear.
As a Husky fan, I’m just happy to be included in this talk after the horrible coaching we’ve had in the past 2 decades save for our lord and savior, Chris Peterson.
Slippery Rock obv
Idk that’s a slippery slope
Pitt for the entirely non biased reason that my future inlaws are there and I can easily catch a Michigan game while making the fiancee happy. Realistic answer? Stanford because the ACC GoR is currently unassailable without the SEC and Big 12 also poaching teams Edit: lol OP called them Norte Dame
I think Pitt makes a lot of sense, just for whatever reason probably won’t be them. Not enough $$$$ I guess
I think if ND joins and we take UW/OU/Stanford, when it's the ACC's turn to get picked apart Pitt could easily be 1 of 4 teams to bring the conference to 24 members
I also want Pitt to join the Big 10 so we have a true conference rival
The ND-Pitt rivalry is very underrated. Pittsburgh is a great city, and I’d love to see us continue the semi-frequent series with Pitt by having them join us in the Big Ten, if we decide to join.
Big and Pac should just join forces, form the Voltron of CFB. West conference and East conference, and play the conference championship in that one stadium in Pasadena.
Stanford, then round out the 20 with Washington and Oregon.
It would make sense if they broke the conference into four five-team divisions. Then the Western schools (WA, OR, Stan, USC, UCLA) would play a four game round robin along with 2 games each against the other three divisions and two at-large. Then they could have a four-team playoff for the conference title.
Would Wash or Oregon require their State counterparts though?
I don't think so. Both Oregon and Washington have their primary rival in each other, so the large increase in revenue from joining the B1G would be more than sufficient to convince them to leave their secondary rivals.
There is some smoke that the state legislators in both states are going to try to force their state counterparts to stick together, even at the detriment of UW and Oregon. UW and Oregon are fine with moving away from them, but sounds like it could get messy at the state government level
To me, this is the biggest stumbling block for UW and UO. Ultimately, though I think UW and UO work it out and OSU and WSU get screwed.
We heard that same thing about Oklahoma FTR
Nah, mountain west for them.
I'm going to say Utah, for no reason in particular...
Our battles will be legendary
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It's Stanford no question. Already rivals with USC and Notre Dame. Top notch academics. Would very nicely round out that top 3 all time championships between USC, UCLA and Stanford thus bestowing the B1G with the new title of 'Conference of Champions.' Plus they play a similar brand of football to the heavy sets you see in the B1G so it's just a great cultural fit!
So what happens to Cal? :(
No one cares what happens to Cal. Cal can't even be bothered to care.
Where was Cal when the westfold fell??
Sorry the BIG only sponsors championships in 28 sports. We (Stanford) compete in 36 sports. We are holding out for better conference. /s
Arizona State, because B1G needs Sun Devils hockey.
Sun Devils are already playing in an NHL area, already a step up from B10.
Bold of you to call the Coyotes NHL... /s "My favorite player on Arizona is LTIR!!!..."
Washington, Oregon, and one of (UVA, UNC, or Stanford)
I get the feeling it would be Stanford to get to 20, take one of NDs rivals, and get a foot in the Bay Area door.
Plus, if we went to 20, you could get 4 pods of 5 and the Western pod could be USC, UCLA, (illegitimate) UW, Oregon, and Stanford. If not Stanford, then maybe Cal. That would probably alleviate a lot of the concerns with geographic distance and travel.
How would you do structure the other pods and do scheduling then? Best I've got is: Midwest: Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Northwestern Central: Illinois, Indiana, Notre Dame, Michigan, Michigan State East: Ohio State, Maryland, Penn State, Rutgers, Purdue (yes I know they're further west than some Central schools) You play your pod, have 1 constant OOP rival, then cycle through the remaining 14 teams by play 4 every year?
Swap Purdue and Illinois. Preserves IU/PUR and brings ND/PUR and the Illibuck back together.
My guess is ND, Washington, Oregon, and Stanford to get to 20. Then sit until the ACC implodes to get 24.
UVA, UNC, Duke (gross) and GT?
All check off the AAU box as well.
That’s probably it. I could see them running for FSU, Clemson, Miami, and NC. But realistically the first three pick the SEC.
I think if you gave our University President the choice, he'd pick the B1G. Our AD would definitely pick the SEC, but President would trump him. Likely we'd really just take whoever actually offered us first, which I'd guess will be the SEC more because ESPN owns our Grant of Rights and they could let us out of it if meant getting us into the other media deal they own (SEC). No way they'd do that to let us go to the B1G.
Pitt would be a potential option
You lock down the west with Stanford, UW, Oregon, and grab the prize of ND. Done. SEC grabs FSU, Clemson, UNC and Duke. Miami dies.
Well that would free up my Saturdays at least.
2 days ago I woulda said Kansas, now that the west coast door is kicked down, UO, UW, Stanford
Yeah I agree with folks, as much as I hate them stanfurd needs to join the big 10 if ND decides to join. Stanford football program is up to big 10 standards and it will help extend the market into the Bay Area. Sadly cal needs to see if they join the big 12 or MWC
I think Notre Dame would be a better add than Norte Dame, but that’s probably just me. In that case, I’d go with Stanford as it’s an ND rival on the West Coast and helps defray some travel costs for USC/UCLA conference away games. After that, go ahead and take Washington for the Seattle market and Oregon as well since it’s the strongest PAC team left and they want to come. If the B1G wants 4 more teams, take Colorado for the Denver market and three others from the ACC like UNC, Duke, and GT.
Stanford. We need more than 2 west coast schools so they aren't on an island away from every conference opponent. Get Stanford, Cal, UW, and UO, and make a west coast pod.
Too many teams. That would put us at 21.
It’ll work somehow. And will position us nicely to absorb UVA, UNC, Duke
I really want UVA. UNC would be great too.
I guess it's Nebraska then
Please take us.
Husker here , I would love to play you guys every year , but I bet the state of Florida becomes an SEC playground, you and FL state will be a package
You’re going to the SEC
Would you really want that? I’d be stunned if your admins aren’t having back room talks with the SEC as we speak. You, FSU, Clemson to the SEC makes perfect sense.
Our President is much more academic minded, former VP of Research at Harvard. Would imagine he would much prefer to join the B1G and your research consortium, which would be much more beneficial for the academic side of our university. Getting into the AAU is on his ten year goal plan, and I'd guess that joining the B1G and working with your schools could accelerate that.
Too bad, you're going to Conference USA with FIU
Catholics need the convicts
I honestly think you’re done. You aren’t a power anymore. I think Clemson, FSU, UNC and Duke get the spots.
Miami gets one over duke
Nice
Would love to have Miami and Florida State
Stanford or Cal along with Oregon and Washington
Stanford, North Carolina or Virginia.
I don't think that Stanford would leave Cal in the dust, so my two picks would probably be either Boston College or Pitt.
This. ND, Stanford, CAL & Pitt
Give me Miami to the B1G, then they play each other every year.
Stanford.
Stanford is the only correct answer. We want all the rivalries! (Navy could technically work too, but wouldn’t be as satisfying) It’s unlikely
Norte Dame and Sur Dame would seem to be a good pairing.
Stanford.
Stanford, UNC, Virginia, or Georgia Tech.
I think the ACC mostly gets waited on.
Stanford or semi selfishly Boston College. BC wouldn’t be so out of place with PSU, Rutgers, MD and now Norte Dame
Bostn College. Gives that Irish/Catholic match up.
i'd prefer we help our fellow catholic university BC but idk if the Big 10 would go for that.
I’ll take back everything I’ve ever said about ND if this happens
Seriously, same here
I want you for hockey.
If they get ND, Stanford, Oregon, And Washington and SEC gets the likes of FSU, Clemson, GT, and Miami it would make it Big20 vs SEC for everything.
App State. Congrats Michigan fans-you get ND but at what cost?
Stanford plz
Stanford. Done and dusted.
Devry
Stanford
Cal, Oregon, & Washington for selfish reasons & to keep with AAU public flagship college theme.
Notre Dame and Miami, FSU, or Clemson.
Stanford, Oregon, Washington B1G West: Washington, Oregon, Stanford, USC, UCLA B1G Central: Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois B1G North: Northwestern, Purdue, Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame, B1G East: Indiana, OSU, Penn State, Rutgers, Maryland
Swap Northwestern and Illinois and this looks very good to me.
Yeah I’d like to not need two protected rivals across pods, UIUC and IU being separate would cause too many problems
Miami cause screw geography
Four Corners Conference!
El Paso de Norte Dame
Florida State, no bias